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LEGISLATIVE COUNCIL,

A special meeting of the Hongkong Legisla tive Council was held on the 17th inst, at the Council Chamberat 3pm. Present-His Excel lency the Governor, Sir Henry Blake, G.C.M.G.. Hon. J. H. Stewart-Lockhart, C.M.G. (Cológial Secretary), Hon. W. Chatham (Acting Director of Public Warks), Hon. R. M. Rumsey, ·R.N. (Harbour Master), Major Genem Sir W. Gas coigne, K. C.M.G., Hon. C. Mcl. Messer. Hon. H. E. Follock, K, G. Hon C. P. Chater, C.M.G., Hon. J. J. Bell-Irving, Hon. T. H. Whitehead, Hon. J. Thorburn, Hon. Wei A Yuk, Hon. Dr. Ho Kai and Mr. C. Clementi (Acting Clerk of Councils.)

The minutes of the last meeting were read and adopted.

THE LATE EMPRESS FREDERICK. The Colonial Secretary laid on the table copies of a telegram of Condolence on the death of Her Imperial Majesty the Empress Frederick of Germany, and acknowledgment

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chant Shipping Consolidation Ordinance, 1899 ordinary that in dealing with the question the ple administration which at first will amount (Ordinance 36 of 1899), t

hon, member had forgotten that fact. With re to little more than supervising local bodies and The Hon. T. H. Whitehead moved an amend-gard to the question of increasing the staff of protecting life and property!! In consequence ment to the effect that the owners of stermers the Public Works Department it would be in of the great difference which exists between should not be made reponsible for expanses the memory of all members of the Comcil, the estimated and the actual figures of revenue incurred through the remeal and treatment although apparently forgotten by the hon.and expenditure in the New Territory during member who had just spoken; that it that those two years I think the Council is entitled ashore of passengers who may be taken lon

very Council the late Director of Public Works, to some further explanation than that yet given, board.. It was lost by nine votes to four.

The Bill was left in the committee stage.. Mr. Ormsby, was asked about the matter and The honoumble member has been hitherto had stated that, with a few slight changes regarded as a high authority on affairs Chinese, The Colonial, Secretary moved the third which were afterwards carried out his staff and in a memomble memorandum relating to a HE, the Governor, was petition to the House of Commons fram reading of the Bill entitled An Ordinance to was quite sufficient-

'not satisfied that the staff was sufficient, and it members of the community in 1894 nsking for apply a sum not exceeding Three million Seven hundred and Thirty-nine thousand Three hun-was with the object of ascertaining, what in an amendment in the constitution of the Go crease of the staff was necessary that a Com-vernment of the Colony, the honourable mein dred and Twelve Dollars and Twenty-six cents

her claimed that most of the petitioners were to the Public Service of the year 1902.

mission had been appointed and he was sure The Acting Colonial Treasurer seconded the they would give that important matter the very notoriously ignorant of Chinese affairs, and that' motion, and the Council agreed..

serious consideration and attention which it the customs and peculiar requirements of the Chinese were a sealed book to the British THE COCHRANE STREET COLLAPSE: SEARCH-

thoroughly deserved. ING QUESTIONS.

residents in the Colony, while it was notor ious that the Unofficial Members very ignorant of Chinese and Chinese require- ments. The difference between, the honour able member's estimates in respect of revenue and expenditure in the New Territory and, the actual figures realised stems' incomprehensible. would like to know about when the revenue will come up to the estimate.

H.E. the Governor said that with reference The Han. T. H. Whitehead, in moving the to the question of the staff of the Public Works reduction by $too of the item in the Supply Department, as the Colonial Secretary had just stated, the late Director of Public Works was Bill, under Governer and Legislatura said.-- In the magisterial enquiry into the loss of distinctly of the opinion that the staff of the SALARIES OF SUBORDINTAE OFFICIALS. forty-three lives caused by the tumbling down Department was sufficient. Even so late as when Arising out of the report of the Finance in August this year of the houses Nos. 32 and Mr. Ormsby was going home the question was Committee the Colonial Secretary said he had 34 Cochrane Street, the fact was conclusively put to him as to the appointment of an additional promised the hon. member representing the demonstrated that the Public Works Depart-officer and whether the staff was sufficient or Chamber of Commerce on the Finance Comment was grievously undermanned. In your not, and his opinion, so late as that, was that address to the Council on 26th ult. your, there was no necessity for any increase in the mittee to enquire into the question of the salaries of subordinate officials. He had gone Excellency stated that the present financial Department, and that the staff was quite WEDNESDAY, 20th Nov., at Noon. carefully through the pages of the Hantard, position of the Colony is satisfactory, that on sufficient. Their present Acting Director of .SATURDAY, 7th December, at Noon. in which the question was considered, but 31st December, 1900, the assets of the Colony Public Works, however, did not hold sailar .........SATURDAY, 14th December, at Noon.had failed to find anything of the nature of showed a balance over fiabilities of upwards views. When a member pointed out there

of $1,100,000, and that the assets by the end of

was a large sum of money which had been

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ment can therefore not be due to any want undermanning of the Public Works Depart-fact that the voting and the spending were two different things. It was not always possible to of funds. This Department, so grievously find the labour on which to spend it. Surely undermanned, was largely, if not mainly, re-

it must be within the memory of all hon, sponsible for the faulty erection of the extra

members that in the earlier part of the summer work in the Colony was almost entirely storey on 32 and 34, Cochrane Street, the tumbl-

were

The Colònia! Secretary, in replying, said the hon. member's.remarks were not calculated to throw any light on the question; indeed, they would appear rather to mislead one. If the hon. member had tried to read the report with the object of learning something from it instead of wishing to misinterpret it, he would have seen

venue wohld be. That revenue. had not been

raised; it was found impracticable to raise it for reasons which the Colonial Secretary did not propose to mention then. With regard to the question of land, the hon. member must" be aware of the great difficulties with which the

obstacles which even one who had had the ex- perience of Chinese such as he bad not foreseen. This was the first instance, where a Western Government had attempted to take over a large

HE P. M. Company's Steamship "CHINA," will be despatched for SAN FRAN. distinct promise or undertaking that their this year would be largely increased. The voted and not spent he thought he forgot the that the report stated what the probable re- THE CISCO, SHANGHAI, NAGASAKI, INLAND SEA, KOBE, YOKOHAMA and HONOLULU, TOMORROW, the 19th instant, at Noon, taking Freight for Japan, the united States, and Europe. Passengers are allowed to break their journey at any point Through Passage Tickets granted to England, France and Germany by all trans-Atlantic lines of Steamers, and to the principal cities of the United States or Canada.

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the papers dealing with the subject showed clearly the desire of the Committee appointed to enquire into the question that any increase that might be recommended should take place without any unnecessary delay, and that opinion was shared by His Excellency, because

Colonies, he recommended that the increase, should take place from the tat January this year, but the Secretary of State did not see his way to approve of that recommendation. In view of the Supply Bill before them, which he thought revealed a very satisfactory state of

Colony was concerned, he expressed a hope, which he was sure was shared by every mem- ber of the Council, that His Excellency would see his way to make further representations on the subject to the Secretary of State so that the sub-ordinates might be relieved from any feeling of dissatisfaction, especially as a num her of the representative heads and assistant

and were drawing them while the salaries of the sub-ordinates were being inquired into by the Committee. The Chinese employes also had received an increase. In view of those circumstances he trusted His Excellency would ace his way to make further representations on the matter to the Secretary of State for the Colonies (applause).

deaths. The community would like to know

do the work, there were not goo to be got. who is responsible for allowing the said

That very difficulty was now being experienced Department to become so grievously under in connection with the re-building of one of the manned, and whether every precaution has now been taken to prevent the further construction of police stations, and the Director of Public

Works had been appealed to again and again unet of Chinese territory and administer it. to procure the necessary labour. As to the Perhaps that fact would strike the hon. mcinber faulty buildings. Rethe Memorandum signed by

Public Works Extraord mary," and laid before their execution upon the Department, did the darkness in which he now seemed in exist. The the Council on 22nd November, 1899, I may here hon. hember mean to suggest that the Governon. member had referred to expenditure, and he quote the three concluding paragraphs:-

ment should at once appoint a number of per- the Culonial Secretary) would like to know if "17.-When we consider that in 1894 a sum

manent officers to enable the Department to he had been able to find any mention in the of $94,420 was voted for this Department as

carry out those works? That was not the policy report for instance, of the large amount which compared with $91, 402 in the Estimates under

was possible in such works for the Director oftions. if the how, member would refer to the comsideration, we are still further convinced of that had been adopted. On the contrary, if it he represented had been spent on police sta the inadequacy of the present staff.”

Public Works and a reasonable staff to super report he would discover that the Colonial 18-Tha' this Department, with which the vise them, that would be done; then, when the Secretary's ideas as to the policing of the New tion, water-supply, and development generally itself with an officer or officers for whom much more reasonable lines that at present. are so inseparably bound up, should undergo it had no work. In the matter of supervision His views

were not accepted and the reduction at such a time, we consider a serious of buildings he had gone into that very close expenditure on account of the police had matter, and we earnestly urge upon tis. Excel- ly, and as to responsibility connected with therefore been very much increased. He lency to take immediate steps to put the Depart the lamentable collapse of houses in Coch failed to see where the hen, member could ment on a footing commensurate with its exten-rane Street, the Attorney General, he might find any ground for complaint in that ded duties."

state, was of the opinion the Public Works respect. So far as public works were concern. Department was not responsible. When they ed he never dealt with them in the slightest went into the question of supervision there degree. He regretted that the hon. member was nothing simpler or casier than to say that

in his criticism had shown he was really hot the Government must go over the buildings, moved by a desire to further the public in see there were proper bricks, proper timber, terests, but by a desire to attack the report. proper mortar and that the houses were pro. But notwithstanding the criticistas, the Colonial

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19.-We should suggest to His Exellency the desirability of appointing a Committee to investigate and report on the question of the staff of the Public Works Department,, and we

make this proposal because, as we have already stated, the policy hitherto has been to starve our public works, and we recognise the import-perly built. In other words was the Govern-Secretary still maintained that his much abused

ment to take the whole of the responsibility off

the shoulders of the architects and contractors How many men would be required if they were- going to do that? He had asked the opinion of a gentleman who probably knew more about building than any man in the Colony, the Senior Unofficial Me-ber, and he told him that a hundred, probably two hundred, man would

not be sufficient for the work if the Govern

The Hon. T. H. Whitehead said that since the last meeting of the Council he had gone carefully through the Hansard, and. looked up all that took place when the question was last before the Council. Since then, he had consulted the Senior Un. official Member and one or two others, and ance of providing a staff sufficient to carry on he had every reason to believe the Unofficial the large works now impending." Members were unanimous in favour of His Ex-I would also refer to the concluding paragraph cellency again urging upon the Secretary of of my own Memorandum laid on the Council State for the Colonies the expediency, upon table on gath November, 1899'- public grounds for the benefit of the public and "It is useless to plead the insufficiency of the of the public service that the increase of salaries staff of the Public Works Departmentasi reason to:ubordinate officers should come into force for not proceeding with any urgent work or as from the first of January this year. The works, Extraordinary works should be provided great increase in the cost of living and the im-for by the provision of additional strength. Ar mense rise in the price of the necessaries of present, with much pressing work on hand, the ment was to take upon itself the responsibility of seeing that every brick was put in all right, life must have been felt more severely by sub staff is being apparently reduced. It is certainly ordinate officials than by those drawing higher much less strong then it was ten years ago when and that every house was properly built and was quite safe. Those were responsibities not salaries. He heartily concurred with the Hon the population was much less and the area of taken by any one than in the world. He was the Colonial Secretary, who had just spoken of the Colony twenty-nine square miles instead of extremely anxious about the question, and the the desirability of urging, with all His Excel four hundred and twenty-nine square miles.” lency's force, upon the Secretary of State the On 4th October, 1899, pursuant to notice, 1 Commission that was shortly to sit would con

sider the whole question of the sufficiency or necessity of granting the increase from the 1st asked the Honourable the Director of Public otherwise of the staff of the Public Works of January this year.

Works (Mr. Ormsby) the following question :--- "Has the attention of the Honourable the Department, and if it reported that the staff was China falls leading articles of t sth and 23rd in granting the funds necessary to augment it. Director of Public Works been directed to the insufficient, the Council would have pleasure August alleging the existence of jerry-buildings Did the hon member, he asked, wish for the

motion to be pot? in Hongkong; will the Honourable Member in- form the Council whether the said allegation is well fouuded; and if so, will he state what powers his Department possesses to prevent the erection of such buildings; what action has been taken by his Department in the matter; and if his powers are insufficient, is he taking any ateps to get increased powers ?

The Hon. T. H. Whitehead-No, sir, I am satisfied.

Hon. T. H. Whitehead moved that this vote

report still remained true, and he challenged the hon. member to criticise it in a spirit which did not attack it for purposes of fault finding and show him in what respects he had been ex roneous. He still maintained that under British rule the territory would thrive and prosper, and that the money they had expended, and which

the hou. member seemed to gradge, would be'

money well spent, and would be returned to them four-fold (Applaure). {*

H.E.. the Governor said that in this matter

the hon. member had a perfect right to say the expenditure was large. The reason it had been large was that up till the present there had been no revenue derivable from the New Ter ritory; it was entirely a question of laying out. One important source of revenue in the New Territory would be the land tax, and the Land Court had been established for the purpose of when the tax could be levied. But the task, settling ownerships and thus hastening the time

H.E. the Governor said that as far as he was the recommendations of the Committee. But concerned in the matter he heartily endorsed

was a very difficult one, because there were so, he could not quite understand the answer from

many different chims to hear-clan claims, the Secretary of State; the Imperial Government possibly wished to see what the finances of the

family claims, Individual claims, all kinds of claims. Until the man to whom the land Colony were like. However, if it was desired that he should again bring the matter before the

Colonial Secretary's Department. belonged was found, the Government, much as it desired and was entitled to revenue, could Secretary of State for the Colonies, he would

not say "We want so much on this land." do so with the greatest pleasure. He asked

be reduced by $rco. He said With reference the Senior Unofficial Member if all the Un

to the statement of Revenue and Expenditure. There was only one way of dealing with a man, official Members were agreed that the increase

from June, 1898, to June, 1901, in the New and that was in a just way, (Applause) Much should be from the 1st of January this year.

The reply was as follows:- I have read the Territory, it appears that the total revenue for money had been spent on the New Terrie Hon. C. P. Chater-Sir, I may state that the articles referred to and think there is found those two years amounted to $41,014-33 and tory.

There had been the cost of the Unofficial Members are unanimously of opinion tion for the allegations. The powers possessed that the total expenditure in the same period road to Taipoo, and that of the establish by my Department are defined in the Ordin-aggregated no less than 5736.571.34 In his ment of police stations, which were absolutely 1st of January this year, instead of Januances 15, of 1889, and 25 of 1891., An officer report to the Colonial Office dated 8th October, indispensable if the lives and property of

H.E. the Governor-Very well, I shall take of the Department, assisted by an overseer, 1898, the Honourable the Colonial Secretary, inspects building works in progress. The under the head of Revenue, wrote:-"However steps accordingly. (Applause.).

exceptional amount of such work in the until further experience has shown in what The Acting Attorney-General moved the Colony stupresent makes an increase in the manner revenue can be best mised without second reading of a Bill entitled An Ordinance staff necessary if this work of supervision Is to exciting the auspicion and prejudices of the for promoting the Revision of the Statute Law he thoroughly performed. The matter is en inhabitants, it would be well to interfere as by repealing Enactments which have ceased to gaging the attention of the Government." In little as possible with the present system and be in force or have become annecessary and by allowing the erection of the extra storey on 32 sources of taxation. If this he done, it is anti- and 34, Cochrane. Street the Government cipated that there will be no difficulty in raising

that the increase, should take place from the

1902.

STATUTE LAW.

people in the New Territory were to be pro- tected. Then again, the Government had been obliged to spend a large amount of money on faunches to prevent piracy round the two bun dred miles of coast, and a Inrge staff had had to be engaged for the purpose of demarcating. property and so facilitating the settlement of questions of ownership of land. In view of all this, was there anything else the hon. member

LISBON, OPORTO, LONDON, LIVERPOOL, GLASGOW, TRIESTE, GENOA, PORTS IN THE making Amendments in various Ordinances, appears to have neglected its duty to provide at the start an annual revenue syfficient to meet could suggest the Govenment should have The Colonial Secretary seconded the motion for the public safety,, though the Unofficial the cost of administering the New Territory, done to obtain revenue ? if the hon.-member

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The Acting Attorney-General moved the second reading of a Bilebilled An Ordinance to further amend the Law relating to Buildings

The Colonial Secretary seconded the motion,

which was agreed to..

The Council then went into Committee, but alterations having been made the third reading

was not moved. 69

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Members gave warning of the reduced and insuficient staff of the Fublic Worki Depart ment when the Estimates for 1000 were before the Council in November, 1899

The Colonial Secretary, in replying, said he bad listened to the remarks of the hon. member from which one would have gathered that the Government had taken to action in the matter. The hon. member had carefully concealed the fact of which he informed him at the last meeting of the Council-that His Excellency had appointed a Commission to enquire into the working of the Public Works Department It was certainly rather extra

The expenditure is estimated at $125,000. To would consider for a short time, he would sne cover this outlay taxation to the amount of that in taking over the Now Territory it was dollar or 29. 6d. per head of the population absolutely necessary to expend money without will be sufficient," and added that when British any immediate prospects of remuneration. But rule was established, revenue would be greatly any expenditure that brought the Chinese increased. Paragraph 23 of the Secretary of under British rule was not wasted expenditure, State's despatch of 6th June, 1999, reads for by coming under our flag they would be "It will be seen from p 13 of Mr Lockhart's treated with, justice and consideration, as be--- report that the total revenue from taxation of tween man and man. (Applause) the New Territory is estimated at about £16,000, and this may be regarded as the in- come which you will have at your disposal for the first year or two at any rate. It should amply suffice to defray the initial cost of a sim

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Hon. T. H. Whitehead--It seems to me very strange that it could have been estimated that it would be possible to collect a revenue, of $160,000 a year, while in these two years it has only been found possible to collect $40,000,

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