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HONGKONG, LEGISLATIVE
COUNCIL.
A meeting of the Legislative Council was held in the Council Chamber yester day. There were present:- HIB EXCELLENCY THE GOVERNOR (Bir BEGINALD EDWARD STUBBS, K.C.M.G.) H.E. LAZUTENANT-GENERAL Üsorge Midt- LAY KIRKPATBicz, K.C.B, K.0.8.1. -(General Officer Commanding the
Troops in China).
CLAUD SEVERN, OMG Hon." Mr.
(Colonial Secretary).
•
Hon. Mr. J, H. Ke, K.C., C.B.E.
(Attorney-General).
Hon. Mr. C. Mcl.. MESSER,
(Colonial Treasurer).
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O.B.E.
Hon. Mr. E. R. HALLIFAX, O.BE. (Secretary for Chinese Affairs).
Hon. Mr. E. A. Lavine (Director of
Education).
Hon. Mr. T . PERKINS (Director of
Public Works)...
Hon, Mr. H. E. POLLOCK, K.C
Hon, Mr. Lau CHU-PAK."
Hon. Mr. H. W. BIRD.
Hon. Mr. A. G. STERREN,"
Hon, Mr. A. O. LAND.
Hon. Mr. Crow Sno-so...
Mr. A. G. M. FLETCHER, C.B.E. (Clerk of
Councils).
MINUTES.
The minutes of the last meeting were pproved and signed by the Presidens. THE BUILDING ON THE FINEST SITE." The Hon. Mr. A. O. Laso gave notice of the following questione :-
Will the Government state:- (1)-What, if any, use is to be made of the Building now under erection, on "The Fisest Site" after the visit of Hla Royal Highness the Prince of Wales! (3)-What, if any, precautic being taken to cope with an outbreak of Fire during the erection of such Build- ing?
(3)-Whether the risk of Fire, and that of damage by Typhoon, has been covered by Insurance?
PAPERS.
The COLONIAL SECRETARY, by command: of H.E. the Governor. laid upon the table the following papers:
Regulations under Section 17 of the Police Force Ordinance, 1000, on 22nd December, 1921..
the
Orders under Section 9. of the Post Office Ordinance, 1900, on the 20th Decem ber, 1921.
Regulations under Section 5 of the Cremation Ordinance, 1914, on the 5t January, 1922. **
Regulation under Section 20 (4) of the Merchant Shipping Ordinance, 1899, on the 5th January, 1922.
Rule under Section 18 of the Prison Ordinance, 1998, on the 12th January, 1022. "..
Amendment of the Statutes of the Uni- varsity of Hongkong under Section 24 of the University Ordinance, 1911, on the 12th January, 1992. ****
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(d) The erection of these offices will
be compoaced within the next few days A
above argument were to prevail the result TREATIES OF PEACE ORDINANCE, would be that the community would have, The ATTORNEY-GENERAL mayad the firs
(e) An Acting Clark of Works has to pay a very much increased price for reading of a Bill intituled An Ordinanco
been appointed to the Building the land, although this increased price Ordinance Office from amongst was based solely on the mere possibility to modify certain provisions of the Treaty its existing staff. Also an addi tional Overseer to All the of conversion which the Government have of Peace Order, 1918, the Treaty of Panos vacancy thus created. An addi- absolute discretion to refuse. The effect Austria) Order, 1980, the Treaty of Peace (Bulgaria) Order, 1920, "and the tional Assistant Engineer for this office is being indented for would be to make development more ex (f) It is proposed to leave the other pensive and to raise the rents on theaty of Peace (Hungary) Order, 1921, as amended, for the purpose of adapting appointments suggested in developed property, and it might even
the provisions of the said Orders to the abeyance until 3r. Wright's have the effect of checking development circumstances of the Colony of Hongkong. return carly in March so that they may be considered in oon nection with other
changes pending in the office
altogether in a particular district-
3.The intention of this bill, therefore. (g) The Government is not satisfied is to provide that the rule of taking the as to the desirability of creat-market price as the basis of compensa ing a Committed to take the
The "Objects and Rossons" state- The object of this bill is to adapt certain provisions of the Treaty of Peace (Austria) (No.2) Amendment Order, place of the Governor-in-Couption is to be subject to the further rule 1991, the Treaty of Peace (Bulgaria) (No. cil for the purpose of consider that no compensation is to be given in) Amendment Ordar, 1991, and the exemptions or modifications respect of sach mere probabilities.
Treaties of Peace Orders (Amendmght) dsked for in plans, but arrange. 4-For convenience, the whole of Sec- || Ordar, 1931, to the circumstances of this ments are being made on the lines suggested in the report for tions of Ordinance No. 14 of 1921 is to Colony. Thase Orders were published as accelerating consideration of be repealed and re-enacted, but "practio. Covarnment Notifications.320, 327 and 55% such exemptions and modifon-
ally the only part of the substituted sec in the Gasctics of the 29th July and the tions.
3rd December, 1921. The method adopt- tion which is new is paragraph (c).
The ATTORNEY-GENERAL said: The Billed in the bill in the same na that of pre- proposes to repeal Section of the Crown vious Treaty of Peace Order Ordinances. Lands Resumption Ordinance,, 1921, and to substitute a new Section, but the only
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The Hon. Mr. H. E. POLLOCK, asked the following questions: ~~*
In view of the following statement, which occurs at the end of Section 1 of the recently published Census Report:
The Hon. Mr. H. W. BIRD also naked: With reference to the statement published in the Press relating to cases of communicable disease, are all cases of smallpox included "therein; if not, why not? The COLONIAL SECRETARY replied: -Alow provision in the proposed cow See cases of small-pox are included in the ion is that contained in paragraph "c" The object of paragraph "e" is to pro return which is sent to the Press.
K.C.. Vide that, on resumption of land under the principal Ordinance, no compensation shall be paid for any mers expectancy or probability. For example, the owner of land held under agricultural lease which prohibits the erection of buildings, is no "The number of floors in Hongkong to receive any compensation on resump sad Kowloon occupied by Chinese bax increased, in the inst 10 years, by 7,117, tion based on the argument that, at some which at 18 persons per floor, a fairly time or other, the land might have been high average, affords accommodation converted into building land (with the for 108,755 out of a total increase of consent of the Government) if the resump 137,398 the Chinese urbani, “popula tion, thus leaving a large portion of tion had not taken place. Similarly, the increases to find accommodation in owner of land who holda a permit from houses already fully-occupied-in-1011';
year to year 13 not to be heard to say that will the Government state how many the permit had been renewed annually for floors in Chinese tenement house have several years and might have been renowed been made available for occupation
(i) in Hongkong; (ii) in Kowloon
since the Census was taken 1
Will the Government also state to what extent further floors in tenement houses are likely to be available for occupation during the first half of 1922 The COLONIAL SECRETARY replied:-The foors made available in Chinese tenements between 24th April, 1921, and 10th Janu-
ary, 1922, are:-
(1) Hongkong (11.) Kowloon
140
It is anticipated that the following additional floors will be available by 30th June, 1922:-
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Kowloon
290
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indefinitely, and, therefore. that he is entitled to compensation as if he were the holder of the land under a long lease In both three cases, and in similar cases," the owner of the land resumed will only be entitled to compensation for what his actual rights are and not for any possi bility of increased rights which he might have obtained from the Government at some future time. The Government, course, has to hold the balance between
of
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The opportunity has also been taken in Serial No. 4 of Part II of the schedule to remedy an omission from the Schedule to Ordinance No. 16 of 1920.
The words **as amended ** - in the
title of the bill, and in clause e and the schedule will be clear from a reference to... the following table Yattached to the Bill) which shows the dates of publication in the liasete of the various Orders and amending Orders, and the Ordinance by which cách was modified, where necessary.
The ATTORNEY-GENERAL said: This is one of a serica of Ordinances necessary for the purpose of adapting to the Colony certain Imperial Orders issued in Eng- land for the purpose of carrying out the various Treaties of Peace.
This parti- cular Bill proposes to adapt the Treats-of- Peace, Austria, No. 2 and the Treaty of Peace, Bulgaria, No, and the Gonerat Treaties of Peace Orders, Order, 1091. I beg to move the first reading.
The COLONIAL SECRETARY seconded and the motion was carried.
The Bill was read a first time.
MAINTENANCE ORDERS (FACILE
TIES FOR ENFORCEMENT) -
ORDINANCE.
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The ATTORNEY GENERAL moved the first the owner on the one hand and the com- reading of a li intituled An Ordinance munity on the other, for it is the money to amend the Maintenance Orders (Facili- the community that is spent on these tier for Enforcement) Ordinance, 1921. resumptions. What happens, very often. The
-"state:- Objects and Reasons" is that speculator, in the case of agricul. The object of this bill is to amend the 930 arst load are prepared to pay for forcement) Ordinance, 1991, so as to pro Maintenance Orders (Facilities for En- deal more than the value of the land agricultural purposes in the hope that vide for its extension to maintenance orders made in another Colony or Fro or the purchasers from them, may they be allowed to convert that land to build tectorate or Demínise, which may hero- ing land. The operation of these specula. after be willing to enter into reciprocal In view of These latter figures can however only be tors, of course, creates a fictitious market relations with this Colony.
price, and when land is resumed the the numerous British-administered terri regarded as an approximation.
Arbitrators are aaked to give com-tories in the Far East, it seems desirable pensation on the basis of that fictitious to establish such reciprocity. The bill is market price. That happens particularly introduced on instructions from the Sec- The ATTORNEY-GENERAL said: The prin in the case where the Government is about retary of State for the Colonies. to lay out and develop land for building purposes, and the effect on the community cipal Ordinance provided for the enforce. is that the cost of developing that landment in Hongkong of maintenance orders is very much increased; rents have to be made in England and Ireland and it gave raised and possibly such operations may facilities with a view to enforcing in The COLONIAL SETEZIARY replied:-even have the effect of checking the England and Ireland of maintenance development of that district altogether. I orders made here. The present Bill is Negotiations are in progress, but it is only wish to add that this principle of intended to give power to extend the same- impossible at present to furnish-any-use-not receiving compensation for mere prob system to other parts of H.M. Dominions
The Hon. Mr. POLLOCK also asked Will the Government give the Council information as to the progress which is being made with the financial negotia tions for the transfer of the Military Establishments to the mainland
CROWN LANDS RESUMPTION (AMENDMENT) ORDINANCE.***
Exemption under the provisions of Seeful information. tion 20 of the Piracy Prevention Ordi nance, 1914, on the 12th Janmary, 1999.
Order under the Merchant Shipping Ordinance, 1890, on the 19th January, 1822."
Becision of Order under the Merchant Shipping Ordinance, 1899, on the 12th January, 1929.
(All the above have beca-published in the Government Catetta).
The COLONIAL SECRETARY, by command of H.E. the Governor, laid on the table Financial Minutes Nos. 1303 and moved that they be referred to the Finance Com.
mittee.
The COLONIAL TREASUREE seconded and the motion was agreed to.
QUESTIONS.
ACQUIBITION OF BUILDING BITES AND PASSING OF "FLANS..
The ATTORNEY-GENERAL. moved the first reading of a Bill intituled An Ordinance to amend the Crown Lands Resumption Ordinance, 1921.
land had not been resumed.
"
ability or expectancy is not a principle invented here, but is already in force in England in the Lands Clauses Consolida tion Acts I beg, to move the first read ing.
The COLONIAL SECRETARY seconded and the motion was carried,
The Bill was read a first time.
VOLUNTEER AMENDMENT
ORDINANCE.
The ATTORNEY-GENERAL moved the first reading of a Bill-intituled An Ordinance to amend further the Volunteer Ordi. nanes, 1920.
and to British Protectorates which give us reciprocal facilities for the enforcement of our maintenance orders. I beg to move the first reading. -The COLONIAL SECRETARY Beconded and the motion was carried.
The Bill was read a first time.
. A WAR MEASURE.
The second reading of the Bill intituled An Ordinacce to restrict the taking of legal proceedings in respect of certain acts and matters done during the war and to provide certain case-remedies in substitution therefor, "was again deferred.
THE ADJOURNMENT.
The Objects and Reasons" state :- The object of this bill is to secure a greater percentage of efficiency in the
H.E. THE GOVERNOR: It is not proposed to proceed with the anal item on the Hongkong Volunteer, Defence Corps. At
paper. I understand it is the wish of present there is no peasity provided for inefficiency, and some members of the certain hon. members that the first Ordin corps bave failed to carry out the mini-ancs read to-day should be postponed for a mum of training which they undertook short time in order that they may have to do on enrolment.
further opportunities of studying it The ATTORNEY-C
-GENERAL Baid. Under the
None of the remaining. Ordinances are. It does not present Volunteer Ordinance there is no
appear necessary, therefore, to bold-an- sanction for incifciency except the rather matters of great urgency. drastic one of dismissal, and the fact that other meeting this work or next and that a volunteer getting dismissed in his first will take us, to Chine New Year. That year of service forfella 146 in the first being so. I propose that: we adjourn sine
of service, 30 in the second, and die. $20 in
in the third. Apart from that remedy which is not always available or desir able the only sanction is the man's own conscience and the disgrace, if attached to
dismissal. Unfortuhaki these
FAREWELL TO LIEUT.-GENERAL" KIRKPATRICK.
H.E. THE GOVERNOR then added: In these circumstances I very much
state: The Objects and Reasons 1-The object of this Ordinance is to make it clear that in resumptions under the Crown Lands Resumptionz Ordinances no compensation is to be awarded in res... pict of mere expectancies or probabilities, For example, the owner of agricultural land held under a Crown lease which pro hibits the erection of buildings except with the licence of the Crown is not to receive any compensation with respect to the possibility that such a licence might at some time have been obtained if the
This prin The Hon. Mr. H. W. BIRD in accord.iple is not new as it is in force under
Year ance with notice previously given, asked the Landa Clauses Consolidation Acts in Whas action does the Government England, and it seems only reasonable propose to take in connection with that the community should not have to the "Report" of the Committee op pay for a mere possibility of this kind pointed for the purpose of consider ing what measures can be best taken which the claimant could never have
in the case of some members of the Yolun (1.) To facilitate, the prompt ac-enforced.
quisition by applicants of sites 2. The reason for the amendment of teer Corps and it is now proposed to go regret to observe that this is the last back to the system in force for many years occasion on which Lieut-General. Sir Ordinance No. 14 of 1921 on this point is under the old Volunteer Ordinance. Under G. M. Kirkpatrick will assist our delibera- (ii) To facilitate the prompt passthat that Ordinace liña down as a gen- that there was a fine of $25 for ineffi-1 tions and I wish to put on record an ciency. The reason it was not embodied behalf of this Council our appreciation The COLONIAL SECRETARY gave the, fol. oral rule that the basis of compensation in the present Ordinance was this: Under of the services which he has rondrred to should be the market valus of the land, the old scheme the Government used, to us as a Council and to the Colony during lowing reply.
his term of office bore, and to express our..... 1-Action in accordance with the in- and it appears to be the case that specula pay a capitation grant of 25 for each
structions of the Government given tors, in the case of agricultural land for efficient volunteer and if a man failed to best wishes for his future in whatever prior to the appointment of Com
come allician of cpurse the funds of the station he may take when he leaves us. mittes but practically, in accord-instance, are often-prepared-to-pay more Eorpa lost $25 for that your and the man (Applause).
HE. THE GENERAL OFFICER COMMAND- anco with its views as expressed in than the value of the land for agricul. we cbliged, under the Ordinanco, to make
up the deficiency. There is ho such system ING: Your Excellency, honourable col-, the report referred to, is proceed-tural purposes in the hope that they may of capitation grante now, and it was hoped fleagues of the Legislative Council:. May ing as follows: (a) There are now ten studente be allowed to convert it into building with the present Volitnteer Ordinance of I be permitted to express my great appre
just the Individual and social maneciation of what His Excellency haa training for Chinese Surveyors land. The claimant in such a case would 1900, that the stored to would be enough said, and to say that it has not only been and Draughtamen (b) A European Clerk has been a formed or was evidence of a market price themselves efficient every year.
no doubt argue that the speculator's price to ensure that volunteers would make a very pleasant duty but a very instruc
Those tive experience to have taken part in your pointed to the Burvey Office (c) Extra accommodation will be above the real value of the land as agri- sanctions have proved insufficient and it discussions here. The Colony of Hong-
provided not only for the Sur-
system of fine and to impose a penalty and, so far as I personally am concerned, Toy Staff but for others of the cultural land. This position is all the snow proposed to return to the old kong has before it a very great future I shall always watch closely for nows "Public Works Department Stall more likely to arise in a district which of $25 for inefficiency.
in the New Building, to be about to be developed by the Govern the motion was carried,
The COLONIAL SECRETARY seconded and concerning its development-
H.E. THE GOVERNOR: The Council will erected near the present build-
adjourn sine die ment for building purposes, and if the
1
which they may require,
ing of building plans i
becgrtie
The Bill was send a first time--