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same afternoon that Wohang came to me, and found that to Mrs Caldwell, Mrs Caldwell would answer her, this is she was in Canton, I did not communicate with the Government or Police about it. All I can say. She never came as a friend to the house.
I am quite ignorant of the circumstances relative to the capture for attempt at breach of the blockade of the Canton River, of the boat to which the pass was granted mentioned by the Attorney General, in page 73. I have given many of such passes that it is impossible for me to tell about this particular one.
I did not consider it necessary to cross-examine Mr May upon his statement regarding my telling him about my wife receiving presents, because I considered the inference drawn from the words spoken by me was so absurd that I did not think it necessary.
I did not know Po-pak-shing as a notorious pirate at the time I went on board his boat. I most solemnly declare I never heard of his name up till that time.
I only know that the Sinon Wo ground lot is in the Lower Bazaar, because it is marine lot 33. I suppose that Sinon Wo is the lessee's name. I know Ma-chow Wong is the owner. I know he used to have the management. When this Sunon man (referred to in page 59) came and asked me about the increased rental of the lot, I knew that Ma-chow Wong had been connected with the Sinon Wo. I am sure that the land, so far as I have heard, did not belong to Ma-chow Wong. From what I have heard, Ma-chow Wong was only head of some committee of management; there were others connected with it.
Mr May's statement of the misunderstandings between us is correct. We have had no others. I do not consider Ma-chow Wong's conviction chiefly owing to the exertions of Mr May, but to the public mind and that of the jury being prejudiced against him by the local papers. Mr May did not, to my knowledge, apply for my reinstatement in Government employ.
I did consider, and I am now more fully confident, that Mr May had a vindictive feeling towards me at the time of the conducting of the case of Ma-chow Wong, but I have particular reasons for not wishing to give my grounds for such belief on this occasion. As I have already stated in my evidence of to-day, these reasons may form the subject of future complaints by me; but of this fact I am certain, that nothing would give Mr May more pleasure than to see the situation of Registrar General become vacant for him by my dismissal.
Adjourned till Friday, the 16th, at 12 o'clock.
TWENTY FOURTH Day,
Friday, 16th July, at 12 o'clock Noon.
Present,-All the Members.
Hon. H. T. DAVIES,-Recalled at his own request to explain a part of his previous evidence.
Mr Caldwell is no doubt correct in stating that he did the sureties for Ma-chow Wong; but when I procured said that I should require them, and that I would take their recognizances as soon as their validity had been ascertained, Mr Caldwell said "they are here now,” and pointed out some men. I asked him whether he guaranteed their validity, and upon his saying that he did, I took them at once.
D. R. CALDWELL,-Cross-examination continued.
I deny that any intercourse whatever has been kept up between any member of my family and Shaplok. She has been many times to my house to see me on business of different kinds, and as a matter of course she has also seen Mrs Caldwell and spoken to her. I wish to state, that, when I married Mrs Caldwell when she was converted, I threw off all Chinese connections. Shaplok came to me only on business matters officially.
I do most decidedly deny the existence of any family connection in any sense whatever, whether by blood, usage, or adoption, between myself and Ma-chow Wong. Ma-chow Wong is an inferior man, not an equal, and I consider this attempt to connect me with Ma-chow Wong nothing better than a villainous attempt to injure my reputation.
After the time of his apprehension and trial, I believed Ma-chow Wong to be an honest man, and I believe now that he always was an honest man up to his apprehension.
Pang Wa-ping paid to the paymaster of the Rattler about $200 salvage for rescuing his boat, for which the Paymaster gave a receipt, I witnessing it.
I saw a Chinese document belonging to Beaver after his apprehension at the Police Station. It was a kind of certificate from Chai Awei the pirate Chief, but who styled himself a Rebel, made showing that Beaver had been in his employ, and mention was there made of a man Wong Kee with another as having come from Kongnam (Keangnan), I believe, to carry out the Rebel movements.
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I do not know the man who accompanied Pang Wo-ping. I could make inquiry concerning him, but I am quite certain that they were both there, and that I saw the basket with the lid to it.
With regard to the search of Assow's house, the anonymous letter was my only information that a musical box was stolen. I also knew that a man was in custody for stealing a barometer, which was referred to in the letter.
I searched the house opposite Pat-mui's. Assow had interpreted here, and at my request, before I searched the house.
Lai Szekai still collects the rents for Mrs Caldwell's sister, under a lease which he has of the houses.
I accompanied Mr Grand-Pré in searching the boats in one of which Po-pak-shing was seized; he was there on the spot, and was cognizant of the particulars himself. I was merely sent for to assist.
I was present with Mr Anstey, Mr Cluff, Mr May, Mr Strachan, and several others at the Debtor's Gaol yard, on the afternoon of the day on which Mr May apprehended all the men on Bonham Strand.
I never saw the men-either before deportation, when on their way to the ship, or when on board.
I know nothing about what Boggs says of the payment of black-mail by the pirates to Ma-chow Wong.
I have given Assow to interpret at Ma-chow Wong's trial. I don't think I have given him one since Ma-chow Wong's trial. I consider honesty as necessary for Interpreter.