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"HONGKONG LEGISLATIVE ATTORNEY GENERAL proposes to move in
COUNCIL.
THE RICE BILL IN COMMITTEE. QUESTION" OF "REAM:LATIONS,
PRINCIPLE
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AIR ALABASTER FIGHTS FOR A
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SEPTEMBER 5TH,
1919.
) the price for which rice of any valid unless disapproved by the Legisla
particular standard Government e tive Council. quality, As defined by section 3, Hon Mr. ALASTER-If they are not (8) the maximum price for which any submitted bow can ye know. They must
particular quality of rice, other, brought up, than a standard Government qua
118 EXCELLENCY THE OFFICER APMINTR lity.
THE GOVERNMENT They will bo
Committee, an amendment to meet this point In setion 4. there is a small verbal imenduent Section 7. hng been changed and under it, as amended, the Govern ment may by proclamation prescribe the price for which the Government quality price at which any particular quality of district of the Colony, antt any person of rice may be self and the maximum may be sold by retatt in any particular rice, other than the Government standard who, in breach of any such Proclamation
TERING published
have to bring forward motions.
Mr. ALUSTER-Then we shall The Bill was then left in Committee,
A meeting of the Legislative Council quality may be sold in any particular shall yell any such standard Governinens for the amendments to Class 2, 3 and 14
held in the Council: "Chuanber, at / district. This is to meet the case of quality of rice at a price other than the to be considered at the next meeting of“)
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wona, pestegaay. There were present:
his EXCELLENCY THE OFFICER ADMINIS
the New Territories where the price price su prescribed or shall well any the Council fluctuates according to the market from such other quality of rice at a price
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SUPPLEMENTARY APPROPRIATION Bilb third reading of the Bill intituled, "An
The COLONIAL SELBETALT MOVed the. Ordinance to authorize the appropria tion of a supplementary sum of ve million four hundred and sixty-six thou sand three hundred and twenty-seven that the Bill had been considered in the Finance Committee and had been approv charges of the year 1918.
tie reported
scribed shall be deemed guilty of an offence against this Ordinance."
Hon. Mr. Hu Fook movel that in the new ofnas he would like to have deleted
of the Colony," that people were heard to buy rise from
There was an impressions the fovernment although they might be able to get cheaper rice elsewhere.
Mon. Mr. A. G. 3. FLETCHER, C.B.E., the tavernment was able to prevent the words in any particular district dollars and sixty threw cents to defray the
TERING THE GOVERNMENT (Hog. Mr. CLAUB / day to day and it is the desire simply higher than the maximum price su pre to is a maximum price there to present, SEVERN, C.M.G.). "
MAJOR-GENERALA Fits far as possible, Profiteering. tay 15 EXCELLENCY Vases, C.B., (Ueberal albeer command in this connection that, at the be ginning of the stringency" in regard to ing tips in China).
certain sales which had been arranged of Colonial Secretary).
New Territory riet prices almost daubl those prices Exed shortly after Hon. Mr. B. E. PULLOCK, KA, (Ator. ney-General).
O Mel. MESSER, 0.8wards by proclamation. Recently, also, the Governtuent found a case where a small (Colonial Treasurer).
Floo.
ALE CHATHAM CM.G. Syndicate was form not by rive ner (Directer of Public Works).
Ho Mr. E. R. HALLIYAX, (Secretary for Chinese Adairs).
Hon. Mr. E. DIT WOLF (Captain. Superintendent of Police).
Elon. Mr. Lad Cup Pax.
Hon. Mr. Ho Foor!
Hon. Mr. C. G. ALABASTER, OB.E. Hop. Mr. 8. H. DODWELL hol. Mr. E. V. D. PARR
ed without amendment
The COLONIAL TREASURER seconded and the Bill was read a third time and passed, Thursday weak" "
Council then adjourned antil
FINANCE COMMITTEE.
next
H.E. THE OFFICER ADMINISTERING THE GOVERNMENT I do not see how they can gather that from" the wording. I do not see how the words can lead anyone to sup pose that they must bay Government rice. The object is to enable the Government to as in any particular district the max; mum price for any quality solvother meeting of the Finaned Committee than the standard Government quality. followed the Colonial Secretary presid
BUENDARY STUNES,
hants, to collect rice, probably far the O.B.E.purpose of smuggling lato Hongkong Steps were taken to stop them. In wetion there is a mistake: it really misprbu tə The words inble to a fine of nut less than 8500 Ishmaeliable to a fine not exceeding 8300. Under section 14, the Governor. in-Council may, mak regulations for the registration and supervision of persons dealing in rice supplied by the Govena. out It is not thought likely that The Colonial Skriterier, by command eenlation, will be necessary, If they of M.E. the clificer Aduistering the are, they will simply lay down how the Governar haid upon the table inauditille mox must purchase ries from the cial Minutes se press and moved that wholesale dealers, how the dealers must they be referred to the Finance Comput in a requisition to obtain rice from mitor
the Government, and how books must be kept to keep a check on the snieg unit se on. They will be of a very elementarylated. nature, for the control of the people yal fing rice
Mr. A. DYER HALL, Clerk of Councils FINANCE
The COLONIAL TEKSscher seconded, and this was agreed to
The COLONIAL SECRETARY, by command of 1. E the Offer Administering the Goverment, laid up the table the report of the Finance Committee No and heved that it be adapter)
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The EULOSTAL TREASURER seconded, and this was varied.
The ATTORNEY-GENSRAR seconded, and the BBL was renet a second timer
Council then weas into Committer fomsider the Bill clause by clause.
The ATTORNEY-GENERAL I have an mendment to make in clause Y. on the suggestion of the hon. member on
my felt why represents the Chines ft
*UGAR CTESTION ORDINANDR, 1919, The ATTURNEY-GENERAL moved, the first rearing of a Bill intituled, an Ordinance trerend the Sugar Convention Ordin-with is in similar terms to clause 4 of
2. 100.
The COLONIAL Szeustear seconded, ami the Bill was read a first time.
The
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the Bill. I would ask that clauses it now, standy should be turned into clause, subsection L. and that a sub ection should be added as follows:- if any person. hall by obeying way this section, have been prevented from fullling any contract, such person shall not be deemed to have thereby committed
Hon. Mr. Lar En Pax, What the ing. Chinese want to know is whether it is compulsory to buy tovernment, rice,
The Offer Athinistering the Govarů. There is a rumour that this Bill willent recommendleri the Council to vote a compel people to buy deam rice. The of there husdred dolla ($300), in; price of Pier is going down
aid of the aute Public Works, Extra- H.E. THE OFFER ADMINISTERING THEordings, Hongkong. Miscellaneous. (3) GovNMKN it is not N. the words of a Bill be eannut listen to
In framing Boundary. Stones very id rumour. We give them the English Tungange as clearly 'as compose, it had they un lave it trans
we can
Mr. Ho Book As long as it is clear that people may bay from whota the like, Fan, satisfied.
GOVERNMENT Certainly. It is in their HE TAS OFFICE ADMINISTERING THE distration There are to restrictions. We have not reached that stage.
The amendment was then dropped, The Arronsky-Cigital moved that the words exeding should be sub-
stituted for not less than in the penalty claus. This was agreed to.
The GRMx-The vote is for $1,000; but more bandary stones have hen re quired than was anticipated.
The vote was agreed to,
POLICE AND FRISS DEPARTMENTS. ment recommended, the Council to vote z The Cheer Aduistering, the Govern sum of sixteen thousand, four hundred
Felice and Prison Departments, `et- VOLIS dollars ($16.2009 in aid of the following
Prison, other charges :-- Subsistence of Prisoners -Lighti
Total
$14,000.00 2,400,00
Clause I read It shall be lawful
The CHAIRMAN--The vote for the sub- for the Governor in touncil to make is mainly for increased cost of rice. The
sistence of
prisoners is $15,000 and this. regulations for the registration and charge for light is largely due to the supervision of persons dealing in riesincreased east of gas.. supplied by the Government. and Hon. Mr. G. ALABASTER ved that
The Yute was agreed to after the word regulations added the words had such regulations
should be
would
COMPENSATION AND RESUMPTION AT, KOWLOON. The Officer Administering the Govern.
ring of forty thousand five hundred lollars (4500) in aid of the vote Public Works, Extraordinary, Kowloor. Public Health and Buildings Ordinance, 1903. :(28) Compensation and Resumption.
tion of a lot which lies across the con The CHAIRMAX--This is for the resump tinuation of Coronation Road:
Hon Mr.. ALABASTER-When will the TANTUR "or PrBLIC WORKS. —
Fork at pohority to proceed with the
The ** Objects and Reasons "state The objeck of this Bill is to carry out The Ustructions period from blueen made der sub-section i f Lay of St for the Culories for the peal of the Sugar Convention Ordin
u, in view of the withdrawal of His Majesty's Government from the a breach of contract, bus such contract should be submitted for the confirmationment recommended the Council vote a Brauts Sugar Convention, the effect shall be deemed to have been cancelled by of the Legislative Council remarking af, which withdrawal is to relieve both such direction so far to its fulfilment that no case led lyen made out for de Lie Imprint Government and the various was thereby prevented. The object of priving the Legislative Council of its Colonial administrations from their ob
this, sir. is to prevent any question as power to consider, approve and criticise ligation under the Convention.
regards acts done under the direction of proposed legislation. INDICTMÄNTS ORDINANCE, 1519,
som offer of the invernment by a mer The CoLNIAL BECHETARY moved the chant prior to the passing of the B pint out that, the regulations, as far ATTORNEY GENERAL woord mading of a Bill intituled, an
which might result in preventing him 14, we can see, are very trivial in charas Orifftance to amend the Law relating to Brou fulfilling the contrast ratergit into
It is somewhat like any business Indictments in Criminal
The bar is to indemnify the merchant concern. If for instance a bank makes.road. be completed? matters incidental or similar thereto. In aerordingly. Clause à of the Bill only
WITH regulation regarding the shroff .Th be said: The object of this affects prior contracts where a person has initialling checks; those need not be sh daini Bill, sir, is to simplify in this Colony acted under an order, made under submitted to a meeting of shareholders. the jorms of indictment in criminal gases section 1. Section 7 that is to say, an Hon. Mr. ALABASTER-The shareholders and burn, merders will see in the schedulerer mut after the passing of this should not be asked to surrender their of this Bill simplified forms of inlict. Ordinance. I am sorry, sir, that this "ight if they want to see them. ulent. I may inforus hou, members that point way mentioned to healy five this Mill is framed upon thewandel of nominates before I me into the Council; Parament recently passed at otherwise the chuse would have been Home. 5 and 6 George à, chap. 9. We circulated to the menibers have not adapted in this Bill every provision of the Hune Act inasmuch as it wits emsidered that some few of these provisions were not applicable, to the cinumstances of this Colony, 1 think, sir, the Objects and Reasons" sufficient. Is at the objects of this Bill and with the few explanatory reasons I have given may be taken as sufficient. . therefore, be to move the second reading of thisBill
The COLONIAL Segrotany seconded; and the Bill was read a second time...
The Council then went into committe
in consider th. Bill clay by clause.
The COLONIAL SKINCETARY I think these details of management should be left an the manager, in this ens the Governor in Council.
re
is no
presune Pruvision The CHAIRMAN-The Government will be made in next year's estimate. gard the matter as urgent. made in these coming estimates.
Hon. Mr. ALABASTER-Will provision be The CHAIRMAN--Indortedly. The vote was agreed tu.
FIRE BRIGADE.
The Officer Administering the Guvers
HIS EXCELLENCY THY OFFICER ADMINIS
The COLONIAL SECRETARY Then rend TERING THE GOVERNMENT-We can postetain etails to which the regulationsment recommended the Cancil to vote a pone the passing of the Bill today and night refer. circulate this amendunt with a view Hon Mr. C. ALABASTER-There is to passing the Bill next week. We can nothing in the Clay as it now stand go with the other amendments, which to prevent regulations of the widest pos
ave already been before members and vible serpe being made leave the Bill in Committee. Other, poirifs check such regulations as have been read
It is not may occur during the week.
that I wish this antendment pawed, but to control the type of regulation, that are made,
.Hon. Mr. DODWELL 1 have an amend ment to move to clause, which is rather important to my mind.
HIS EXCELLENCY THE OFFICER ADMINIS JEKING THE GOVERNMENT If you will give Hon. Mr. ALASTES moved that the it so the Attorns General it can be cir. svetion of the Bill, and that the words] Chess 2.
H.E THE OFFICER ADMINISTERING THE GOVERNMENT The hon. member realises that if this is agreed to we shall base to call a meeting of the Legislative Coun
sum of three thousand dollars ($3,000) police and Prison Departments, B.--Fire
aid of theollowing votes:
Brigade, other charges:- Reairs to engines and plant. $1,500.00 .1,500.00
$3,000,00
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two
Total
vote is $5,000 and they now have
The Cuartas The gines and plant
lance looked after, by the Fire Brigade. moter and engines and a motor ambu-
Further stores are required. In both vote the rstimates were made under WAP conditions and were cut down low as J possible.
The vote was agreed to.
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words after injustice in Class 6, sub-culated with the woundment proposed to it every day to allow this act to come with art ar the stor MACARONI, PASTE STARS, EGG NOODLES, VERMICELLI,
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ions afterwards.
Flow. Mr. DoDWELL-It is very easy to end rend to the anoficial members.
PANLING TO CASTLE, PRAX READ, The Officer Administering the Govern ment recintended the Council to vote
Sum
of twenty-six thousand dollars (20,000) in aid of the vote Pubite Works, H.E. THE OFFICER ÁDMINISTERING THE GüveRXMESTI think that will be done.nications (41) Ronda; (e) Metalling Extraordinary. New Territories, Com After circulating to unofficial members.
and tarring portion of Fanling to Castle if we want to proceed our action would Peak Road (miles). oet be validated unless it camis tx fore
us to custs, and" in sub-section 5 (e) Hon, Mr. DuDWELL I wish to move asi should be deleted. He remarked that the aruendment to Clause that the clause Bill had followed the English form to should commence with the words - Bur- slavishly and the words dealing with costsing the present rice shortage and until such time as the Legislative Council, shall The - ATTORNEY-GENERAL The hop. consider necessary. Then the clause inny mular o presents the Justices of contian the Governor may." ete. 1 "The Perry mentioned this point to me believe, sir, it is the intention of the and I quite agree with him. I am quite Government that this Bill be purely prepared to me the amendment. an emergency one and shall be with drawn at the very earliest moment that the situation warrants, The"figures given us lust work by the Colonial Secretary make us realise the vast importance of the rice trade to the Colony and the meeting of the Council ampant of employment gren to the Chinese by the trade. My fear is that the Bill will find its way to America and other countries which purchase their rice from Hongkong, and if there is nothing in the Bill indicating that this is an enrgency measure it will make them very chary of buying from the Colony,
THE COLONIAL SECRETARY Is it not the fact when liters provente in criminal, cases that they draw up the indictments 1
The ATTORNEY-GENERAL They do not charge For it. It is not the practies to charge any costs in the Colony for draw ing indictments.
The auendments were agreed to. Itr. Sletion of Clause 8, the Attner Beneral moved that the date of November ist, should be inserted as that up which the Ordinance would come into operation.
Hon Mr. ALARAKTER anggested the 9th. or the mah, of a month as it was the practic to coromit for trial not later than the . The iden was to Ling all the perent tried at the Sessions under
one Ordinujev.
The COLONIAL SECRETARY do not think there will be any rules,"
The CHATEMAN-It is the intention to proceed at once with the surfacing of the road out to Castle Peak.
The average cost works out at $7,000 a mile. The vote
route the station 7 is to expedite the work this year.
Hon Mr. DonWELL-Does it include the
had sufficient time to stule.
The CHAIRMAN-No. The road has not The vote was agreed to.
OCEAN STEAMSHIPS MOOKINGS. The Officer Administering the Govern inant recommended the Council to vote 3. dollars (81,200) in aid of the vote Har sum of four thousand, he hundred bour Master's Department, 4. Harbour
The ArruESEY-GENERAL suggested the putation as a free entrepot, so anything moment witheil at the earliest possible Offic, other charges, raising and renew-
12th.of the month and it was agreed that the 39th. Oktober should be inserted.
The COSIAL SECRETARY moved that Subsection of Clauses should re aninbered Class 9 and this also was
approved.
Council then reshed and the ArroeNgy. GENERAL moved the third reading of the Bill as ended.
The COLONIAL SECRETARY Sccunded, and the Bill was read a third time.
ing moorings of ocean steamships. repairs are required. Expenditure was Many of the buoys are old and heavy The CHARMANThe vote is $10,700.
possible to get the work properly done... cut down for war reasons. The vote was agreed to.
Now it is
THE RUCE ORDINANCE, .1013. The COLONIAL SECRETARY moved the second reading of the Bill intituled, an Ordinance for the acquisition and dis posal of rire by the Hongkong Govern. ment, and for validating acts previously done. In doing so he said:The object of this Bill is set out in detail in the *** Objects and Reasons clause. With- regard to section 2. the hon. member on my left who represents the Chinese han suggested that it does not
covor and
"The Governor may from time to time validate nets done, by merchants whose and so often as occasion may require by rice has been requisitioned and the Proclamation prescribe
riles I propose that the clause be deleted Hon Mr. ALABASTER-If there are no altogether, an fighting for a principle. His EXCELLENCY THE OFFICER ADMINIS TERING THE GOVERNMENT-I realise that.. You told na so the other day. It is a HIS EXCELLENCY THE OFFICE ADMINI- principle with which I have every y "TERING THE GOVERNMENT-The whole of |pathy really, ject of the action the Government has Hún Mr. taken, involving an expenditure of mil case if the words were inserted that the DULWELL-Would it meet the lions of dollars, has been to maintain regulations should be submitted to the the prestige of the Colony and its re-
Legislative
prejudice to the validity that would make that clear to people
af anything done under them. elsen bere, who do not realise it, would beTERING THE GOVERNMENT That would not
BIS EXPELLEŃCY THE OFFICER ADMISI most desirable.. I do not know what the fulfil what is desired. Attorney-General thinks.
Hon Mr. E. V. I. PAR I beg to make the concession if the hon. member
Hon. Mr. Alabazzet
unwilling to second the amendment. readily agreed by hon. members that it ing of the Legislative Council."
It will be makes his amendment at the next meet is very easy to lose trade but not so easy
MARRIED POLICE QUARTERS. H EXCELLESCY THE OFFICER ADMINIS
The Officer. Administering the Govern- to get it again.
His EXCELLENCY THE OFFICER ADMINIS
TERING THE GOVERNMENT That might be ment recommended the Council to vote a
long while.
sum of three thousand two hundred and TERING THE GOVERNMENT-We only took Hon. Mr. ALABASTER-I should prefer fifty dollars (8,250), in aid of the voto firstly, we had to get the rice, and, these extraordinary measures because, the amendment as I proposed it origin-Fublic Works, Extraordinary, Hongkong,
ally. secondly, we desired to retain the reputa-TERING THE GOVERNMENT-I think wa Quarters.
HIS EXCELLENCY
Buildings, Conversion of Berlin Mission tion of the Port,
OFFICER ADMINIs Foundling House into Married Police In Clause the ATTORNEY-GENERAL short notice and it might be very incon might have to make regulations at very moved the substitution of the word venient to summon a meeting of the taken care of by British Missionary The CHAIRMAN-As bon, members know, "prevented" for the worda rendered Council. The Bill may be left in Com- Societies. The building is not at present the children from this house have been impossible."-This was agreed to. mittee, adding the amendment to the required, and is being used temporarily
original draft, so that it may be consider as quarters ed with the amendments to Clauses 2 and 3 at the next meeting.
The ATTORNEY GENERAL Also moved that the following clause should be substituted for Claure 7 of the Bill:-
ย
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it would meet the case if words were The ATTORNET-GENERAL asked whether added
that the regulations made shall be
Hon. Mr. ALABARTER-I hope the title will not be retained for the Police married quarters.
The COLONIAL SECRETARY-No. The vote was agreed to,
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