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BATHING FACILITIES AND CHILDREN'S
PLAYGROUNDS.
DISCUSSION IN THE LEGISLATIVE COUNCIL.
CONFLICT OF OPINION BETWEEN SIR HENRY POLLOCK AND THE D.P.W.
THE GOVERNMENT'S ATTITUDE.
: At the next meeting of the Legislative Council Sir Henry Pollock will be acting as Attorney-General. The debate initiated by him in the Council Chamber yesterday, therefore, may be regarded as his swan song before he takes his place in the official ranks. It concerned, the unsatisfactory replies by Government, to his quzs. tions on public bathing facilities and playgrounds. From now "think" that onwards, until the end of the yetir, Sir Henry may. the Guvernment replica to questions are unsatisfactory, but he will not be permitted to say so, Yesterday was the last opportu nity for free speech, and it will be generally conceded by those" who read the discussion that the Hon. Member representing the Justices of the Peace took full advantage of the occasion,"
During the course of the debate Sir Henry Follock was pleased to describe as absurd the contention put forward in the Daily Press that the question of public expenditure on the provision of bathing facilities was very largely concerned with the question of transport. We would maggest on our part that this statement of opinion is proof that Sir Henry had not considered the problem in its broad aspect. A few cubicles here or there is a matter of small importance, but the principle "is sound that large public expen diture should not be incurred in providing bathing facilities in those places which can only be reached by the comparatively few individuals who can afford to pay dollar or more on the journey to and from them,
Last year a sum of 87,300, in addition to maintenance and supervision charges, was spent by the Government at the Repulse Bay beach. This was nearly half the total expenditure by the Government on bathing facilities in the Colony About 68,000 people used the accommodation at North Point, Kennedy Town and Taiwan. Apart from the owners of private matsheds 2,000 went to, Repulse Bay. These figures illustrate our point.
The debate showed a direct conflict of opinion between Sir Heary and the Director of Public Works on the question of the space available for cubicles, at Repulse and Stanley Bays. Sir Henry said there was plenty of room for them and the. Director of Public Works said there was not. HE, the Governor will have plans submitted to him so that he may judge for himself. The Government's attitude was very sympathetic and if there is room for more public cubieles they will be built.
Sir Henry Pollock caused some amusement by explaining that what he meant by a pavilion was a humble matshed where bathers might rest and have a picnic. The word appeals to us and in our next letters home we shall refer to our bathing pavilion at Re- palac Bay. It will create a favourable impression in the family circle.
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The problem of finding a suitable area in Kowloon for a child- ren's playground has been referred to the Public Works Depart ment with a request that they will report upon any sites which may be acquired either by purchase or exchange. This report will in due course be placed before the Finance Committee.
As will be seen, therefore, the discussion served a useful purpose. The only member of the public present to listen to the speeches was Mr. W. J. Stokes of the Kowloon Residents' Association.
SIR HENRY POLLOCK. Hon Sir Henry Pollock: Sir, pursuant to notice 1 beg to move the motion
"That the answers given in this Council on the 19th April to my question 4 and 7 are unsatisfac- tory."
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cannot be You want transport to get you there and you'want necom. modation when you get there.
With regard, Sir, to the question of transport, the Hong Kong Hotel Company in the summer, and espe cially on Saturdays, Sundays and holidays, run bathing buses at com paratively frequent intervals, and I imagine there would not be very much dificulty if there was a public demand for the purpose about the Hotel Company making reservations in certain buses beforehand. That cannot be difficult, because to my knowledge there are a number, öf seats being reserved in the buses in connection with the ceremony Your Excellency is going to 'perform in laying the foundation stone of St. Stephen's College at Stanley Hay. Therefore, Sir, transport ac commodation is available, but it is no good having transport down to the bathing beaches unless you have either a private matshed or there are bathing cubicles to go into. I do hope that the Government will, in dealing with this question of bathing cubicle accommodation at Repulse Bay, pay heed to the recom- mendations of the Committee who dealt with this matter less than two years ago,
Pavilius,
I have also suggested in ¦ my question that (besiiles, the bathing cubicles) pavilion accommodation should be put up. I am afraid, Şir. that the word **pavilion which I used has turned out to be rather
foolish term, because some people seem afraid, from what I can gather. that I advocated the erection of a stately pleasure dome with n kiosk, and possibly bandstand.“ Ionic columns and so forth. Instead of pavilion I ought to have used the word matshed. I intended no thing more serious than a matshed in which people could sit out either before or after bathing with their **children and stop there in comfort for sometime, because, Sir, it is absurd to suppose that members of the public should go out to Repulse Ray either on a Saturday afternoon, or Sunday, and simply want to dash out there and, after a bathe, to dash back. They do want, I submit, in all the circumstances to have a place in which they can sit down; and have a kind of al fresco picnic. This is, I think, a necesKLIY concomitant to public bathing ac- commodation at Repulse Bay. In fact, I notice in their report, the Bathing Beaches Committee speak of Repulse Bay as one of the beaches which is used partly for: bathing and partly for pienica and there can be no doubt that this is the way in which people who own private matsheds use the beach. They do not simply dash into the water and dash out and come away, but they stop there for some hours and have a rest. The public ought to have the same convenience.
Stanley Bay.
Now Sir, passing on to the second part of my question No. 4 I asked Whether the Government would put up bathing cubicles for the se of the public at the Bay near Stanley where private matsheds have already been erected. The an Sir, from paragraph (e) of section "wer to that part of my question
1 of their report:-
was as follows:-
**The beach at Stanley has been fully allocated; two or three ad- ditional sheds might be erected on the high ground above the beach but this site is not considered suitable."
is un
Well, Sir that -answer satisfactory because it does not fit in with the recommendation of the Bathing Benches Committee.. That Committee stated:-
"There are at present five mat- sheds at Stanley. It is considered there is room for 22 It is recom- mended licenses should be grant- ed up to this number. With re gard to public bathing accom- modation, they recommended that bathing cubicics should be provid ed Crown land nearby for eight persons of each sex, the number to be increased, if neces sary, there being ample space for expansion."
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or three
"The facilities for bathing for persons not having the use of matabeds are at present confined to a low small canvas tents be longing to the Repulse Bay Hotel for the use of which a charge of Bu cents is made. They are in- sufficient, in number for the pur My question 4 is divided into two
pose they are meant to serve. We branches, one of which refers to recommend that facilities be pro- vided by the erection of two Repulse Bay and the other
matsheds, one for men and the Stanley Bay. My question with other loc, women and childreń, divided each into 16 cubicles, at reference to Repulse Bay was whe-
spota on which the Committee ther the Government, would put up
have agreed and, which are known and additional bathing cubicles
to the representative of the Public Works Department on the pavilion accommodation for the use
Committee, Mr. Carpenter. "If of the public at Repulse Bay. To
this accommodation proves in- that the Colonial Secretary replied sufficient it should be extended.” that at present. 15 cubicles, 10
From that recommendation of feet by 6 feet, are being erected, the Bathing Beaches Committee with fresh water showers, water it will be gathered that the Committee, after fully consider-
Now, Sir, you will notice these standpipes, etc., 10 being for mening the question, came to the words there being ample space 1 lay and 5 for women. No provision is conclusion that they ought to put available for expansion.'
some emphasis upon them because being made for a pavilion." I at Repulse Bay, for the accom
modation of the public, two mat in the Government answer we tre submit, Sir, pausing there, that that sheds, each of them divided into 18 told that the beach has been fully answer to my question with regard cubicles, or in all 32 cubicles. Now, allocated, but that two
additional sheds might be erected to bathing accommodation at Re-Sir, compare that with the answer
on the higher ground above the to my question. The answer to my beach. Obviously, Bir, there is pulse Bay is eminently unsatis question is that at, present 15 factory, because so far from the cubicles are being erected at Re-complete discrepancy between the
Government answer and the recom Government putting up anything in pulse Bay, 10 for men and 6 for mendations of the Bathing Beaches Women In other words, the pro the way of additional public bathing posed accommodation to be put up Committee who went out there and accommodation in the shape of for the public at Repulse Bay this examined Stanley Bay on the spot. With regard to the "question of cubicles for Repulso" Bay they are summer is just under one-half of proposing very much to curtail the that recommended by this Com transport accommodation for the mittee, who took & great deal of public to Stanley Bay, I was very much interested when I went out bathing accommodation which was trouble in going into the whole of there the other day in connection recommended less than two years this bathing quesion less than two with 8. Stephen's College site to go by the Bathing Beaches Com-years ago. I submit, Sir, that is find, as I was approaching the
very unsatisfactory indeed:
winding path that leads down to mittee in Sessional Paper No. 12 of
Transport.
the beach, a very big motor bus 1026, their report being dated 17th
of the Aberdeen Motor Bus Com I have read somewhere that the pany, I found that a number of" July, 1926.
question of-public bathing accom enterprising Service men had char- modation is a question of transport, tered this Aberdeen motor bus and but of course, Sir, that cannot be were going down to this beach. On that Bathing, Benches Como, because you cannot expect There can be no doubt, Sir, if there mittee, the late Dr. Addison was people to arrive out at Repulse Bay was public bathing accommodation Chairman, and the other members in either a motor, car or one of at Stanley that it would be made
the Hong Kong Hotel buses and use of very fully were Sir Shou-son Chow, Mr. D. W undress in the sight of everyone With regard to pavilion or Tratman, Dr. A. G. M. Severn, Mr. clee on the beach. It is a very matahed shelter at Stanley the same E. W. Carpenter and myself. With crowded beach. It is not, Sir, a observations apply as I have used place where you can hide away in with regard to Repulse Bay. After regard to the accommodation to be a corner from the sight of your a bathe it is very desirable to have granted to the public at Repulse fellow creatures, and it is, there a place to sit down in and have Bay in the way of bathing cubicles fore absurd, I submit, to say that a reat and a picnic. I think that the question of whether public bath in all I need say with regard to the Committee made the following ing accommodation should be pro- my question No. 4 recommendation. I am quoting now, vided is a question of transport. It (Continued on Page 8.)
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