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HONGKONG · LEGISLATIVE {great,
COUNCIL.
A aceta if the Hongkong Legislative Council was held yesterday at the Coun-
⚫cil Chamber.
THE HONGTONG BATI Y PRESS FRIDAY NOVEMBER 1ST, 141%;
HIS EXCELLENCY THE GENERAL-İ - an
But the public are earnestly when, as no doubt will be the case in al requested to exercise strict economy in the consumption of water. I can only add, gentlemen, that I hope that these precautions will in the ovent not be rendered necessary. Judging from the present outlook, it is absolutely Decanary for us to take early mensirea to conserve
The following were present: II18 EXCRIUENCY The Governor, Bin F. the water supply. B. MAY, K.C.M.G.
HTH EXCELLENCY THE GENERAL OFFICER COMMANDING Tar Troops, Colonel C. W. ST. JOHN
Hop, Mr. CLAUD SEVERN (Colonial See. retary)
Hon. Mr. J. A. S. BUCKHILL (Attorney General).
Hon. Mr. A. M. THOMSON (Colonial Treasurer).
PINANCIAL MINUTES.
The COLONIAL SECRETARY, by command of His Excellency the Governor, laid on the table Financial Minutes Nos. 54 to 55, and moved that they be referred to the
Finance Committee.
The COLONIAL TREASURER seconded, and the motion was agreed to.
FINANCIAL.
title I have forgotten at the moment. It is very necessary that we should be able to consult on occasion with the Crown Solicitor.
HIS EXCELLENCY-If those who object to this clauso push their argument to its logical conclusion, then the Government. ought not to have a private solicitor. They ought to employ an outsider. It is conceivable that a department might not wish to consult a private practitioner, but would wish to consult a government department. We are all servants of the Crown. It is really all one business.
Hon. Sir Ka Ho KA-It is not merely consulting.
It is also appearing in Court.
HONGKONG GOLF CHAMPION- SHIP.
FIRST ROUND.
SECOND ROUND. Mr. R. O. Hutcheson beat Mr. C. T. Boath by 3 and 2.
Dr. Lindsay Woods, walk-over. Mr.
Major Caulfield beat Major Waring. A. H. Ferguson scratched.
Mr. K. M. Cumming beat Mr. J. L. Crockatt by 4 and 3.
A. Mr. E. Davidson beat Mr. M. Murray by 1 and 2.
Mr. R. M. Smith beat Mr. A. Ritchio by 3 and 2.
Mr. A. W. W. Walkinshaw beat Mr. G. S. Archbutt.
comparatively short space of time, the very glad that this clause is being insert- relations are such that extradition begins ed. At Home wo are directed not to The first and second rounds have been again, the time of the Crown Solicitor will again be very fully occupied with go outside for legal advice. In England! those proceedings. The Crown Solicitor's we have the Treasury Solicitor, in Ire-played and resulted as follows:- work will be enlarged very considerably land the Chief Crown Bolicitor, and in Mr. C T. Beath beat Mr. J. T. by this Bill, and with the work which Seatinnd we have another official whose McMurtrie by 6 ward 5. he now does which in practically the whole of the Solicitor's work of the Crown-it does not appear to the that the Naval or Military Authorities' work will ho capable of being undertaken in the ordinary way by the Crown Solicitor him- self. Now, Sir, in the case of a firm, of course, the position of a firm with regard to being able to cope with a large quantity of extra work is quite different to officials in a particular department. And, therefore, if it be found that the work so proposed to the Crown Solicitor by the Naval and Military Authorities can- not be undertaken, and I go so far na The COLONIAL SECRETARY laid on the to say if it be inconvenient in any way Bon. Mr. W. CHATHAM, C.M.G. (Dirceable the report of the Finance Committee for the Crown Solicitor or the Assistant Crown Solicitor to take it, no doubt (No. 11), and moved its adoption.
the consent of the Governor will tor of Public Works),
The COLONIAL TREASURER seconded, and not be given. Therefore, Sir, I do not think that this Sub-section 3 the motion was agreed to.
paragraph (a) of Sub-section I. of Clause III. of this Ordinance is actually going to have any effect on private prac titioners. In fact, I may say that I feel sure it will not. There is one other thing, and that is, that it does seem desirable. that such a power as this should be given to the Crown Solicitor, because there are Military Authorities might possibly have exceptional points which they might desire and as a Government Department might properly desire to put in the hands of another department of the Crown, and if something or other of this kind is not inserted apparently it would be impossible for this Government to render to the Military or Naval Authori- 2. Will the Government undertake the ties to the Crown any assistance which construction of a ricsha road from Samit might be desirable that they should. Hon. Mr. POLLOCK challenged a divi. Sui Po to Lai Chi Kok, in order to give have. Under these circumstances, Ision, and on the vote being taken, four BCCC3B to the Petroleum Installation, really do not think this clause is going supported the amendment and nine voted
to affect materially any privato prac against. Brewery, Quarantine Station (now used
titioners.
Council then resumed. as a Barracks) and bathing grounds in the vicinity!
Hon Mr. E. R. HALLIFAX (Registrar- General).
Hon. Captain F. J. BADELEY (Captain-| Superintendent of Police).
Hon. Sir Kat Ho Kai, M.D., Q.M.G. Hon. Mr. Wer YUK.
Hon. Mr. H. E, POLLOCK, K.C.
Hon. Mr. C. H. Ross.
"Hon. Mr. J. W. C. BONNAR..
Mr. R. H. CROFTON (Clerk of Councils).
MINUTES.
PAPER.
The COLONIAL SECRETARY, by command of H.E. the Governor, laid on the table the Report of the Director of Public
Works for 1011.
ROADS WANTED,
The ATTORNEY-GENERAL-It seems rather curious that the Attorney-General, who not be able to appear for the Admiralty is the legal officer of the Crown, should
or for the War Office.
Rev. Faster Pegg beat Mr. F. Suthor- land..
These two rounde produced little of an
and the results were pretty much in exceptional nature in the way of incident
sccordance with expectations.
THE THIRD ROUND,
One match has been played off in the
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The Hon. Mr. OSBORNE, in torms | circumstances in which the Naval and Authorities. It would be a curious post-third round-that between Mr. A. W. W. Wine and Provision Merchants.
notice asked:--
1-In view of the development now The minutes of the previous meeting proceeding at Sam Sui Pe and Ap.Lui and in view of the fact that these places were rend and approved.
are accessible to wheeled traffic for only part of the way, will the Government at an early date take steps to improve the communication to this district 7
THE WATER SUPPLY.
HIS EXCELLENCY-Before we proceed with the orders of the day I desire to make a short statement with your per
the necessity mission regarding
of It is economising the water supply. notessary to resort to some further means of conserving the available supply of water in order to tide over the dry season which has sot in. On the 21st instant, the reservoirs contained 452 million gallons and their contents had been depicted during the preceding week to the extent of 103 million gallons. If the present hours of supply (2 hours daily throughout the Rider Main Districts and constant supply elsewhere) be maintained, the rate of depletion will increase some what as the dry, season advances, and I
consider that it must be estimated at 23 million gallons per week. On this basis, the water in the reservoirs would last for 10 weeks from the 21st instant, or until the end of February. As the rains can- not be depended upon to commence before the middle of May next, it is necessary to adopt arrangements which will result in the available stock of water (452 million gallons) being distributed over a period of, say, 30 weeks. The rate of depletion of the reservoirs must therefore be reduced to 15 million gallons per week or, say, 2 million gallons per day. The streams, including those intercepted by the temporary pump near Tytam Inter- mediate Reservoir, can be depended upon to yield about 1 million gallons per day, "thus admitting of a daily supply of 3 million gallons. As the daily consurap- tion under constant supply amounts to a million gallons or 24 gallons per head pur day, the diminished supply (3 millions per day) would amount to 19
The COLONIAL SECRETARY replied:-- 1. It is at present possible to reach Shamsbuipo by jinrikishas. A scheme of thoroughfares for this district has been prepared, but reautaptions and readja- meats of numerous existing lots and con- siderable excavations and embankments must be made before the scheme can be The matter is being pro- carried out. ceeded with as circumstances permit. The existing communication by rond is con- sidered sufficient meanwhile.
Hon. Sir KAI HO KAI-There are occa- sions when the Government here are at loggerheads with the Naval or Military tion if the Attorney-General were to sup- port the Admiralty or the War Office Walkinshaw and the Rev. Foster Pegg.
This game took place on Wednesday against the Government.
forenoon and attracted considerable
HIS EXCELLENCY-This provision has been made at the request of the Imperial Government, and we cannot accept any alteration.
The question was put to the vote, and His Excellency declared that the Nocs" had it.
".
The motion was agreed to.
The ATTORNEY GENERAL moved that the Council then went into Cominittee to Bill be read a third time. consider the Bill élanso by clauso.
On clause 2,
1
Hon. Mr. PoLLOCK-There is a ques-
The COLONIAL SECRETARY Seconded, and the Bill was read a third time and passed. CHINA CONGREGATION CHURCH ORDINANCE.
attention, as both players were very much
fancied for premier honours. Mr. Walkinshaw's local handicap is plus 2. When last on leave he did remarkably well in big tournaments at Home and put "paid" to the account of many of the hottest favourites. There is a fino abandon about his play which appeals to the spectators. Over Fan Ling he has no equals, and a man must have a very large variety of shots in his bag to do the scores he has done over that course. Rev. Foster Pegg's local handicap is plus 1. He also enjoya a considerable reputation at Home as a golfer and figures as plus
Sunningdale, one of the foremost courses in England.
tion of principle in connection with Hon. Sir KAI Ho Kat moved the second this clause, and that is, one does not see reading of the Bill entitled, "An Ordi why there should be any difference be-nance to provide for the incorporation of tween the qualifications of the Crown the Church Body of the China Congregaat Solicitor and the Assistant Crown tional Church in Hongkong,' Solicitor. So far as I am aware, the only practical difference between the
Hon. Mr. Wa YUE seconded, and the qualifications in za and the qualifientions motion was agreed to. in ab are these that the Attorney-General referred to, that 2a shall have passed all his examinations and has also been at the expense of paying fees for admission to
as a Solicitor. I cannot see why it is the Bar as the case may be or enrolment
2. The construction of any road which can be regarded as permanent between the places named is too great a work to undertake at present and any temporary would involve a considerable road amount of bridging which would have to be discarded later. Communication will be improved as circumstances permit, considered sufficient that an assistant should have to pass all his examinations but there are other roads which are co without going to that expenditure and sidered of prior importance from a public that it should be considered necessary point of view to the one now anggested.
that the Crown Solicitor should have in THE CROWN SOLICITORS ORDINANCE, 1912
addition paid certain fees. This is not The ATTORNEY GENERAL moved the second merely an academic point, because it reading of a Bill entitled, "An Ordinance might come to pass that a certain gantle- was appointed Assistant Crown to make provision for the appointment of man and to define the powers of the Crown Solicitor who had passed all examina Solicitors and Assistant Crown Solicitorations without paying those expensive fees for actually becoming a member of the of the Colony."
profession, and then it might chance that the Crown Solicitor was promoted and the Government wished to promote the Assistent Crown Solicitor to be Crown If such a caso did arise, then the Assistant Crown Solicitor would have to pay certain heavy fees simply for the purpose of qualifying himself for the position of Crown Solicitor.
Solicitor.
Council then went into committee to
On Council resuming,
consider the Bill clauss by clause.
On Wednesday both players wore below their usual forn. Mr. Walkinshaw com- pleted the first 9 in 10 and at this stage he
9 stood "P, his Egures being Hon. Sir Kar Ho. Kai moved that the 14—4—3—6———4—4. The 10th he won, the 11th halved, and the 12th he won, Bill be read a third time.
This made him 5 up and 6 to play-truly
Hon. Mr. WEI YUK seconded, and the, Bill was read a third time and passed,
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a horrible position for Mr. Pegg. At the 13th, Mr. Pegg was on the edge of
Mr. Walkin Always have on hand a very large complete The ATTORNEY-GENERAL moved that the the green in 2 and out in 4. next order," The Vehicles and Traffic Re-shaw stort with bis 2nd put his 3rd about gulation Ordinance," be discharged until four feet from the hole, but missed the next meeting, as the regulations are not
pult. Going to the 14th, Mr. Pegg missed completed.
Agreed to.
his drive and was decidedly lucky not to find the bunkor on the left. This The COLONIAL SECRETARY Moved that the bole
absolute gift to Mr. Council go into Committes on the Bill Pegg, as Mr. Walkinshaw, after having entitled, "An Ordinance to authorize the all the best of matters, conveniently miss Appropriation of a further Sunniement ary Sum of twenty-eight thousand six ed a putt of a little over a foot hundred dollars and forty-five cents, to Walkinshaw 3 up and 4 to play. Going to the 16th, Mr. Pegg half-missed his defray the charges of the year 1911."
The COLONIAL TREASURER Acconded, and drive and got on the sand, while Mr. the motion was agreed to.
Walkinshaw got well away. Mr. Pegg On Council resuming, The COLONIAL SECRETARY moved that the cleared with his 2nd and proceeded to put his 3rd about 2 yards from the pin. Mr. Bill be read a third time.
The COLONIAL TREASURER seconded, and Walkinshaw's second was played perfectly
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gallona per head per day, which is rather petting in the present Ordinance which what I may call a major official, one of the Bill was read a third time and passed. and ought to have been about dead. As (T Squares, Bet Squares, Straight Edget,
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The ATTORNEY-GENERAL moved the third reading of the Bill entitled, "An Ordi- rance to apply a sum not exceeding seven million one hundred and sixteen thousand the Public Service of the year 1913." four hundred and fifty-four dollars to The COLONIAL TEASURER seconded, and HIS EXCELLENCY-Council will adjourn
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the hole in 3, but he unaccountably missed the short putt, which would have given. him the game. The match therefore was all square at the 18th and an extra hole had to be played. Mr. Pegg got away & just on to the Cricket ground, but was on good drive, Mr. Walkinshaw hooking his the green in 2 with a very good iron shot, Mr. Pegg was short with his second, but out in 4. Mr. Walkinshaw put his 3rd short put, which gave Mr. Pegg the apparently dead, but again missed &
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The COLONIAL SECRETARY REConded. The Hon. Mr. Potock-Sir, with re- ferencs to this Bill, I should like to make a few observations on it. My observa- tions will be confined to Sub-scetion 3 of Paragraph (a) of Sub-section I. of Clause III, of this Bill. The Sub-section in question enables the Crown Solicitor or Assistant Crown Solicitor, with the
The ATTORNEY GENERAL The answer is consent of the Governor, to give advice to the Naval and Military Authorities. quite simple. In the first place, there is It was stated by my hon. and learned a very marked distinction between the Solicitor aud the Assistant friend, the Attorney General, at the last Crown meeting of the Council that thero is Crown Solicitor. The Crown Solicitor is
it happened, his shot was treated very interferes with private practitioners' the higher officiala. He holds a respon-
badly. Landing on a bad patch, it shot more than the daily consumption in Kow practice or their rights. I am quite sure vible post, and it seems desirable that he bon under constant supply. No great my hon, and learned friend made that should be a man possessing all the quali- statement in absolute and perfect good fications of a legal practitioner. He is
off the line and finished up on the end hardship will therefore be inflicted faith, but, Sir, it has been pointed out sure to be an older and more experienced
of the green. Both players got down in 4, On the other hand, the Assistant
Mr. Pegg doing well in holing his putt. AGENTS FOR- the population by the proposed to me that in fact, as regards this parti- man.
ong of
with his second, Mr. Pegg's second being reduction in the daily supply, pro-cular clause in question, it has never Crown Soliciter is not a major post. If I
At the 16th, Mr. Walkinshaw was short been the practice of the Crown Solicitor may say so without any offence, it
on the edge of the green, the hole going vided such supply can be uniformly of this Colony in his capacity of Crown the minor posts in the service, It is held
drove into the ditch at the 17th, and distributed. There are thres alternative Solicitor to adviso Naval or Military by a younger and less experienced man. the Bill was read a third time and passed. to Mr. Pegg in 4. Mr. Walkinshaw
Authorities in any way.
if There is nothing to prevent him at any Therefore,
missed a 2 yard putt for a half. Mr. Pogg methods of effecting the necessary reque this Clause is inserted, when it is an time taking up, as I hope he will, these until this day fortnight.
qualifications which miy
was down in At the 18th, Mr. Pegg tion in the consumption, viz :-(a.) A invitation, as it were, to the Naval and necessary
was short with his second, but, playing a good 3rd, and sinking a useful putt -reduction in the hours of supply by rider Military Authorities to go to the Crown render him capable of being appointed Solicitor or Assistant Crown Solicitor for Crown Solicitor in the event of that off-
A meeting of the Finance Committee was down-in 4. Mr. Walkinshaw looked. mains to the rider main districts. (5) advice, it will certainly tend to interfere cial being promoted. That is the reason
You have a highly was held afterwards the Colonial Secreto have a certain half, being well up in The erection of public fountains and dia with a certain amount of work which has for the distinction. connection of the house services through hitherto formed a certain part of the qualified man, and you have a less qualitary presiding. The following votes were two and within a very short distance of
passed:--- The COLONIAL TREASURER-It is a mat- when this Bill is in committee, I shall out rider main districts. (.) The im work of private practitioners. Therefore, fed man. portation of water for the supply of that propose an amendment to omit this partiter of money. portion of the City bordering the harbour cular Sub-section.. and the disconnection of such portion from the City mains. The Government have given this matter the most carciul altogether with a full knowledge that the consideration and have arrived at the practice had been different, as the hon. conclusion that the second of these member says, but I should like to point
out that in Paragraph III. there is measures is the best. There is already very important qualification, and that is only a two hours' daily supply to the that His Excellency's consent has got to be given before any work for the Naval rider main districts. A reduction to one
or Military Authorities can be under hour, which would be necessary to pro- tuken, by the Crown Solicitor. Now it is duce an economy approaching to what is just as well to any clearly that so far as necessary, would cause much hardship to I can see and I suppose I may regard
Hon. Mr. PoLLOCK-It seems to te are mixing up qualifications the occupiers of the upper floors of houses myself as to some extent responsible for
the Crown Solicitor and Assistant Crown members from which complaints aro even now Solicitor (they work really in the same and status.
The class was then approved. frequent. The occupiers referred to department) there is no likelihood or
probability that the Naval or Military On clause 3, would under a one hour's supply have Authorities will put in the hands of the
Hon. Mr. POLLOCK moved that sub- Botanical and Forestry Departments, Foster Pegg would now appear to have!
In doing so Other Charges, Garden in Royal Square. to go long distances to obtain water and Crown Solicitor or
The CHALKMAN-The acting-director has would collect it often from sources liable Solicitor any quantity, or indeed any section a (iii.) be omitted. to contamination. Judging by experience work, excepting possibly in extremely he said-After what has fallen from the
And if they learned Attorney-General, I do not see recommended that a sum of 22,000 should exceptional circumstances,
the be spent on the laying out of the garden any escape from the that
Government are in Royal Square. in Kowloon, a constant supply by means did try, or if they did wish, to put in that there is
FRENCH CONVENT BAZAAR. the Naval and Military
Hon. Mr. POLLOCK-How is it proposed of public fountains can be given without the hands of the Crown Solicitor or the position
to do what practically
to be laid out?
We are informed by the Rev. Mother the censuniption exceeding the prescribed Assistant Crown Solicitor any work of inviting
anything but an exceptional character, 1 Authorities
The CHAIRMAN-The same style as the that the proceeds were very satisfactory. limit of 3 million gallons a day. It is can say quite clearly that at the present this Bill would not entitle them to do, estimated that about 480 fountains each time, as far as I see, and even more so to have the services of the Crown Solici
Hon. Mr. POLLOCK-I should have The bazaar was opened at 2 pm. by Lady May, and she remained till after 5 p.m. with two taps will suffice and that those in the future it would be itapossible for tor or the Assistant Crown Solicitor, other.
the Crown Solicitor or Assistant Crown That, Sir, in whatever way it is disguised can be made available at a cost of $10,000. Solicitor to undertake such work. I say is to a certain extent competition on he thought that plain turf- Under the system which has been adopted at the present time advisadly, in the half of the Government with private Hon. Mr. OSBORNS-Would it be in His Excellency the Governor attend order to increase this vote to turf the cd the bazaar at about 4 p.m., visiting Hon. Bir Ka Ho KA-1 support finest site?
all the stalls and admiring the work. it is not possible to place the houses in future more so, because at the present time firms.
one of the branches of the work, which
Both His Excellency and Lady May were Victoria side rider main districts en engages, I do not say the whole, but my learned friend opposite. It is un large part of the time of necessary to place such a clause in the
extremely generous in purchasing. an interesent supply nor is it intended a very for the present to put the hill district the Crown Solicitor is extradition. Now Statute Book. If the Naval and Mili- is Government at any time they can do Ro stances with which this Council On an intermittent supply, because the at the present time, owing to circum fary Authorities wish to consult the economy in water effected thereby is small familiar, extradition is at a standstill. under existing conditions. and the trouble of introducing the system There is no extradition between Hong done departmentally, and no one would
kong and the neighbouring country. But be any the wiser.
FIRE BRIGADE CHARGES,
The Governor recommended the Council The COLONIAL SECRETARY-One deponis to vote a sum of 3500 in aid of the vote The ATTORNEY-GENERAL-With reference on the number of dinners eaten, and tire Public Works, Extraordinary, Miscel to this point I only wish to say this other does not.
Hon. Mr. POLLOCK--Eating your din-laneous, Triangulation Survey of Colony, that what I said before was not made
ners does not give you ranch qualifica
The Governor recommended the Council tion.
The ATTORNEY GENERAL The qualificato vote a sum of $400 in aid of the vote Brigade, Other Charges for the following tions consist in being called to the Bar, Police and Prison Departments, A-Fire in being enrolled as a Bolicitor,
two item :--
2258 Coal..... Repairs to Engines and Plant 150
Total
8400
Assistant Crown:
Hon. Sir KAI HO KAI-I think the Bill as it stands is quite just. The man who occupies the position of Crown Solicitor should be more highly qualified in ovory sense.
It can be
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The Rev. Foster Pegg is to be con gratulated on having pat up such splendid and successful fight after being su many holes down. Putting faultlessly, he holed out the last 7 holes of the 19
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in one above fours, which in the circum-THE EYE stances was a splendid performance.
The Governor recommended the Council
As Mr. Walkinshaw was the favourite to vote a sum of $2,000 in aid of the vote for the championship this year, the Rev.
an excellent chance of gaining - premier local honours at the game this season.
The CHAIRMAN We are not dealing
Hon. Mr. OSBORNE-Can we not order
The Rev. Mother in particularly grate- with that particular site. a little more turf (Laughter.)
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came to the bazaar. The vote was passed. agreed to?
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