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INDIA'S STATUS - IN THE EMPIRE.
Imperial Conference Debate.
GRAVITY OF SOUTH AFRICAN PROBLEM.
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Mr. Sapru therefore earnestly trusted that Gen. Smuts would not refuse to co-operate with him in attempting to discover å sålu-j tion and agree on the appointment of a diplomatic agenk to be sent by the Government of India to South Africa to protect adjana there and act as an intermediary between them and the Sith African Government, and put the Government of India into ful possessión of facts relating to Indian nationals. Referring to the memorandum In connection with the Anglo-American negotiations with re-lustrations of the damage caused by Gen. Smuts circulated to the Conference, Mr. Sape said Gen. gard to the right to search a ship Be Tiquor outside the three mile by the recent floods in Hongkong. Smuts was asking the Dominion Prime Ministers treat the limit, it is understood that Britain has agreed to the American There will be two pictures of resolution if the 1921 Conference as a scrap of paper, and pass an proposal that British vessels shall be liable to search, within twelve Salyingyum School-one showing absolutely now resolution with the object of reserving the fullest miles or American shores, bat the three mile limit shall continue in the water rushing out of the The text of the speeches at the Imperial Conference on the freedom to each Dominion to pass its ownlaws regarding the franchise. force in other respects. A draft of the proposed treaty does not building, and the other the front Status of the Indian Empire has been issued.
Prudence prescribed limits to that constitutional right. Whenever specify the limit of search, and provides that the United States for of the school with the floods pour- they passed a law affecting the allegiance of a subject to his the first time shall recognise the three mile limit in all othering over the broken wall. Two Viscount Peel, introducing the subject on October 24, emphasised Sovereign, and the corresponding duty of the Sovereign to protect matters, and that British ships shall be allowed to carry spirits in further photos will show a huge that a solution of the problem was essential to the preservation of the the subject, they trod on very dangerous ground. Mr. Sapra said American waters under seal. hoity of Empire. Opinion in Indian was completely unanimous with he believed the British Empire stood for justice and equality, and
breach made in the roadway near regard to the matter, because Indians regarded the disability under asked would they make a place therein for India Indians and other
New York, November 1. the Slaughter House in Kennedy Commenting on the proposed "Anglo-American treaty granting Town: whilst the other pictures which their countrymen laboured elsewhere in the world as a brand coloured races could never be kept within the Empire forcibly, but an American right to search up to the twelve mile limit, the N. will depict the big hole cansed by of social inferiority. Lord Peel recalled that India contributed by preserving and safeguarding their sentiments. Indians Herald says it is a happy way out of an awkward situation, and the barst nullah at the bottom of 1,400,000 men and over two hundred millions sterling to the war aspirations to self-government, and equality in the Domatons and Congress bas only to exempt foreign shipping from the operation of Wyndham Street, and a huge fall India was sitting there on equal terms with the Dominions, and was Colonies, be fulfilled. India would stand shoulder to shooter with the Volstead Law and the wrong done to foreign nations will be of earth and rocks at the back of
ccepted by the League of Nations as one of the eight greatest them though thick and thin.
righted. The Morning World says the treaty will end two scandals,Belcher's Street. industrial States of the world. It was the intention and ambition of The Maburajah of Alwar urged that India should be given annamely the irritating attempt to impose the American prohibition Indians to share the glories of the British Empire. If the opinion assurance, of a more rapid advancement towards self-government laws on foreign peoples, and the rum running under the British flag, to-morrow's Telegraph.
Don't forget to get a copy of of India be disregarded, how could India be expected to co-operate He opined that self-government could then be achieved and but there is nothing elevating in the thought that the right thing wholeheartedly in the great work of consolidating the Empire. The smoothly. He eloquently pleaded for a remedying of the Indian's will be done nos because it is right but because each Government is cope of the problem, apart from South Africa was not very great grievances in the Dominions and Colonies. He said he believed the able to get something in exchange. There were only two thousand Indians in Australia and about 600 Indian Government would be prepared to enter into a mutha jurder-|k New Zealand, and 1,200 in British Columbia. Lord Feel reaffirmed standing to prevent immigrants flooding the Colonies. Finally what he stated at the Conference in 1921 with regard to India's suggested the advisability of allowing India to be called a Dominion.
M. POINCARE STATES FRENCH POLICY. complete acceptance of the Dominions" right to determine the com- bosition of their own community, and urged the Dominions to con-
Colonial Secretary's Statement.
LINE OF ACTION TO BE UNCHANGED. ider the matter generously. with justice and expediency The Duke of Devonshire, on behalf of the British Government,
Faria, November 1. combined in an appeal which must surely be irresistible. The accepted the principle of Mr. Sapra's request, but emphasised that with organising bankrupter, though ber resources were immense arise, awaiting instructions from
In a speech at Nevers, M. Poincare again charged Germany ime had come when these disabilities should be specificalște Government could not consent to reconsider the Kanye scision. He said they were witnessing the last spasms of resistance in the Wo Pa-fu and a reliable escort enrved.
Indian Delegate's Speech.
LADY MISSIONARIES.
ARRIVAL AT JUCHOW. Kaifeng, Nov. 1.-The lady madonaries arrived at Juchow on Monday and are at present staying there with other mission-
He pointed out that any questions affecting Indians in the Colonies Ruhr The German officials were returning to duty and the rail-to bring them out. Tuli Chang. and Protectorates should first of all be discussed by the propose was men were offering their services wholesale though only 27,000, from Kaifeng, last night took the committee with the Colonial Office, who would then consult the had been reinstated because Germany had not surrendered the field against the bandits-Reuter. Colonial Governments concerned, before any decisions could be essential rolling stock. The industrialists were coming one atter Mr. Sapro said he was fighting the cause of his country as taken. On the subject of a clear understanding on the matter, the the other to negotiate a resumption of deliveries in kind. Coal and subject of the King. He was fighting for a place in the King's Goveranient cordially welcomed the proposal by the representatives tonnage were ensured to France gratuitously, and were increasing RIOTS IN TIENTSIN. household, and would not be content with a place is his stables. of India as far as the Colonies and Protectorates were concerned. daily. They were beginning to receive the reward of their efforts. Indian allegiance to the Throne was a real living thing. IF that! illegiance be shaken, the foundations of the entire fabric would be to help towards a solution of the problem." He would be surprised if and they would not change it.
Mr. Mackenzie King emphasised that Canada was most anxious It therefore was not the moment to change their line of action, OBJECTIONS TO INCREASED haken. with consequences difficult to over-estimate. The one in dealing with the question in a spirit of appreciation of each reservations with regard to the proposed committee of experts. He concluded by reiterating the function of the Imperial Conference was to bring about a good other's difficulties, a conference between representatives of India What an injustice and peril it would be if Germany were freed
TRAM FARES. anderstanding between the units of the Empire and strengthen the and Canada could not work out a thoroughly satisfactory solation from a portion of her debt and a few years later re-appeared, re
(Our Chen Correspondent.) ies uniting them. If the Conference failed to achieve that, then it! would have failed to justify its existence in the eyes of the Empire. the consideration given the question, a committee such as stated let the Treaty be touched.
Mr. Bruce declared that in view of the position of Austha and stored and enriched, to humiliate and crush us! They would not
Shanghai, Nov. 2: Serious breaks of rioting Entire frankness was absolutely necessary in order to achieve that by Mr. Sapru would be unnecessary. Ee promised to consult his
have occurred in the native city end. Indians and the Indian Government had received the Kenya colleagues when he returned to Australia with regard to wift äetion;
at Tientsin in connection with decision with the utmost possible dismay, and felt that a serious could be taken.
hander had been made, but he believed that wise British statesman-
popular resistance to increases hip would soon recognise the mistake. Indians and the Indian
Mr. Massey, on behalf of New Zealand, endorsed Ma Sapru's
jin tram far. Government would not accept the decision as final. There were bout one and a half million Indians now settled elsewhere in the solution of the question had grown worse during the last two years, Gen. Smuts expressed the opinion that the atmosphere for A Empire, subjected in many places to grave politics and economic and had become worse in South Africa, partly owing to the visit of Risabilities. He tributed the Government of New Zealand for treat Mr. Sastri, while South African sympathy for Kenya had a very ng Indian or a footing of equality, so that Indians could live there serious reperenssion there on the whole Indian question. He opined s fellow citizens in honour. The disabilities of Indians in Aus ralia that the Kenya settlement was a wise compromise, bat the attitudeitative examination of the subject. Britain and all the Protectorates were also comparatively small. Indians hoped that legislation of the Indian Government on the matter had greatly perturbed him would soon be passed to enable them to exercise the franchise and The whole incident hat had a very bad effect in South Africa. femove the disqualification with regard to itvalid old age, and piror disabilities in Queensland, Western Australia and South
South Africa's Difficulties. ustralia He hoped Mr. Bruce would extend to him the hand of
proposal.
QUESTION OF EMPIRE EXCHANGES. EXPERTS HOLDING A CONFERENCE.
London, November 1.
The police finally qualled the demonstrators. Many were in-
to inquire into the question of Empire exchanges has begun to take arrested.
The committee appointed by the Imperial Economic Conference jured and the ring-leaders were ridence. The committee is a very representative one, and contains number of experts on monetary questions, thus ensuing an author- are represented Sir Charles Addis is among the British representa-
THOSE CRULERS.
tives, while Sir James Stevenson represents the Crowa Colonies and
FOUR REACH SWATƆW. Protectorates. The committee must report to the Conference while A proclamation issued in Swa- the latter is in being, therefore it must work quickly, bai as, in view tow by Admiral Wan Shu-tak of the highly technical character of the inquiry, the number of com-states that four cruisers, includ
llowship. In this, he was willing to co-operate with Mr. Bancrewpoint were very great. It was not a question of colour, nor of the petent witnesses is small, the committee should be able to report soon. Jing the Yung Chang, have return-
nd devi-e methods for a solution of these difficulties.
Problem in South Africa.
Gen. Sinuts emphasised that the difficulties from the African.
inferiority of Indians, but the case of a small community finding itself in danger of being overwhelemed by a much older and more powerful civilisation, and the economic competition of a people with entirely different standards and viewpoints. There were in South
LABOUR'S REPLY.
ed to rejoin the squadron in order..
ton to deal with them.
to render assistance in the unifi- cation of the country. Four Mr. Sapru went on to say that the most difficult part of his task Africa over six million natives, and one and a half million whites.
ABSOLUTELY AGAINST PROTECTION.
other ships, including the Wing vas in South Africa, where the problem was very serious. There The 160,000 indians were mostis in Natal. Equal manhood suffrage
London. November 1 Fung, owing to boil-r defects, ere 161010 Indians in South Africa, of whom only a few thousand would mean that the whites in Natal would be swamped by Indins, form of a resolution adopted by a joint meeting of the General Coun-added that if anyone attempts to Labour's considered raply to Mr. Baldwin has been issued in the remain in Canton River. It is vere politically enfranchised, while they also suffered severe and the whites all over South Africa would be swamped by the cil of the Trades Cnion Congress and the Labour Party, calling upon will be considered enemies and Zonomic bandicaps, and the Union Government was contemplating blacks, and the whole position for which they had striven for two all the Labour organisations and their members to assist to the the squadron will return to Can- damage these latter four, they egislation providing for compulsory segregation of Indians in urban centurice would be surrendered. It was a question of the existence utmost the specious arguments for protection, and to press on the reas by restrictions as to ownership and occupation of land. Deal of white South Africa. No Government could tamper with the posi ng with the position of Indians in the Colonies. Mr. Sapru said he tion or do anything to meet the Indian viewpoint.. oped the Colonial Office would very sympathetically consider the rievances of the Indian in Tanganyika before arriving at any hut was not entitled to dictate to the other Dominions with regard Mr. Fitzgerald said tha: Ireland sympathised with the Indians, ecision. As regards the administration of the "C" mandated tero what they did in their own areas. itories, Jadians could not acquiesce in any position making or likely
make their status inferior to what it was when those territories committee to Australia to submit the Indians case, Mr. Bruce Mr. Sapru, replying, said he hoped if India decided to send a ere administered by Germany. Referring to the resolution of the would not refuse to accept that rommittee. Conference of 1931. Mr. Sapru said there was a growing sentiment! India against emigration. We don't want our nation outside. india to appear as a nation of coolies. We have had enough of that."
Mr. Sapru's Reply.
Replying to Gen. Smuts, Mr. Sapru declared that there could
electorate Labour's policy of work and wages, with provision far adequate maintenance for reserves of industry, to be secured by) tion and development, and putting into operation Labour's general international reconstruction and co-operation, national reorganisa
programme to meet the erging social and economic ills, as the only real alternative to protection.
THE CENTENARY OF RUGGER."
MEMORABLE MATCH AT RUGBY SCHOOL.
London, November 1.
In honour of the centenary of the Rugby game, a match between
There was plenty of scope for the energy of Indians in India, there- not be two kinds of citizenship, a higher and a lower, in the Empire. ore the Dominions need have no fear on that account. He asked when I go to your country and satisfy the requirements of the combined English-Welsh and Scottish-Irish teams was played in Fhat steps the Dominions, apart from South Africa, had taken to franchise law, you have no right to tell me, because I am an Indian Rugby School close, which was killed by Bugby football Notabilities onour the 1921 agreement. He admitted there were difficulties, but! india was absolutely unable to acquiesce in the present position subject of His Majesty, that I am not entitled to exercise my of several generations. The close holds two thousand spectators, herefore he earnestly appealed to them to join him in devising
parliamentary rights."
and enough applications for tickets were received to fill the space methods intended to give effect to the principal of equality em Devonshire and the Dominion Premiers showed there was no general
Viscount Peel emphasised that the statements of the Duke of several times. There was glorious weather. odied in the resolution.
The result was: England and Wales beat Scotland and Ireland ban against Indians in the Empire. They were not placed in an in-by 31 points to 16, ferior status all over the Empire. Such disabilities as they suffered were not based on colour or racial grounds. He opined that the position of Indians within the Empire had made a very notable
Further Committees Proposed.
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IMPORTANT CONFERENCE DECISIONS.
London, November 1.
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Mr. Sapru then outlined a proposal that the Dominion Gov advance in the Conference, and he suggested that Mr. Sapru should romente concerned and the British Government in the areas not press his resolution because some members might be indisposed secure Imperial uniformity in invoices and bills of lading patents and 12.
The Economic Conference has adopted resolutions tending to to the World Theatre-Pages 4 nder their direct control, such as Kenya and Uganda, should ap- to vote for it because they thought the method proposed was un-and reciprocal enforcement of judgments rendering Empire Gov- oint committees to confer with a committee which the Govern- necessary and undesirable, and such a vote might create a totally ernments engaging in trade in any other part of the Empire amen- arrival of the ss. "Botton Castle." heat of India would send from India to explore the avenues, show-false impression in India. ag how best and soonest the principle of equality implied in the
able to the same taxation and other liabilities as private trading 121 resolution mi ht be implemented. In order not to prejudice delegation would feel as he felt, that the discussions had been very object of securing reciprocal extension of this practice with foreign Mr. Baldwin, winding up the debate, said he hoped the Indian bodies. The Conference also agreed to open negotiations with the be enquiry, any pending anti-Indian legislation should be stayed helpful and encouraging. There had been not merely goodwill and countries. ntil the report of the joint committees be available. He explained
ant he wanted a committee to be appointed by each Dominion with an earnest attempt to meat India's wishes as far as possible, but its own bo ders to confer with the committee appointed by defini e results due to a growing sense of partnership of all the peo- ples and races owing common allegiance to the Crown. The
MASONIC MEMORIAL TO WASHINGTON.
-Alexandria, Virginia, Kovember 1. President Coolidge, members of the Cabinet diplomats, and
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ce Government of India, which would visit each Dominion. That magnitude of India's bara in our common partnership and ber as his appeal to the Dominions, expect South Africa, and to the contribution to the common weal was being increasingly realised, leading Masonic officials witnessed the laging of the corner stone ofA notice concernmza piece of mperial Government. As regards the Colonies he urged them to and the Conference could congratulate itself on what it had affected the Masonic national memorial to George Washington. It will be land in Canton appears on Page 4. ve time to calm the angry passions of India and create a more opeful feeling in India, and thus enable all of them to Gen. Smuts denied the description of it as aubtle; on the contrary Washington relics.
Referring to the memorandum mentioned earlier by Mr. Sapri, in the frm of a Greek temple, which will be the repository for Mr. M. M. Fitz-Henry has been Fing all their forces to bear on finding a solution to the he declared it was a truism that all he had said therein was that there roblem, and at solutely safeguard the Independence of the was one British citizen over the whole Empire but it was a pro- Jominions.
found mistake to derive rights of franchise from such citizenship.
ITALY BACKS BRITAIN.
Rome, November. 1 Mr. Sapru then appealed to General Smuts, as a humabitarian. He contended that the franchise did not depend upon British Italy is supporting the British proposal for a joint Allied in help to raise the status of Indians in South Africa. He also ap- citizenship. Only in India was this position not understood. Invitation to the United States to participate in finting solution of galed to him as an Imperial statesman who was trying to bring illustration of this argument he said he did not think az Australian the reparations problem.
ce to the world. "Is he going to exclude from that happy mis coming to South Africa should claim the franchise as a matter of
7 his country and his mind? If the Indian problem in South coume. He thought where there was a distination, between British
Sea be allowed to ferter much longer it would become a question citizenship and the exercise of political rights carried into metua)
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