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HONGKONG SANITARY

BOARD.

ANSWERS TO DR KOCH'S QUESTIONS,

WATER SUPPLY AND THE PRE-

VALENCE OF TYPHOID,

The fortnightly meeting of the Sanitary Board was held yesterday afternoon, the President of the Board, Mr. N. L. Smith, presiding. There were also present: The Hon. Mr. C. G. Alabaster: K. C., Mr. S. W. Tso, Mr., Wong Kwong-tin, Mr. W. V. A.. Koch, Dr. Ozurio, the Medical, Oficer of Health (Mr. W. W, Pearse) and the Secretary (Mr. U. s. Kennedy, Skipton),

THE SUPPLY OF ANTI-RABIC **

EMULSION.

THE HONGKONG DAILY PRESS, WEDNESDAY, SEPTEMBER 24TH, 1924

The CHAIRMAN called on the Medical Oficer of Health to reply.

CORRESPONDENCE. GREEŃ ISLAND CEMENT.

[TO THE EDITOR OF THE ** HONGKONG

DAILY PRESS."}

RENT ORDINANCE CASES.

VALIDITY OF A NOTICE TO QUIT QUESTIONED..

Two interesting Rént, cases were heard yesterday by Mr. Justice Dyer Ball in the Summary Court.

In the first case Fong Chung-nin sought to recover possession 2. Queen's Road Central, from the Sang Hing Tai firm,

Mr. Eldon Patter, K.C., represented the plaintiff and Mr. H. S. Fitzroy up-

peared for the defendant.

The Mesics OFFICER OF HEALTH, said: Enquiries are always made into eases of typhoid fever when musifed with a view to eliciting inforniation which may point to the cause of infection and especially with a view to finding a common source of infection in all or any portion of such Six-Although I agree with your cor- cases. Since, however, the decline of the respondent whose letter appeared in your epidemic of laat July when non-Chinese issue of yesterday, that it was an error cases occurred out of all proportion to

to call for more capital at a time when the relative, proportion of Chinese and non-Chinese residents, there has been no it was not required for the working of evidence of any common source of in-the Company, I cannot feel that the fection. Even residence in the Colonyw can not be a common cause for all the means he proposes to adopt, in rehabilit sases, as at least twelve cases have been ating this stock in the eyes of the in imported since the beginning of August. As regards the resident cases, there is no vesting public, are likely to bear fruit. evidence suggesting that the water as

The remedy required must be more supplied to the people from taps and radical and hydrants is to be blamed for the disease, checking or, better still, stopping alte the exact nature of the intended recon-

more general. It lies in

nor has there been evidence of a taminated common food supply.

gether the wild gambling which is being struction, inasmuch as it did not state There are certain conditions prevailing conducted in fee House Street. The that a wall at the rear was not to be in this Colony which by themselves are Dr. W. V. M. Koen, pursuant to notice,ncient to Leones for the continued plage is crowding rapidly from day to day pulled down; and secondly that the

with ever increasing numbers who, an- notice to quit" on parently find the gamo prqfitable.

The ordinary legitimate business which a small market like Hongkong uffers, can- not possibly be sufficient to recoup a{1} these gentlemen for their untiring activity

WHAT HAPPENS ON SATURDAYS AND SUNDAYS.

naked :-.

Will the Head of the Snuitary Depart

ment inform the Board (i) Whether AutFrabic Emulsion is made in this Colony if aut, from where is it procuret; and is a sufficient quantity always kept in stock; and where is it stored ! (i) Under what conditions is it dis..

fluted when required, for exam "ple, by privaté" "medies1"practition"

Craf (i) Can it be obtained on Saturday afternoons, Sundays and Public Holidays, and what measures muest be taken to procure it " The CHAIRMAN replied; I am authorised to state on behalf of the F'rincipal Civil; Medical Officer that:

(1) Anti-rable emplsion is made in the Colony. A sufcient quantity to treat 2 cases at one time is kept in stock. It is stored in the Bac teriological Institute.

(2) It is issued on application to the Government, Bacteriologist to: (a)

Mölient Officers for the treatment

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presence of typhoid, and in this respect it may he remarked that a table of the incidence of typhoid during nearly eleven years shows that no single month during this period has been without its quota of typhoid canes. These conditions way be sinumprised as follows.—

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Two points were raised by Counsel för the defence. One was that the notice.

to quit was bad in that it failed to state

or before" a vertaini dato was ambiguous, and therefore bad in law, a definite notice being æquired to be given.

The thousands of dry privies" with which anyone can witness by endeavour-test, that the wall referred to was a

The presence of typhoid carriers.

_their_night-soil exposed in buckets.

Overcrowding.

The Chinese method of growing vege- tables by watering with liquid manure and diluted comparatively fresh urine.

The handling of food by carriors either after cooking er without cooking, The use of ice actually in drinks and placed in food, the ico having been handled by possible carriers, With regard to ice it may be noted that, with a view to testing the quality of ice recently imported from Canton, samples were examined by the Bacterio- logist who reported that the quality of the ice was good.

Dr. Koen said he took it from the of patients at the Government Civil | Medical Officers reply that the sugges Hospital; (b) private. Medical tion made previously to the Board that Practitioners, the

cost being the milk was contaminated no longer held charged in the case of private good. It was, he continued, all right to practitioners.

uake general statements but the Board wanted something more specific. They would be able to do something in that direction if only they und a laboratory of their own. What they wanted was to look for, specific local causes. That was the point he was trying to drive home all the time in urging for a Health Board. Ile did not blame the Sanitary Board; but things needed altering."

(3). Yes, on application to the Govern

ment Bacteriologist. Dr. Koen Supposing the Government Bacteriologist is on joliday on Saturday or Sunday, where is it obtained from ?

The CHAIRMAN: The P.G.M.O.'s answer to that part of the question is "Yes."

CALL AT THE CHEMISTS.

Dr. Koca mid that t did not "seem quite clear as to how it was-to-be-oh- -tained on Saturdays and Sundays and usked if the Chairman could obtain more information on that point.

The CHAIRMAN, while pointing out it

ing to struggle through fee House Street during business hours.

Hence the need for the "so-called for ward business, and its well known evil

consequences.

One hears' of business being put through for as far forward as March! Now sach business is undilated gambling pure and simple, and an auch it should be pro bibited and stopped by law.

transactions

...

In answer to the first point evidence was given by Mr. A. R. F. Baven, arëhi-

retaining wall and was part of the site. and not of the house. It formed pårt of the hack wall of the house but this was only for convenience. In the absence of

the house, the wall would still be there.

When the property was sold by the Crown, it was an express condition that the purchaser should build a retaining wall to support the hillside.

Mr. Potter, reply to Mr. Fitzroy's argu,

It can be done very simply with the assistance of the present Stamp Qrdi.ment in regard to the validity of the nance under which every contract deal notice, quoted eases to, show that it was ing with share

must be sufficient for the tenant to know what was stamped with an embossed stamp; failure meant. It merely said that you had to to do so not only renders the contract give up possession on a certain day, but null and void, but also involves a criminal if you preferred, to give up before, the landlord would be willing to take over offence.

possession. The dictum of Mr. Justice Lush, in which he said that he thought such notice was had, was in a case in which the notice stated that possession was required on or before. That was not 50 in the present case, and even under those circumstances, Mr. Justice Lush

Judgment was reserved. was not supported by the text-books.

Let the Legislature then enact that can tracts which cover a period of more than one month are not valid and therefore cannot be stamped. You would then have an offender liable to criminal proceed. ings, and I think this would prove much more of an effectual bar to forward

Asked by the CHAIRMAN if he wished to reply to Dr. Koch, the MEDICAL OFFICER or HEALTH said he would like to make gambling than the Keswick Ordinance one observation, arising out of Dr. Koch's was remarks and that was that he (the 3.0.H) did not retract the least little statements regarding typhoid

Coming back to the Cement Co., in

was purely the business of the PC.MO..! bit frant what he had said in his previous Bpite of rumours of competition present

said that he would make further en- quiries.

For the information of the Board he went on to explain that private supplies of anti-rabi emulsion could he obtained as well as the Government supply.

Dr. Koca: Where is the private supply to be obtained from t

The CHAIRMAN: From Watzons.

Dr. UZORIÓ: Is it fresh

The CHAIRMAN: 1 am afraid you will have to enquire at Watsons as to that.

THE WATER - SUPPLY..

THOSE WATER REPORTS.

ONCE CONFIDENTIAL DOCUMENTS.

In accordance with notice given," Dr. Koch mowed:

This Board respectfully requests that the Regular Reports of the Bacterio logical and Chemical examination of the waters of the Colony be laid on the Table as soon as issued, for its information cad for such criticism as may be called for."

and to come, shareholders should remain unshaken in their confidence as to the future prospects of this industry in view of the large public works and building enterprises now pending.

The Company is an old established one with very valuable assets, us your cor- respondent pointed out It is in a posi tion to maintain command of the market by virtue of the excellence of its product. If the present Directors on being trigg

WHAT IS THE STANDARD OF PURITY ADOPTED? Dr. Ka said that the answers given are found wanting, shareholders will have

Asked

Dr. W. V. M. Kocs, pursuant to notice,

4) Is there a standard adopted for judging the Bacteriological purity of the waters of this Colony, in- cluding Kowloon !

(ii) If so, what is the standard, and how has it been arrived at? Have

past as well as present meteoro logical conditions and other factors been estimated and studied? (iii) Has such examination of, these waters always been satisfactory in recent months? (iv) How often are the different waters examined bacteriologically each month!"

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to his questions showed that it was

essential that the bacteriological reports an opportunity of displacing them at the on the water should be laid on the table next annual meeting, and if the old ones as soon as they were issued. He also wished to know why the reports were will come back, by all means let us have treated as confidential documents.

The CHAIRMAN: They have not been coufidential papers for the past four or

five mouths.

them.

But there should be no cause for anxiety: the Company is sound. Let shareholders remain firm even at some acrifice, and no doubt the organisers of the "beat" movement will find before December is out, that they will not have

Dr. Ozorio said he could distinctly remember seeing one such report from the Colonial Secretary's Office marked ** Confidential."! He asked why the Board was not allowed to see the reports.

The CHAIRMAN explained that the rea had it all their own way, Yours faith- son why the documents were marked con- fully, fidential some time ago was because of certain confidential instructions regard. ing the water. He saw no reason now why they should continue to be looked upon as confidential papers.

ANOTHER SHAREHOLDER Hongkong, September 23rd, 1924.

MAJOR ZANNI'S FLIGHT DELAYED.

ADVISED NOT TO TOUCH SHANGHAI,

THE STANDARD RENT.

The other case was one in which the

Judge was asked to fixed the standard rent of No. 38, Pottinger Street. The owners sought to raise the rent of the part of toe premises, in the occupation of the Chung Mau frm from 842 to 1s A month:

Mr. A. el Arculli represented the own ers, and Mr. C. A. S. Russ, the tenant..

Mr. L. Gonella, architect, was called

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to give expert evidence. He gave it as his opinion that the rental according to value, should "he 825 per month for the basement, $100 for the ground Boor, $u0 for the first floor and $65, for the op storey, a total of $250 per month..

Cross-examined by Mr. Russ, witness said that he valued the property at $56 per square foot. Asked how he arrived at the figure, Mr. Gonella explained that an adjoining owner had naked 838 per square foot for similar property, and he, therefore, thought $30 was the figure he would give a client when asked to make a valuation.

The CHAIRMAN: On behalf of the Prin cipal Civil Medical Olicer, I an author jeed to stato:

Mr. Russ replied by asking if 3r. (1) YOL. (e) Bacillus coli absent from 10 e.o.

Gonella had been to Naples and had seeu This "standard was adopted on the

The lion. Mr. ALABASTER seconded the

there the pedlars offering pèns made from advice of the Government Bacterio-resolution, and urged that the informa-

nodding, Mr. Russ said that they genes- logist after consultation with well. tion as soon as available should be laid known authorities on water both in before the Board. It had been the prac

lava from Yesuvius. Op" Mr. Gonella' Great Britaip and the Far East. tice of the Water Authority to give fairly

ally asked two lira apiece; but if one The nature of the latter half of this prompt information when the report was

offered question is not quite understood,, satisfactory, but when it was unsatisfac

"fifty centimes" the pedlars Major Pedro L Zanni has suffered but it is of course recognised that tory attempts were made to make it after heavy foods the water is apt sat factory before it was given. The another delay in his attempt to fly round always said "Yes," This, Mr. Buse said, to be less satisfactory than it is Principal Military Medical Officer at a the world. This time the trouble is was an example of a price asked, not after storage.

recent meeting of the Board stated that political, and not mechanical When being a true reflection of actual value. (3) Yes; the answer to this question the reports were issued too late for bim interviewed shortly after his arrival at One of the plaintifa deposed in the wit is contained in the remarks column to make provision, for the boiling of Laichikok on Monday afternoon Majoratas-box thata as recently as last month of the Bacteriologist's reports of water for the troops. The same remark, Zanni said that he was expecting word he had been offered 830,000 for the pro- which copies, have been forwarded he thought, could equally apply to the from his Government as to bis future perty but had refused to sell Ho mea- to the Board.

Medical Officer of Health to the Board, movements in relation to the civil war tioued that many brokers had made (4) Samples from

now raging round Shanghai. each supply are should he have any desire to issue in

similar offers to him, but when pressed examined once a month, the same structions regarding the water.

Anticipating no difficulty in this direc- by Mr. Russ, said that he could not re- ples being taken from: (a) unfil thought the general public should know tion, Major Zanni overhauled and re- member the name of any one of them. tered or raw water entering the whether the water was good or bad in fuelled his machine early yesterday morn

-Addressing his Lordship, Mr. Russ said. filter bed; (b) filtered water after order that steps could be taken to boil iting and made arrangements to hop off that a few months ago the landlords tried leaving the filter bed; (c) tap water Ife supported the motion.

for Foochow just before noon. At about to get possession of the premises and from the area of distribution.

11.30 am, however, a cable was received failed and they were now trying to ter- from the Argentine Consul at Shanghai rorise the tenants. The evidence could advising the aviator not to land at Shang only be described as astounding. hai until he received word advising him called an expert who talked glibly of mar- to do so. The table also stated that perket price, and he told them he fixed it:

He

The motion was carried unanimously. This was all the business before the meeting.

They

Dr. Koch said that the answer to the third question did not appear clear to biza. He also thought. that the Board ahould have the opinion of the Medical Officer of Health on the questions raised.

The CHAIRMAN: The water supply of COLLISION IN THE HARBOUR. mission to lazd had not been granted. because of a price which a man hoped

the Colony not really concern of this Board, and I don't know whether the Medical Officer of Health is prepared to express an opinion.

The MEDICAL OFFICER OF HEALTH: I AM not in a position to do so.

THE TYPHOID EPIDEMIC. THE E UTILITY OF GENERAL, STATEMENTE QUESTIONED,

SLIGHT DAMAGED. When the N.Y.K. 1.6. Osaka Maru was Coming into port from Calcutts and Singapore on Monday evening making her way in. from the western entrance, se collided with the Chinese owned steamer Borneo, which was made fast to buoy No. A15.

The Japanese Captain reported the accident at the "Harbour Office.

Dr. W. V. M. Koën, pursuant to notice, asked :-

In view of the persistence of the occur. The Borneo had a few plates stove in rence of Typhoid Fever in the Colony above the water line, and the repairs may are any further efforts being made to delay her a day or two. She is on the trace the possible source of infee- Hongkong-Haiphong run. The Osaka tion "

Mari eustained no damage.

This, of course, meant that Major Zanni's to get but did not. He had never heard Light further North would be postponed | such nonsense. The increase asked for' for the present, at any rate. Certainly was outrageous. He had previously offer- be could have gone on in Foothow, but ed 860 and he thought that very reason- there would be no advantage in his so-able. He agreed that it was a case where dong as he would only be held up there. the rent should be increased.

Whilst disappointed at the further Mr. Arculli said that if the tenants defay Major Zauni is still hopeful that offered $60 it was clearly forth more permission to land in Shanghai will be Mr. Russ had talked to Mr. Goñella granted. To this end yesterday afternoon about the pedlars at Naples. They ask- be seat a special cable to the Argentine ed two lira, Mr. Gonella might give them Consul at Shanghai, urging him to obtain ra, but he could quite understand the permit if at all possible...

Bir. Russ getting the pen for 50 centimes. Should permission be refused to land Mr. Russ came from Scotland. (Langh at Shanghai it may mean considerable ter.) changes in Major Zaimi's programme.

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His Lordship' fixed the rent at $60 and Ile. has a quantity of spare parts for his ordered that each party should pay is machine stored at Shanghai.

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