THE HONGKONG DAILY PRESS, FRIDAY, NOVEMBER 17TH, 1916.
THE LLOYD GEORGE THE ALLIED DEMANDS ON
INTERVIEW.
CRITICISM IN THE HOUSE OF COMMONS.
A STINGING RETORT. Mr. Holt (L.) drew attention to the "interview" which the Secretary for War recently gave to a representative of the American Press. One could not help wondering how it came about that the Becretary for War gave the interview at all. The duties of the particular Depart ment ronlly concerned with the subject matter of the interview were in the bands of two noble lords, who, in the opinion of the House and the country, were singu larly fitted by ability and discretion to carry-out the duties of their office pro- perly. He complained of the reference. of the Bocretary for War to the British soldier carrying on this war in the charas
Be was, ne ter of a sporting animal. said, a game dog. (Cheers.) Another expression used was that we were to fight to a finish to a knock-out; (Chcera) In point of fact our men went into this war, not like sporting dogs or gladiators, but as Christian warriors fighting in a gra and sacred cause. We had embarked on this war in the firm conviction that by war alone was it possible to accomplish a very sacred duty. War was a hateful way of accomplishing that duty, and ought not to be persisted in five minutes longer than The Colonial Secretary. on November 15th last year asked whether anybody supposed we would not all jump at the earliest opportunity of ending the war, provided it could be done in a way consistent with the honour and safety of the country. There were terms in the #interwiow which appeared to him to be in contradiction to that sentimen The right hon. gentleman had said the Germans were " squealing"-presumably
was- necessary.
GREECE.
PROMPT COMPLIANCE.
The following is the full list of the demands contained in the Note presented by Admiral Dartige du Fournet, with which the Greek Government was quired to comply by 1 o'clock on the afternoon of Ontober 11th *****
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The battleships Kilkish and Lemnos and the Georgios dzeroff to remain at their moorings. Their breech-blocks, torpedoes, and munitions to be landed, and their crews and staffs reduced to one-third.
The vessels composing the light section of the fleet to be transferred to Keratsini with their present armaments,
All crews to be free to leave their vessels or to join their comrades,
The occupation by the Allies of the batteries and redoubts commanding the Salamis roadstead and channels.,
The occupation of two of the forts com manding the Part of the Pirmus and the disarmament of the other Pirmus forts.
Officers of the Allies will be appointed to carry out the policing and control of the Port of the Piraeus and to ensure the safety of the Allied Floot.
Finally, in order to ensure the safety of the Eastern Army of the Entente Powers, officers of the Allies will be appointed to supervise the policing and working of the Greck railways.
it considers it its duty to protest against The Government has replied that, while the demands put forward, yet, in view of the shortness and definite character of the time limit allowed and the imperious necessities imposed by the circumstances, it submits to them.
ANOTHER CONSPIRACY
FORESTALLED.
The following dispatch was received by The Times on October 10th from the game correspondent who has kept that journal accurately informed of recent developments in Greece:-
GERMAN PIRACY OF THE AMERICAN COAST,
DELIBERATE SINKING OF A NEUTRAL SHIP.
The
crew of the Dutch steamer Blommersdijk, which was sunk by a submarine, arrived in New York on October 10th and were lodged in the Scamon's Institute pending their return to Holland on the first available steamer. Mr. William Van Doorn, the. general manager of the Holland-America Line, in a conversation with The Times New York correspondent said:
SUBMARINES IN NEUTRAL WATERS.
U.S. REPLY TO ALLIES.
The text of the United Statca femo- randum--which, it is understood, was dispatched before the submarine raid off the American coast-in reply to that of the Allies regarding the treatment of contains the following essential pas- belligerent submarines in neutral ports
sages:--
In the opinion of the Government of the United States the Allied Powers have not set forth any circumstances, nor is the Government of the United States at present aware of any circumstances, con- of war or merchant Here weerning the use
submarines which would render the existing rules of international law in- applicable to them.
The whole matter is as simple as the action of the German submarine coar mander is incomprehensible. have a Dutch ship carrying a carge of grain owned, bought, and paid for by the Government of the Netherlands which the Germans have sunk deliberately and according to instructions. which is absolutely clear does not need Testimony amplification.
"The submarine fired a warning shot at the Banimersdijk at 6 o'clock in the evening and a few moments later the first officer, Johannis Klassen, put of in a small boat and was rowed to the submarine. He showed all the ship's papers to the commander of the sub to sink you; we give you 28 minutes to marine, who said merely, We are going get the crew into the boats, Klassen pointed out to the German commander that the Blommeradijk was a neutral ship bound from an American port to Dutch port with a cargo owned by and consigned to the Dutch Government. My instructions are, the German com- mander rejoined, to sink your ship'
There was more to be said. Klassen returned to the Blommersdijk, and a short afterwards the ercw were taken destroyer Benham. The Germana placed on board the United States
At 8 o'clock they apparently torpedoed Blommersdijk, but failed to sink her, two bombs in the forward huld of the
her, for there was a loud explosion, and a few minutes later the ship sank.
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The vessel was valued at about £300,000 and the cargo at £100,000. The cargo con aisted es to 95 per cent. of grain, and as to & per cent, of motor-ears and acces- aories cousigned to the Netherlands. Overses Trust.
TEMPER. BISING IN BOLLAND.
and warning of the Allied Powers In view of this fact and of the notice
acknowledgment it is incumbent on the announced in their memoranda under Government of the United States to notify, the Government of France, Great Britain, Russin, and Japan that, so fan as the treatment of either war or mer- chant submarines in American waters in concerned, the Government of the United States reserves ita liberty af action in all respects and will treat such action of a Fower which may be said to vessels in its opinion becomes the have taken the first step towards estab- lishing the principles of neutrality and which for over a century has maintained those principles in the traditional spirit and with the high sense of impartiality in which they were conceived.
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In order, however, that there should be no misunderstanding on to the attitude of the United States the Government of the United States announces Allied Powers that it holds it to be the between submarines of neutral and duty of belligerent Powers to distinguish
arise between belligerent warships and responsibility for any conflict that may belligerent nationality, and that the
neutral submarines on account of the neglect of a belligerent so to distinguish between these classes of submarines must rest entirely upon the negligent Power.
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for punee. He was not sure the expres sion was securate; but if we had reduced the Germans to that condition. why taunt them with it? Let us rather see if we could not take steps to accept their dis- inclination to go on. We were to fight Greek Government by the French Com
The presentation of the Note to the to a finish. Surely the finish had come mander-in-Chief of the Allied Fleet has when the enemy was ready to concede the not caused in Athens the emotion or objects for which we entered upon the surprise which might have been expected war. He subscribed to the Prime Minis in ordinary circumstances. The removal ter's statement of our objects in the way from the Greek feet of officers of known including the statement that our end Entente sympathies and the substitution would not be attained until the mili of others who profess anti-Entente ideas tary domination of Prussia has been was a matter of common knowledge. wholly and entirely destroyed. But When this was followed recently by the surely Prussian militarism would be beginning of a concentration in Thessaly erushed when the German Empire was in rear of the Allied Armies of troops, made to see that it did not pay, when guns, stores, and material from Athena they discovered that by the brutal use of and elsewhere, it was generally under-indignation of the Dutch at the sinking It is impossible to exaggerate the armed force Germany was unable to ob stood that the governing powers of Greece of the Blommeridijk by a tain that which was not justly hera. I would certainly provoke a counter-move- submarine (says The Times special car last month, declared that the United
German peace could be made to-morrow on terms ment by the Allies to maintain the respondent at Amsterdam). This small States was as ready to fight as any nation President Wilson, in a speech at Omaha conceding the objects for which we entered security of their forces on the Macedonian country, so long suffering under count in the world, but the cause must be just upon the war and insisting that Germany front: should enter a league of peace of nations, Allies, enemies, and neutrals, surely examples of Rapel and Kavala should so limits of patience have been reached by not interested, not because she was in It was too much to expect that the from Germany, feels that the extreme the present conflict not because she was
less provocations, injuries, and insults and important. America bad hold off TJIKINI Prussian militarism would have been as soon have been forgotten, and people are the latest achievement of her powerful different, but because the part she wanted effectually crushed as anyone could desire. not surprised to learn from the French He hoped we should be ready to welcome Admiral's Note that on this occasion eastern neighbour. anyone from the Old World or the New precautionary measures are taken in who could come to us with a message of time.
The German commander's explanation to play was different from that ordinarily that he had been instructed to sink all played by a nation at war. The roots peace and show that it was possible by: The allusion in our Special Corres ships calling at British ports is regarden and its objects had not been dis of the European conflict wore still peaceful diplomacy to attain the great pondent's message to the beginning of a ed as the last straw. The German losed. Mr. Wilson continued: objects for which great sacrifices had been concentration in Thessaly of troops, guns, policy, however, is not new. It will be made.
and stores in the rear of the Allied remembered that The Times stated on When we exert force this nation will Armies evidently indicates (says The March 22nd that reports were current for America's force should be held to want to know what we are exerting it Times) the reason for the Allied demand that Berr Ballin had informed two Mr. Lloyd George-I confess that that the Pirans-Larissa railway should be members of the Holland America Line fight not merely for the rights of pro- the urst part of the speech of the bon placed under Allied control. The security that it was Germany's policy to prevent perty or national ambition. When you member for the Hexham Division (of the Allied forces at Salonika required all traffic between the United Kingdom are asked. are you not willing to fight, Holt) seems absolutely inconsistent with thar this concentration of troops and war and the latter part.
European He approves of the material should not. by some unfortunate nentral or not. The Dutch Press unly something worth fighting for. You are countries, whether reply Yes, but that you are wa ting for Prime Minister's declaration that to misunderstanding," share the fate of the gives utterance to the national anger the intricacies of which are written all peace should be made unless conditious Creek troops at Kavelna which
looking for that sort of quarrel within of a very thorough and drastic character mysteriously "kidnapped" by the enemy.to-day: What does the Dates Govern the texts of the rights of man. You 27
were when it says, as the flandelsblad does have frst been established, and that the end for which we are fighting shall hure
thent think of doing in reply to this looking for some chase that will elevat been attained. But, if I may say 80,
ALL MEN WANTED UNDER 30, serious threatsning of our existence 1 your spirit and not depress it, some NETH. I think the second part of his speech was
We do not speak of the humiliation of cause in which it seems a glory to shed more sincere from his point of view. 11 A: the think it indicates the real meaning and Tribunal sitting at Northampton, Capt. merchant feet. After referring to the can be sealed with the blood of. free
Northamptonshire Appeal our flag, or the outrage done to our
human blood if that be necessary, 80 that all the common compacts of liberty purpose for which the bon. gentleman S. H. S. Cook, military representative, destruction of the Fulantia, the Palem wade his speech here to day. His objec said that military representatives had bang, and the Berkelstroom, the Handelsmer tion to my interview was not to its been instructed to appeal against exemplnd asks if the Government will "again world to understand that the United In conclusion, the President wisher the Language, not even, perhaps, though there tions granted to mien under 30 years of shrug its shoulders," and, with an exStates was ready to use all her forces might be something in that, to the fact that I said it; what he objects to 'is the age. All fit men under 30, he added. tremely strong protest against Germany's to maintain the peace of mankind.
arbitrary act, says:
Pair
MINISTERIAL DECLARATIONS · IDENTIČNA
must serve.
entitled even outside his Department to
"Will the Government take no measures
GERMAN MEDALS.
the whole pith and purport of that in- terview is that we are not going to give. in until we have crushed Frussian mili
of reprisal against German property after. arism. (Cheers.)
this completely illegal and unjust attack I should like to know what is bis obje talk about the policy of the Government. Netherlands property Should we tion. My declaration was this that weIt is the first time I have heard it laid not, in order to be armed against every should tolerate no
down that a Cabinet Minister when he possibility, make a beginning by at least intervention until
The curators of the British Museum Prussian military despotism is broken speaks is not to make a speech which is putting a few thousands of German have now a complete collection of Scha- beyond repair. What is the declaration not elrictly departmental. I am to talk spies over the frontier, das preventing deafreude Medala issued in Germany to of the Prime Minister We shall not about the Departuren of the Quartermasthem from helping to consume the grain Comemorate the greatest acts of say make peace until the military dominn ter-General--how to make breeches in which escapes German submarines, and agery. The Lusitania Medal was the most ting of Prussin is willy and finally Pimlico (Laughter.) That is a topic thus, too, showing that the Dutch will official lie is that no such medal was popular one, although Germany's greatest. destroyed." I any.
broken beyond e-which I am to speak upon, but I am tiever not accept everything complacently? the Prime Minister says, "I to travel outside my Department. Bul The Socialist paper Het Volk says that issued to celebrate London's destruction ever struck. Another in the collection was minst be wholly destroyed." What is the may I suggest that after all it is some it is impossible to regard the torpedoing by Zeppelins difference (Cheers.) I simply elaborat thing to do with my Department whether of the flammersdijk otherwise than as an all joy medals struck in Germany was An illustrated eatalogue ed in my own language the declaration there is going to be intervention, and by hostile ass towards both Holland and the ahtained from Berlin in January this which had been made by the Prime Mini whom, and an arrest of the fight at the United States. ler, uot once or twice, or three times, but moment when we are gripping the enemy /
your, the list then totalling Gifteen. repeatedly, and by the French Prime than a diplomatic matter.
(Cheers.) 1 is much more a military it receives the report from a German According to the Tyd--which says that Minister a few weeks before in the great tially a military matter.
It is essen- Intervention Aource which has previously furnished speech which he delivered in the French Chamber, and I can very well leave it now would be a triumph for Germany accurate information German sub- with the brilliant peroration which the military triumph, a war triumph. In marine action on the sea routes to Prime Minister delivered to-day, which tervention would be for us a military American ports is based on a is a complete and authoritative answer to disaster. Has the Secretary for War no system of supplies. Besides large all those who have been trying to show that right to express an opinion on what submarines of a wholly new type, which my statement was a declaration made would be a military disaster 1 That is can carry their own supplies for journeys without consulting my colleagues and what I did, and I do not withdraw lasting for weeks, submarines of old type speaking for myself alone. It is a pure single syllable. (Loud cheers.) It was invention, and I cannot believe that any essential. I could tell the hon. member of my colleagues would tell correspon how timely it was. It was not merely the dents what had been said at a Cabinet expression of my own opinion, ba the meeting.
expression of the opinion of the Cabinet, of the War Committee, and of our mili tary advisers, It was the opinion of every Ally. (Cheers.).
new
can now operate far from their base, thanks to the employment of submarine supply vessels, built in the form of her cantile submarines, which can, furnish supplies at stated places and hours in
mid-ocean.
GREMAN DEFENCE OF THE RAID
INTERVENTION A GERMAN TRIUMPH. C Now I come to the language: It was not a speech, it was not a letter; it was an interview. An interview is a public
MEN WHO HOWL WITH THE ENEMY. A semi-ucial telegrain from Berlin report of 2 private conversation. I can understand men who conscienti-referring to the activities of the Uss, (Laughter.) Well, I do not know how ously object to all war. I can understand says that the commercial war off the my hon, friend speaks in private. Sure-men who say that you will never redeem United States coast is being conducted ly he does not address his friends in humanity except by passive endurance of according to the German prize regula private as bo speaks in an assembly if every evil. I can understand men, tions, which lay down that a merchant he docs, God help his friends. (Langh although I do not appreciate the strength ship, after it has been held up and ter.) come to the third point, which I think approve of this particular war, and it safety, may, under certain conditions. So much for language. Now I of their arguments, who say they do not searched and the passengers placed in is the real objection of my hon. friend requires courage on their part to say so, be sunk These conditions are, for It is not that the policy is wrong: the But what I cannot understand, what I can example, that the vessel is an enemy policy is that of the Prime Minister, not appreciate, and what I cannot respect ship, or a neutral ship carrying con- which has been repeated over and over is men who preface their speechor by saying traband, and that the military situation again. I almost repeated the very words they believe in the war, its origin and excludes the possibility of taking the which he used. The poling has been its object, and who during the time, the vessel to harbour as a prise, proclaimed time after time. I proclaim enemy was in the ascendant never asid a ed no new policy. The objection is that word about peace, and then, the moment American authorities fear that the sub In regard to the report that the it was done by me and should not have when our gallant troops are climbing marine operations may be equivalent to been done by me. True, I am Cabinet through endurance and suffering up the & blockade because they are being carried Minister, and Cabinet Minister is path to ascendancy, begin to howl with
(Continued at foot of next Column.) the enemy. (Load cheers.)
(Continued at foot of nest Column)
bat so acar the American coast, the telegram says: .......
The German naval forces have a right to wage cruiser warfare in the open sea everywhere, and the territorial waters of There can, of course, be no question of neutral States are carefully respected. a blockade, because only enemy ships or neutral ships laden with contraband are held up, and the essence of a blockade lies in treating as prises without con sideration of/2g or cargo all vessels making for the blockaded coast or leaving The telegrain appears to ignore altogether the case of the Dutch steamer Blominersdijk.
ME ROOSEVELT ON THE SITUATION, The situation created by the operations of submarines off Nantucket is dealt with in a drastic statement by Mr. Roosevelt,
tionary ostrich-policy for the United
ho 3876- "The time for an ostrich-an elocu
States has passed. War stares at us from just beyond the three-mile limit, and we face it without a policy, plan, purpose, or preparation,”
Germany's action. Mr. Roosevelt attri declaring that the United States would butes to the fact that Mr. Wilson, after stand as the champion of the rights of neutrals, has deserted the neutral pations and left them leaderless and a prey to the belligerents."
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