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to collect the rents. I went to Lum Ateen, who said that he had bought the houses. I told him that I had spent a good deal of money in repairing them, and that there were some rents unpaid, and I asked him to let them to me, I being responsible for the repairs. Lum Ateen said that I might have the seven houses at the same rate as before, $30-to which I agreed. The other house was agreed for the same day, for $25. My previous knowledge of Lum Ateen extended only to knowing him by sight. The house spoken of as being intended for a hospital has not been used as such; it is now a family house. I do not know how Lum Ateen got the money for the houses, and do not know anything of his pecuniary affairs-nor anything about his going to Macao.
TOMAS BERNARDO RIBEIRO.-Called and examined. I live in Hollyowod Road, house No. 300; have been there. since January 1857. I took the house of Mr Caldwell's comprador, who told me that the house was Mr Caldwell's. I am keeper of a licensed boarding house; I pay the rent to the comprador, whom I last saw this morning. He came to my house about half-past 7 this morning of his own accord, and said, "If any gentleman comes asking you dont tell that this house belongs to Mr Caldwell. Say that it belongs to Mrs Caldwell, or a relation."
[Mr Caldwell admits that he receives the rent of the house, but denies the ownership. He also admits that he is the reputed owner, or in other words, that people suppose him to be the owner.]
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im that the policeman had asked me who the owner of the house was, and that I told policeman the comprador had told me the house belonged to Mr Caldwell. The comprador did not tell me that if any one asked who the owner of the house was I was not to say Mr Caldwell. This conver sation was in Manila language.
CHUN SAMCHUN,-Called and examined.
I am a broker, and reside in house No. 331; the number of the ground lot I don't know. I have lived there ten days, and took the house from a person called Lum Ateen or rather his collector of the same surname who lives at the Cho Sow Tong. I know Mr Caldwell, but have not seen him at my residence. I do not know about Mr Cald- well having any interest in the house.
CHOU AH-CHEE,-Recalled.
I have brought my rent book. [Book examined, and found to contain entries beginning 20th December last, of $16 rent, paid to and acknowledged by Yee Wo.] Afook is the master of the Yee Wo shop.
FONG WEIKAI,-Occupant of inland lot 250, and house 411,-Called and examined.
I have occupied the house a few days, and took it from Yee Wo.
'WONG AOON,-Called and examined.
I have occupied my present house (the same house as lagr witness) two months. I took it from Yee Wo. I do not know who the owner of the house is.
HO ACHOONG,--Called and examined.
No part of the house in which I live is used as a brothel. There is no brothel on the side of the street in which I live; there is one over the way. The comprador once said that unless I could pay every month I should be turned out. One time he took me down to Mr Caldwell's office.
I have lived in the same house as last witness since the I said to Mr Caldwell, "Excuse me this time, as soon as
15th January last. I took it from Yee Wo Fook, to whom my boarders get ships I will pay." Mr Caldwell said, "I
pay the rent. I do not know to whom he pays it, nor have nothing to do with it; you had better speak to the who the owner of the house is. comprador." The comprador said, that I must pay or seek another house. On the 20th of this month I shall owe one month's rent; all the rest has been paid.
JOHN LYONS.-Recalled.
I have looked at the plan of houses in this colony, and
find that house 300 is on fot 204. There are other 5 houses
on the same lot, none of which are to my knowledge brothels. The other houses in this lot are numbered 301, 299, 249, 250, 248. Laurenço Pablo lives in a house 248 Lascar Upper Row, No. of license 22.
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LAURENCO PABLO.-Called and examined.
I live in Lascar Upper Row, behind the house of Ribeiro. I keep a Boarding House, and have lived there sixteen months. I took the house of Mr Caldwell's comprador-Lai Sze-kai, who told me that Mr Caldwell was the owner, I pay the rent to the comprador, and last saw him at half-past 7 this morning, at which time he came to my house voluntarily, He asked me what the policeman had said to me, and I told
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LEONG CHEWKWONG,-(Lot 204, house 301, Holly- wood Road,)-Called and examined.
I have occupied this house since the 24th December last,
took it from Lai Sze-kai, master of the Tai Cheong shop. I
pay the rent to him. He says that he collects the rent for relation. He has never used Mr. Caldwell's name in con- ection with it.
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CH'UN KUNHEE,-(Lot 204, house 299,)---Called and examined.
I have lived in his house two years. I rented it from Lai Sze-kai of the Tai Cheong shop. I never paid any rent to Mr Caldwell.
[The Commissioners at the request of Mr May proceeded to examine two witnesses on reference to charge "4 in the second branch of the inquiry. Their evidence will he found printed with the rest of the evidence on the same charge.]
Adjourned to 1 P., on the 3d.
FIFTH DAY,
Thursday, 3d June, 1858. Present,-All the Members,
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pied as family houses, and pone of them as brothels or by Ipose women. The houses belonged to Mr Caldwell at the
end of 1856.
I have never"
I have collected rents for Mr Caldwell for 11 houses besides. They are not sold I know of my own knowledge GEORGE COOPER TURNER,-Called and examined. I am a Solicitor in this colony. In December last I was, that these houses belonged to a sister of Mrs Caldwell, whose I do not know Chun Atsoo; I know and still am, Solicitor to the Attorney General. Upon refer- name I do not know. ence to document (M) I can state that, on the 3d January, they are the property of Mrs Caldwell's sister, because Mrs 1857, I, as Solicitor for the Attorney General, obtained a Caldwell told me so, and at one time offered to let them to Mrs Caldwell managed the affairs of this property. transfer into his name in the land office, of lots 475, 476, me. 477, 478, 480, 483, 484, 485, and 507. These lots had been The rents of these 11 houses are paid to Mrs Caldwell, and purchased by him from Mr Caldwell. Mr Anstey was very have always been since I collected them. desirous in the latter end of December last, of selling these collected rent on any other lots for Mrs Caldwell. In the lots, and I applied to Mr Caldwell to point out where, lots month of February last, I spoke to Mr Caldwell concerning I think at that time Mr Caldwell said, that he had a the payment of ground rent on Lum Ateen's property. friend who was very anxious to buy one of these lots. When Lum Ateen was going home he told me to pay the replied, that I did not think it likely that the Attorney Gene-ground rents for him; I said, that I did not know what ral would sell any one particular lot, as he wanted to get amount. I had to pay; Lum Ateen told me, I might go rid of the whole together. I made some enquiry as to the to my old master-Mr Caldwell-about it. I went to Mr lot Mr Caldwell's friend wished to buy, and called on him Caldwell in the month of February, and asked him to Mr a note for me to go and pay ground rents. afterwards to tell him, that the Attorney General would not write sell any one lot; the purchaser, if he bought, must take the Caldwell told me that he himself was going to pay ground I him a $50 note. About two days afterwards whole. The lot Mr Caldwell wished to buy was one near rents, the Kulan obelisk; the others are in the neighbourhood | Mr Caldwell said it was not enough, and that I must give Mr Caldwell said, that he of East Point. The whole were afterwards sold to Mr him $2 and some cents more.
would wait till Lum Ateen's return, and hand the receipts over Strachan.
to him. He told me that the receipts were at the office; he would get them by and by. I know a Boarding House keeper in Hollywood Road called Tomas. I let him the house in which he lives. I saw him yesterday morning. I said to him, and all the Chinese tenants, "Don't be afraid; if
Cross-examined,—Mr Caldwel did not, at the time of the conversation with him, mention the name of the friend; nor do I know for whom the lot was wanted.
LAI SZE KAI,--Called and examined.
gave
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I was Comprador to Mr Caldwell. I ceased to be Com-any inquiry be made, you may say that the houses belong prader from the time Mr Caldwell ceased to be master of to my mistress [Mrs Caldwell]." The previous evening I The Chinese tenants were afraid the Eaglet, about two years ago. Since then I bave been went to collect the rents. partner with Low Ateem in a shop, and now myself keep a I was not going to let the houses to them. One of the shop which is in Stanley Street. When I was Comprador to tenants came to me next morning, and so I went to all. Mr Caldwell I went with the steamer; I also collected rents. I have had no conversation with Mr Caldwell as to the of four houses, but I do not know the numbers of the ground evidence that had been given before this Commission. lots on which they stand. [The lot referred to is 197.] one told me to go to these tenants. They said some con- The present occupants are Lee Koon-tai, Ngow Poo, Chew stables had been making inquiry as to the names and occupa- Angee, Ch'o Ngu, Akwun, who keeps a Chair shop, and tions of the tenants, and that this was their reason for Yew Aon-there are eight tenants altogether. I received being frightened. rents for Mr Caldwell until I went on board the steamer as Comprador, after which I believe Mr Caldwell's cook was collector. After I left the steamer I again collected rents for Mr Caldwell, and continued to do so up to the middle of in Gaol about the 4th moon of last year, about a debt of my December last, when the houses were sold to Lum Ateen, partner. I was 6 or 7 days in Gaol. I have never been in After that time I collected them for Lum Ateen as some of Gaol on a criminal charge. I do not know Chew Alai-nor them still owed rent.
I delivered to Mr Caldwell the have I heard the name; neither do I know Chun Atsoo. I rents as I collected them. When I was collector, for Mr had an interview with Mrs Caldwell's sister at Macao, about 4 Caldwell, the rents amounted to about $49 a month. They years ago; I do not know her name. I do not know if she has
Cross-examined,-The amount of rent due upon the four houses when they were transferred to Lum Ateen in Decem- ber, was about $70; there is none of this due now. I was
are now let by Lum Ateen to me for $50, and I sublet them a sister living in Hongkong. Six of the eleven houses are near
for $57. None of the houses are brothels, nor are any of them inhabited by loose women. During the whole time that I have received the rents they have been all oceu-
the Joss-house in Hollywood Road, and the other are in Queen's Road West. It was after I left the steamer in July, 1856, that Mrs Caldwell offered to let me the houses. I have known Lum
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