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ties en a question of this kind. But the principle involved in these divergent views is a very important one. Having given to it the best consideration I can, and having ar- rived at a definite conclusion. 1 feel it my duty to say that I differ from the first and agree with the second, school of thought, and it remains for me to set out shortly my reasons.
The Lever.
storey one-half of the entire space its water problem to enable it to Intervening between the principal | give a supply for such an essential room or rooms and the main wall sanitary purpose. Even at the pre- at the back of such building as well sent time it will be of great in- as the corresponding portion of terest to the public if the Govern roof, unless such building is al- ment were to enquire into the ques- ready provided with an open and tion as to how much more water unobstructed backyard of at least will be consumed if the whole fifty square feet in area; the build Colony were provided with water ing must further be provided on closets flushed with water from the every storey with a window of atmains. It is, of course, known that least ten square feet superficial the total water consumption must area opening into such open space." increase with the increase and ex-
(Section 175 (1).
pansion
but of the population. from such information as I have been able to obtain, the amount of increased consumption which would be, entailed if the water system were generally introduced, would bear a very small percentage to the total consumption for or- dinary purposes.
"Old Type". Houses.
closet
With these remarks, I beg to support this motion.
I understand that the effect of this requirement is that a house built before 1903 must be provided with open space which in practice comes to about one-third of the roofed area (but without the ad- Assuming that this Board isdition of a scavening lane), unless justified in using the lever, of re-it has an open backyard of at least fusing permission to instal water fifty square feet. closets, to prevent the retardation This Board can, under sub-sec- of the rebuilding of these "oldtion (4), grant modifications and
Dr. Koch in Favour. type" houses, I remain to be con-exemptions. vinced that the means still attain
Dr. Koch said he was reminded the end. I do not know how many
of the saying of a French writer houses there are, which were built I submit therefore that the who said "Where there is hygiene, before 1903. There must be thou- Legislature has plainly stated the there is no happiness" which struck sands. I do not know how many conditions under which "old type" him that they were in that position of these houses can obtain an in-houses can remain. It is of course now. He had nothing against the submitted by Mr. dependent water supply, eg, from for the Authorities to see that the resolution as
But Wong. The select committee had wells. There must be relatively conditions are complied with.
very sympathetic in few. If this is so, it is obviously so long as they are complied with, been futile to expect that the granting my submission is that this Board considering all applications. He however, that they or refusal of permission to instal should not, in exercising its dis- thought,
be guided
the by water closets can have any material cretion under other provisions of should
to the ad- effect on this question. In any the law, exercise such discretion Building Authority as
owner for the visability of allowing water closets case, does it follow that because adversely to an water, closets cannot be installed, ultimate purpose of inducing such in houses where it was unsafe to the owner is therefore more likely owner to pull down premises which have them installed. to pull down and rebuild? I should the Legislature says he can retain have thought not. He would be and maintain. much more likely to continue to do The Idealist in public health without water closets. In this case might wish that the Ordinance had the only result of the Board's re- provided that all buildings "must fusal of permission is to compel conform with Section 179, if neces-
Dr. Wellington's Views. one more household to carry on sary by pulling down and rebuild- with the insanitary bucket system. ing. But the Legislature no doubt Hon. Dr. Wellington said that My objection, however, to the felt bound to observe the recognis where a water closet could be safe- first school of thought is based on able difference between legitimately installed in a building, whether the more general ground that this enactment and confiscatory legisla- it was old or new, he felt, pro- a sufficiency of Board is not justified in using the tion, and so it took pains to make vided there was
distinctions between lever at all, even if the means would the
water, the closet should be allowed, attain the end. It seems to me that various kinds of houses in the way but there were in the colony many the question as to what type of in which I bave ventured to de- houses and buildings which he had houses should be permitted to re-scribe.
seen, where a water closet could not main, and what type of houses In order to avoid any possible safely and suitably be installed and should be pulled down and rebuilt, misapprehension, I feel I ought therefore he was of the opinion forms part of the housing problem
that every case should be consider- which is for the Legislature, and
ed on its merits and that the re- not for this Board, to decide, al-
solution of Mr. Wong was though it is within its province to
sweeping. express to the Government Its views and recommendations from the point of view of public health, My view is that this question was exhaustively considered by the Gov- ernment in 1903, and that its con-- clusions, in the shape of an enact- ment, bind this Board.
Three Kinds of Buildings. The Government's deliberations resulted in the Public Health and Buildings Ordinance, 1903. This Sun. 15th Juna at 10 a in
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The Government, at the time, had to deal with three possible kinds of buildings, namely:-
the
perhaps to make it plain that of course not only section 175, but other provisions of the Public Health and Buildings Ordinance, apply to these "old type" houses. For instance, take section 26, which provides as follows:-~~
Speaking on the relative merits of the two systems, he pointed out that the misuse in the case of water closets was quite as bad as the misuse of buckets.
too
On the Invitation of the Board, Dr. C. W. Pope, Medical Officer of Health, pointed out the objection of Installing water closets in the old type of Chinese houses. He drew visionary plans of these houses and pointed out that by installing water closets either in the front or rear of the premises, the already limited ventilation would be con- siderably decreased.
The Chairman congratulated Mr. Wong on bringing the motion be fore the Board and also Mr. Chau on the way he had seconded- it. IIe proposed an amendment "that this Board, while of opinion that
"The following shall be deem ed to be nuisances liable to be dealt with summarily in the manner, provided by Part II:~~~ (2) any building or part of a building which is so dark, or so ill-ventilated or so damp, or in such a condition of dilapidation, as to be dangerous or prejudicial to the health of the inmates;
(3) any building or part of a building which contains rat-holes or rate-runs or other similar holes, or which is infested with rats, or in which the ventilating its power to grant permission to openings are not protected by instal water closets in private pre- gratings in such manner as ef-mises should not be used as a lever fectually to exclude rats there to secure a more hygienic type of from;
building, considers it essential to (4) any premises which are in retain full discretion (to add special such a dirty or in such an in- conditions in special cases or to sanitary condition as to be dan- decline permission in any case) gerous or prejudicial to health; where in its view the installation In respect of all auch nuisances, is open to objection on hygienic whether they exist on old or new grounds." buildings, this Board has jurisdic- tion."
(a) Those built before 1903. (b) Those built after 1903, but upon land leased from the Crown before that date. (c). Those built after 1903, but on land leased from the Crown after that date. Taking the cases in the reverse order, the Ordinance provides that, in the last case, every house shall
The Water Supply. be provided with an open space equal in area to not less than one-
-The water question, sometimes in half of the roofed-over area, in ad- a less and sometimes in a more dition to a scavenging lane (Sec-acute form, being still with us, it tion 179) in the second case, the is hardly within the sphere of open area shall be one-third of the practical politics to suggest that the roofed-over area, in addition to a Government should allow everyone scavenging lane (Section 180) and in the Colony to have a supply of in the first case it provides as fol-water from the mains for dushing lows:-"Every existing domestic purposes. But as A modern building shall be provided by civilized city this Colony should the owner with an open space in certainly look forward to the day the rear, by opening out on each when it will have sufficiently solved
The Hen, Mr. Creasy seconded the amendment which was put to the meeting and carried.
On the proposition of Mr. Lo a minute relative to the application for the erection of water closets at 182, Queen's Road, Central, which was held over from the last meet- ing, was referred back to the Sub- Committee for further considera- tion.
A minute by the President rela- tive to the additional public latrine accommodation in Holland Street was placed before the meeting and carried.
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