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(Continued from Page 9) Now, Sir, the hon. member has read Sessional Paper No. of 1929 and he will therefore know that this accond section is cati- mated to cost $4,750,000. Our en gineers are, at the present line, engaged in the examination of this schemo. It was only very broadly outlined when first suggested in 1924 and we are not yet in a pos- lion to submit detailed proposals to the Secretary of State for his approval. That is ono of the special reasons why the Government has not been able to accept the hon. member's motion as it stands.

Wiser to Wait,

FRIDAY, JULY 19, 1929.

FLORIDA BANK FAILURE.

43

CITRUS FLY RESPONSIBLE.

New York, July 18. The Florida bank failure is largely due to the inroads the Mediterranean fruit fly the State's citrus crop.

of on

The directors of the Citizens

The hon. member referred to a repeat what the Director of Public 1 cannot conceive, such a position that the ravages of this fly have

second pipe line. Now that is a thing which has been very care fully considered and it has been decided it is wiser to wait until we have gained experience in the laying of the rat pipe line and in its use before we start to make

The State comptroller agrees

pression,

scheme it wants to carry it out to of going on with the Shing Mun tho full and I should have also scheme. I cannot see the smallest thought it was obvious that the reason for the Government not Aberdeen scheme would, if carried accepting the present motion. out, give a great deal of relief to Surely it is in the interests of the the people who have been, in the Colony, as I say in the motion, past, the principal sufferers from that we should have a full water the water shortage, namely, those people on the rider main system at supply; surely it is in the interests West Point. I asked for contract of the Colony that the permanent dates for the completion of various measures should be proceeded parts of the Aberdeen scheme, and with, and surely it is in the inter- am still waiting for a reply on ests of the Colony that we should that subject. All we have been proceed in accordance with the fold is that we shall get some re very excellent scheme which has Bank and Trust Company of lief from Aberdeen-I think it is been worked out by Mr. Henderson Tampa with branches in the in 1931-but that does not satisfy and his assistant, Mr. Purves. citrus region, have issued n state- me at all. Not a single word has cannot for the life of me imaginement that the trouble is due to, fallen from the Hon. Colonial Se-how it is that the Hon. Colonial "unwise gossip, in continued cretary to show that the Aberdeen | Secretary, especially after he has adverse conditions, following the scheme is being pursued with reu- had the opportunity of reading appearance of the Mediterranean sonable diligence. That scheme, what I was about to say, could fruit fly, which as I said, consists of over a dozen possibly, us he seems to have done, for the feeling of

In responsible items and all the Hon. Colonial advise the Government that this fear."

unrest and; Secretary has done is practically to resolution could not be accepted. possible. If he had said the thing had been suddenly sprang upon accentuated the Anancial de- him and that I was suggesting all

Florida prohibitionists attribute sorts of outsido things, then 1 berts hesitation in accepting this rum runners from the Bahamas. could understand the hou, mem-the introduction of the fly to motion, but all I am asking this Mr. Hoover has allotted £900,- Council to do is to vigorously take 000 to combat the fly. General Of the other items mentioned in

up the suggestions of its own quarantine bas been declared Mr. Blonderson's report the Hong-

Why the Delay.

officers and that if it Ands itself against Florida fruit.-Router's | kong and Kowloon mains are being dealt with on a regular programme

Then, Sir, with regard to my short of staff engage outside en American Service. of improvements on aums voted in query as to whether it was not de- gineering assistants. It is im- the annual Estimates. The North Airable for the Government to en-perative, in the Interests of the Point tank appears in the Esti-gage outside non-Governmental en- Colony, that this scheme for the mates for this year and the engineering assistants. I submit a permanent relief of the Colony's gineers hope to commence it this good deal of what the Hon. Colonial rear. The Kowloon City tank, Secretary has said shows that the although a desirable work, has not Government ought to have set about been felt to be a necessity up to that long ago, because he has toki the present. It is, however, on the catchwaters could not be proceeded us in the course of his speech that programme.

Now, Sir, I think the hon, mem-

with with reasonable diligence as ber will admit that the Government recommended by Mr. Henderson. has not been idle since Mr. Hen-sufficient staff. The hon. member Why? Because we have not got derson's report was published has also told us that the Kowloon The Government cannot entirely nyewash reservoir was delayed for disregard the importance of

a certain time. Why? Because we Gaaner in works of such magni have not a suficient staff, or rather tude as the construction of water

as he put it, the Kowloon Byewash reservoir could not be proceeded with ewing to more important water schemes.

the second one.

MOVER NOT SATISFIED.

Complains of Colonial Secretary's "Cheap Gibe."

Works told this Council on the 20th. of June this year. That is to say, we should have some water avail able by the spring of 1931. He has not in the least met my point, which Aberdeen scheme as detalled by Mr. is that the necessary parts of the Henderson, should be proceeded with as soon as possible.

did not say what I intended to The Colonial Secretary-Either say, or the hon. member has nis- understood me.

water supply, as opposed to the tin and tank system, should be vigorously proceeded with,

H. E. THE GOVERNOR..

Says there is no Difference

of Opinion After all H.E. the Governor.-1 did not

have the opportunity of reading

pasted me with other members of the Council some months ago on a visit to Shing Mun Valley. When we were there we saw pre- paratory work for the Shing Mun gorge dam, That dam had not even then got to the stage where we knew the foundations for it were kely to be. Cuttings wèro being made on the hillside in or- der to ascertain where the rock went and waere the dam could best

placed. The hou, menbor then

of these works. When the loca-

un-

the hon. Senior Unofficial mem-accompanied me from the gorge ber's speech before I came to this further up the Shing Mun river Council nor did I have the advant- and we came to a point near the works, 1 can well believe, as the

are of hearing the lion, Colonial Shing Mun village. It is propos hon. member stated in a letter to

Secretary's reply until he deliver, in Mr. Henderson's scheme, the Press, that the Government

ed it, but having heard both that the dam' should be placed "ean reckon fully upon the hear- tiest support of all sections of the

tunate that the hon. senior.un would be. We looked at two'sites speeches I think it is very unforthere, Mr. Henderson himself did

not know what the proper alto, Ponimunity in putting the water

official member wishes to press on that occasion but no decision supply and distribution on a per-

this motion to a division, because ing been taken where it should manent and satisfactory basis," but the Government cannot place what did you any? Those are the opinion between him and the Gov contemplation further dams in Hlon, Sir Henry Pollock-Well, there is really no difference of be constructed. He has also in upon the Colony a load of debt which it might find difficult to re-t proceeded with owing to more haps if he listens to me I might more on the way down to Talpo, exact words 1 lave got down-ernment on this subject, and per Shing Mun Valley, at least two pay without an increase of taxa-important water schemes,"

yet persuade him that the wiser but there again Mr. Henderson Hon. While the Government fully realises the necessity of increasing

The Colonial Secretary-What I course will be not to divide the himself has not made up his mind the water supply of this Colony, said was that in February of this Council. If the hon. member's where these dams should be placed it is not disposed to embark upon year when, in addition to the cross-motion had been otherwise word nor have we any idea of the cost large and expensive seliemes with harbour pipe and Aberdeen scheme ed, if he had perely stated that it out Brst assuring itself that the was decided to proceed with the was imperative that the Colony tion of these dams is known, when schemes have been fully investi- Kowloon byewal reservoir, It De should have a full water supply the cost of them is also known, it gated and the cast ascertained,came impossible for the engineers and that it was desirable that per- will then be necessary in obtain that they are practicable and that That has nothing to do with Kow-there would have been no differ- State. I have no doubt the Secre- to proceed with the catchwaters.manent measures should be taken,the sanction of the Secretary of they are being undertaken in the most economical 'way and more-

loon byewash.

ence of opinion and I might havetary of State will give his sanction over that the necessary funds can and that the Kowloon byewash rebut as the motion is to the effect put before him, and I feel sure Hon, Sir Henry Pollock-You been able to accept it as it stood, to any well-considered achenion I be made avaliable to pay for them. servair and the catchwaters could that all permanent measures to in such schemes will have the

The Director of Public Works.not he proceeded with at the same I have nothing further to add to time. If that means anything at referred to, in a certain report when they come before it, but crease the water supply which are animous support of this Council the Hon. Colonial Secretary's real, it must mean that they cannot should be carried out forthwith, until the schemes are fully pre- marks.

be proceeded with at the same time the Governm ut inds itself unalila pared and not merely adumbrated, owing to lack of staff.

I. E. The Governor--11 was de: to accept it. Now there are cer- it will be quite preninture for this rided that the one scheme was more

tam portions of Mr. Henderson's Council to commit itself. Even economical than the other and scheme which have been cut and Mr. Henderson, if he were here should be taken up instead,

{ dried, approved, estimated for and to-day, would not be able to tril Hon. Sir Henry Pollock-Still, I carried out. The most important us exactly what he wants to do Hon, Sir Henry Pollock-Sir, do not understand the hon. mem- of these is, of course, the Aber-in the Shing Mun Valley, Under At his request. I suit the Honoura ber's remark to mean anything deen scheme, which has been ea-these chreumstances I think the le Colonial Secretary a note of other than it could not be proceed-timated for and the whole of which hon. member will see we ought no what I was about to say to-dayed with at the same time hecause it is intended to carry out. All to adopt the resolution as pinced and I am now somewhat regretting of shortage of staff.

the subsidiary works for the main on the Order paper. the fact that I did so after he con- The Colonial Secretary-That is reservoir which were, detailed sidered it worth while to give some really what is mennt. It does not the senior unofficial member's cheap gibe in referring to Mr. mean the byewash was delayed. Sutherland's scheme. He said he

speech will, we hope, be carried There is also the question of Hon. Sir Henry Pollock-I cannot out simultaneously with the eon-finance. If we are to commit this thought I was travelling a bit out- understand the hon. member in any struction of the dam. On the in- Colony to very heavy waterworks Bide the terms of the motion. I sense except that.' The hon. mem- and there will also be constructed construction we must also be pre-- would suggest to the honourable ber has given us satisfactory news the catchments in connexion with pured to bear the cost. The cost member that he might with ad- about the Dragon's Back West the Tytam Tuk reservoir. One of will he vantage, have left that out of his catchwater. He also tells us on the them is already under construc-joan but interest on the sinking reasonable charge on speech. I can assure you, Sir, question of staff that two additional though the hon. member may not engineers have been asked, for buttion as a temporary measure, be- fund and loan will have to be credit it, I am not very well fami-he did not Lell

when ing pushed on very rapidly in pald. If we are to embark on liar with dams and catchwaters, these iwo engineer's

were connexion with the water emer- costly schemes we must be pre- and although my speech may seem written for, Веспина It

geney, but it will be turned into pared in our next Budget to find to the hon. Colonial Secretary a quite obvious from what he has permanent catchwater as soon the necessary sums and I am not poor effort stil! I did take a good said that there must have been as we have opportunitice to tura at all sure that sellemes of the deal of pains in putting it together. necessity for them for some time ourselves from temporary to permagnitude indicated in Mr. Hen The hon. member at the begin- and I should like to have some manent measures. While I am ouderson's report could be carried ning of his speech said that further information upon that the point I should like to draw out at this stage without resorting the Government was in general point.

the hon. senior unofficial mem- to increased taxation. I would re. ympathy with my objects, and he

With regard, Sir, to the Shing ber's attention to the fact that he mind the hon. senior Chinese said very soon afterwards the Gov. Mun scheme second section, the omewhat unfairly criticises the member who supported this no- ernment hoped I would not press Hon. Colonial Secretary said It Government, because he fails, tatlon, that at the recent meeting of this motion to a division, In view was broadly outlined in 1924. draw attention to how the Public kaifongs one resolution passed Chat has fallen from the Hon. Well, Sir, it was not only broadly Works staff have to absorb tem- with unanimity was that this was The romance of travel would be

Colonial Secretary, I certainly have outlined, but Mr. Henderson's re-

porary measures. If,it had not not the time for additional taxa- dulled without well polished motion to a division. I do not published until Sessional Paper of Public Works and his staff had to go slowly. We have the same every intention of pressing the port which, by the way, was not been for the fact that the Directortion. Therefore, I think: the Chi- nese community realise we haya think the hon. member has shown No. 4 of 1929, contains a very full been absorbed in these temporary end in view, but we wish to the slightest reason why the motion statement with regard to that measures, we might have been able achieve it, if possible, without should not be pressed to a division scheme and also a very interest to spend the last few months on any additional taxation. I do not The motion is a very simple one: ing plan attached to that report, permanent works Instead of think that the is a time when we "In, the opinion of this council it la This was issued in April, 1924 emergency continues, I fear avoid the necessity for doing so. temporary work. While this ought to Increase taxes if we can Imperative, in the interests of this Since then it appears from the farge amount of the energy of the suggest, therefore, again to th Colony, that all the permanent mea- Bures to increase the water supply telegram I referred to in my open Government and its officers will be hon, senior unofficial member that which are referred to in the report teen, the Govery! absorbed in work which is simply in view of the fact that he and I of Mr. R. M. Henderson, dated the 20th of February, 1928, (other than those which have already been completed) be proceeded with and completed as soon as possible."

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Bearing the Cust.

Motion Amended and Passed,

State telegraphed the Governor: "With reference to the Shing Mun

of temporary utility,

really see eye to eye on this mat cheme accond section, I agree to

An Unwarrantable Expenditure.ter that there is no need that we details being worked out imme-ing out and have almost completed this subject,

On the mainland we are carry-should record opposite votes on diately, as it is obvious that this the first stage of the Shing Mun will be required before long in any scheme. We propose also without Now I should have thought. Sir. Opposed to Tin and Tank System. the harbour, a single pipe line in quito prepared to alter my motion delay to carry the pipe line across · Sir Henry Pollock-Sir, I am that a motion like that would have well on with our details of the in the nature of an experiment. views as follows:

Therefore, Sir, we ought to be the first place because it is really in order to meet your Excellency's commended itself to every single Shing Mun scheme afcend section, We are not quite certain of the person in the Colony, and 1 amd for my part I do not under-result, but we are all hoping it rather surprised to see a gentleman of the eminence of the Hon. Colonial land why we are apparently so will be a complete success, Secretary suggesting that there is far behind in these detail. construct two pipo lines would anything harmful in the passing of pointed out that in the same re- commit the Colony to an expendi- such a motton. The hon, member port Mr. Henderson had given an tura which is, unwarrantable in said he could not follow the reason order for construction and I point- view of the many doubts which why I referred to various Items ed out before that certain catch still hang over the scheïns, forming the Aberdzon scheme. waters and dams, numbers thren | Well, Sir, I should have thought it and four, have been indicated by Mun schome is at!!! in a some- The second stage of the Shing. was obvious that if the Government him as being desirable to be pro- what hazy condition. The senior wants to carry out the Aberdeen ceeded with early in the course unofficial member himself accom- carried.

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"That in the opinion of this counell. It is imperative in the interests of this Colony that Permanent measures to incrouse the water supply of the Colony should be

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