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SHALL WE INVITE THE GERMANS TO RETURN?
CHAMBER OF COMMERCE RE-AFFIRM THE
COMMITTEE'S DECISION
EXCEPTION TAKEN TO H.E. THE GOVERNOR'S REMARKS.
REMARKABLE SIGNS OF UNANIMITY.
land, we think, may have been allowed coaling facilities on the way German to lapso somewhat, and we think it may shipping will find a difficulty in reaching be possiblo that British arms will have these distant waters, but can we for a to consider its development upon credit moment suppose that she will not find linns, with the nisistance of the banks, micans to overcome this difficulty 1. What in order that the trade of the Hinterland about the use of oil fuel in place of coal? should be more widely pushed than it would be easy enough for steamors has been in the past. It is true that in sing oil to reach Dutch ports in the the past we have left much of that trade, East Indies and there replenish their what we call border trade, to our Gerstock for the further voyage to China, man competitors. We have realised now Russian ports in the North and Japan. that trade was done, and possibly a pay- That China has sit the moment broken ing trade was done, and that it must be off diplomatic relations with Germany we developed possibly on similar lines, and all know, and I trust that the day is not we shall endeavour to make them sounder far distant when she will be numbered It was further hinted that if you did amongst our Allies; but to imagine for not allow the Germans to return to moment that when pence is establishod Hongkong it might lead to the develop she will continue to decline to trade There was a large and thoroughly re-ed by your elected committe was rejected nient of Swaton, Amoy and other with her is to my inind absurd. I have presentative meeting of the Hongkong in the Legislative Council, and we have outports with railway communication rend that the German Concessions at General Chamber of Commerce at the How brought it before the meeting to thetween those places and Canton, and Tientsin, Hankow and elsewhere, now Chamber of Commerce Room yesterday, endorse or not a seems fitting to you possibly the devolopment of other parto, being taken care of by China, will even- which directly concerns the question of and which is identically the same as the very much whether for some years to know Germane to-day are tolerated and the return of Germans to the Colony proposed in the Legislative Council income they will be financially in a posi-trading in Shanghai. I maintain then to after the war, and also the remarks made your name, is as follows: It is the tion to finance any big railway scheme exclude them from this Colony only would by Hit the Governor at the last mecting opinion of the Council, that it is in the or any big commercial development be a suicidni policy (Voice No, no) of the Legislative Council when replying best interest of the Colony of Borking scheme. But if they were I have no hosi: It may be said that we have got on very to the motion proposed by the Hon. Mr. that persons of German nationality tation in saying that if the British-merwell and prospered without them during 1 M., P. H of at least ten years following the declara to do so it serves them right, and so to a greater degree on their return t
should excluded therefrom for a parind same subject. Holyoak; Chairman of the Chamber of tion of peace; and, that, subsequently when I say th mean that if oice No. Nor do Ithink we have much ported at the bend of the room by the under strict in that, penking o lities of competition, and knowing well tion for many years to come, particular not alive to the possibi to fear for our trade from their competi Commerce, presided, and he was sup they be only admitted into the Colony w Le
we contend that, of we can meet them and overcome them, ly in view of the statement which has Hon. Mr. E Shellim, the Hon. Mr. C. men
Anton, Mr. E. V. U. Parr, Mr. behalf of the Chamber, there was not the then we shall deserve all the competition seen put forward that they will have to Montague Ede, Mr. A. S. D. Causland, slightest need on the part of the Govern we may possibly have to meet. If we compete without the banking and dis- AO. Lang, Mr. G. T. Edkins, MT plause. Il vos largely academic, do not work hand in hand with the count facilities in London which they WL. Pattonden, and Mr. NJ. Stabb It was Chinese Government in connection with formerly enjoyed. It will be within the There were also present the following did not seek legislation, it merely asked railway development between Swatow memory of many of you that some years
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W to Gordon, Mr. R. Hancock, Mr. W. Logan, should be put before the authorities at In conclusion, and in putting this re- this Colony. It was found, however, that S Sassoon, Mr. M, P. Talati, A. B, The sider this very question. We claim that question of a time limit of ten years, so could not be done, and the scheme had Hon. Mr. H. E. Pollock, K.O. Mr. M. Home, who are shortly to meet to con solution to you, I would say that the juntess China would come into line, this Swedish Trading Co., Ltd., (G. Ludia) we have a right to a voice, inasmuch as far as your Committee is concerned, to be abandoned. As this Chamber itsolf Arculli Bros. O el Arculli); Abiatle while the greater Colonies will be reis merely an academic term for the sake in its letter to the Government when Petroleum Co., Ltd. (W. H, Bell and H. presented directly by their own rope of argument. When the resolution was considering the Recommendations of the antig) The Bank Line, Limited, sentatives, we as a Crown Colony will be proposed it was not proposed with the Economic Conference of the Allies re Loughlin) Bunker & Com presented by the Secretary of State for idea of carrying into effect any definite garding the commercial and industrial pany (A Bryson); Banque de l'Indo- the Colonies, on the Thamber ro action within this Colony. It was not policy to be adopted throughout the Em- Chine,(W) Berindoague) Botelho nuncement from shu be most nu understood that it should be so; it was pire: after the War, wrote, "Hongkong Gro (B. J. Botelho): Bradley & Curtain manner should be sent Home, merely desired that an expression from the is essentially a great shipping port and WHEN THE LIGHT WENT OUT? Butcher), British American quile apart from Government despatches Colony should go to the Home Govern- trade, emporius, and as such cannot be Tobaco Co., Ltd. (VL Fairley); and recommendations which might not ment for their consideration in connection disociated from the neighbouring State Caldbeck, Margregor, (F W. S. Evans); be down to is. Now, gentlemen we fur with Imperial Legislation, and it was of China, which indeed provides the most Canadian Pacino Ocean Services, Lid, ther contend that this residue on or equally realised that whatever the Im-important field for Hongkong enterprise Co., (R. B. Cooper); Carmichael & ment in Connell, and that His Excer this Colony would have to fall in with the future in the interest of Hongkong 3. H. Wallace); Cawasjce Pallanger & Hever seriously discussed by the Governperial Authorities at Home might decide, | Whatever Imperial Policy is adopted for Clarke (B. Thomson); China And Japan lency's speech, if it was not flippant in them, and would do so gladly, (Applause.) provision must be made for its peculiar Telephone and Electric Co. Ltd. (D. The lost of it, in its choice of langu. But we did contend, and, we do contend, relationship with China and no measures Carter); China Light and Power Co., say the feast of it, 1 Item be of lagu that we bave a perfect right to express should be taken which would be likely to Lidl Leoman); Chine Provident has the aueal independently our views, to the Imperial be detrimental to the further expansion Land Mortgage Co., Ltd., (H. H. W said in Council, that the appeal Authorities at Home on that very point of the import and export trade with rosier, China Fire Insurance Co., Ltd., made was largely, one based on sentiment, (Applause.) Further, I am prepared to China; any Tariff Regulations should Tavier) Hay) China Sugar Refining and was one which ignored economic say in regard to the period of ten years provide for these circumstances. All Co., Ltd. (G. M. Shaw): China Mutual facts. In the first place statethen, that if the niceting wish it we are prepar- this goes to support my contention that Life Insurance Co., Ltd. (B. W. Tipe) is impossible in connection with this ed to modify the resolution in that ro without the support and co-operation of (Thomas); Connell Bros. (J. LM. The entry of England into this war in that it meets with general accept Ching any such suggestion as that of Compagnie Des Messageries Maritimes, war to ignora sentiment. (Applause.)
enec. We are most anxious that the before us must prove futile and react to Rozario) 893. David & Co, Ltd., the very first place was entirely and views should go forward from this meet our detriment. (Voice No, no.) Gentle dochib David and O. 1. Ellis absolutely due to sentiment, namely, that, ing with positively and absolutely united men, the question under discussion is to my erie & Bowls, (F B. L. Bowley should fulfil our treaty obligations to action, if we can possibly see eye to eye mind essentially one of Imperial Policy. Dendly & Whyte (D. E. Donnelly) the nation of Belgium (Applause, together in that connection. Gentlemen, We have been asked by the Home Govern- Dongo 6.3. C. (H. G. White): Eastern And, gentlemen, it is impons in to leave the resolution in your hands ment for an expression of our opinion Douglas S. Morrison); Fire ceive that as a result of this way senli (Applause.)na u guide, to our representative, at the Insurance Association of Hongkong.Fment in estnection with it will die, down The Hon Mr. C. E. ANTON--Those of forthcoming Imperial Conference, and in A Williams); Fung Tang: (CMB for many years to some, and therefore you who read my speech at the Legisla-giving forth such an opinion we must be Chin Lid. (A Basil Raworth) paus.) You will notice that I am ened that. I based av argument chiefly on hatred of the atrocities committed by our The General Elecric Co. off ww cannot afford to ignore it, (Aptive Council may probably have recognis-careful not to let our justly incensed Green Island Cement Co. Limited deavouring our asson, and to sentimental grounds, not from the com- enemics and nut sentiment for the suffer- Henderson); Goddard & Douglas, (T. present without passion, and to deat mercial point of view, though I have my ings imposed upon our fellow country- Arthur) S. Hancock, (H Han with it almly and logically as it views on that. After all is said and men and Allies to obscure our wound to Committee, dono, we cannot guide our policy by a well-considered judgment. Common cock), WA Hannibal & Co (W. A presents itself to your cock)bal), Hongkong, Canton & Macao and as I trust it will appeal to you. mere matter of pounds, shillings and sense tells us that to, soon as she is abla Beamboat Co., Ltd. (W. E. Clarke) propuse now to deal with the economie pence. (Applause.). I am aware that to do an Germany will open up trade Hongkong and Chins Gas Co., Ltd., argument which, le has been said there are arguments, strong arguments, throughout the world, and for us to at- (George Curria); Hongkong Electric Co., we did not sufficiently dwell upon. on both sides of the question, and though,tempt to bar her from trado with or Lid E. Graban) Hongkong and Kow. Gentlemen, I really felt it was unnects personally, I think we should combine through this Colony, without, as I have loon Wharf and Godown Co., Ltd., (Wary to argue it at length because the dis ourselves against German opposition of already said, the Aid and co-operation Brown); Hongkong Rope Manufac closurus in connection with the ith any kind, yet at the same time I should of our neighbours, would be hopeless, and ticas were such common property in this like to hear further views expressed, as far from our best interests as a Colony, turing Co., Ltd., (J. J. Tavares); Hong Kong Tramway Co., Ltd. (W. E. Ro- Colony that it didngch, tent at the cent am not a long resident here, having Briefly, then, while no one would be more berts); Hongkong Bad Whampoa Dock argue them at length, but as it seems been here only a short time: That is all pleased than myself to see the Germans berid M. Dyst) Hughes & desirable to speak toore fully upon it have to say in seconding the resolution, excluded from this Colony for the period Mr. E. V. D PARR-Without trespassanggested, it enn only be successfully Hough, (T. F. Hough); W. G. Hum will proceed to do so. I said in my Threys & Co., (Wm. Humphreys and W: speech that the return of the Germans ing upon the valuable time of the meets done provided we have the hearty stead
Humphreys) : J. D. Humphreys & Co.. to Hongkong would inimical to the ing I would like to record my cordial fast co-operation of China and the neigh- Har Humphreys). D. Hutchison & interests of Hongkong. That in the basis support of the remarks of our worthy bouring countries, and I suggest, there- argument. (Ap Chairman as regards this resolution, and fore, that there should be embodied in Co. Claxton) S. C. Ismail & Co plause.) I have no hesitation in saying to add that it might be considered any recommendation of this nature for
(T. E Pearce); Holloway & Newall, of our economic (.. Iemail) W. C. Jack & Co Ltd., that at least 60 per cent of the German matter of common and ordinary preeuwarded to the Home Government such a (W. C. Jack) Johnson, Stokes & Master, trade in this Colony was done in British tion. Gentlemen, we desire these senti proviso. (Voice No.) (H. J. Gedge); Kailan Mining Adminis cargo. Now, gentlemen, let us pause for ments to be sent home to the Home The Hon. Mr. P. H. HOLYOAK-As the tration, (J. H. U. Goodhany Lane, Craw a moment, to consider what that mean Government. The Prime Minister, very member of the Chamber who proposed ford & Co., (A II Skelton); Lowe. To all of us who are intimately acquainted wisely, since the beginning of the war, this resolution, I will exercise my pre- kham & Matthews. (A. R. Lowe); with the textile trade, and largely from has acted in consultation with the best rogative and reply to Sir Paul Chanter's Linstead & Davis, (F Maitland) my own practical and personal experis technical and business brains of the coun remarius, I have purposely avoided of shipping Liverpool and London and Globe Insco tives be many occasions in the past to thinpplause) and we are encouraged dwelling upon the subject
very reason that obviously Co, Ltd., (J. de B. Lancaster) WR have been many think that his Government will wel for Loxley & Co., (J. M. Beattie); Leigh ten years where Lancashire travellers income the expression of opinion of busi interests of this Colony and other paris & Orange, (A. E. Griffin and fr. G. this Colony have retailed stuff to nesmen of Hongkong, men, gentlemen, of the Empire must be bound up in- Wood): Macdonald & Co., (D. Me to had of why their position show themselves separably with that of shipping, and donald); Marine Insurance Association who had precisely, the same cargo of as worthy successors to their great pre should it so happen that France of Hongkong, (B. J. Chinchen) Met stuff lying in their godowns and were decessors. (Loud applause.) I think we Italy should open their ports to German Centille Bank of India, Ltd., (C. Champ prepared to accept spot cash prices for have a right to ask that our views should shipping after the war, Hongkong also must admit them within its port, And kin and E. L. Sim); N. Mody & Co., it, were unable to sell. And yet largo be transmitted Home (Applause.)
Because the The Hon. Sir PAUL CHATER then said: in reply to the fear he expresses with (H. K. Erani); N. B. Moses & Co., (N. sales took place. Why? St Moses); Nestle's Anglo-Swiss Con- whole basis of the textile trade, and of Gentlemen, while I yld to none regard to China, that the prevention of the return of Germang for & certain densed Milk Co., (A. G. Coppin); New other trades in connection with Gortuan my detestation and horror of the Ger
in Insurance Co., Ltd., (W business here, was built up upon a credit mans and the unspeakable atrocities period would do untold harm trado with China and Japan, Zealand) K (B. Mori); Pa basis, for which the credit had to be committed by that nation since the com that before very long China; too, will have bany & Co. (A B Avasis); Patell & kept revolving. Therefore, it did not mencemen of the War, at the same time entered the field against the foes Co (MJ-Patell and NI. Karalia); matter what the times were, whether they I cannot find myself in accord with the humanity (Applause.) And if they Pentreath & Co. (C. B. Brooke); Robert sold at a loss or seld at a proft, so long suggestion that it is in the best interdn, theses economic reasons do not appl son, Wilson & Co., (GH Wilson); Alex as the credit kept revolving. That is a rests of the Colony of Hongkong that because she will come equally into line Ross & Co., (A. & D. Consland and Droint I wish to enforce and ask you to persons of German nationality should with the rest of the Allies in desiding K. Moss); E. D Sassoon & Co., (C. Bowell upon 1 also wish to emphasise be excluded therefrom for a period of what shall be done with German trades Gubbay): Shewan, Tomes & Co (3 M that British merchants of this Colony at least 10 years following the declara after the war, and we shall be insepar Gordon): H, Skott & Co., G. B. Wetton) were opposed to trading in there goods. tion of peace, and that subsequently they ably bound up with her. (Applause) Soares & Co., A M. L. Soares) Standard made by Lancashire firms, which were be admitted, to the Colony under strict So I think we need not seriously con Oil Co., of New York, (W. D. Kraft) sold at a leas by Germans, and sold-licence, save and except under condi- sider the argument against the proposi Stewart Bros (E. Ormiston); H. merely to keep the credit revolving in tions which are, I am convinced, beyond then at the present moment, always re- de the bound of practical politics; namely,membering that we are merely expressing Stephens & Co. (H. Stephens) The order to meet due billa In Texas Company (JT Brister); Thomas fance of obligations in connection that the same stand be adapted and main views to the Home Government which we say we have right to hate" con- Cook & Co (J. Bentley) United Ashes with trust deeds and bills, they mis tained by all the Allies in the Far East dered. Without further words. I will tog Oriental Agency, Ltd., (A. Ritchie); applied funds which should have been France, Russia, Japan and most parti Union Trading Co., ( M. Churn) used for paying off, without indefinite cularly Ching given these conditions, put the resolution, unless there is an
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amendment Union Waterboat Co., Ltd., (G. Morton delay, due bills Ray again, that that then I am with you. Except under thes Smith) Vacuum Oil Co., (C. C. Stark),gurt of business was immoral from first conditions to exclude the Germans from A. S. Watson Co., Ltd., (H. Humphreys) to last. Applause.) I ask you, gentle our Colony would be merely to drive Wilkinson & Griet (C. E. H. Beavis) men, whether you are prepared to admit them to neighbouring trade centres, where Hazry Wicking & Co. (A. Forbes); C back into your midst men who are pre once established they would prove El Warrim & Co., (C. E. Warren); Bpared to reconstitute this kind of bussarious menace to our welfare and trade Monteith Webb & Co., (B Monteithness when, after much pains and tremen (VoiceNo, no.)-not to mention the loss Webb) Yokohama Speare Bank Ltd. dous struggling, the trade of the Colony of bencfits to be derived from the use of (One) Tuon Hop Hong (SI has onbe more been put upon a sound our Harbour by their shipping, and of Mr. Donwet then said Gentlemen, Leang) and Mr E, A Wiliams enta basia (Voice No.) And as I said shipping under their control. (Voice-Hot there is one further resolution mir
in the Council, the condition of this They have to shipping, Who wrote it) to ist to you at his zeeling it (Secretary)
The Hon Mr. Horror, who was loud Colony to day is healthier and sounder I deem it inexpedient that I should hereference to the debate in the Legis ly applauded as he entered the room, than it has been for many years past mention in detail places where they could Council on the 18th one o and also when he rose to speak said Allow them to come back and sock to (except and unless China sides with us) remarks, minde by H.E the Gover As it is past the hour for which this to their trade, and from the very nature so establish themselves in our immediate which were taken exception meeting was called I will proceed to and of things no self-respecting British firm neighbourhood. They must be as well Holyoak at the time, and with whi dress the menting upon the shit for would think of dealing with them. I did to you all as to me, but I shall be feel sure you are which you have been called gethon, this not speak of the wider credit system ni only too plented to give my views in full conclusion of the debat HR said afternoon Briefly it is this. That a trade to which the Attorney General to your Committee it and when they have only one remark to make, and resolution, which was unanimously adopt made reference. The trade in the Hiator wish. It has been argced that with no that is that I do not think any unpr
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The resolution was then put to the meeting and was carried with only two dissentients the Hon. Sir Paul Chater and Cant Carter
The CHAIRS then declared the resolu ion carried pnahinibusly.
ANOTHER RESOLUTION.