the only information upon which he issued the warrant was the information he obtained from Mr. Francis-
Mr. A. W. Brewin was here called to put in a translation of one of the books. He pointed out the entries referring to No. 12 and also an entry "New 43, $2." There was also an entry "43, $5."
In answer to his Lordship, Mr. Brewin said there were no dates against the items respecting the money paid to Cheng On. All the items followed in regular sequence.
Hon. F. H. May then went into the witness box again and his cross-examination was proceeded with.
Mr. Robinson-Have you spoken to Cheng On since yesterday?
Witness-No.
Since the sitting of the Court yesterday? Yes.
What did you speak to him about? I asked him whether it was 1 or 3, Cheung Sha Wan Street where the gambling was carried on.
You were speaking with reference to this case? Yes.
Was any other European with you at the time? Yes. Mr. Dennys.
What is Acting Inspector Hall's number? 91.
In this document 91 is written down and opposite is the figure 11-Yes.
As regards ), he has not been suspended? No.
Am I right in saying that Acting Inspector Hall has been for the last 18 months at Shaukiwan? I do not know how long he has been there. He has been there since I came back, I believe. I came back in October last year.
As a matter of fact Acting Inspector Hall has been at Sheukiwan since last October and he was there when you returned? Yes.
What was Inspector Manu's number? 89. What is his station? Wanchai.
How long has he been there? He has been there since I came back from leave; how long before I do not know.
Opposite 89 in this list is written $1.10? Yes.
He has not been suspended? No.
Has either of those two men anything whatsoever to do with the gambling section No. 2, Central District? No.
Can you explain how their names got into this list? Before they were transferred they were doing duty in the Central District.
I will ask you to get the dates of their respective appointments to their several districts. Now with regard to Inspector Mann perhaps you will have a little more knowledge. When did Inspector Mann return from leave? I cannot answer that accurately. I was on leave myself.
Do you know that he returned in June, 1890, and that he was appointed to Wanchai? I do not know what date he returned.
You know that he was on leave whilst you were on leave? Yes.
You can ascertain when he returned from leave? Yes.
And when he returned to Wanchai? Yes. Will you read the entries against 89 and 91? #91, $11; and underneath is put "11." #89, $1.10; underneath is written "Tung."
There are a large number of names of Chinese detectives in that book? Yes.
I think sixteen entries have been marked by somebody? Yes.
Will you read out those sixteen entries? I cannot read them correctly because I cannot read grass writing very well. The first entry does not refer to a detective; $4 is against the name.
The next might be Kwan, $2.
Is he a detective as far as you know? There is a man called Kwan Shing, a detective. It may refer to him.
Has he been banished? Yes.
No. 3 is Tung? Yes.
What amount? $2.
No. 4 is Chu Lun? Yes, a detective.
You think he is a detective-Chu Lun, I know, is a detective.
No. 5 is Cheng Tai, $8? Yes. He is a detective. No. 6 is Hu Hing, $8; No. 7, Tam Shing, $7; 8, Mee Chung.
Is he a detective? I am not sure. He is a policeman.
What is the number written against him? $8. What is No. 9, Leung Lai? I cannot read that; $5 is the amount.
Chu Tsoi is next?
His Lordship (to Mr. Robinson)-Does not all that appear in the translation you are now reading? Why do you take Mr. May through it all? What is the object?
Mr. Robinson-Because Mr. May has said that one end of the document consisted mainly of the names of police. Now I am pointing out that large sums were being paid to men some of whom, he tells us, are detectives.
His Lordship pointed out that when Mr. Francis, in his opening address, said that documents showed a large amount of corruption among the officers of the Police Force Mr. Robinson objected, and now Mr. Robinson was going over to same ground.
Mr. Robinson-I am dealing with the corruption alleged at the present moment and how it affects the Chinese Police Force.
His Lordship-I do not think you can go into the general question. I am not trying the whole Police Force here; I am trying the defendant.
Mr. Robinson-Here are names, some of whom the witness says are detectives, to whom large sums have been passed, and I shall found an argument on that fact.
His Lordship-You can put a definite question to Mr. May to show that this list is not correct or otherwise, but do not go through the list as it stands.
Mr. Robinson-I want information of identity of these people.
His Lordship-What is the good of that? Suppose you establish---
Mr. Robinson-I do not wish to address an argument to the Court at this stage, but I will say that it is obviously unnecessary to pay bribes to Europeans when the houses have all the natives in their pay. They do not want to travel outside that in order to secure their end.
Witness-I can tell you how many Chinese police are on the list.
His Lordship (to Mr. Robinson)-I am only anxious for the case to be kept within reasonable limits.
Mr. Robinson (to witness)-Can you tell me how many Chinese detectives, or how many members of the Chinese force are in the book?
Witness-61.
61 are mentioned as being in the pay of the gambling houses? Yes.
His Lordship-61 altogether? So far as I have been able to identify.
61 members of the Police Force? The Chinese Police Force.
Mr. Robinson-With regard to these men there are larger figures against their names than $1.10 or $1 which is put opposite No. 12? There are larger sums.
In looking through this translation I saw a Government firm or something like that mentioned. Government House.
Do you know whether that refers to His Excellency's A.D.C. or to the Secretary to His Excellency, perhaps? No.
You do not know to whom it refers? "Government House, $3.” No it is not $3.
$3? Yes.
Does the name of any member of the Legislative Council appear? No.
You might (handing a document) look at that entry: Does there not appear in that translation the name of a member of the Legislative Council? It might be.
Mr. Robinson-"Ho Kai, $1.50."
His Lordship-Suppose Ho Kai has taken $1.50?
Mr. Robinson-I do not suppose he has.
His Lordship-Well, suppose he has. Can we try that issue?
Mr. Robinson-No, my Lord.
His Lordship-Well, I must ask you-
Mr. Robinson-I have an argument in my breast-
His Lordship-I don't care a penny whether Dr. Ho Kai took the money or not. I do not believe for a moment he did; but suppose he did.
Mr. Robinson-It shows that this list cannot be depended upon.
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