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about Shaplok the same afternoon that Wohang came to Mrs Caldwell would answer her, that is all I can say. She me, and found that she was in Canton. I did not communi- never came as a friend to the house. cate with the Government or Police about it.
It is impos- sible for me to say whether Ch'o On would or would not pay $400 to Shaplok without he thought she had some one to back her He has been fifteen years in Government service, and I should think that he would not be so stupid as to pay any money at all.
up.
I am quite ignorant of the circumstances relative to the capture for attempt at breach of the blockade of the Cant.m River of the boat to which the pass was granted mention by the Attorney General, in page 73.
I have given many of such passes that it is impossible for me to teil abou this particular one.
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I did not consider it necessary to cross-examine Mri
I did not know Po-pak-shing as a notorious pirate at the May upon his statement regard my telling him about my time I went on board his boat,
I most solemnly declar wife receiving presents, because I considered the inference never heard of his name up till that time. drawn from the words spoken by me was so absurd, that I did not think it necessary.
I only know that the Sinon Wo groundlot is in the Lower Bazaar, because it is marine lot 33. I suppose that Sinen W.. is the lessee's name. I do not think that Ma-chow Wong i. the owner. I know he used to have the management. When this Sunon man (referred to in page 59) came and asked me about the increased rental of the lot, I knew that Ma-chow Wong had been connected with the Sinon Wo. I am sure that the land so far as I have heard did not belong to Ma-chow.. Wong. From what I have heard, Ma-chow Wong was col head of some committee of management; there were oth
Mr May's statement of the misunderstandings between us is correct. We have had no others. I do not consider Ma-chow Wong's conviction chiefly owing to the exertions of Mr May, but to the public mind and that of the jury being prejudiced against him by the local papers. Mr May did not to my knowledge apply for my reinstatement in Government employ. I did consider, and I am now more fully confident, that Mr May had a vindictive feeling towards me at the time of the conducting of the case of Machowconnected with it. Wong, but I have particular reasons for not wishing to give I do most decidedly deny the existence of fa y my grounds for such belief on this occasion. As I have connection in any sense whatever, whether by blood, age, already stated in my evidence of to-day, these reasons may ortoption, between myself and Ma-chow Wong. Mech form the subject of future complaints by me; but of this
W Tong is an inferior man, not an equal, and I conside this fact I am certain that nothing would give Mr May more attempt to connect me with Ma-chow Wong nothing her pleasure than to see the situation of Registrar General thou a villaingns attempt to injure my reputasia. The become vacant for him by my dismissat
very fact of the woman Awoon (who was no wife of miret Adjourned till Friday, the 16th, at 12 o'clock.
being some years younger then Ma-chow Wong, maka Inglis's statement of less value, because it is entirely enoug to Chinese usage or custom for a young woman to alapta man older than herself as her son.
TWENTY FOURth Day,
Friday, 16th July, at 12 o'clock Noon.
Present,-All the Members.
Hon. H. T. DAVIES,-Recalled at his own request to explain a part of his previous evidence.
Mr Caldwell is no doubt correct in stating that he did not procure the sureties for Ma-chow Wong; but when I said that I should require them, and that I would take their re- cognizances as soon as their validity had been ascertained, Mr Caldwell said "they are here now," and pointed out some men. I asked him whether he guaranteed their vali- dity, and upon his saying that he did, I took them at once.
D. R. CALDWELL,-Cross-examination continued. I deny that any intercourse whatever has been kept up between any member of my family and Shaplok. She has been many time to my house to see me on business of diffe- rent kinds, and as a matter of course she has also seen Mrs Caldwell and spoken to her. I wish to state, that, when I married Mrs Caldwell when she was converted, I threw off all Chinese connections. Shaplok came to me only on business matters officially. I suppose if she spoke to Mrs Caldwell,
After the time of his apprehension and trial how Ma-chow Wong to be an honest man, and I bell- that he always was an honest man up to his apprehen
With regard to the case mentioned by Mr My in pora 39, in which Ma-chow Wong is charged with resist the Police, I refer the Commission to my letter to the Clerk of Councils dated 5th October, 1857. With regard to Mr May's statement in page 39, that a wealthy Chinana: Coup to him in secrecy and terror to complain of the manner in which petitions for Ma-chow Wong's pardon were goł up: the rich Chinaman I believe to be Tam Achoy, and at my letter of 5th October last I shew why I think he had hostäe feelings towards Ma-chow Wong. This I referred to a the time of Mr May's statement. The Commissioners must be mistaken in thinking that I said I would prove the petition in question related to another matter altogether.
Pang Wa-ping paid to the paymaster of the Rattler alea 200 salvage for rescuing his boat, for which the Tay- master gave a receipt, I witnessing it. I saw Chinese de- ment belonging to Beaver after his apprehension at the l'olice Station. It was a kind of certificate from Chu Akwei the Chief, but whe styled himself a Rebel, showing that
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had been in his employ, and mention was there Ma-chow Wong was closely connected with the Shanghae
Beaver
made
of
a
a man Wong Kee with another as having conie Rebels. I know that he went to Shanghae. I only know
om Kongnam (Keanguan), I believe, to carry out the Rebel that Alin, Mr Searth's informant, was not very friendly to movements. I wish to state that the Wong Kee mentioned Ma-chow Wong.
there was never intended for Ma-chow Wong. Both the The petition in the Pawnbgoker's matter was, as all peti- haracters were entirely different from his name, the Wong tions are, sent to me, I merely translated it, as I do all peti- ras different and the Kee also, and the fact of his being a tions, and sent it up to the Acting Colonial Secretary. I did Leangnan man made it the less likely, Ma-chow Wong not cover it by any special report.
Mr Wade may have gone by the eing a Sun-on man.
I do not know the man who accompanied Pang Wa-ping. sound, not knowing perhaps the characters of Ma-chow I could make inquiry concerning him, but I am quite certain Wong's name.
This was a red paper folded, I think that they were both there, and that I saw the basket with four times similar to the paper on which petitions are
the lid to it. With regard to the search of Assow's house, ritten, but without the Blue back to it. On casting my eyes!
the
anonymous letter was my only information that a musi- over the document, this name Wong Kce made no impression cal box was stolen. I also knew that a man was in custody me at all, whereas had it been in the characters of Ma-for stealing a barometer, which was referred to in the letter. show Wong's name I should certainly have been attracted Mrs Caldwell did not detain the messenger, and I took no them. This was the only paper produced as found on steps to ascertain its author before acting upon it as it was Beaver which I saw.
impossible to do so. I merely asked who brought it and I was told it was a boy. I do not now know the author. I considered that, as a Justice of the Peace, and particularly
The Master of the Masonic Lodge is elected. My pre- ecessors have been gentlemen of unblemished character.
While the lorcha Kee-loong-poo-on was in my name, I as Registrar General, I had authority to search the house. mployed her with European masters-Johnson and Ban-I am permitted as Registrar General to enter any house where there are Chinese residing-not on the suspicion
roft were the two-I let her out on charter.
Lai Szekai still collects the rents for Mrs Caldwell's sister, generated in my mind by an anonymous letter only; but in this case there was the additional fact of a prisoner being in
nder a lease which he has of the houses.
custody for stealing a barometer, which was also referred to in the letter. It does not strike me that I acted even in a spot,
I accompanied Mr Grand-Pré in searching the boats in one which Po-pak-shing was he was there on the
ad was cognizant of the particulars himself. I was merely high-handed manner. I do not think that I have subjected
Had
nt for to assist. I did not in way direct Mr Grand-Pré. | myself to any legal proceedings for what I have done. acted as an Interpreter, and explained all the matters to
I found a musical box in one of the houses which I searched, Ir Grand-Pre, and examined the Registers and papers of the
bats.
I cannot say whether it was in answer to a question from yself, then sitting on the bench, that Mr Grand-Pré gave be answer which convinced the Magistrate as to the men's nocence. I found the Register and papers in order. I ink the boat had a Chinese pass from the head of the arine department at Canton.
I was present with Mr Anstey, Mr Cluff, Mr May, Mr rachan, and several others at the Debtor's Gaol-yard, on afternoon of the day on which Mr May apprehended
I should have taken it to the Police to find the owner of it, and then charged the party in whose possession it was found. I have not since then made any further search about it—and have made no further inquiry as to whether a musical box has been stolen. I had heard that the prisoner who had stolen the harometer had been seized and the barometer given up. I searched the house opposite Pat-mui's.
Assow had interpreted here, and at my request, before I searched the house. I had known he was going to give evidence here before I searched the house. Considering that Assow was acting as Interpreter and about to give evid-
Police Constable with me, but knowing the rapidity with which all information flies from the Police Court and the
the men on Bonham Strand. I was also up at the tread-uce here, I think that I should have done better had I taken
yard on another occasion with Mr Eluff the morning I apprehended some 160 men, and on both these oc- on for the purpose of ascertaining who the people were. Police Station by the emissaries of the Interpreters and the now nothing more about the deportation. I never saw Lokangs, I considered that I was only faithfully performing meneither before deportation, when on their way to they public duty in hastening to the house to search for the
or when on board.
artiele. I did not mean to say that I thought it not prudent
know nothing about what Boggs says of the payment of mail by the pirates to Ma-chow Wong. I do not think ely that
pirates could have done so, because on; occasions their fleets were attacked by our men- On my information received from Ma-chow Wong.. to refer the Commission to mention made about letter of 5th October, 1857. I never heard that
to search Assow's house. I meant that I thought it useless, as the information would have got there before me. I don't recollect whether I wished Assow to interpret at Ma-chow Wong's trial. I have given him a certificate as Chinese and Malay Interpreter. I don't think I have given him one since Ma-chow Wong's trial. I consider honesty as neces- sary for Interpreter. I considered him dishonest before his
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