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THE CONSCRIPTION the Tribunal. Now, Dr. Jordan, do you agree with the views that are put to us by the Vice Chancellor i
TRIBUNAL
SIXTH MEETING.
FOUR MEN OUT OF TWELVE SET FREE
Dr. JORDAN-Yes, sir, I endorse every word.
The CHARMAN-And do the Deans of the three Faculties endorse what has been
The sixth mocting of the Hongkongnid 1 Conscription Tribunal was held at the Council Chamber yesterday afternoon, the Chairman, Mr, E. H Sharp, K,U, O.E., presiding over a full attendance of members.
Twelve cases came under consideration, and out of these four mon are to be set Irce for military service. The results,
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THE HONGKONG UNIVERSITY.
F. A. Redmond, exempt.
G. E. Marley, exempt. J.D. Wright, exempt. The foll ring men of military ago from the Univ aty appeared on the agenda paper as having been rejected as unit for service-1 Day, W, Brown, W. P. C. Trafford, G. A. Middleton-Smith, W, J. Hinton, A G Warren and J. W Faulkner,
MESŠRS. JOT: SEAW & Co...
5. Raplay, one month's exemption.
Of the other employer of J. T. Shaw & Co., J. 3. Pearson has been rejected unft.
MESSRS. SHEWAN, TOMES & CO.
R. D. Wilks, no exemption."
↓ I Donnithorné,
exemption.
two
months
been rejected as unit:-E. J. Statters W W. Fleming, T. Legian, A. B. West P. W. G. Clark and II. L. Stainfield.
THE CENTRAL JOENIX", LTD.
J. Rodger, no exemption.
Dr. EARLE There were, I think, rather
After Dr. JonDay had addressed the Tribunal, Major Morgan asked for non- exemption in the case of two.
The CHAIRMAN-Which twot Major MORGAN-Mr. Redmond and Dr. Earle,
Dr. JORDAN-Very strongly so. The CHAIRMAN (continuing) -Professor short of 50 studente in 1914. We expert Digby, you are 34 and married, and ure to have 80 next term, Professor of Anatomy and Surgery. You have heard what Professor Earle bas said with regard to the Faculty of Medicine Do seu agree with him 1/
Professor DIGBY→→Yes, I agree with him, but I am quito ready to go Home. ::
The CHAIRMAN---We know you are ready to go Home. Are you of opinion that the University
can spare you? Profsor DiGB-It is very difficult to
teaching would be impaired to some ex- say. I think, if I went, the University tent. It depends on how long the wor will last. Part time teaching is not very satisfactory for a long period.
Each replied in the affirmative The CHAIRM The University's pre- was whole time staff was 15,-European Professors and Lecturers 13, and two Lecturers, who had been appointed before the war, but who arrived after the war had commenced. I am not counting the Electrician who is not on the teaching stuff. To-day we gather that the Euro- penn teaching staff of Professors and Lecturers is 12 and there are, in addi. tion, two demonstrators or instructors in Engineering. One man, we gather has Civil
The CHAIRMAN (to Mr. Redmond)---You are 32 and married and are lecturor on
The Tribunal then considered the matter in private and subsequently the Chairman announced-The decision of the Tribunal is that upon, Imperial grounds all six gentlemen are exempt.
MESSAS. J. T. SHAW & CO.
The case of L. 8. Rapley was then considered.
left for military service. The Vice-gineering; you are also warden, Mr. Show's outfitting department. The
Chancellor further emphasises the point that there has been a great growth in the work of the University during the dr saying that the University only started work in the Autumn of 1912, and that there has been a proportional in crease in the necessary provision of hostels and outside examination, work The University was, of course, much in infancy at the outbreak of war and itg the growth in each department has been very great since.
Dr. JORDAN Outside examinations in particular.
ink
of one of the hostels. We gather from your form, Mr. Redmond, that you are of opinion that you can be spared. You put it to us that by arrangements with part time men you could be spared.
The CHAIRMAN (to Mr. Rapley)-You are 33 and innrried and are manager of
Tribunal bas read your papers and ve understand that neither you nor Mr Shaw asks for your exemption, although Mr. Shaw says your going will be incon venient to him. In the circumstances, Mr. Mr. REDMOND-I think so. If we are Rapley, you will go. We understand that to carry on es usual, I do not think so, there are certain matters of family but if the University has to carry on loss responsibilities which you will want us to
go lato.
Perhaps you will give notice efficiently then I can be spared.
TRAPLEY-All I want to nek is that
/ The CHAIRMAN-You say, that although, relating to them to Mr. Fletcher. the whole time staff of the Engineering Faculty has been considerably depleted, I may have a temporary exemption on it might still be possible to arrange for those grounds. part time men to do most of your lectur- ing and that the trained Chinese demous, trators could do a good deal of the field and drawing office work. You put it to us that in your particular department that
to the University:
Mr. REDMOND-Yes, I think 80.
The CHAIRMAN Three men have recent. ly left the Engineering Department to take up other work in Hongkong?
Mr. REDMOND-One of them is going Home to the front.
The CHAIRMAN We do not exactly know when the men will be going, but it is not immediately. At any rate we give you a month's exemption.A
Mr. RAPLEY Thank you very much. MESSRS, SHEWAN, TOMES & CO.
The cases of the assistants of Messrs. Shewan, Tomes & Company were then considered:-R. D. Wilks and J. H. Donnithorne. Mr. Adamson appeared on behalf of the firm..
The CHAIRMAN--Professor Wright in 25 and single and is Professor of English language and literature and Dean of The following men from this firm have the Faculty of Arts. We understand could be done without serious detriment]
from this memorandum that the number of students in the Faculty of Arts has increased from 27 in 1914 to 60 or 70 in the current term, and that the training of Chinese teachers, which has already cen referred to, falls into this Faculty. Mr. Brayshay is 20 and single, and is a
The CHAIRMAN-Who are the three firin carries on business in shipping and Lecturer in the same, Faculty and is Mr. REDMOND-Mr. Mathewman, who as general merchants and you are general also Registrar. Professor Early 18 is going Home to the Front, and Mr. managers of several local industrial com and married and is Professor of Physio-Brown, who is taking over Dr. Stuart's panies, the Rope Company, the Green Island Cement Company and China Light work, and Mr. Surman.
and Power. Your European pre-war stuff was 17 men and three ladies and you
are warden of one of the hostels Have staff to-day has been reduced to 14 Euro-
The following men huve been rejected as unfit ; —J.-S. Nicolson, C. Wallace and
C. MeInnga
HOLLEN & CO,
S. T. Williamson, exempt.
H. W. Lucas, exempt.,
ns unfit
The CHAIRMAN (to Mr. Marley), You uro in the same department and are a
The CHAIRMAN (to Mr. Adamson)--Your
In this firm, F. Hobbs has been rejected logy and Dean of the Faculty of Medicine, We see from your papers, Professor Earle, that the General Medical Council in England has sent out a warning, which lecturer. You are 38 and married and had 40 Portuguese and Chinese. Your
THE HONGKONG UNIVERSITY
The first canca considered were those
we understand to be that during the war
from the University:-F. A. Bodmond,the requirements of the minimum currtou anything you want to add to wiat pean men, with six ladies instead of three, K. Brayshay, H. G. Earle, H. Digheulum must be maintained, or the re-
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Marley and J. D. Wright. Dr. Jordan, as tho Pro Vice-Chancellor, ropre, senter the University in the absence of Nir Charles Eliot
Tho CHAIRMAN (to Dr. Jordan)-Tho Tribunal has read the very full and inter- ting memorandum on the position and work of the University written by the
ognition which is accorded to the Hong kong medical degrees will not be con-
tinued.
you have already said in the form
Mr. MARLEY-Nothing.
and the Portugues and Chinese have ben very considerably insreased. Four- toen men have the Colony left for mili tary service.
Mr. ADAMSON-Not including the two now before the Tribunal.
The CHAIRMAN-You do not express any view, I think, as to whether the Univer sity can get on without you? · Dr. FARIZ That is not sent specifically,
Mr. MARLEY-I leave that to the Univer here, but is a general warning to allity authorities, I would rather not ex-
The CHAIRMAN Ona member of the staff prces an opinion."
Mr. Shewan himself-is absent on the The CHAIRMAN Mr. Holman is at preground of health, and Mr. Statter, who is
Universities.
The CHAIRMAN--Do you consider that
Vice-Chancellor, Sir Charles Eliot, and that minimum curriculum and standard sent away on University business; when unit has recently gone away on business."
will be return 1
by yourself na Pro-Vice-Chancellor, and can be maintained, Professor Earle, if by the Deans of the three Faculties of there is any reduction in your depart- Aris, Medicine
and Engineering: ment, which, as far as we are concerned, We very touch regret that Sir Charles only touches yourself and Professor The CHAIRMAN-He is of military age, Eliot cannot be here today, but we under Digby ↑
but we do not know whether he is fit, or stand that he was obliged to go to Peking Dr. EARLR-There is no possible reduc-unfit. He is in the Faculty of Arts to interview the Chinese Minister of tion.
Dr. JORDAN-That is so The CHAIRMAN (to Professor Middleton Education, regarding the scheme for the training in the University here of Chinese
Smith)--You are Dean of the Faculty of Engineering and the only Dean who docs not happen to be before us. We would like to ask if you have anything in addi-
Thu CHATZMAN -Is there any require- ment by the General Medical Council an
Dr. Eauis-There is no specific require-
teachers for Chinese Government schools, to whole-time men ? and we have learnt in the last day or so, and are glad to hear, that the arrange
ment; but the custom at "ali medical
ment has been concluded for twent schools is to have at least two full-time tion to say in regard to engineering that 1 It is not likely that tho men
mem
Chinese teachers to come this term. Well. Dr. Jordan, this memorandam puts it to *
Dr. EARLE No; we already employ 14,
The CHAIRMAN That is a mattor entire ly for the military authorities. You must approach the military authorities and try to arrange with them. It is not a matter that would take any time to arrange
deal in our department. It is the only department that has lost one me
one man right from the beginning of the war, and now the work on the lights upon which two out of three men are engaged very much The CHAIRMAN (to Mr. Donnithorac)— interferes with their teaching efficiency.
You are 36 and married and are I know Mr. Redmond is very keen to go
electrical engineer. Your firtu asks for a I am glad that he is but up to the pre-short exemption to re-arrange the work and we understand you ask for a short exemption for family reasons,
In obtaining his passport you undertook Dr. JOBDAN-Not much before the that his going should not affect the release session begins.
of the other gentlenen now hofore the Tribunal, With regard to Mr. Wilks you do not claim exemption, but you ask for a short delay in the case of Mr. Donni thorne. The Chairman continuing (to Mr. Wills)-You are 27 and married. Your firm does not ask for any exemption, bub you suggest a short temporary exemption Have you any special reasons for suggest
who go will
go just at present; probably. Professor MIDDLETON SMITH-I entirely it will not be for some weeks.
Mr. Wilks--I wish to take up the mat us that the University's work is of a fessor Earle, that part-time lecturers, possible I think we have suffered a great The Casinus-You put it to us, Pro-disagree with everything Mr. Redmond
has said. His suggestion is quite imter of going to London. highly important character, both imperial could be obtained from among the medi- ly and educationally. The Vice-Chancal practitioners bere, would not sulice cellor points out that recently the Hong to maintain that standard? kong Chamber of Commerce made repre sentations to the Hongkong Government and, I think, to the British Legation but I do not consider that in the clemen- tary subjects of the curriculum, during Peking, that our commercial interests in China and Imperial interests suffer from the first three years, part-time lecturers a deficiency, in their opinion, of British are possible. education and urging the need for main The CHAIRMAN-Having regard to the sent it has been found quite impossible taining British schools and Universitic fact that the students' native language to obtain professional engineers to do in China. The Vice Chancellor also anys is not English, you put it to us that part. Mr. Brown's work. We had the greatest that the University was founded largely time lecturers would not suffice to main difficulty in finding professional engineers by Chinese subscriptions, and that many tain the standard and the result would to fill the other two vacancica. I can students-I think 97 at the present time be that your medical degrees would not only say that for the engineering degree are sent here and their fees paid by the receive the recognition they do at the there were 100 students and 70 per cent. Provincial Governments of Chine, for present day!
of them took the engineering in which thorne asked to go last year, but three men which reason, he puts it to us, the cloung Dr. EABLE- I cannot say definitely that Mr. Redmond is engaged; that is to say were leaving in his department and he. of the University would involve a breach they would not receive recognition, but 70 students out of 250 in the University could not be released With regard to teers and I think that in the reason le of arrangements already entered into with it would be very difheilt to maintain the could not take the engineering degree if Mr. Wilks he was rejected for the volun-
The Vice-Chancellor is very the Chinese authorities The Vice-Chan standard required. The Hongkong
did not go gofore. cellor also makes a distinction between School of Medicine, which was establish monstrators as proposed and I wish to much against utilising the Chinese de the position of this University and thatod before the University, did not apply say very emphatically that Mr. Redmond privata of Oxford and Cambridge and other for recognition because they had not two cannot be spared unless we close down the asked Mr. Wilks if he had been before the Universities in England, on the ground whole time men. It is regarded as a civil engineering department. that their practical closing during the war is due to the absence of students who Preliminary to recognition that there
must be two whole-time men are at the front, whereas, the Vice-Chan
Dr. Jonas-Supposing one of the men cellor says at the University here, the
is taken away we are bound to report it, present summer matriculation entry is the largest in the history of the Univer. and as soon as it is reported I am prac. sity. On these grounds, the Vice-Chantically convinced that the General Medica
Council will take away recognition of our cellor puts it to the Tribunal that degrees Imperial interests as well as the essential The CHAIRMAN-You put it to us that we are under an obligation to the Chinese interests of the Colony call for the authorities to maintain this standard absolute exemption of all six men before of degrets.
be went
Major MORGAN asked for non-exemption in both cases,
Mr. ADAMSON-I would like to make a remark about these men. Mr. Donni
The Tribunal considered the matter in Subsequently, the Chairman
Military Service Commission issl year,
The CHAIRMAN-With regard to the to which Mr. Wilks replied that he Engineering Department, can you give approached the members of the firm upon us the growth from 1914 to the present the subject, but Dr. Black turned him
down. Continuing, the Chairman said— time!
Professor SMITH-As far as my memory: The Tribunal's decision is that no exemp served me we had 50 to 60 in 1914. Last tion is granted to Mr. Wills. You nader session there were from 90 to 100. Nearly stand, Mr. Wilks, no men are going Home half the studenta in the University were just at present and it will probably be in the engineering department: last year. several weeks before they do go. Twa give us approximately the figures in your
The CHAIRMAN (to Dr. Earle)-Can you months exeinption will be granted in the department!
case of Mr. Donnithorne.