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A meeting of the Hongkong Legislative Council

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The following wers present:-

119 EXCELLENCY THE GOVERNOR, STH FRANCIS HENRY MAY, K.C.M.G.

H18 EXCELLENCY MAJOR-GENERAL F. VESTRIS (General Officer Commanding Froops in China).

BDAY. ANGEST 4TH, 1916.

(d.)--Tobacco, cigars and cigarettes valued at, less than $1.00 per ib. and not less than $110 per lb- $0.20 per 1b.

(e.)--Tobacco, cigars And cigarettes valued at less than $1.10 per lb. and not less than 60 cents per lb.- $0.20 per lb. (1.)---Tobacco, cigars and cigarettes of any other kind not herein otherwise provided for--20:10 per Di” The ATTORNEY-GENERAL seconded,

H18 EXCELLENCY--As was not unnatural in a free port, when we came to deal with the taxing of an article like tobeco we were working,, more or less, in the dark. Therefore, it is not surprising: and I think hon members will agree it is not surprising--that we should have had to modify she rates of duty. The reasons for the modification are that we Inid, inadvertently, too heavy a hand on the cheapest form of cigarettes, and

*** | indeed. I believe, given satisfaction to

these interested in the matter, in re- moving that rather severe penalty on the smoke of the Chinese coolie. I how beg to move that the resolution which has been proposed and seconded be adopted.

2). The resignations of Sisters.

For how many months such increase of Staff was in force, and also Craddock, Bone, and Astin were received (ii) Whether it is not the fact that, on by the Principal Civil Medical Officer in the date of the Inst meeting of the May, 1915, and were immediately report Commeil, when the above answer witsed by him to the Government.

(ii). The question of filling the vacancies, which would occur on the retirement of Sisters Evor- ingham and Wood after their probationary period, was refer- red by the Principal Civil Medt- cal Officer to the Government in June, 1915.

given, out of the 14 Sisters on the Goternment Nursing, Staff in the Estimates for 1918 (exclusive of the 2 Sisters on the Private Nursing Staff) there were Sisters only in the Colony then available for duty. of whom 3 bad then already-en- pleted 4 years of Service? 8.--With roference to the following! portion of the answer given to my ques- Lion 2 at the last meeting of Council,

amely

Daring the period January, 1913, 10 June, 1918, inclusive the Nursing Staff in the Colony has been below the number borne on the Estimates during months. It has been equal to or in excess of that number during 30 months,!'

Hon. Mr. CLAUD SEVERN. (Colonial these new duties are designed, and have will the Government state

Becretary).

Hon. Mr. J. H. KEMP (Attorney General);

Hon. Mr. E. D." C. Worë (Coloniál Treasurer).

Hon Mr. E. R. HALIFAX (Secretary for Chinese Affairs).

Hou. Mr. W. CHATHAM, C.M.G. (Director ef Public Works).

Hon. Mr. C. McL. MESSER (Captain Superintendent of Police).

Hon. Mr. Wer Yux, C.MG.

Hon. Mr. H. E. POLLOCK, K.C.

Hon. Mr. E. SHELLIK,

Hon. Mr. D, LANDALE

Hon Bt. LÂU CHU PAE.

Flon. Mr. P. H. HOLYCAR.

Mr. A, G, M. FLETCHER (Clerk of Coun- 15).

MINUTES.

The minutes of the previous meeting Were confirmed.

PAPERS

The COLONIAL TREASURER, by command of H.E. the Governor, laid on the table report of the proceedings of the Public. Works Committee held on July 27th and it was adopted.

The COLONIAL SECRETALY, by command of I. E. the Governor, also laid upon, the. table dhe Medical and Sanitary reports for the year 1915, the report of the Diree- tor of Education for 1915, and a diagram of the low level dam ander construction at Tytam Tuk, showing the progress (up) to Jine 20th; 1918.

FINANCE.

By command of the Governor, the Colonial Secretary laid on the table Financial Minutes Nos. 19 to 16, and moved that they be referred to the Fin- ance Committee.

The COLONIAL TREASURER Conded, and

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The COLONIAL SECRETARY, by commaal of HE the Governor, Inid on the table report of the proceedings of the Finance. Committee N. 5. and moved that it.be adopted.

The COLONIAL TREASURES Seconded," and this was agreed to.

NURSING SISTERS IN THE P.M.S.

The COLONIAL SECRETARY, by cojunilad of H.E. the Governor, Taid in the table the following correspondence regarding. the supply of Nursing Sisters in the Straits Settlements and Federated Malay

States:

1916-

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The resolution was then put to the meeting and unanimously carried.

GOVERNOR'S REPLY TO KON MR. POLLOCK'S

QUESTIONS.

The Hon. Mr. FOLLOCK then put the following questiong standing in his

Rame to..

1.Is the Principal Civil Medical Officer responsible for :"

(i) The accuracy of the statements of

faet which are contained in thei Answers to my Questions in Commeil concerning Government Hospital matters, and also for

(ii) Recommending to the Government the mumber of Sisters which is necessary for the efficient working: of the Government Hospitals, with- out posing undue strain or work on the Sisters, and also for (iii) Infosening the Government in good time beforehand that Sisters will be completing their 4 years of Ber- vice in the Colony, so that steps may be taken, in plenty of time in advance. insure that, so far as possible, Sisters shall be able to: take long leave on the expiration of their 4 years of Service in the Colony?

2-Did the Principal Civil Medical Officer know, when the Estimates for the Government Staff at the Hospitals for 1916 were prepared :---

(1) That Sisters Craddock, Bone and Astin had recently resigned from The Service, and had not been re placed; and

(9) That Sisters Everingham and Wood would shortly be completing their 3 years' term of Bervice with the Government and

(3) That Sister Millington would be. retiring from the Service in 1918, that the following Sisters during the course of 1916.

complete their 4 years of Service in

12

(6) When did the period or periods of tine occur. making up the said 12 months during which the Govern ment admits that the Nursing-Staff in the Colony has been below the namber borne on the Extiniales ? And will the Government state by how many during each of such periods suck Nursing Staff has been below the number on the Estimates? (ii) When did the period or periods of time, in the said 30 months, occur during which the Nursing Staff is alleged by the Government to have been in excess of the numbers horne on the Estimates, and by how many Sisters is it alleged that the Nursing Staff was in excess of the numbers on the Estimates during ary.

and what portion of such period or periods? (iii) When did the period or periods of time in the said 30 months occur during which the Government alleges that the Nursing Staff wae equal to the numbers borne on the Estimates?

(i) (a). At the date when the Est- mates for 1916 were prepared three were grounds for anticipat- ing that Sister Millington would remain, in the Servion until the end of the war. Miss Milling- tou decided in October that she would retire in April or May, 1910, and the Principal Civil Medical Officer reported to this effect forthwith, asking that im- mediate steps might be taken to fill the prospective vacancy. (b). The Principal Civil Medical Offcer reported on the 11th, August, 1915, that Sisters GoT- ham and Barlow wished to take long leave early in 1016. He the same time stated that three other Sisters would complete a period of four years' service in 1916, In the summer of 1915 Dr. Johnson put very fully and clear- ly before the Government the necessity for making provision. for the filling of vacancies and the grant of long leave. 3.--The honourables members is' appare ently under a misapprehension.. Estimate provision was made

In the wander for two on a 1918

Kennedy Town Hospital Sisters, one on a dollar and one sterling salary The 1915 and Estimates provide for two Sisters, both ou a sterling salary; but the 1915 Eati- mates show also, nirler the 1914 ecluinn, the dollar salary which lapsed at this. end of 1014.

(iv) For how many months and during what months of what years, during the said period January, 1913, to Hon. Mr. PoLLOCK-That is noi, so. June, 1913, was the same Sister

ILis Excellency proceeded; — attending to maternity cases at the

4. As suggested by the Colonial same time as she was attending to Secretary that

a system of Chinese other cases in either A or B Black!

dressers, on

the lines of a system of Is it admitted by the Government native dressers which had worked most that such a course of procedure was satisfactorily in hospitals for Asiatic undesirable? Was not such a course patients in the Federated Malay Stare, of procedure owing to a short should be given a trial in the Asiatic Sisters available for nursing duty!! (v) Is it not the fact that during the wards of the Government Civil Hospital. This is the case. The late Mr. said period January, 1918, to June, Hewett said that probationer dress 95, 1916. The Staff of Sisters available although they are very useful, cannot for duty was so short that different possibly take the place of Nurses. This Sisters were obliged at different Government on the other hand is of the times to go on duty, when they opinion that properly trained dresse were so seriously indisposed as to can and should take over a large part be in fact unfit for taking duty of the duties of European Nurses in by reason of their suffering severely wards for Asiatic patients. Arrangements from diphtheria, gallstones, boils, have recently been made for Japanese acute sore throat, and dysentery t

Staff Nurses and probationer Nurses to With reference to the following part take charge of the Asiatic wards in B. the answer of my Question 5 at the Block at the Government Civil Hospital B-Probationer dressers are engaged on last meeting of Commeil, namely.

For 10 years past one Sister has

a probationary period of six years. They supervised the nursing on two floors in

are required to pass an examination at a similar manner,'

end second, third, and the fact that for several, and,

of

the sud of the Blus Book record of the Colony, namely. Sisters if so, for how many and what months changes in the Staff of dressers is cor- during the said period January, 1913, torvet. Grent difficulty was at first experi- June, 1916, inclusive there has been one enced in ugaging a suitable class of Sister or duty on each floor of A Block, man, but now that the system is better during morning and afternoon duty!

understood it is hoped that heter 30. With reference to the following material will becane available, part of the answer to my Question 5 at the last meeting of the Council...

“There are 48 beds in the four public Wards in A Block. The number of oc cupied beds in A Block, including the Private Wards, averaged during April, May. and Jure 372, 30%, and 371 respectively

7.). The Staff of Nursing Bistoks was increased in November, 1914. It was at full strength up to and including May, 1915.

Gorham, Barlow, 'Barrow, Kelsey, and Sloan! If the Principal Civil Medical Officer Extract from a letter from the Prin-sew the above facts, did he communicate them or some and if so which of them to cipal Civil Medical Officer, Straits Settle-

the Government 1 ments, to the Principal Civil Medical

Is the Principal Civil Medical Officer, Hongkong, dated the 14th July, Officer responsible for the fact that the I have only managed to obtain one fail to disclose the fact that, in addition Notes appended to the Estimates for 1916

(ii). Out of the fourteen Bisters nurse since war and we have had three

to the reduction of 2 Sisters in the We

shown in the Estimates, for 1916 in order for some long time past, get all ours through the Colonial Staff, to be replaced by 8 Probationer

eight were in, the Colony avail- 'Dressers "(which is noted in footnote (6) four. except Nursing Association.

able for duty at the date men- __Liuned.—‚£ that dute they had Thews at proniole frons amongst then page 6 of these Estimates) there is it not the fact that the work is yet

"the temporary assistance of four harder for the Sister in 8 Block than: probationers. Certainly two of these four also a reduction of a third Sister, as are our very best nurses and especiallypared with the Estimates for 1915, for the Sister in A Block, owing us the

ladice, one fully and threw par“ reduction ocenering under thei

tially trained, Of the eight melut do account of knowing the following sub-heading of the Estimates, constant stream of patients coming in

Sisters referred to three had-comp- and it of that Block and owing to their lngunges

pleted four years service. Of Extract from a letter from the Prin-namely Kennedy Town Hospital "?

Did the Principal Civil Medical Offer being more patients to attend to Will cial Medical Officer, Federated Malay point out to the Government, and, if so.

these one has now gone, on leave the Government state, how many beds States, to the Principal Civil Medical when, that the Estimates for 1910 proit the Frivate Wards, and what was the there are in B Block, including the beds

and the remaining two propose in saif on the 9th and 30th Officer, Hongkong, dated the 18th July: vided for a reduction of 3 Sisters in the

August respectively. 8.--(1) (ii) (iii). The words The Government Nursing Stuff, as compared average number of bels occupied in B Block, including the Private Wards, 4-Did the Principal Civil Medical during each of the months April. May. Nursing Staff in the Colony" in the Oficer reconimgad to the Government June, July, August, and September for reply to the second question put by the that, for the year 1915, 8 Probationer each of the years 1914 and 1915 respec-honourable member on the last occasion Dressers should be employed, at the tively, and during April, May, and June, Sisters? If the answer to the above Government Civil. Hospital instead of 21916; respectively

11-With reference to the statement, question is in the negative, what Goy made in answer to my Question 4 at the erament Officer is responsible for the last mecing of Council, as follows:--

It is not the case that short leave, making of such suggestion?

granted to Sisters has to be taken out- side of the Colony,"

1916:--

"We are not getting nurses from England to fill our vacancies, We have been very hard pressed indeed lately. Help was given by the resignation of a nurse belonging to a private associa From the Colonial Secretary, Hong kong, to the Colonial Secretary. Singa-

tion who was taken Ù...

pore:

with the Eatinates for 19157

Is it not the fact that on the 28th

should have been The Nursing Staff employed by the Colony." The mistake, which arose through the misreading of a return furnished from the Government Civil Hospital is regrelled. The exact position is as follows:-Throughout 1913 the and 1914 provision was made in Estimates for hfteen Sisters. Frone

29th July, 1916. Si, I am directed to request that you will be good enough to inform me what is the number of Sisters which the Oetober last, the late Mr. E. A. Hewett, has any Rule or Regulation ever been January to June, 1913, Afteen Sisters

speaking in Council on Unofficial Members, expressed their op

namely:

PRÓBATLÖNER DRESSERS.

Li King po, appointed 1st July. Chan Wang-shang, appointed 1st July,

resigned 31st August. Wong Ink, appointed 1st September,

resigned 15th October. Chan Tak-loi, appointed 16th October. Chan Canen, appointed 1st July, re-

signed 31st October. Leung Ying, appointed 1st November. Chan Hoi-chuen, appointed 1st July,

resigned same date.

WAK on leave,

has been able to engage (a) through the position to the substitution of & Proba Regulation ever

was it made, and has any such Rule or ment and two of these were on leave. Colonial Nursing Association ortioner Dressers for 2 Nurses?

been notified to the From July to October, 1913, fifteen

Sisters were employed of whom one was otherwise for -Service in Governmeut For what period of time are such Sisters, and, if so, when 1 Hospitals in the Straits Settlements

12.Are there not now 2-Chinese Ward-on leave. In November, 1913, sixteen since the outbreak of war, and the date Probationer Dressers engaged! Are they

not constantly changing? Does not the masters employed at the Government Sisters were employed of whom one was From December, 1013, to upon which each of the Sisters, if any. Blue Book for 10th (at pages J 134-8) Civil Hospital in the place of 2 Euro-on leave. was engaged.--I ani, cte..

June, 1014, fifteen. Sisters were employed, 'contain the following Record with regard

pean Wardmasters.? (Signed) Craun SEVERS,

to Probationer Dressers, at the Govern

13. Was there not for some months, of whom one was on leave. In July and Colonial Secretary.

ment, Civil Hospital, who were engaged and, if so, during what months, in the September, 1914, sixteen Sisters were From the Colonial Secretary, Hang- kong, to the Lader Secretary, Federated to take the place of the said Sisters, Years 1914, 1815, and 1916, a shortage of employed of whom one was on leave. In drugs and disinfectants in the Govern- August, 1914, fifteen Sisters were employ- Malay States

ment Civil Hospital? Is not the Prined, of where one 29th July, 1918.

cipal Civil Medical Officer responsible October, 1914, fifteen Sisters were in the Su-1 am directed to request that you

for the ordering of a sufficient quantity Colony. In November and December, will be good enough to inform me what

of drugs and disinfectants for use in the 1914, eighteen Sisters were in the Colony. is the number of Sisters which the Gov

Government Hospitals!

In 1815 provision was made for eighteen ernment of the Federated Malay States]

of Asiatic Sisters. Eighteen were in the Colony 14.-Is not the clothing. has been able to engage (a) through the

patients in the Government Civil Hos- from January to May; seventeen were Colonial Nursing Asociation or (5)

pital changed only once a week? Has employed and were in the Colony in otherwise for service in Government

not the Principal Civil Medical Officer June; fifteen were employed and were in Hospitals in the Federated. Malay States.

sent round Minutes to the Sisters, urging the Colony from July to September; and" since the oubreak of war, and the date

that the Washing Bill should be kept as fifteen were employed, one of whom was apon which each of the Sisters, if any,

low as possible? Is it not the fact that leave, from October to December, was engaged.I am ete. :

Sisters have experienced a difficulty in In 1916 provision was made for sixteen

Sisters. In January sixteen were em:" procuring sufficient clean clothing and clean bedding for the patients in the ployed, of whom one was on leave. In anid Hospital?

February and March fourteen were em- ployed, of whom one was on leave. In HIS EXCELLENCY replied as follows: April and May thirteen were employed of L-(i) (ii). The Government takes the whom two were on leave. In June twelve responsibility for the accuracy of state-were employed of whom two were on ments of fact; it also takes the respon- Fleave.. sibility for providing a sufficient staff (iv) There is no record of the for the efficient working of the Govern-

Maternity Hospital being sepa- ment Hospitals.

rated from the general hospital until August, 1918, when a Bister was temporarily engaged to take charge of the maternity hospital. She was assisted by a probationers nurse, or by one of the Privat Nursing Staff when available. A Sister on duty in the General” “ Hospital continued to take charge of the maternity cases at night. From October, 1914, the Mater. nity Hospital has been entirely

(Signed) CLAUD SEVERN,

Colonial Secretary. NEW TOBACCO DUTIES.

The COLONIAL SECRETARY proposed the following resolution under Section 7 of the Tobacco Ordinance, 1916: Re: solved that the duties imposed on tobacco, under Section 6 of the Tobacco Ordi nance, 1916 shall cease to be payable as from the 28th day of July, 1916, and that

MACGREGOR&Co. the following duties shall be substituted

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therefor:

(2) Cigars valued at not less than $2.20 per lb. and snuff of whatever value $1.50 per lb. ..... b.)-Cigars valued at less than $2.20

Tsang Put-ting, appointed 6th July,

resigned 15th December. Kwok Po-sum, appointed 16th Decem

ber.

Li Shu-nam, appointed 1st July, re-

signed 30th September. Benjamin Young, appointed 1st Octo-

ber.

Chan Man-chung, appointed 1st July,

resigned same date,

Cheuk Bui-bud, appointed 9th - July, 7-With reference to that part of the 1.-(1). The Government is respon- statement made by the Government, insible for the masking of the necessary ar- answer to my question a (i) at the last rangements to enable Sisters to take long meeting of the Council, which reads as leave. Bisters, in common with all other follows:-

Officers in the Service, are required to "The Staff was increased, and it is give nine months' notice of their inten- that suitable

per lb. and not less than $1.60 Ponsidered that the present establishuhent,tion to apply for long leave, "in order,"

Ib-80.70 per b. (c)-Tobacco and cigarettes valued at

when at full strength, is ample for purto quote the regulation, not as than $1.00 per lb-80.70 poses of granting customary leave of arrangements for the Public Service as

absence" will the Government state a whole may be devised."? Liper 3b:

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