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CARVALHO YEO TRIAL.
MR. KING ON BIAS FAVOURING
FORGERY.
IMPORTANT EVIDENCE. The most important evidence in the Carvalho Yeo trial at the Criminal Sessions yesterday after noon was that of Mr. T. H. King, Director of Criminal Intelligence. Replying to questions by Mr. Jen- kin, witness stated that he in- vestigated the case from two angles-first, that the cheques were genuine and had been obtain- ed by a trick; and secondly that After the they were forgeries. arrest and discharge of Tsang On- wing, there was a bias on the side of forgery.
THURSDAY, NOVEMBER. 29, 1928.
member the name during the war. Witness added that he did remom- bor it over a certain case.
Cross-examined by Mr. Jonkin; witness said that he was not
bó produced. He replied that part TRIBUTE TO PREMIER, of the cover was produced without his suggestion.
In answer to further questions witness said that the torn cover
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"NO MAN HAS EVER DONE MORE FOR COMMERCE.”
| entirely responsible for the word-was, produced to him first. The
ing of the charge against Tsang whole cover was produced later. Mr. W.R. Morris, President of On-wing and Chung Man-kun.
You will obaores that in both the Council of the Motor and And it was on the charge and of the covers the terminal serial Cycle Trades Benevolent Fund, two others in like language, that number of the bank has been presiding at the Fund's 23rd the man was brought before the
altered?—Yes.
annual banquet in London -con Was your attention drawn to Nov. 6. said that we had a won- Magistrate and held in Victoria, Gaol for 20 days? It was clear
that at that interview?--Yes. denful Prime Minister"
"I can say from the, bottom of to me that they might not be the
Did you make any enquiries s3 final charges.
to how that came to pass 7-No. my heart," he continued, "that Mr. Proctor went to get the row have never had in the history ceipts. We enquired from the of this country a man who has Bank for the cheque book receipts done more for the manufacturing to see if there was any corres concerns of this country than Mr. ponding alteration on that.
***Interview with Tsang,
These, in fact, were the only charges which were preferred against this man? Yes, to my knowledge. I feft the Colony on March 8.
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Mr. Jenkin pointed out that they were discharge on February 7 and re-instated in the Treasury. "As far as you were concerned the case was over as against them?"
Mr. King gave evidence as to breaking into the accused's office at China Building and finding cor—Yes, tain articles, Including cheque books and paying-in slips for each of the three banks concerned,
Replying to Mr. Potter, witness said that he attended at the Trea- sury on the afternoon of January 18, in response to a telophone call. He arrived there at about quarter to four when he saw Mr. Messer and the three allegedly forged cheques. He was told by Mr. Messer that the sum of money re- presented by the cheques had been obtained from the Government ac- count and that the cheques ap- peared to be forgeries.
Questioned with regard to the drafting of the charges, Mr. Jen- kin naked: “You, as an experienced officer were able to draft, tho charge yourself!- don't regard myself as an expert in drafting charges. I frequently consule the law officera. I don't frequently draft charges but I sometimes do. Witness agreed that he had an Interview with Teang On-wing before dotalning him. On Jan uary 18, between six and o'clock in the evening he Tsang certain questions.
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asked
Suspected Tsang. Did he give you reasons why, for- in his opinion, they were
Answering further questions gertes? Mr. Messer told ane that witness said that when he arrived he was af opinion that the cheques at the Treasury he spent some of the little time getting the procedure were forged because amounts of the cheques and the at the Treasury and during those names of the payees, nolther of enquiries it got to his knowledge which he had any recollection at that Tsang was responsible for all. He also said he would have re-writing up the cheques and that membered names of firms receiv-he had custody of the Government ing cheques for such big amounts.
The Search for Vouchers. Answering other questions, Mr. King sold in addition to painting out things in connexion with his signature, Mr. Mcaner admitted that the signatures were very much like his and very good forgeries: He left no doubt in your mind that his view was that they were forgeries? Oh no.
It has been suggested that Mr. Messer could not have been con vinced they were forgeries be cause of the hunt for vouchers and the fact that an examination was made in the Treasury.The
search was made for. vouchers because enquiries showed that the cheques had been extracted from Government cheque books and from previous experience it was one of the things the police would do and I should have asked to be done in this case.
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To see if there were any vou- chers that had any connexion with these cheques?-I considered it my duty to make further enquiries. Did Mr. Messer make any re ference to you with regard to Taang On-wing 7-Mr. Measer informed me he fully trusted Teang, that he had an unblemished character and did not suspect him,
The Name of Katz, Witness continued that he saw Tsang On-wing Intor in the oven ing and also his assistant, Chung
Man-kun. Witness detained' both of them that night and they were charged before the Police Magis trate with conspiracy. They were in custody for about 19 or 20 days. During that period a full police investigation was made as a result of which the charges were with drawn against both men. Witness was largely connected with the cuse personally.
Reverting to the interview bhe- tween Mr Messer and witness, Mr. Potter asked whether the name of any particulur payée was mentioned.
Mr. King replied that Mr. Messer commented on the Katz cheque Bay- ing that he (Mr. King) would re-
cheque books. He added that the first discussion he had with Tsang was at about a quarter to seven, Mr. King ad-led that he detained Tsang because he had seen specimen of Tsang's writing and had compared it with the body of the cheques and it had appeared to him to be similar and as Tsang also had custody of the cheque book, he should be the first per-
son held until the maller was cleared up.
Mr. Jenkin: What I am getting at is this. That it occurs to me that as a police officer investigat- ing the case that as soon as you learned of his relationship to cheques in general, you would have at once required to interview this man, unless there was good rea- son for not doing so?--I suspected Mr. Tsang..
Was that the reason why you did not have an interview with him until 7 o'clock?--I was busy interviewing Mr. Messer. Up til then I had no time to get down to Tsang.
Mr. King added that at 7 o'clock ho did not interview Tsang. All he did was to ask certain que tions regarding a few things found on Teang's desk, as to whether they were his property or
not.
Why They Were Detained. May I take it that you asked Tsang no question before you detained him with reference to the handwriting on the cheques?
You may.
Nor did you ask the other man, Chung Man-kun, about the three choques 7-No.
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Was your attention called to the alteration?Mr. Messer pointed it out.
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"Mr. Baldwin is at the bottom of all we have received. Give us Protection, and prices will go down. (cheers.) I hope wo shall come to the time when we shall ba protected to the same extent as others."
Full Book Signed For. Did he make any reference to the alteration of these numbers1 Americans, ho added, had put on -I can't swear as to whether a the markets of the world cars that, statement was made that after- had done remarkably well, “but," noon or at a later one. My recolhe added, "when I think that they fection is not quite clear.
have learnt all that they have
Mr. Jenkin told Mr. King he was at liberty to look at his notes in order that he might be better able to answer some of the ques- tions. Mr. King replied that he did not take notes of his inter- view with Mr. Messer in details.
Mr. Jenkin: "Why was Tsang · On-wing not asked about the altered numbers since Tsang was the custodian of the cheque books?"
Mr. King repented that he wAN not quite clear when Mr. Messer made the statement to him about the alteration. Meanwhile on that afternoon he had detained Tsang On-wing on suspicion,
Less Important Point,
I cannot conceive why It was that Tenng On-wing, the man who had custody of these cheques and so on could not have been asked to give some sort of explanation about it?-At that time it was a comparatively minor point.
Mr. King added that they were more concerned about the other 57 cheques to which Mr. Jenkin made a rejoinder to the effcet that Mr. Black was sent to the bank. specially to stop them.
Addressing Mr. King he asked?. Is your answer that Tsang was not asked about it becauso it was a minor point?—Yes, it was a less important point.
All the stubs were brought into Mr. Messer's office, were they not? Was it your suggestion? asked
to see some of them.
What were you searching for? One thing we wore looking to see how the cheques, had been ex- tracted. I compared stubs of these two books with others.
That would not be such an Im- portant point as finding out who had tampered with the cover?~~1 think it was.
Very well, did you discover how in your opinion the cheques had in fact been extracted 7-I came to the conclusion that they had been re- moved by undoing the back of the
book.
Mr. Jonkin asked whether that was not a material point on which Tsang On-wing could have been asked to offer an explanation.
Mr. King replied that he could have done so but did not because he suspected Tanng.
No Interrogation.
You did not ask him anything Why did you detain them?—I about the altered covers, anything detained them because they had about the discovery which you the custody of the Government thought you had made of the man- cheque books and my cursory ner in which the cheques were to believe abstracted. Your reason for this examination led me that the writing was Mr. Tsang's abstention from interrogating this or Mr. Chung's.
man was that having looked at the cheque and compared it with the. handwriting you suspected him?-- Yes, and the reason that I wWAS getting all the information from Mr. Messor to whom I would look for any information before I come to subordinate officers.."
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Witness added that the principal reason was because the two men were responsible for the custody of the cheques and that sixty had been abstracted.
Witness was asked whether he ever asked or suggested that the covers of the cheque books should
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