in the way in which Sir R. M. Lefevre

drafted the convention

I have sent you the following

despatch & Advices relating to the

banishment & deported criminals.

pr. no: 12270/70.

1145-11387-

11380

I do not send

4/7. U.S. Leone

In this and N. 3.

June

with a copy of

the Attorney General's report to both to Parliament

I request the forwarding

of despatch, and remarks thereon.

To the

I am in

opposition to the

proposed change, with certain limitations to secure that the

the frontier

at.

tom line

the "Examination should be confined to the charge - But it might work well in England, not in this Colony.

further reply is promised

by next Mail, so that this reference will either be

delayed until then

My 15 Ordinance No 4.

has received such reply.

This Ordinance was drawn out

modified in accordance with the permission framed by Buckingham in his despatch of

August 1867.

Sir Mowbray

HW Haggard

3839

R

June 13/72

2360 HK

77

Extract from

Despatch will be found

in favour of

the Branding with the consent of the Prisoner, &

under the

very

peculiar circumstances

I concur with them. But I differ from

Kimberley

on 4224 that he is

not prepared to assent to this

dealing with criminals, and unless his

opinion is changed, the assent to the Ordinance which has a pending clause should be withheld.

However Lord Kimberley is willing to revive the Experiment branding, there remains the question of flogging upon conviction for a crime

referred to the Money.

after

a convict

The views of Lord MacDonnell, and those of Lord Kimberley upon this point.

will be found

Divested upon 4222/24

When

the crime, which has

The Ordinance does not specify shall render the criminal liable to flogging, must be in the opinion of the Court "of brutal, inveterate

Measures

or mischievous as to justify extraordinary

here is the Supreme Court. and as the fact

on his Lordship to think that sufficient power is vested

hardly

of Flogging.

unscrupulous sentences

It might however be as well to state

"I understand the term is not to refer

the Supreme Court only

I not to include magistrates

in whom the power is not considered to be vested.

J.T.H.

1/6

Smates us

I would refer the Ordinance des 3 to Major General

& Mr. Hohdun, with opinion that

regard

To Admiral No 4 I retain the same

my brief minute on 4224. With reference

to Lord Kimberley's minute following, I would remark that

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