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1.E. THE GOVERNOR: The case secms to me to be rovered by the second are tion. I do not quite see the necessity for the eluxe at all. Anything that is done, under clause (a) can and will be done under elanse (b).
Hon. Mr. POLLOCK: I suppose the idea was that in a sense clause (b) puts the onus on the policeman of showing that the person is acting in a suspicious man ner, whereas clause (a) does not..
The ATTORNEY-GENERAL: It is to cover cases where the polier may receive in. formation that certain people are conning along with arms. They do not know who they are and they therefore stop anyone they find on the round. Most of the people are perfectly respectable and net neting suspiciously,
dopted and the measure passed into law. NEW EDITION OF HONGKONG
ORDINANCES,
THE HONGKONG A DAILY PRESS FRIDAY,” AUGUST
that are set forth in the Appropriation Account but in view of that also that I endorse the remarks that have faller from the Senior Unofficial Member, and trust that in connection with the forth
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708 alansa the tion. Mr. POLTOCK "Now. Sir. that, as I submit, is a very grossly overestimated or the Depart quite recently aven the general principles said: "With regard to this clause. Would unsatisfactory state of affairs Of this ment was grossly under staffed to carry of the plans had not been agreeil If the suggest for the consideration of the necessary expenditure we have little over it out and the failure to do so is, I think, lion, Member will look at the Secretarial Council that the hours, 9 pm. "to 6 am fifty per cent, actually expended in the sufficient and ample proof of that fart. Ale on the subject he will be aninged to might be extended. In this Colony it is year 1989. A number of important works In addition to thai, your Excellency, it is discover the mumerus problems, ranging dark some nights as early as p., and were very seartily dealt with, as we well-known that you have under con- from engineering to religious, which aries I think we ought to adapt 7 pm., or pre-shall see by referring to this AppropriaBideration, and I hope will shortly in connection with the new prison. The цроп, very considerable main plans are, I think, adw prepared ferably 6 p., instead of 0 p.m. I can tion Account, For Sai Ying Pun School, embark remember number of cakes in which for instance, near the bottom of page 36. Harbour development scheme, and it it and the detailed plans, 1 trust, are "in houses have been entered by armed rob- $5,000, is allocated, but no sum of money in connection not only with the Agures course of preparation,
Another specific instance, mentioned by hers between the hours of 6 and 8, or is expended; Queen's College-formation and in the evenening. In fact, it is of site 233,000 should have been spent, rather suitable time for committing but there was only spent $1,670.77
the Hon. Member was the pumping plant armed robberies, and I think it wouk? he Tarning to the next page-page
for the Tai Tun Tuk scheme as to which better if p., were substituted for under the heading of " Communications,"
it was noted that less progress was made itemed. the road from Bowen Road to coming Budget you will provide for owing to questions submitted to the con prolonged delay in denting with that, nut- Relse. Bay, on this important piece of very considerable increase, in the staff of sulting engineers. The reason for the ter was that the question aroso whether work, which will nearly halve the distance the Public Works Department.
it was desirable to introduce a new type from the City to Repulse Bay, there
The Hon. Mr. R. H. KOTEWALL: Your or electrical machinery or use steam ought to have been expended $75,000, but only 817,000. odd has been spent. Turn Excellenes, I crave permission to make a machinery. The Public Works Depart ing over now, Sir, to page 42, there was few remarks in connection with the item neat advanced certain views and the con- on them, an important work to be done in respect Rents Allowance" which appears onsulting engineers commented
page "19
on the Draft Appropriation and several references to and fro were of the Tai Tam Tuk scheme, additiona!
This item shows a necessary, I think the eventual decision pumping plant. There ought to have Account for 1929
Mient engine fimulations; total expenditure of $60,730, which I was that steam should be retained. In been 83.000 othing was spent engine and resume represents rent allowances to my other cases the explanation given boiler, twa lakhs dollars; in fact, only those European civil servants, who do is that less work was done than was anti- 81.086.80 was spent. There is a marginal not occupy Government Quarters Tree or cipated. I am afraid that in certain cases This privilege to it means that difficulties arose in regard note explaining that to a certain extent. nt reduced rentals. it says:No work done. Still in bands European employés is necessary, but to land titles and so forth.
To me this venture to make an appeal for similar cases it means that it was not possiblo of consulting engineers." does not fully explain it, because I do relief of the Chinese, Portuguese and to make the expected progress and 1 not understand who are the consulting Indian civil servants who must, in these should like the Hon. Member to remem- engineers or where they are to be found, days of high cost of living, find it very her first, that some six weeks were cut nor why it is that we cannot obtain their difficult to make both ends meet on their out of the year by the strike, during which The amendment proposed by the Hon. advice and opinion in sufficient time to meagre salaries. The Government is to work was possible, and there would MF. Pozpock was adopted.
start with this additional pumping plant. encouraging employers to build houses have been, in any case, a considerable The Bill passed the Committee stage
A few items lower down is the Stanley for the accommodation of employés, and falling off on that account. I think you without further amendment And on Mount Catch Water, another important I am sure that it will show the same will End-1 have not the figures at hand Council resuming the ATTORNEY-GENERAL work in connection with our water in the measure of sympathy for its own ser that the annual expenditure was cer unved and the COLONIAL SECRETARY Tai Tam Valley, $100,000 was to have vants-irrespective of race, now that the tainly not far short of the maximum of seconded the third reading.
This was beru spent, but $801.72 was actually speat matter has been brought to its notice. previous years. I think it must be ad- in 1929. The only marginal note we have The Government can baild houses in mitted that considerable advance was "The work was only commenced hear suitable localities and let them to its made in very desirable works: possibly the close of the year," which, does not subordinate
reasonable more could have been done with more really carry us very much further. Anreutuls, or grant, them an allowance in staff-that is riot absolutely certain, he- The ATTORNKY-GENERAL, moved the first other important item on page 44 is the aid of house rent: If it is found, foremise in this question of public works you On that hospital financial reasons, impossible to extend the are somewhat dependent on labour and reading of a Bill intituled, An Ordinance Kowloon, Hospital. to authorise the publication of an elition there was estimated to be spent $200.000, privilege to all, may I suggest that the at the present time there is a consider of the Ordinances of the Colony to be whereas in fact $21.115.35 was expended privilege. may be first given to sub-ale shortage. I remember that Mr. Per- Work ordinates who have more than, say, teu king remarked that it is not much use known as The Ordinances of Hongkong, that year. The marginal note is 1844-103, and to repeal the Statute Law could not be commenced, as early as years service. I respectfully commend having the staff unless you can provide (New Revised Edition) Ordinance 1811, anticipated." On the Police Station at this suggestion, which has the support of accommodation for them, and the first He said: The objet of the Bill is to Mongkoktsui shortage of expenditure was my Chinese colleagues, to the sympathetic necessity is this thuilding which we now see ontside these windows. Now that it owing to difficulties with foundations,"
consideration of your Excellency. authorise a new edition of the Ordinances
There is another item on the same is ready for occupation there is room for of Hongkong. It is obvious. I think, that Under" Communications, items a to g
page, the item Stationery, for which ore staff than was the case this time a 1 have been looking in vain new edition is desirable. A longer there are enormous aniounts not expend- time thun ushal has elapsed since the lasted a respect of the roads in Kowloon 52,000 was originally voted. This shows ear ago. revised edition. This Ordinance gives which total altogether just upon to an increase of 4,502, and the explana the necessary power for the preparation lakhs of dollars. Then Sir, on page 48 Lion given in the last columi is Increase and issue of the edition. It contains all there is the item Training Nullahs (a) of Government business." This volum the formal power which the extiter will Mongkokisui :10,000 only $750 spent of Government business must have con
require and he will also, of course, have The marginal note is "Work could not siderably increased during the last few been fully met. I can only say that, as Public Works purposes, I shall continue to submit to the Council other law amende commenced until late in the year."years, but it is a question whether it has long as the Council will vote money for ing Ordinances and to cover any point Another item on the same page is
Perhaps not covered by the formal powers given Territories Gaol $50,000"; the amount Brown to the same extent as the rx to meet the requirements of the Director |
penditure shown on that items. to him by this Bill. I beg to move the spent was 2000 odd. The next is "Police there are other and special reasons for this matter. Emust atter a word of Station, Shatin 33.000," nothing spent this enormous increase which have been warning. I assure the Hon. gentleman The CULONIAL SECRETARY Seconded, the erection of brick bungalow at Taino omitted from this White Book, and I am that the next programme of Public Works
$90,000," nothing spent: Anglo-Chinese
not ultimately be proceeded with. This Council approved and the Bill was rend
School, Cheung Chan, $17,000," nothing sure the nothicial Members would like will certainly contain items which will is inevitable unless you include in the the first time.
spent: "Quarters for Inspector of Ye to have an explanation.
The Hon. COLONIAL SECRETARY: With estimates only items which you are ver CROWN RIGHTS' (RE-ENTRY)..
nacular Schools, Taipo. $15.000," nothing| spent. At page 48, near the bottom, is regard. Sir. to the question of Renttain of dealing with, and in that vase V ORDINANCE,
mentioned a very important scheme, Allowance I may say that it is the policy you continually have to decide the order Kowloon Tong Development of the Government to,extul housing to of urgency and enl the Finance Com The ATTORNEY GENERAL moved the The second reading of the Bill intituled. An Scheme. (a), resumption $81,000, only the Service more or less" generally. Of mittee together for alteration of the vote. Ordinance to amend the Crown Rights $14,000 spent; (b) Excavation and filling, course, it is a very big undertaking, and have tried both systems and I think it owing to the present demand for labour is better to take as optimistic a view as (Re-entry) Ordinance, 1870.
64.000; $10.000 spent.
saving, as tho These are items that happened to for building, the Government is not press. you can hearing in mind that there will strike me in reading through the Draft it immediately. "But it has in view be, I will not say a
in expenditure. The Council resolved itself into Com Appropriation Account. The next result and is making arrangements for an exhon. gentleman does not approve of the mittee to consider the Bill einse by is, as I have pointed out, that we find tension of the Kowloon Tong scheme for word, but deficiencies clause. The Bill passed through Com that only three-and-a-half millions out of a provision of a number of suitable houses I am afraid I cannot answer the hun. uittee without amendment and on the 80,000,000 has licen expended. It is for the senior Chinese and Portuguese member's specific points in regard to cer Council resuming, the ATTORNEY GENERAL Curious how often the expression occurs, clerks in the service. As I think you tain items, and the Director of Pulilic moved and the CatONIAL SECRETARY SEC-Less work done than was anticipated," know, the Government system is that Works has not been here long enough to There is point on which he is anxious to obtain onder, that the Rill be real a third Br. Less progress made thru was public officer pays six per cent, on his answer him either, but if there is any
anticipated," or contracts not jutt inlry in respect of his rent. The motion was agreed.
hand until nearly the end of the year "one point to which I may draw attention definite particulars I have no doubt that I think these expressions namely, that the Salaries Commission. information can be supplied in due The COLONIAL SECRETARY moved the is the mornl of all this? What are we report drew the attention of the Goy my desire that the Public Works Depart (Ap- second reading of the Bill intituled. An to deduce as the reason why these works. erent to the necessity of keeping in ment shoukl do as much work as it pos Ordinance to authorise the Appropriation declared by your Excellency in Council touch with the commercial community in silly can and also have the staff which of a Supplementary Sum of One million in October, 1021, to be pressing works, connection with the raising of clerical will enable it to do such work.
Rising again, H.E. THE GOVERNOR said: five hundred and eight themand five to be carried out in 1929, why are the salaries in the Colony, and it is a some plause.) · hundred and ninety-four Dollars and not done, I submit it is clear in the What important question, because when a
very large The Colonial Secretary reminds me that Government employing the main why these works have not been clerical staff, gives increases of salary it I forgot to add that recently we have seventy-eight Cents to defray
carried out-it must be due to a shortage is reflected in the charges which commer-largely extended the practice of giving Charges of the year 1999.
of staff in the Public Works Department in houses have to bear under the same out work to private finns, so that to a This question has been constantly and re-
A question which might be certain extent relieves the pressure on peatedly brought up by the Unofficial head. This
embers of this Council. We consider considered in the first instance by the the Public Works Department, though, of General Chamber and the Chinese Chamcourse, it increases pressure of work on that it is extremely bad economy that her of Commerce. His Excellency the outside firms, who appear to be very busy the 27th October, 1921, your Excellency there should be a shortage of stall in Governor has recently authorised the on non-Government matters: Probably I am quoting frum Hansard for 1921, at this very important spending department. Treasurer and myself to go into this we shall get more results from an increase page 137-made the following observations. We hold that it is good value to get out very question and put forward the begin in the Public Works Staff than from out- on the subject of the vote for Publica full and sufficient staff to carry out
first reading.
The COLONIAL SECRETARY Keconded, and the motion was agreed to,
time.
and so on.
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through Harward to find the remarks assured the Council quite recently that made by Mr. Perkins, but I believe he all, his requests for additional staff had
(SUPPLEMENTÀRY "APPROPRIATION. occur about 40 times. Weli Sir, what although they did not put it in their course. On the general question, it is
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The COLONIAL TREASURE.seconded.
The Hon. Mr. H. E. POLLOCK: Your Excellency, When the Budget for the year 1922 was introduced in this Council on
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Works Extraordinary :--
all the necessary works, and it is quite nings of a scheme. I may add that while sile help
the Rents Ordinance remains in forre
The CHAINIAN: It is the practice to The total sum provided for Public clear from the figures that I have given, Works Extraordinary is $0.611,300, an that the year 1998 must be reckoned the pressure upon this class is not nearly
propriation Bill separately and to ask increase the estimate for the pre-as a very baal year for the progress of great as it would be if there were no take the items of the supplementary Ap
rent restriction. vious year, of 81,643.500. The vote for Public Works, this year in which, we have
The Hon. COLONIAL TREASURER: As to your approval of each one. I think after this year was far larger than any vote only succeeded in spending just over a
Last generally are sufficiently explained in the for Public Works in previous years, so half of what we intended to spend upon the item for stationery, the explanation what His Excellency said, the items that honourable members will be able works described in your Excellency' is perhaps not fully set forth. 10 gauge the extent to which the rapid speech in this Council as necessary year's estimates show a saving of 817,157. text of the Appropriation Accounts. You development of the Colony is making public works," I trust, Sir, that the the reason being that a quantity of goods will see that most of the money has 11. necessary to spend sums on roads question of a sufficiency of staff of the ordered from Home which ought to have already been voted by this Council and buildings, reclamations and waterworks Public Works Department will be gone arrived the year before did not come in this is merely to regularise the votes of that were undreamt of a few years age. into very seriously by the Government, until last year. One item represented in last year. The first item relates to H.E. Many works that are desirable, though do not think anybody who reflects upon the expenditure is £3,947 which is, the Governor and is largely in connes somewhat large item Transport of not very urgent, have had to be drop the position of affairs in this Colony at think, suficient to explain almost the tion with the Prince of Wales's visit. A ped for the present."
the present day and upon the extra-whole of the excess.
H.E. THE (OVERNOR: To which the Government Servants, $139,000). This From the extract that I have just read ordinary rate of building which is going from your speech, Sir. it will be gathered on a rate even higher than it was in Treasurer might have added that the cost was very much larger than was estimated. that this vote of over six-and-a-half the year 1023-can doubt that it is of stationery is very much higher than it The loss on subsilnry coin was on acebunt million dollars was for the carrying out extremely necessary for this Government was ten years ago. With regard to the of the melting of two million dollars face of various Public Works Extraordinary to see that the Department is fully remarks of the Senior official Member value of subsidiary coin. It was voted which were considered by the Govern-strengthened to meet every reasonable as to the expenditure on Public Works by the Council at the time.
cations, to anke. The first is, of course, ment to be absolutely necessary for the contingency. I have spoken on this Extraordinary I have one or two obser- effective progress of the Colony, many point, Bir, at some little length beesus that the programme as it appears in the works which were desirable having to be of course, I cannot help knowing that the Estimates is a maxilaum of what we can with, the Police Department vote, could dropped, even so. Well, Sir, if Hon. Government must now be having ander hope to perform, ned I am afraid we you tell us about these Russians landing Members of this Council will now refer its consideration the question of the to the Draft Appropriation Account which sufficiency of the staff, not only of the must assume always that a certain pro- Are any of them entitled, by their tickets, not be carried out for various reasons." The CHAIRMAN: On their vina? I think was circulated with the Orders of the Public Works Department, but in other portion of the works estimated for can-to hid here 7
ROSSIAN REFUGLER.
The Hon. Mr. POLLOCK In connection
Day for this meeting, they will find that offices, with a view to the introduction of Difficulties arise in such matters as obit mist be the case: We have a very that anticipated expenditure of over the Badget in thin Council if two months taining possession of lind and the letting strong rule with regard to Russiane. It six million and a half dollars for Public time. Therefore, I venture to emphasise of contracts. Amongst the items to which was made at the time that a large muni Words Extraordinary in 1922 has not this point and to express the hope that the Hon. Meraber referred is the newer of refugees were coming in. The been spent; in fact that the money spent the Government will fully budget for A on public works extraordinary was little sufficiency of staff in the Public Works. The expenditure of 8-164 was not rules require that no Russian may come The Department, so that we may not in an incurred, as he suggested, merely for the here unless he has a British vien which more than half of that amount. actual relevant Sgures will be found three other year, be faced with this extra-pe of keeping the item on the books recommends that he should come through enmmencement of the preparation of The Hon Mr. AJO LAN: A great lines from the bottom of page 50 from ordinary under-expenditure which has of the Colony, but it was incurred in the here.ends
plans, which proved to be an extraords unther of these people take passages in which it will be seen that the estimated occurred in the year 1972,
The Han. Mr. P. H. HOLIDAE: Your narily difficult tasks. I may say that this Shanghai and North China to proceed to expenditure was $6,011,300-the" sunt: mentioned just now, which I quoted from Excellency, it is easy to criticise, but I new gaolo is my own, project I have Australia at Hangkaug dare say, in your Excellency a speech-and that the do not think anyone who has carefully always been particularly interested in it many cases, theyre waiting for the nctual expenditure was $3,575,835, only, studied the Appropriation Account can and I have been pressing the: Public encarrying ship for-Australia. leaving what is optimistically called a fail to be struck with one or two facts: Works Department to say when they fe
(Continued on page %.). Eaving" of $3,033,605.
ither the Public Works Badget, was in a position to proceed with it, but patil
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