Er. Howett: Do you often go to see people paid off at the Sailors Home?

A. I act it is my vessel,

Q. How often?

A. It maybe once in a month or twice a fortnight; there is no certainty about it.

Excellency: When were you asked to come here and be a witness?

A. Yesterday.

Q. Who asked you?

A. Mr. Guterres.

Q. Did he tell you what to say?

A. No.

Q. Did he tell you what the trouble was?

A. No. He only asked me to come to the Governor's.

Q. He did not tell you anything?

A. No.

Mr. Thomson: Did you hear anything outside?

A. No.

Mr. Sercombe Smith: Do you know what this inquiry is?

A. No, I don't. He asked me to come up to see the Governor.

John Shaw MacGregor, called:

Mr. Sercombe Smith: Your name?

A. John Shaw MacGregor.

Q. What are you?

A. The master of the transport 'Verbena'.

Examined by Mr. Guterres:

Q. Then your crew are paid off, do you bring your own subsidiary coin?

A. Yes.

Q. Have you noticed any irregularity when I pay your crew?

A. Never.

Q. Have you ever seen me make any deduction from the seamen's wages?

A. Never.

Q. And the money is paid to the men in full?

A. Quite.

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