Thursday,
HONGKONG TELEGRAPH
September 18, 1941.
AMOUNTS PAID OUT FOR ARP WORK WITHOUT VOUCHERS BEING OKAYED
FROM PAGE ONE
Did she not tell you where she had got the money from?---No.
On August 9, you deposited $2007 Yes. This was also her money. All the money in this account in liers. Withdrawala
surement so many feet of tunnel had were in charge?-How many I don't the Government paid the money.-Iforder to allow Mr C. W. E. Bishop,. been done during the month.
Measurement Only
uno nover passed only know of them now,
know but this through my hands,
Do you know why it did not pass through your hands?—I don't know. I have O.K.'d some type-written documents but never bills made out In Chiness.
Who checks off the actual loads that were taken? We care nothing about the number of leads. We only go by measurement.
Who checks off the lineal footage removed?--The three foremen I Lake turns so that each On November 1, you deposited | will take measurements
mentioned Lake
when his $200, Then you started withdraw-
turn comes. ing your account. On November 19,
So you relied on what your fore-muck
moved from the tunnels? I base my figures on their reports.
Never Saw Bills Is it correct to say that you never saw any of these bills? That is so. And you only saw the dallceports sent in by the foremen?--Yds,
mysoir,
you withdrow $200. What was that men told you as to the footage re- palmoved, that amount has been twice a week.
for? I withdrew the money at my Alster's request. She wanted the money lo prepare for her marriage. On February 17, 1030, you had withdrawn
awn all the money your sister had given you to deposit except for $77.437-That might have been so. I don't remember.
I am telling you it in so. If she did not get married until last yent, why did she withdraw this money?
That is her business. I don't know her private life.
What did you do with the balance of $77,43?—I returned it to my sister.
Have you got a bank account now -No.
You are quite sure?—Yes. What are you doing at the present moment?-Part of the Ume I act as a foreman and the remainder of the
If they made a mistake, you would not know anything about it7-That
la BO,
footage of muck WILB removed?- Naturally, if they made a mistake, I would make a mistake too, for I can- not do all the work.
Executive Engineer of the Water- works, to testify,
The
Snap'
Mr Bishop Testifies The Chairman: I understand you. have brought along documents" In | // connection with the Kin Lee con- And which you accepted without tractors? The position is this then: As far going to see whether they were tell- as that amount is concerned ($3,089), ing the truth or not? did check ports.
Mr Bishop: Yes, the morning re- although you were detalled by Mr the foremen's reports by measuring Covering what period?-May and Campbell to check the footage of the work
did this once or June. but unfortunately one is miss- ing in the month of June. It may he by the Government without
And having satisfied yourself mislaid in the office. you OK-Ing that account?--I have that the reports were correct you What happens when these morning never acen this voucher before. sent them to Mr Campbell and the reports go in?—I am afraid I cannot Whatever vouchers
were OK.'d by bills. were OK.'d by somebody else say. They would go to Mr Campbell me they always came in foolscap in the P.W.D. is that right?--I can't and I presume he used them to check and type-written.
say. I know nothing about bills up on the work done. The sent in by sub-contractors.
The morning reports Rive
tive particulars of the num Fortune Paid Out
ber of men engaged on each tunnel Am I correct in saying that as a face, the number of timbermen for result of these questions and answers
cach shift, day shift and night shift, the position is: You at $2.00 a day the progress made in the driving of the tunnels, the number of holes drilled,
Summary Of Accounts
were the man through whom
Check
Do you know who made them out? They are signed by Cheng Chung, foreman of works.
You don't know. If he is a P.W.D. foreman?~~I don't know.
They might purposely mislead you as to the actual footage removed?— No. There is a final measurement of What kind of documents are you the tunnels so that we can check referring to?-Namely, sile 2, tunnel- whether the measurements are cor-ling work, removal of surplus to rect.
much, jack hammering. According to the system you adopt- What was the letter-head of the Government had been paying thou- the amount of gelignite used and the ed, you were not in a position to when typewritten document?-There was sands and thousands of dollars?-number of detonators word you O.K'ed these charges for transno letter-head, simply the words Since I was instructed to do the work
"ARP. tunnels" typed on top. In that manner, I carried on, port whether the correct amount of
What you are referring to is a sort But am I correct in that statement? of summary of accounts which goesYes. to the Treasury for payment?-Yes, $800,000 has up to date been spent I only OK'd these.
by the Government of Hongkong .on Three Foremen
Would I be correct la saying that the Kowloon funnels. Yes, I learned time I look after the accounts in the ed, are they employed by the P.W.D. sum of money had been properly was the man through whom the
These three foremen you mention-o far as you are concerned, you are that from the newspapers.
not in a
in a position to my whether this And a foreman earning $2.50 a day omeo.
What office? The A.R.P. tunnel-They are..
earned by the Kwong Wing Company billty for this huge expenditure
Government had accepted responal- office at Hunghom. It is a Govern-
or not?-I can't say. ment office.
And I am
to tell you another don't know I am not the only man going thing.
There are several vouchers who is doing this work. There are What does Chung get a day?-580 conected with the transport of muck also F. T. Chang, and other foremen. by the Kwong Wing Co. which have
month. hot been O.K.'d by you although Who told you to go there?-M- Bok-put und Cheng Tong. There I was your duty to do so.--It was you, him and the other foremen, the the morning reports are the same,
A princely salary. And through impossible for me to O.K. them since Government has been paying $800,- they did not pass through my hands. 000
Blind To Rob Govt
Do you know what they get per
A Government office?-1 don't me
know but I was when it was put up.
Isn't that Kin Lee's office?—I can- not say.
Campbell.
Did he tell you it was i Govern- ment ofce?---Île did not.
You think it is a Government omes?—I thought it was.
diny?-Two of them are drawing, the they, as mine-$2.50 a day and
$2. let us know the names of gentlement-Lin Lin-shing, Lo
win
these
you
also one other foreman by the name of Lo Dain,
Do you know which transport firm was transporting this muck from the tunriels? The Kwong Wing Com- pony.
no other.
Mr Campbell Overworked And no European Engineer in the I am making a statement of facis, P.W.D. hus ever even bothered to The net result is the suggestion to you that this transport Company W tunnels, relying simply and solely on check off the work done in these formed purely as a blind to rob the the Chinese foremen: Is that right? Kwong Government by over-charging theMr Campbell and Mr Buchanan
Any other company? I know of
Do you know that the Wing Company got $20,000 in five
On that you say Mr Campbell eventually O.K'd the work done?- He would use it to assist him in checking Kin Lee's accounts.
Removal Of Much
for the supervision of the Kowloon I take it he was solely responsibla tunnels? Yes, he was in complete charge.
ments which you would call dolly Are there any among those docu-
of muck from the tunnels? No, all reports with regard to the removal
detailing progress made in the driving of tunnels, the number of men employed, etc.
1
nothing in these morning reports So far as you know, there is
from the tunnels? No. dealing with the removal of muck
Work Described Will you tell the Commissioners what you do in that office?-In the mornings I go out and inspect the noona I retum to the otice. I have ing muck?-I learned that from the | Government officials. Is that sous that he was over-worked, that he ment that they were paid so much work at the tunnels and in the after months from Kin Lee for transport-overnment and that they did sp. were also responsible.
abelted by you and other But Mr Campbell has already told
several assistants there and I look newspapers. Into
the accounts to see if they have been doing their work.
What
accounts?Accounts
Paid On Certificate
That is not to.
had for too much to do and could In this one of the typewritten not possibly check all the work ond And this money was paid on your documents that you referred to? hud rely on you.-Yes. con-certificate that the work, had been No. It is not
summary like this. The ones that I saw had only one item on each page.
Would it be this one then?---No.
nected with the daily paid workmen performed. In that correct? How and stares we'received.
much did Kin Lee pay this Company Do you check off these dally paid I don't know. workmen? The workmen work in Whatever Kin Lee paid to the three shifts
alfis and there are three fore-Kwong Wing Company was paid on men. The shifts are from B am. te your certificate that the work had 4 p.m., from 4 pm to 12 midnight, been duly performed. Is that cor- and from 12 midnight to B am. I reet?--Yes. am the No. 1 foreman and am in charge of the other three foremen. check their reports.
What else do you do?-For each Mr Campbell himself took no shift, a book is kept by a foreman, steps to check off the footage which and for each site there is a separate had been, removed, did he?—I don't book which is divided into contract know. labour and daily paid labour. In
-Yes.
con-
*
You are not in a position to tell us how Mr Campbell can check or O.K. bills for transport of muck from tunnels?I thought he had an agree per lineal foot.
Check Of Total Advance He has, but you are not in position to say how they were follow- ing the agreement and were paid He should be able to check the total according to the amount removed?- {advance of tunnel and from that know so many feet and so much per foot had been removed. He would know the person removing the spell would
You don't know who Cheng Chung Do you know whose Initials are at the bottom left-hand corner of these reports?—I don't know.
And he accepted everything you told him as being correct. He got his jown brain.
And so did Mr Buchanan.-Like In any case, whatever the docu-wise, he could think matters over. ments were, the Information
Acted On Instructions tained in them must have been ob- Never mind what they could have tained by you from the vouchers. done. We still come back to this Is that right?-No. 1 O.K.'d the position: $000,000 had been spent by be entitled to so much money. And that, I take it, was counter-typewritten documents by checking the Government of Hongkong on signed or initialled by Mr Campbell? with the reports made by the three your certificates or statements to is? No.
foramen, not checking
them
with English engineers that everything is the vouchers.
all right-We were merely acting on Documents Examined Instructions.
do What were these documents which Where you „lve?—Chinese examined and O.Ka? They How much do you pay per day?-
Y.M.C.A., Kowloon. were all typewritten.
I have my food at home but I sleep Were they bills from sub-con- tractors?-No, we typed them out every night at this place.
Have you ever owned a motor car ourselves
in your life?-Never. I tion from the detailed reports made about it in the newspapers.
What did you type out?-Informa-prised and I laughed when I read
was sur
by the foremen.
Sub-Contractor's Car Can you show us any of these daily
You have never driven any private reports-from-these--documents? There is not one here. The daily motor car?--Yes, I have been driving reports made out by the foremen several private cars,
When was the last time you drove For the transportation of muck?
far as you know, Mr Well, so this book also is marked the number Campbell took your certificate that of the site and in each aite there may the work had been performed and bo ten to twenty tunnels.
you in your tum relied on these You go daily to check this work?-three or four foremen?-I could cal
culate the work according to the plan of the tunnel.
Yes,
What time do you arrive at the sites cach morning?-At am
Always? Sometimes I am a little
late, but by no more than 10 minutes, Issues Explosives
Transport, Vouchers
་
- Do you know whether any
you
vouchers for transport had been paid by the Government without having Do you have anything to do with been O.K.'d by you?--I don't know. were sent to Mr Campbell every day.a private car?-Car No. 599 which
Witness was then shown a certain document which he said he had Transport of muck and tunnel driv-belongs to the tunnel works. never seen before.
the issuing of explosive for blasting?:
-Yea
Who do you issue the explosive to7
—The sub-contractors.
They used to asic you for certain amount of explosives, did they not? No, we have a blasting foreman who looks after that,
Whose Initials are on this bill?--
inf
And daily labour also? No. Daily M Campbell's, Mr Büchanun's, labour is entered in the book in the those of M. Kwong, who looked after office. the sub-contractors for Kin Lee, und those of Kwong Wing, No. 1
Lee.
you issue explosives to him? supervisor of Kin Lat this particular No, the blasting foreman gauges the
Will you
you agree amount of explosives that voucher has not been O.K.'d by any would be used and would enter foreman ut all? That is so. this on a piece of paper. This would Why?-I don't know, be brought to us and having examin-
Does Mr Buchanan Ko and measure ed this, we would issue to the fore-
up the footage of muck removed from the tunnels? I don't know.
TRO BUS
Relied On Office
I can tell you that he doesn't. He has relied on the office all the time.
mah sub-contractors have made a statement that they could not get explosives from you unless they gave you cumshaw. Is thai correct? -1.don't know. That la pot true. No such thing happened.
Having examined the workmen on the site, do you OK. the pay-sheets sent in by the sub-contractors? No,
it is not my business to do that.
Who did that7--F. T. Cheng.
he is Government servant ployed by the P.W.D.
And I can also tell you that Mr
Campbell never did that too. So we at left with this position, Kwong employee of that firm have O.K'd Wing of Kin Lee and some other
em-
He used to O.K, the pay sheels?—— is Yes.
it
Checks Workmen's Work
the
How does he check them?-I don't small bed space in a cockloft. Yes.
know.
-We have had a lot of documents
put
before us,
pay sheets and
Cannot Explain
Now then, if you and those other vouchers which Mr Campbell O.K'ed Government foremen were supposed
And you got these dally reports from the foreman and on that you menis? Yes, made out these type-written. docu-
Sent To Mr Campbell Where are these type-written do- cuments? They have all heen sent to Mr Campbell,
Are they in the possession of the
Yes.
you got any in these last two weeks? Yes, even to-day.
Who did you send them to?--Mr Campbell.
No, he is in hospital-We always sent them to the Hongkong office by messenger.
fore? In what way?
Not having checked up at all bo-
!
You drove that? What do you use It for? I must explain. We have five sites to look after. If I wanted to go from Hunghom to Austin Road,
to
Chan Lo, employed by Kin Lee, was recalled...
The Chairman: You make out the pay-allps for the workmen?
Chan I I pay according to the bills produced. I have some of the slips here. (Produced).
Are they signed by anybody?—
Nỏ.
The position then is that when a workman completes his day's work, he is given one of these slips? Yes. Who gives him the slip?-A man I don't know.
Is he a Kin Lee man or a Govern ment man?—A Kin Lee man.
On these silps you pay the work- men?--Yes...
You pay every day, or twice a month? Every day
You rely on the unknown man to
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I would make use of the car.
Do you know the foreman who You
are supplied, with a car travel between the sites?This car Yes.
shelters is Kowloon?-1 veldom yo belongs to Li Man-shing, a sub-
So am correct in what I said about with those people. contractor.
He is a Public Works man-I He is
yesterday that if the unknown man sub-contractor employed is a dishonest man he
don't know him. otit pays Kin Lee? Yes, by
money which he has no business to He
Fictitious Persons
Issue the slips to pay out money looks after the construction of pen- MAFOO'S DEATH
provides the labour for the do? That is so, work? That I don't know.
What does he do?---Tunnel lining.
LEAP
A Hongkong Jockey Club Stables Issue Of Machinery
mafoo, leapt to his death from the Now, these sub-contractors who window of the mafoo's quarters this are doing tunnelling work are sup- morning. He suffered multiple in- plied with machinery by Kin Lec, juries and died before an ambulance
could be summoned, are they not?Correct.
They are issued to them?--Yes. Is that part of supervise? Yes.
the
work you
The man was Chu Ling, 30, and his death leap was made from the second floor of the servants quarters
Mr Kwong Wing wants to make a In other words, let us suppose that few hundred dollars. It is very easy for him to get the unknown men to Issue slips in the name of a fictitious person and for money to be paid out go to n fictitious man?That is so.
You made no enquiry as to whe various sums of money to the fore- 1837 Subscription Grimin, which, up ther the work has been performed man employed by the FWD, they to the end of 1040 had won $2,000 in
You have
ave been driving about in haven't you? No. that car, 599 in your life?I have.
You have never been in ear No.
When Ir A Hurry To "visit the jobs?--Not ta around all the sites but from one to another when in a hurry,
with
A statement has been made that at the Jockey Club Stables In Shan until these sub-contractors paid
by the man who presents the slip? ars not issued with equipment and chopped with a rubber stamp.
pay on production of the slip
No Identification
Kwong Road, Happy Valley.
Chu was in charge of Clowner, u
so cannot do their work? That is stakes. Clowner is owned by Mr
I was sú strict in my J. L. Fielden.
not true. work that pgainst me.
have a many
grudge
You have dune all in your power to sce
sce your work is properly per- formed?--Yes.
And to see that Government la not over-charged? I do not fix the price of the work.
As No. 1 foreman, you have the interest of the Government very much at heart?-Yes.
Rumours Of "Squeeze" You said certain statements have been made about you? There were rumours about me I heard they wanted to report me to my superiors. For what? That I was squeezing people of money.
they were addressed to Mr Campbell, To whom did you send7-Even now
How did you get the car? Did you the voucher and these two Govern- whether or not he received them.
At what office? Waterworks ofllco. you? When I found the car outside ask the sub-contractor to send it to He is employed by Kin Leer-No, ment ofcials have counter-initialled
It is their business.
When did you send the last one the office, 1 naked permission from The sum involves, not mine.
is $1,405.85 and This"
morning.
the person in the car to drive it to You for the removal of surplus sur-
remember what it was about? in site. I asked the driver.
So Kwong Wing; If he wanted to, 2That is correct. face from Bite
-Site 2, tunnel Nos. 2, 3, 6, 5.
You got permission and he drove can rob Government of hundreds of And that included the bill And the money was pal
paid to the
for you out?—No, I drove.
dollars by making out fictitious slips On Information, that you supplied which, from the evidence we have Only at the end of the month when visit the sites?-No,
Kwong Wing Company, a company transport of muck?-No, it doesn't. Are you allowed transport to of paper? I don't know about that.
I am making this statement be him? You checke the actual work heard, is supposed to be owned by the removal of muck is totalled up. How do you to around, then?--I cause you told us that when you pay done by the workmen?—Yes,
wife of Kwong Wing?--I read Who does the totalling-I do.
Is nobody Who else checks these? Dld
nobody present was supplied with a bus ticket, not out worismen there Mr that in the newspapers also.
No Checking Up
to identify them?-I have no power Campbell check 117-Yes,
money, by the Government. And whose office consisted of a
Why
you not continue using to make such un investigation.
There
no one there to identify your bus ticket instead of the sub- You rely on the foremen reporting contractor's car? - -Sometimes the
these wor
workmen, am I right? There is none. buses took too long, and it took as to you, do you not?—Yes.
George Tsang then resumed his And at the end of the month you much as half-an-hour to get from-
scat and was further questioned. and so have you. That is correct. to be checking this surplus footage total It up and make up the type one site to the other.
why was the bill not written document?--Yes.
Used To Drive Home
The Chairman: Before you be Am I right in saying that once you removed,
In the meantime the transport
came foreman on this tunnel work in had O.K'ed the documents, Mr Camp-O.K.'d by anyone of you? I don't
Company sends In know.
bill to Kin Lee? atter 5 p.m.7-Yes,
Have you ever driven car No: 599 Kowloon, did you have any previous bell also O.K'ed them without any
Just for con experience of A.R.P. tunnel worit?-
You heard rumours that people had further quiry?—No.
Why? My inliials were not there-That I don't know,
Well, here they are--it was only venience sake. After fluishing work OK.That I don't know.
through my hands.
had experience with tunnels at Shing cepting squeezer-Yes, home and at other times to go to Mun waterworks scheme.. procedure.
Have you taken steps to report Why not, if you were responsible a Perhaps you will tell us what hap
the Y.M.C.A..
Suddenly And you
these rumours to the head of your Made Foreman pens after checking and O.K'ing the for that particular work?--I can't
was OK.'d by Chung, and Mr as a convenience.It so happened In other words you used the car
You have no previous experience
department? No.
Why not? You can't say who documents. Did you hand them to explain.
Perhaps you can explain this one. Buchanan but never by one of these aint when the car was going some of these tunnels and you were sud- spread such Mr Campbell-When goods arrived,
voucher Government foremen who are sup where I would travel by it. I was Campbell? I was not suddenly made there is nothing to stop you from
denly made No.
rumours 1 foreman by Mr. But having heard the rumours I would check the vouchers with the Have you ever seen
posed to check off the work. Is that I would before? No, never. goods. If I am satisfied,
a lift. only given i
foreman. He knew I had some ex telling Mr Campbell or your other Is that also a voucher for payment right? That is 50, the
Have you used and then, make an vouchers O.K
You also to the Kwong Wing Company?--Ac-
used to supervise the owned by a sub-contractor?-No.
of tunnelling work. perience Entry in the books.
checking of tunnelling work? Yes. Did you make yourself satisfied cording to the wring on it, yes.
The fact remains that you rosesses that such rumours are being Document Not Initialled
You have never been to a rea- from onice-boy in Shing Mun water spread. Have you done so? I have
that car?-I don't remem-works scheme to taurant by For $3.9007Yės, that the vouchers were correct?
made such a complaint. Look at that document, what is it ber.
Why haven't you done so?-Since through the good offices of Mr Camp I cannot prove it. for?--I have hover seen it before Well, try and remember?-Never bell?I was never an office-boy. Wito has O.K.'d that document?-but according to the writing it was You are quite sure
These rumours are
are entirely un- about 17 was a checkort Shing Mun, 1 F. T. Chang, a Government servant an account for turmelling work on Never in private car No. 599.
founded?Tes Sito 4.
Can you tell me why you, of ali who looked after the accounts.
You have never been to the gained my promotion step by step. Whose bill is it? The Union Ex-cinema in that car? No, because the moted you? Yes.
Mr Campbell is the man who pro- the foremen engaged in this work, press Construction Co.
driver was not pleased to go with
He is the man whom you work for should be singled out by these people What is the amount involved? me to the cinemas. I always went all the time? Yes, except when he don't know,
"and rumours spread about you?--I $3,200.09.
was on home leave. Then I worked it is just your misfortune, la 117- And the other bili next to
alone. No Joy Rides
for. Mr Word 100 Woodman Ah Ting and Co,
But you worked for him when he
Yes. What is the amount involved?. to a
was in Hongkong?Yes.... Tunnelling work for Bite B, $5,71524.
You look upon. Mr Campbell"
What did he do to check your because the voucher did not pusat this moment that I learned of such in the evening. I used it to drive No, not of AR.P. tunnels but I have been saying that you had been ac-
What exactly did
you do?-For
if ten bamboo brooms are
cel, to us, I would count them
check the number with the Voucher." It correct,
I would OK the voucher and enter in the book
Теп bamboo brooms."
Did you have anything to do with O.King the transport vouchers for
muck from the tunnels
that
For the transport of muck from those tunnels?--Yes
What is the date of it?---June, 1941.
Not Passed. Through Him So that was after you took over this job of checking all the footage?
Yea Why have you not OK.'d it?-Be- through my cause it never passed hands.
It
you never OK/d that at all.
3
that?
any
other chr
Did you ever ask him to drive you
cinemat-No. Why do you say, he was not.
No. 1. foreman
not
"You have a lot to do with the issue at explosives? Yehrere go
Had Not Heard Rumour, Both these items were for work pleased, then?—I mean that the your boss, don't you?--Yos, he is. which had to be supervised by you driver was not fund of going to Do you know a man called Chu Have you ever heard a rumour that
Any cinema, se
SAMSUNG NAPA Pak-luma? -No you and other foremen demanded a man I am.referring No. certain amount back oreman who look after the from the sub-contractors so that you building of the pen shelters in Row- could sell them?—No, kom hug
don't know that wing of ALL TURN to Back Piza, Column
What was the procedure with re- gard to that?-Mr Campbell told me that the co
cost of removal was by We want to know why it had not measurement so much per passed through your hands, since you
3from 1a midnight to 8′′am know why she would take measurement of the FFAre Sammeln At he and of the month, Kald idd Up According to this measu
A day the
foreman of the were in charge of the 1057--I don't ) and OK:d?—Yes
belling us note that X a lot of these vouchers never prased,
through your banden though you
Does your signature or initials ap You have never joy elde pear on either of them? No. They in cos nos os er boen for a 100 de were never passed on to me, engine that the store, witness was asked
But these ware documents on which to stand down for Tew minutes in loon
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