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THE SHIPPING CONTROL
CONTROVERSY.
INTERESTING
WITH
INTERVIEW THE COLONIAL SECRETARY.
ILLUMINATING - ANSWERS TO "QUESTIONS,
A regresentative of this paper' had'a Jeg and interesting interview, yester day with the Colitial Secretary (the Hoa, Mr. A. 31. Fletcher, CM.C CBE) on the vexed subject of the Shipping Contral Controversy. "A niya fær of questions, most of which wore hos tile to the Government's point of view, were put to ME Fletcher and these he discussed in a very frank and open
manner
THE HONGKONG DAILY PRESS, SATURDAY, SEPTEMBER
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CIVIL SERVICE CRICKET CLUB.
ANNUAL MEETING.
THE COMMODURK'S POWKER. 3-Tf the ships were in all ener nikitioard ly the Commodore in the maur f the Admiralty, haw, sex it that Ponmudore, in our setter referred
Mr. J. It. Wood, Vice-President of the Messes, Muller i Cu, to the Hongkony Gurernatit when they wanted informa- | Civil Service Cricket Chah, presided at, Bion' everening me of their proselst
the annual meeting of the Clubs held last The Colonial Secretary replied that the | evening on the Club premises, the Pæsi- Shipping Controller's representative in dent of the Club, "Sir Cind Severn, Hongkong was Colonel. Thomson, whose being at present absent from the Colony, offcial title was Deputy Shipping Coo-The Chairmin was supported by Mr. troller. lle, in the first place, prevented Colin Sara (Hon. Secretary) and Mr. G
correspon-
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He referred with feeling to the death of
one of their inembers, Mr. Llovil.
SPORT,"
VICTORIA RECREATION CLUB
AQUATIC FESTIVAL,
LAST NIGHT'S SWIÙMENO,
There were several interesting events in the third night's programme of the ami aquatic festival, held at the Victoria Recreation Club yesterday even- ing.
La e long p'ange (open to the Colony) there were four entries and Garrnil was far and away the best with a distance of 308, tins.
29ru, 1923.
H.E the Governor was present, together with Commodore Orter and Mrs, and The attendance was good Miss Grace. and the affair passed off without a hitch.
Results:-
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a list of the ships to be réquisitioneel to H. Haskett (Hon. Treasurer)......
In moving the adoption of the report the Commodore and to the Hanglang Government. It way the Conumodore's and accounts for the past year the Chair- part of the work artially to requisition man said that the number of members was very satisfactory. There were 234. the ships and to see that they were hand- el over to the proper sources of opera. tin. The Hongkong Government work-
in the expnoity of Managers of the A message of congratulation had been concern, and naturally any
sent to Sir Cland Severn on his being stence received y the Commodore-con-knighted.
The financial position of the, Ciuh was Amongst the allegations laid against erning the management of the vessels
Four Lengtha' Handicap for Members. was referred by him to the Hongkong not so good as it was last year. They thrs the Hongkong Government are
were really $300 down in the year's wark. H. Duncan, 68,2-3s. ; 2. A. A. R. Governançat.
ing. The report and accounts
Botelha, 61.2-5secs. (they have already Appenved in both the
ndopted.
Long Plus, open-1, S. H. Garrod, Shanghai Press and the local Press but.
$ruled it be corret to say that the
Mr. Haskett moved an alteration to duft, lins, : 2, T. R. Soares, Stft tins. there is no harm in repeating them;-hige might have been sequiailivärd, as.
rute dealing with the annual subscrip-
He moved that this be increased-1, A. F. lay, 11.230; E. Yards Championship of the Colony. (1) that the Government commandeered were, an the Caminadore's co-preprations.
lant net sally they were at the disposal of from $10 to $15. He pointed out that Brodin 23.1-es errtain vessels for the simple purpose of the Hongkong "Governmirat? In other this was the obvious thing to do mwing making money out of them; (2) that
words, får "hand was the hand of Eman | to the Club's financial position. The sum these vessels were naod by the Govern but the mice wws the evice of Jactly!"' ... of $10 was very low in view of all that -ment for profiteering; (3) that the treat-
was provided by the Cath ment of the owners of these vessels by the Government was pitiless and resalted in une Company going into bankruptcy.
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TIROSE INSTRUCTIONS, FROM HOME.
THE VOICE OF JACOB,
Well, it is not exactly correct to say at the disposal of the Hongkong Goy- grnment, replied the Colonial Sevre tury.at it was correct in so far that For the purpose of simplifying matters, we were the managers of the concern. the questions put to the Colonial Segretary The Deputy Shipping Controller in Hong- are printed fi italics and his replies fil-kong (Cal Thomson) would request the low immediately after each question. Commodore to requisition such and such ship. The Commodore would do so naël then write to the Hongkong Government 1--far puind the Hudyking Cherrogeal in something like the following terms: make is that ma artian Virs ogrlust them, “herely notify you that, in sivurinnee ay they only neted any agents for the with the Shipping Controller's instruc Imperiul farerament, Are unt the Shiptions. I have vecinisitioned the 3.5, --- prog Campinies, burever, band in lake atul that this vessel is now placed under melion against them, as the party who your care as managers," There was no "netually "requisitioned the ship and to subterfuge about the business at all; it this tument held the mary cared by was all quite open. Hem? Ene enn the xfuques themselves prove the existence of instruction, which! they have
orgar ay the»5--be it correct tu sug that the x. torxfer of cubility: 11a moto found" but the suggestion of a private party in wwx-detually requisitioard burglar bie room he would maturalintien of muther ship which the Shipping Ar at him without quy vonsideration a Board houd intruded to requisitum bu to whether he was working under litrue-
to which objectionkarze raised by the Fan From a "Mr. "Pagin""
Jurat representative!
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THE "WOLLOWRA " CASK.
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were
Two Lengths' Handicap for Army and 2. Pickett. Navy.-1, Wood, 10,2-5sres ; 18. 1-3s.
Four Eenigth Handicap, ladies, open.
Mr. Turchi seeonded the motion. Mr. Grimmett moved as an amendment. Mis M. Blunsdon, Imin, ees.; 2. that that the manual subscription be | Miss R. Kitchell, min. 43.1-5. doubled–820. Mr. Glanville seconded
Two Lengths' Town Race for Members. the amendment.
Narenha's team.
The Secretary spoke in favour of the motion ami pointed out that as far back 28.190s it was proposed that the slurrip tion should be raised from 810 to 815. If it was considered noeessary in 1909 it was surely necessary in 1923,
Mr. Brown thought the subscription should not be, altered. If they put it up they would lose a lot of money.
Mr. Holidge spake against the inereuse in subscription, stating that the mealers aught not to be asked to pay more unless it was going to be something to benefit the present members and net for som mythical club house which might or sight not materialise.
On the amendment being put to the meeting it was lost, but the original motion that the subscription be raised from $10 to $15 was carried, by 35 votes
to 12.
The Secretary said that as far as they could gather there were only two wich members rätitled to this honour. They were Mr. Lamble and Mr. ft. Witchell
The Colonial Sceristary replied that the
The B'olfarra was requisitioned under
Mr. H. S. Verzette moved that original shippers were quite right in bringing their action against the Hongkong to different scheme altogether," explained | members of the Club when it was founded the Colonial Secretary." It had nothing 20 years ago and who had remained enn- Crumpet. They had to 'shout SOD- where and at someone, and so they shot to do with the scheme out of which this stant members of the lab be elected This was seconded by at us I don't blame them in the least controversy has arisen. She was requisi-life members. for that. They had to try and get in tioned on the 30th November, 1917, for M. Denkin. somewhere, but they knew well enough the purse of replacing the s.. Burr- Gur defence was that under the Iralembert, which had been requisitioned by ity Act we were not liable, nl if the the Shipping Controller. The der action had not been stayed I don't knew
was not considered suitable for imperial "what netion the Court would have taken, Government work and the Bruleet was, but the follower, was, considered -hat it is more than likely that the whole
thing would have been referred Home suitable for carrying coal to the Colony Mr. Fletcher, speaking of the Indemnity and it was for this purpose that she was Act (which took the form of the Indenni requisitioned.” All this happened koute ity Ordinance in this Colony). asked time before the controversial scheme what would have happened if the ease came into force, which was on the 15th had been sent Home and the Hongkong April, 1918, six months later. Referring shippers had been successful? The Into the correspondeure on the slige
Mr. Fletcher said that the Vital Require nents Committee resorted to the fevern- went on the 20th November, 1917 in the following minute:
The motion wn's out to the meeting aml"
icd_manimously,
Mr. Landle svitably replied and said that when he first one to the Colony in 190 he was successful in picking out
ricket eleven out of the Sanitary Board. In the following year a number of other! Government Departments followed suit and the result, was that they handled together and formed the Civil Service (Tulz Thanks to the good offices of Mr. Chatham they were able to get a decent ground. Sipen the formation of the Club i had grown into the prosperous concern In view of the importanés off that it was to-day. supplying the Colony with coal at The election of Officers was next pro- rustable rates it was agreed to resneeeded with and the following, were mend that the Il'ollurgi, a bont ausuit-iected: Hon Secretary, Mr. C. Sara: able for Admiralty requirements, Hon. Treasurer. Mr. G. H. Häskett: requisitioned to take the Burrendbee's Steward, Mr. Taylor Captain (1st XI). Mr. A. E Wood; Vier-Captain, Mr. G. R. Sayer; Captain (À Team), Mr. C. Sura: Cricket Representative. Mr. F. Ling: Bowls Representative, Mr. S Aldermen: Tennis Representative. Mr. J. A. E Bullock: Greenranger, Mr. F. Allan: Offgial Cupire, Mr. Lambie Scorer, Me. Massey,
jerini Governant would have faced with a grave issue of having to eet claims from all the big Shipping Companies at Home-the Canarl, the White Star, the Elternzan ling, and others; There would have been huge claims, also, from unition enreras, railways and so pt, and the hill would have been ruortuous. When the Indemnity Act was ander discussion in the House of Com mons the question was asked whether place," the operation of the Act would not be | Later, when the new scheme came into hard on the people rutierhed, and the force in April. 1918, the Fallout reply was to the effect that if the Act was naturally, transferred into the scheme. was not passed the estimated amout required by the Government to meet surh laims would be £400.000,400, Mr. Flet- cher was, not sure of this figure but he thought it was about the sun stated by him). Our obvious defence was, of course, that we were simply acting on instructions from the Imperial fovem
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RUNNING EXPENSES.
6-flare not the Componirs & legit wente grievance in the fart that they were id jur wages, repairs and other rang mate, at a sterling rate which did not ever the "aumber of dollars dis bured by them?.
The Colonial Secretary answered that this question had been taken up with the Shipping Controller. He had strongly urged that, in view of the inercase in prices and the
The General Conunitter elected was Messrs. Vergette, Lamble, Deakin, Grim met. Edmonds, Holdman and Techi.
Several minor matters were then at tended to and the necting was closed.
· GOOD HĽAVENS? But the
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100 Yards Championship for H.M. Fore-1. MeDade, 883asers: 1. Wood, 76800
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FOOTBALL.
MATCHES FOR TO-DAY,
RONOKONO LEAGUE.
Division 1.—Avrksuff, 95.15 pan, Hongkong Club (r. Hongkong Polien, Club ground. Referier Mr. WJ- HRTIES.
FI.M.S. Tumor ». H.M.S. Biomede, Sekumpoo "A" ground. Referen: Mr. Wakeha
Korlon 2. King's Regt. Kowloon
ground. Referee: Mr. Smith.
Division I-Kirk-off, å pan. Hongkong Club ». King's Regt., Club
ground. Referee Mr, Ford. St. Joseph's 2. H.M.s. Diomede. St. Josh's ground. Referent Mr. Bailey. :
R.G.A. Sacred Heart Sookunpoo "A" ground. Referee: Mr. Spencer. H.M.S. Towar . Kowinch, Sookan- ground. Refire: Mr.
B ** כb
Texley.
South China MA
South Chine B South China ground. Rese feree: Mr. Grept,
King's tents for to-day -
e. Kowloon. at Kowloon, 5.13 p.m. :-
Binece: Wynne and Williams: Newton, Halgson and, Barlow: Willans. Dangerfield. Li Jones, Forshaw and, Bousley,
v. H.K. Club, tm-Holland: Me and L. Bailey: Hayter, Critchlow and Janes: Love, Rigsby, Momn. Carr and Crotty.
GARRISON FOOTBALL NOTES.
The Garrison Football League Competi- | tion has been continued during the week.
d. some exciting matches have beep witness-3
team met "D" Co. King's and after a On Saturday last King's H.Q. " A” hard fought game obtained the points by the only goal of the match.
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On Tuesday King's H.Q. A" team Jury said the shipowners in Hongkong
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hard fought game with "B" knew all about them. The Government remuneration should be payable as to and the owners worked in very else half at 1s. D. to the dollar and half at llegation That they ans preferential Co. and after being in arrears at the ro-overation. Mr. S. T. Williamson, the rate of the day. This was refused. treatment in regard to the requisitioning interval managed to win by the odd goal Chairman of the Shipowners' Protection The Deputy Shipping Controller in of ships in there, watend Association, and at that time Messrs, Hongkong also made.representations." It "Good Heavens!" ejaculated Mr. Flet-
Co. King's best 94th Co. R.G.A. Moller, and Co.'s Hongkong represent
was pointed out that the vessels lirought cher. "We were grubbing paid for on Wednesday afternoon by a lucky goal tive, worked in close operation with under local requisition were meatly old every available ship we would lay hands scored early in the first half. the Government. "Un to the present,"
and in more or less had condition, with an. Look at this." Bad the Colonial On Thursday. King's. H.Q. “A added Mr. Fletcher, the shipowners the result that the cost of repair and Secretary turned up surrespondence to played 55th Co. R.G.A. and obtained the have brought no negative proof to the controller's reply was to the effect that compelled to take little tubs like the
was unduly high. The Shipping | prove his statement. "We were actually points by the score of nine goals to mil. effect that they did not know of the existence of these instructions."
payment to owners in the East should | duherd (211 tons), the" forurlia (214)
Hard Co. R.G.A. surprised "B" Co. the greater than them paid at Home, tons), and the Wok Foton (289 tons) and King's and won by two goals to one, THE POWERS DE THE HOME GOVERNMENT. We tried hard to get easier teens' und | yet they say there was preferential freat.
I don't think we could have done any 2-low rauld the requisition of these thing more." Mr. Fletcher added, how vexarly be regarded us iegal merely because. it was carried out, as alleged, an the ever that he was still negotiating with instructions of the Home Guverne, Shipowners' Protection Association, on Mr Williamson, the Chairman of the whore powers of that time did not extend the matter. by long legal instrumrat.te Hungkung!
"How on earth did we know that?”
T-Did the Companies,not also, sufre a exclaimed the Colonial Secretary. All loss, ut tulirely due to their entilessurss. this was happening in the early part of in insuring their vexetal
9-1f the Governnien, thought it fair carting tp settle the dispate in a fifty-fifty 1918. The Germans 'started their great "I challenge any of the owners to lasix, what bus, fuppered in the King's H.Q. "A". offensive on March 21st, 3018, and, as you know, our backs were against the wall. come forward and any that they insured time to change the rice? The pressure of work on the Imperial Mr. Fletcher emphatically. They all cussed but the suggesting did not come "D" Co. King's... 1
Eszto. R.Gi... Mr. Fletcher said that this was dis-King's H.Q. "A". their ships against war risks," replied Government at Home at that grave knew that the Government accepted war to anything, as the Government had period was enormous. At that time if
would un
King's H.Q. "A". we wired Home for instructions on any risks on the vessels requisitioned. This earned that such a scheme
was clearly explained to the owners by doubtedly have failed to secure the Seere Co. King's... & 3rd Co. R.G.A..."3 the Government. For the fint three tary of State's sanction?” months after the scheme came into opera- tion the Governinent insured the vessels.
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A fine game wiseen on Friday evening meat There certainly warn greuse" when “C” Co. King's met the H.Q that certain big river steamers were not B team. Co. set the pace in requisitioned from the Yangts and the the first half and were two goals ahead at Canton Rivers, but we were emphatically the interval. The Headquarter men got informed by the Shipping Controller that together in the second half and two fion that such ships were not to be requsi- goals from Wynne made the store equal, tioned."
After this both sides were awarded a penalty kick but neither was converted. Result; 9-2.
THE FIFTY-FIZTY BASIS.
WEEKS "RESULTS" AT A GLANCE.
"D" Co. King's, of anh Cỏ HG.A... i
"B" Co. King's... 2
th Co. R.G.A... 0
69th Co. R.G,A..... o "B" Co. King's... 1 King's HQ. "" 2 LEAGUE TABLE INCLUDING FRIDAY NIGHTE RESULTS.
TEAMS.
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particular point we received no reply to our cables. We were simply left to do the host we could. Put yourself in the
IS IT AN UNCONDITIONAL GIFT) position of the Imperial Government,
hut later the Government itself accepted if the manry in the hands of the local 10.- The Turperint flaxernaout have proceeded Mr. Fletcher, they were fight the war risks. ing with their hacks against the wall.
Government is it merely a qualified gift | King's H.Q. “A”..........."4 400 19 2 8 What would you have done under the Mr. Fletcher added that Mr. Burkill in the use that the Home Government King's "C" Co. .....3.2 10 7 3 5 circumstances - Mr. Fletcher answered was the only one who appeared to context in plaiur full discretion as to the King's "A Co...... 2 200 734 the question himself by adding: There the point with his two vesels-the| monary in which it shut hẹ emploju!! King's "D" Co2 0 2 5 4 4 Was only one thing for it, and that was 'ollowre and the Patriat-bat no daim to carry on ns best we could and we did. was forthcoming. If they had insured Of course, it was later found that wo their vesels against war risk, why had were fully covered in aur actions and the not applied for a refund? Not one that wo were quite right in what we of them had done so 'did."
(Cantinued, at foot of west column,)ī
"There was no binding contract," said 83rd Co. R.GIA........ 3 2 0 14.5 4 Mr. Fletcher. It was simply no ar King's HQ "B" 2 1 1 0 2.3 rangement in which we had to take the King's "B" Co... 4 1 0 37.5 risks of the scheme. If there were losses 04th Co. I.G.A 30-03-18.0 we would have had to meet them and rice 37th Co. RA.M.C... 1. 0 0 1 0 0 88th Co. R.G.A.......... 0 0.12 20
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