No. 8617
The
Hongkong Telegraph.
Humidity...78, 75.
«ESTABLISHED Copyright, 1911
WEDNESDAY NOVE
ENGLAND AND GERMANY.
SIK.
uk-Y'S SPELH
A MOMENTOUS OCCASION.
The following is the conclusion of Sir Edward Grey's Speech on Foreign Policy and the debate
which followed ¦ ¦
POLITICAL ALCOHOLIEM: Bir Edward Grey, continuing, said,
have failed to protect our interests and fulfil our obligations to France. If the question had been perina noatly settled the part we have taken las contributed materially to an ex-
this will be the sense of the House,
There was, loud and prolonged.
TELEGRAASE
MR. KEIR HABDIE'S FEARS The Earl of Ronaldaliay hoped that the Government would intimate to Italy and Turkey their willinguess to mediato.
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Sir E. Grey's speechi has croat-
gling to secure special editions fed a good impression on the
Sir Edward Gray's speech.
National Zaitung
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The
LANSDOWNE'S EULOGY.
ways that gir stock exchange. Consols are E. Groy placed himself on a pedes fraction higher. bal, from where he lectured on Ggr- The French Pross in a chorus] man diplomacy. The~""Loka'an of approval of the spoooh, says Zaiger ” saya ́it must be acknowledg. that it will. ronsaure Europe and Mr. Noel Buxton audir Libod that the speech was oouched in the help to maintain, ponce. trais continued the debate, and were joiou if the assurances of British most, tranquil terms. Germans ro-
Durban, Nov. 20. confident that Sir Edward Gray's statesunon havo-more than a day's
duration. Tho Tageblats" says Lord Lansdowne, leader of the statement would dispel any laun that, according to Sir Edward Gry, Conservative Party in the House dorstandings Mr&Koir Hardle
Eugland wants to live on a footing of of Lords, sporking in theit cham- equality, with Gormany, but his “ut- foared it would mean an unnecessary rernuces prove that England this er eulogised Sir E: Grey'specol exponditure on the British and Gerner placed herself out a higher as one of the must remarkable footing that of controller of the ever delivered by a Secretary of ld. The Gormans would not State for Foreign Affairs. Tho tolerate an unlimited right of vito, speech ochood what was believed. TheRundschau" says the sporch to be a general desire for better was a disappointment to all hoping relations with Germany.
a decisive change in the direct cu
In the Lords, Lord Courtney of an Anglo-German rapprochement thekod the Government policy The German Government must atin Morocco. Ile complained that last, it says, recognise what is need. Sir E. Grey appeared to believe ful. The Vossische" declares that
nan havies
LABOUR VIEW.
Mr. Ramsey Macdonald, who
said he had never known such a drą matic condemnation of secret dipio. macy as Sir Edward Grey's speech
the conference had been proposed, and dormiany had not agreed to it, ha now proposed to examine the real what would have been the situation nature of the tension that oxistal-then-You-would-have-list-threr An agreement had now been reached countries making agreements of between the French and German questions to which wo, were not made pectation of pence, and I trust that spoks on behalf of the Labourites, Govornments, and both sidos had' a party, and probably making agree- made some substantial concessions ments which we could not recognise and made substantial gains. The in settlement until we had been con fact that this has been accom, sultech. Therefore you seo at the plished," he said, “in face of all time of the anxiety negotiations were the excitement that oxisted, reflects developing towards the most delicate great credit on the diplomats con diplomatic situation. The hope that ducting the negotiations. But, de the statement, as to events will re- spite these facts, the present moment move any apprehensions is a state has been chosen by some people, bollment of truth and, actual, facts as
4
We
that there is now no prospect of war. the statement ought to have a quict- enig influence, and ought to act na o sedative to those who have grown
clarniod.
here and in Germany, to excite them they existed. In view of the fact salves and, to discuss how near, camo to war. There are really some people who seem to take a delight in suggesting or forming an opinion from whatever gosip or information they can get in any quarter, that we were near war, and the nearer we
FOREIGN POLICY.
Turning to foreign policy, I gener
were war the greater satisfaction they ally thought that the wisest policy
seem to get out of the fact. Really, it is as if the world were suffering from a fit of political alcoholism."
Referring to Herr Faber's speech,
for Britain was to expand further an little as possible, especially in Africa 1 replied to the criticists as tuli- alleged sucrecy of the Forelyn (Qf
Sir Edward said he only mentionely last week. The secret articles
-
cheering is Sir Edward resumed The time liad pomo when anfinquiry feelings. In an article' the "Boeng with Franco.
pont.
NO MORE TERRITORY
WANTED.
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PERSIA.
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THEM
REBELLION,
THE SEASON'S WINNERS.
(Our Own Cortepondent.)
Tondon, Nov. 28,0,50 m. the racing scaron and Mr. J. B. Juel Lord Derby wou £42,721, during
The sum of 434,574 Wootton had 187 wins, Trigg 111, and Maher 99. HANYANG CAPTURED.. Via Bombay, Nov. 38, 3 pin. Peking reports that Consular de patches from Hankow state that the imperialists captured Hanyang 'yOC=\" terday after prolonged and desperate bghting. The rebels, who suffered armolts lusses, fled to Wueliang.
thero was no anti-Garman feeling in wan diametrically opposed to a policy satisfactory on nostable. Its Germiony'snavat expansion shonbetween the M.C C. and Now South"
this country.
and Germany should be removed,
PERSIA'S HOPELESS ATTI. TUDE.
Sir Edward Groy, replying to the We do not want any more terri- debate, said he had no information bory," added Mr. Borac Taw amidst by which to prove or disprove the "Our responsibilities are reports of atrocities, at Tripoli. The
cheers, gront mough already,"
the matter because that spanels form of the Anglo-French convention of HE PREMIER'S STATEMENT policy of non-intervention.
ed the subject of some recent discus. sion in the Reichstag, und he under stood it somewhat intentifed the Hil- torness of the German people.” “Of course, I know it is possible," h
1904 have been made, publić, and •
cher are be other secret trestin
The
Russin while
AUSTRALIAN CRICKET.
VICTORIA V. SOUTH AUS.
TRALIA.
REBELS SEEK TERMS.
consent to tho,
temre, especially the retention of the present dynasty
PEKING JUBILANT. There is jubilation anong the officials at Peking over the Imps- rinliat recapture of Hanyang and rebellion will now orumblo to Wachang. They believe that the insignificance.-Router.
WUCHANG CAPITULATES. Shanghai, Nov. 28, 6.10 p.m. Sir Edward Grey's speech alters no-it impossildo lo establish the anme
Wachang capitulated to the Im- thing in the political conditions or cordial friendship with Germanyerialists today. The revolutionary leaders are disiring to negotiate for sen Courier” says that the utter- Lord Morley emphasised that reace, and aro suggesting certain al should be undertaken to ascertainances of the British Minister are not the Anglo-French Agreement of terations in the Government, pro the best way of keeping the Comcalculated to inspire over-much hope 1901 was in no way hostile to gramme The Government is en-
us in touch with foreign affairs.una relations, while the Vo
na to an improvement in Anglo-Germany,, moreover its essonee deavouring to accure an immediato was that Great Britain should cassation of hostilities at Nanking. the Goyeriment wished Mr. Lloyd waerts" declares that the specchi have a free hand in Egypt, and Thero is a temporary lull at Nanking, Mr. Bonar Law said there was Gerge's epege to have a pacião, ef-
thoroughly conciliatory.
Franco a free hand in Morocca, and the revolutionaries are unable to nothing in Sir Edward Gray's state-fect, it is, uld have been followed im
It would be intolerable if we, after breach the walls. Two 4.7. guus on Sir Edward Groy defende i the taking our share of the profits carriages are going up to-night. ment which he desired to criticise, mediately by a pronouncement by Anglo-Persian Agreement, which should in any way refuse Frange (Special Service)
Vin Durban, Nov. 28, 9.15 a.m. but he would like to point out that, Sir Edward, Grey. Public apinione into existence because the here. Hoferring to Germany, le
After continuous rain, the matchi situation in Persia was very unsaid that there was no reason why
Wales was drawn. Foster took An Anglo-German involving a partition of Peran, or vbject was to prevent Croat Bintpair the desire for cordial tree wickets for 36 ruus, and Doug war would be an inconceivable cal; making Engiand the tool of St. Peally, mining and contermining untion. Germany's great pogo
lain and Ilussia from diplomatic-friendship pervading the whole as also had three for 35. amily. He thought the Premier tersburg. Mr. Don and Mr. Sykes against each other.
of all kinds entitled her to nation- should have spoken in the House, re (V.) also denounced the secrecy of
Mr. Morgan Shuster, the Amer-ul ideals, and lofty ambitions. garding the negotiations rather then diplomacy.
ican Financial.Commissioner, had Her desire to find ferritoriot for sot to work with good intentions hor surplus population wis most outside. He desired that every ground of friction between ourselves
and single-mindedness, but did natural. No Cabinet could be: Service to the "Telògraph."],
"Bombay, Nov. 29 not take into account the peculiar moro determined not to drift. in- political considerations underly-to a single unnacowary and im Renter's Hankow "unrrespond. ing the agreement, and he appolitie antagonism than the pre-ent statos that the revolutiennries over maile a socret of expressing would be successfully carried out. tice to secure the uliovagnent's pointed Major Stokes, who had sontons and, that determination have asked fora three days armis his anti-Russian feelings.
Sisters appointcontes of Government Ead adhered to the|Britishera at Shiraz and Ispalián, Hobjected to the appointment of M. Lo Coffre ut Tabriz, which Right Hon. Mr. H. H. Alt sjefly with Porsia, and said was not the Russian frontier. 7 Brush Government woul, emith said he was heartily in sym-it was an essential condition of in- The attitude of Russia. was not
(Service to the Telegraph") werk and war without the suprer thy with the desire for a clearer dependence that account should be unreasonable as an adherence to Mr. Shuster's principle would lead
Durban, Nov. 283 1* public opíaˇon" (Chfera) 174 fuller disclosure of the Foreign taken both of Ray'a and Great Bri-simply to anglicising the Persian In the Interstato inotch br- continued, for me to reply that inted out years age the plentitude roller to the country, and particu. tain. The Persian Government, in official service and the disappear tween Victoria and South Austra auce of the agreement. Sir Ed-in the form ar scored 553 in the of armorsians ar d'alarms with France lely to the Commons. All reason stead of soeing Bussian Interests reward reviewed the dispate be- first innings (W W. Aimstrong Passin, but media friendship men, however, would admit that spocted, sought to thrust out Russian tween the Russiaus and Mr. 250) and South Australia seorol
diplomery was of necessity secret. influence. That was a
Shuster and said, that as "Mr. 232 and 180.---Router, perfectly
Shuster was in American citizon country could carry on, diplo hopeloss attitude.
he had a perfect right to circulate macy with cards on the table, the The
what he pleasedon political affairs, door open and th blinds drawn up,
but he had no right to circulate as a Persian official pamplilets Negotiations must be carried on un
ENGLISH PRESS OPINION. der the shroud of confidence, with
He defended the despatch of Brit-The deaths are announcol of there were 12 casualties-Reator, · more or less necrcoy, which was quite
Via Durban, Nov. 28, 9.50 a.m.
ish troops on the ground of the Mr. Alfred Holt, the Liverpɔól | n different thing from boing kept in
The papers generally "chorus the chaos and insecurity of the lives slip owner and Baron Gustive darkness or from the representatives praise of Sir Edward Grey on bis aut property of Britishora. He- Rothschild of Paris-Router. ·
ferring to the independence of of the people. He said quite frankly masterful and laid exposition of the Pareia ho said that it was abso- that the Government could not be foreign policy, and they hope that lutely essential to it to take ac guilty of such a chargo.
the conciliatory overtures will be recount of the Anglo-Russian inter- eels in the paris adjoining the Ho did not believe that Germany general question the Government which they are made. The excep heran ought to realize the impos ceived by Germany in the spirit in frontier. He concluded by say
[Service to "The Telogiopl2"] ing that the Government at Te- had aggrozive designs. Germany's actuated by humane considerations
Darban, Nov: 287 ucighbours merely desired to live on in safoguarding British interests and
tions are the
Daily News," and, (sibility of employing an
Mr. Lloyd Georigo nidressed “a INTERMITTENT ANXIETY.
equal terms with her. He empha performing treaty obligations, which Leader. The former criticises Bir ar to vilempt, to thrust out ne-
to, a less extent, the "Morning who was openly hostile to Russia [Service to the "Telegraph,"]
servant deputation on the Insur- Dubin; Nov. 28. Naturally, there was an anxiety, fed that to trust to a policy of he believed had been reciprocal to Edward Grey's accounts of the
nuce Taxand.dwelt on tlie bonefits sian interests from North Persia.
Router's Paris correspondent and the various forms which they not a constant but an intermittent splendid isolation was impossible, It
SPEECH AFTERMATH. High Cannuissioner of the Oran might take. He pointed out that the advantage of our friendships. We events, and diesents from his sugges anxiety as to how the negotiaions bo. would mean that we should have to were neither oxclusive nor jealous, tigu that we have got to take sides in
district of Morocco who played all parties in the Commons sap- tween France and Germany were to build warships, not against the two-
Sir Edward Chrey in reply to several French dilicials underported the inclusion of servants..
be brought to a final solution. We Power standard, but against the
and we had no desire to stand in the Europe. The journal mays that the Mr. Byles said that there ind test in October has been rotire. If there were a desire on the part were in communication with Franes, united nations of Europe. It Ger. light of any Power wanting to find abandonment of the policy of isola bean no communications with M. Desaillon, Government Cam of a vast majority of forvants to reference to utilising thie. Abor missioner for Oran, one of the be excluded the House of Com Wo know she desired a settlement;
ite place in the sun. We had notion meant.years of unprecedented Expedition for the demarest on officers place. under arrest, has mous qui listen to them.- we knew she would not break off the
purpose and no such wish, anxiety and expense, and there was of the Chinese frontier of the been suspended ponding an in-Reuter,
British and Chines spheres. quity, negotiations, neither did we believo
"We bellovo," las maid, "it is both no prospect of improvement unless
General Drude sicceeds Gon- Mr, Asquith said that a Com
A FINCHLEY-TRAGEDY. that Germany would do that, Bus
to our interest and duty that we ought in a bolder spirit than that mission to enquire into the trade eral Toutes. Router.
Some particulars in velution to, still there was a "possibility that the
should maintain our friendships, We shown by Bir Edward Grey. Nother of the Empire would be appointed
early as possible. He was un-this scandal will be found oʻster \n"góliation might be broken off, In conclusion, Sir Edward Grey shall all be the more glad if wo das the Cabinet for the party is happy able to promise that it would be where.Ed.]
though personally I never rega:ded said: In future the great matter re enlarge them to include others, We with his policy. The Morning completed at the end of the your It as a probability. At the time ei Morocco would no longer trouble the know of no cause to quarrel with any will to Germans among us, which fl-member from eneli Dominion) Leader'""'orproses downright good-Ile proposed that there shouf | be
thers were, one or two sperches made in the Reishag which were rinf ficial sporchen, to which we ourselves. might take reasonable exception, and as far as Herr Faber's sprínch is not- cerned he is not an official menher, .
Then there were other speechre which had been made in Germany, which might also give us reason to feel bit tor, but one speech leads to another in those matters, and I can only do my best to alleviate the suspicions
which baye arison, by examining what was the position towards the summer and towards the end of Sep
tember,
ovided a mutual tole hich has prevented difficulties ailerwied might arise.
reurig' strongthi was of itself a
route that none would sock a Terrol with her, but Gorman publio opinion ought to remember that a nation having the biggest ariny in the world, with a very big navy, must do all in its power to provent natural apprehensions in the minds
of others."?
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many, did not wish to bọ aggressive, in two or tires years the talk of a great European war must have pam
od
away.
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suck
On the
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The debate was adjourned, Sir Ed ward Groy promising to give another day if desired.
OBITUARY,
THE WAR
ITALIAN JOSSES.
[Service to the "Telegraph."]
Durban, Nov. 28. Router's Rome correspondent
a:tacking a neighbour of Persia. [Service to the Telegraph."states that the Italian losses on
Durban, Nov. 28, Such a situation was impossible.
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ollicial
Bombay, Nov. 27.
and six from the United King
anxiety, a reply was received from peoples of Europe, now that a solus of the Powers. Britain's interents not adequately expressed by Bir Ed- dom.
THE MOROCCAN SCANDAL
·FRENCH GENERAL
RETIRED. S
PERSIA
Sunday at Tripoli were 10 killed and 104 woun land at Derna
p
INSURANCE BILL:
·POSITION OF SER-
VANTS.
FX SHOWMAN MURDERED.
Durlan, Nov The funious ex-showman Tor
hisresidence, a farm near Kin night by on empl murderer killed. chopper an I two of were seriously wongilou,
Gormany which pointed to the fact tion was found. The part we have will always be to maintain the peeps | wand Grey's cautious cordiality. Rauter understands thrie Rae Borvies to do Telegraph.orgo Sanger was murdered
that they would not be agreeable to played is subsidiary, the principals of the wo 21, kas ajoh
our dipe
conference That was why the anal.tyn was greated: But suppoding
were France and Germany, Hadratic pol'i taglin
we taken a low interest wo Ra
BERLIN EXCITED THREATEN 1" "lin was in a most excited con- Ke 1. Ziday evening. The streets
s's demende dio removal, of Mr. Shuster pad that the American Gerornment is not prepared to support him,
Bombay, Nov. 29.
The Russian troops will not vance further in P'era unless ne- Censity arises Reuter,