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order that we may know where we start from.
His EXCELLENCY, in putting the motion that the resignation of the provisional committee be accepted, said he would venture to add to it that the best thanks of the meeting be tendered to that committee.
Carried.
Mr. Eos proposed that the following gentle- men be appointed the permanent committee for carrying on the work of the institution :-Right Rev. Bishop Burdon, Rev. Dr. Chalmers, Hon. Sir John Sinals, IIon. J. Russell, Tou. W. Kes- wiek, Han. P. Ryrie, Hon. H. B. Gibb, and Messra, T. Jacksou, W. H. Forbos, D. R. Craw-, ford, W. H. Davis, and A. Lister.
Ha, H. B. Grae said he expected to go home shortly, and thought his name might he omitted. Mr. FORBES said he also expected to go home shortly.
Both gentlemen were requested to allow their namos to remain in the resolution, and consented. The following words were also added to the re- solution-"With power to add to their number." Rev J. HENDERSON seconded the resolution, Carried.
The BISHOP-May I just say that, so far as I can see, the points to be determined by this permanent committee, will be the fees, the hours of attendance, and all the little datails conuected with the school. The master, I hope, will be, notwithstanding the fears of some, an efficient mau for his work. I have done the very utmost I could to secure the best man possible, and I think every care will be taken in his choice. I may any that so far from Dr. Stewart and myself being opposed to each other, I went to him for the purpose of asking his advice in reference to the appointment, and he himself is one of the subscribers.
Hou, P. RYBIE raised the question whether a Secretary and Treasurer should be appointed by the present meeting, and, after some conversa. : tion proposed that it be left to the committee to! appoint its own officers.
Mr. TOMLIN seconded. Carried.
The CHIEF Justica-Do the resolutions suffi. ciently define the duties of the committee, and that they undertake the general management of the school and its details ? How that is I don't know. Of course they would manage the school in all the general details that committees usually do, but the master's department of the school must be managed by the masters beyond ques- : tion. I take it no school over thrives in which the committee interferes. That I believe we And in England in all public establishments, and therefore I don't think any one here would wish to interfere with the master's department, but all but tho master's department ought to be in the hands of the committee. If that wore done; I think we would have done pretty nearly all, but I think we ought to say what we do commit to the committee, be that what it may, That is a suggestion I make. And I would take this opportunity of saying I think the lines laid down here by this paper which I hold in hand are such as ought to com. mend themselves to everyone. For myself, I am for instruction-roli tiously if you can, but if not, instruction. And I cannot say but I look with very great satisfaction at what the Roman Catholics have done in this colony. They have shown us Protestants an example we havO to follow, and I wish them every success. There is plenty of room for the success of every class in this colony, especially religions thought. For myself, if to-morrow there were a very good Presbyterian school established here, I should be very glad to see it. I believe you cannot have too much of education, but you may spoil a school by setting it up against another. I hope we will all agree in supporting this school, which Mr. Kidd I think established to meet, what was a very decided want in this colony.(Hear, hear. I don't think there can be a dissenter in this colony-although Mr. Kidd in his views
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very special, but I am sare there is not a Presbyterian or Independent in this soloay who would not have preferred sonding t-sir children to Mr. Kidd thau to give them no education at all, or to give them education. without religious instruction at all. I hope therefore in this matter we shall be able to pull together, and that Dr. Chalmers's great and ac nowledged learning will come to aid this committee, as well as the acknowledged talent of our much respected Bishop- Applause). The BisHor-With reference to Sir John's first question, as to the province of the com- mittes, I think we must leave it to good sense.
I don't suppose any committee of gentlemen would consider it their duty to interfere with the details and scholastic management of any school. If there is one place where divided management, or numerous management, would do harm it is a school. There must be one head and only one head, but of course there are many departments in which a committee cau counsel without inter- fering with the daily work and routine.
Hon. H. B. GIBB-I take it the duties of the committee would be very much like those of trustees at home, not interfering unless there is some glaring abuse.
Dr. EITEL-As his Lordship said anyone present might ask a question, I would like to ask one. Neither in his opening remarks nor after- wards in what he said as to the subjects the com- mittee would deal with, did I hear auy allusion to one point which seems to me very important, the question what subjects are to be tanght in the school. For instance, is Chinose to be taught, are Latin and Grook to be taught? In short, the question I wish to pat to his lordship is, what standard will this school occupy itself with as regards the subjects of its teaching?
The BISHOP-I hope in time we shall embrace all, but certainly not at first. I don't think there is any limit except the material with which we have to deal. I think it would be unanit- able to teach Chinese, Latin, or Greek; the boys should be taught the ordinary branches of an English education suitable their age, and if we got more advanced pupils we will have advanced education.
Mr. LISTER-I think we are somewhat in the position of persons opening a new house of basi. ness. We don't exactly know the articles in which we shall deal. until we know what the lemand is. We are opening business in a line ss yet very little developed. If we find there is a detoad for Chinese it is very easy to add Chinese, and the same thing applies to Greek and Latin. The programme of the school will no doubt be very much governed in years to come. as every thing else is governed, by the de- mand. Parents will express their wishes to what they wish their children to learn. All those points will, I think, in a few months settle themselves.
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The BSHOP-Mr. Kidd had five and twenty boys,all little fellows, some of them not more than eight or nine. Well, of course the education you give to such children begins with ABC and English books, and there is no idea of com- mencing the study of C-inese. I think to teach Chinese to those foreign boya would require a man of learning such as is only found in Dr. Eitel.
Hon. P. RYELE---The gentleman you will get out will be competent to teach Latin and Greek ? The BISHOP-I hope so-(a laugh)--but we commence these things without knowing what we are going to do, and with the idea of Me. Kidd's pupils before my mind I did not think much of Latin and Greek.
Hou. P. RYRIR-It is quite common for children nine years of age to commenco to learn Latin.
The BISHOP-Well, I think the teacher will be able to give them all the Latin they want.
Dr. EITEL-With reference to the question I put to his Lordship, and which was answered by Mr. Lister, as a father of children, if I wish to send my children to school I should like first to know what they are going to be taught, what the school offers for the children. I would not send my children to a school, and some fathers would not like to take their obildren from one school and send them to another, of the subjects to be taught in which nothing is known except that they are left to the committee to be settled by and by. What will be the subjects that will be taught in the school? because, apart from teaching in school there is teaching at home, and if subjects are taught in school that might be as well taught at home somo people would not like to send their children at all. I make these remarks to show my question is not entirely an absurd one. You offer this school to parents and expect them to pay fees. If you do that it is but rational you should first tell them what educatian you have to offer - (Hear, hoarì.
The BISHOP -Is this not entering into details with which we have yet to deal. We have now got money to start a school which we are anxious to make beneficial to our fellow-countrymen. Wo know who we have to deal with and we shall try to give them as good an education as we can, but as to the details, I think it is too soon to com- rait ourselves as to what we shall do or not. It
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