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should say, a week Inter when-Miss Au, Mr. Cheng and myself-

What in, un foot or what?-In motor-car: we went to the cinema.

Which Miss Au was this?-Mlea Bessie An, I think.

For what purpose did you wait?

wanted to spot him. Whint time of the night won this?—I should say about three or four a.m.

How long did you wait?—I waited I should say between 20 minutes to half an hour.

Did the accused come out again in that time?—No. Then I went back to the Chu Hang-Club,

Couple Warned. * ́* Why did you go back there?— And after the cinema what I had removed from the Nathon happened? A conversation passedHotel to the Chu Hang Club be

cause it cost mo nothing to live there.

between-

Where did you, go after the cinema7--We went home.

What do you mean "went home"? -To 60, Village Rond

And you heard something, you began to say just now?—Yes, I wan sitting behind in the car. That conversation was on the way to the cinema and aut after the cinema. Cheng said, "I want you to chose right now, whether you are going to be my friend or Mr. Fung and Miss Lati's friend, If you are going to be my friend you cannot be Mias Lal'a friend," The Voice was rather harsh.

Did you see the accused again that day 7-Yen.

Where?-At the South' China

Club,

Have any conversationTM with him?-Ho said, "I thought the question over and couldn't sleep. I had a lot of brandy and being desperate I went over to the N- than Hotel." At that moment I asked him whether he saw Fung or Misa Lai, and he said, "Yes."

asked him how and he said there was a sort of fake telephone mes- Hage calling them to answer, and when they both came out he met Quarrelled with Fay. Now you may on the way to Re-them in the passage and said, "I warn you, you can't get away with pulse Bay on Sunday the accused it so easily. Better beware." mentioned Lai Ming-fay to you. Dld he ever mention that name to you again7--No, it was after this cinema that I learned about Miss Lai Ming-fay's acquaintance with Mr. Cheng.

When did you learn this news na you have said?--I believe it was at the Chu Bang Club.

How long after the cinemas day? The same day, the same night.

You went back from the cinema to 50, Village Road and then? We went for some dluger and went to the Chung.Club.

What did he tell you there?—He told us that Miss Läi Ming-fay had bren living-

inc.

Let's try and have it in his own words if we cun? He said "I had a quarrel with Miss Lui and lost my temper. I gave her a slap and the I result was that she left won't feel it so bad if she lived by herwell but she went to a certain person whom I have helped im mensely before, and who owes me money. and in fact I gave him money to get married. That she should go to hit! So I asked him who was that person and he told me Gorge Fung.

Did he tell you anything else?- That he was very much upset.

Why was he very much upset?- Bees he said that for six years when he had been staying with her he had always been a gentleman.

Where were you staying at that Time? I think I had come out from Kowloon Tong and was staying at the Nathan Hotel.

paid

Do you remember when you went to stay at the Nathon Hotel?-I believe I was staying at the Hotel about March 12, 13 or 14.

"To Have It Out." Who paid for the room? for the room but when I was broke I would ask Mr. Cheng for mones

Any particular reason why you stauld go to the Nathan Hotel to stayIt was too late to go lack to Kowloon Tong so I stayed at the Nathan Hotel

.

How long did you remain there?

Three or four nights.

During the three or four nights that you were staying there did you ever see George Pung?--No.

Or Miss Lai?-No.

Did you know, at that time that they also were staying there?-No Thut I saw George Fung get out of a hus and go in the direction of the Nathan Hotel.

You have aid that the accused spoke to you about the girl and

That's what accused said to the couple? Yes.

Did he tell you anything else? ---No.

Is that all the conversation you had with him that day of any in-1 terest in this case?--Yes,

Did you meet him again the the South next lay? Yes, at China Club.

Any material converantion with him that timo?--No,

The following day again fad you at all?-He was asking me about passports, low he could get a passport as he said he want- fed to go to Manila for a holiday. He asked me if there were many girls there.

Mr. Lindsell (to his Worship): i am not relying on this; I didn't. open on it.

Saigon Suggested. **** Witness: I suggested Saigon, he told me not to mention anything should we go to Saigon and asked if 1 cared to return to with Shanghai or go to Saigon him told him I liked Saigon

top.

Mr. Lindsell: Well, what I am really asking you is this: Did you have any further conversa. tion with him about Fung and the girl--No, except on the 20th. morning.

Where was that-At the South China Club just hefore noon.

said he wanted to beat Fung up and give him a good hiding. He asked me to see, if I could arrange with a few other friends of mine.

he

To what?-Help him to give

a biding. He Fang

said could give a dinner at Yaumati the same night if I could arrange

to get the boys together.

Did he tell you anything else at the timp?-He said all he want

us to do was to get hold of ung no that he could slap him the face just to save his v face with Lai Ming-fay,

Anything else 7-I told

him 1 Would try and get the boys to

Kother.

.

Hi consequence did you make any arrangements?—Yes.

What arrangements did you make 7--That same day at 2 p.m. Christie Yang me up and asked if I was going to the show, I told Christ there was a dinner on at I told him, "If you can 8 pm. got a few boys together there may be a serap on to-night." He said O.K. and rang off.

Defence Objects.

Fung, thereafter did you have a Mr. Brutton: I don't think further conversation on the same there's any evidence in that, your subject I think on

the 16th. Worship. March after leaving the Chu Hang

converan-

Mr. Lindsell: I am inclined to NIPPON YUSEN KAISHA. | Club with Mr. Cheng on the way think it is, Sir. It's a conversa- (private exchanges to all Depts. home to 50 Village Road. On the tion held on the instructions of

way he was looking very much dete necused. pressed, in fact, he was crying and Mr. Brutton: The shedding tears. I asked him what tlon was not held in the presence was the matter and he said it was of the accused. about Lai Ming-fny and he asked if Mr. Lindsell: Not in accused's I could get him a sort of knife or dagger as he wanted to go over to the Nathan Hotel and have it out with accused. I told him not to be

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Mr. Lindsell (to witness): As

a fool and do things in a rush but a result what did you do your- to have the matter considered first. self?—I told Mr. Cheng that

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He asked if I cared to accompany had spoken to Mr. Christie on the him over to the Nathan Hotel. phone and told him to get the

A "Coward and Funk." boys together. We What for?-Because he said he him at the Majestic Theatre at 8 wanted to have it out with Fung. p.m.

I said it is too late to get a knife or dagger now. He said I was a a lot and coward; that I talked

would not dare to act.

What did the accused say to that?-He said all right.

At 8 o'clock whore were you?- I had at that time left the South

Club to meet Chlan Athletic I Worehip: He anld you Christie 18 arranged, as Mr. were a coward?-Yes, he said "You talk a lot but when it comes to ac- Cheng told me to go over first to

meet the boys. tion you are a fonk." Of course that was spoken in Chinesg.

Mr. Lindsell: Anything further sald between you?-He said "If you are not going I am going over, my self. Somehow or other I will find

You got to the Majestic Theatre about what time?-Between half past eight and a quarter to nine.

Did you meet anybody, thero 7— I meat Christie, Souza and two or three friends of Mr. Christie,

a way of going over." So I was dis- What did you do thoro7-We missed and he went upstairs.

to come walted for Mr. Chong Did you know how he know Fung across before going to the hotel was at the Nathan Hotel7-He for dinner. said he had someone shadowing him And did he come?-He did not all the time and ho know ho yo at arrive until about a quarter to the Nathan Hotel.

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Christie and Mr. Souza.

Another Man Brought in. On the way to the hotel what happened 7-OR the way to the Yee Fong Chan I told Cheng that there was one man I would like to get hold of, and if he minded if

brought him, along.

Did you any who he was?-Yes I told him he was Ah Sing.

Why did you want to bring this man Ah Sing along?-Because I wanted to have nothing to do with it and Ah Sing would consult with Mr. Cheng.

You yourself wanted to have nothing to do with the matter you any, what matter?-To give Fung a hiding. This man tae pei Sing mixes with lonfers in Yumati.

What did the necused say to this proposal?-He agreed.

Did you get hold of Ah Sing 7- I sent Souza to get hold of him.

Did he bring him?-Yér.

Was that before or after you got to the Yeo Fong Chan 7--- After.

What happened then 7-When he came in with Souza I told Mr. Cheng that was the man I wanted, and they introduced themselves. in the usual Chinese custoin. Hear anything of what said? Yes,

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friend who always sponges on women's money-He also owes me money and took away my girl. He's a Surt of rolter and I want to give him a hiding. I would like the bunch of you to go to the Nathan Hotel.and get him out of his room and give him a leking." Tao pei Sing was shaky about 11 and said, "Don't do things in a rush. Have the matter consulted about first. Let me find out who this mun is before you take action and нес what sort of a fellow he is," Mr. Cheng insisted on giving Fung-a biding that night.

A Merry Party. Anything more anid?-We nak- ed Mr. Cheng what floor Fung was on and. I think he said the fourth. Ife spid men had shadowed Fung and they knew his movements,

Was there anything to drink at the dinner? Yes, very much beor and Chinese wine.

What effect had the wine on the party If any ?-Wo were all very merry and very glad to go over to give Fung a licking.

What did you do?-We left and went to the Nathan Hotel.

What happened there?-Cheng told Christie, Souza and myself to wait downstairs while Sing and himself went upstairs first.

Next thing what happened?— While waiting I saw a suspicious sort of person wearing foreign clothing with his felt hat pulled down.

What happened next?--Tao pei Sing came down and called us up. Witness went on to explain that at the restaurant where they had dinner the accused had given in- structions that they should dis- cover from the notice board which room Fung occupied. After the party had gone to the fourth floor of the Nathan Hotel they engaged a room and then found that Fung was in alther 407 or 409, Wit- ness went and knocked on the door but a room boy asked whom he wanted and when told tint witness was looking for Fung. the "boy" said that he did not necupy that room.

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You told him that Fang พ.ร not in that room?-Yes. He said, "You fool. He is in another

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What happened to the other three?-Mr. Cheng and tao pei Sing went to their room and Souza was' told to keep watch.

Did Souza do so?—Yes. At this stage the hearing was adjourned until this morning.

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