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HONGKONG LEGISLATIVE
COUNCIL.
A meeting the Hongkong Legislative Council was held yesterday at the Coun- eil Chamber.
The following were present:---
Si, Jons.
Trais)..
Camural).
OPRANDING THE TROOPS, COLONEL C. W, Mr. CarD SEVEN (Colonial See- Mr. J. A. S. BUCENILL (Attorney Mr. b. M. Trossos (Colonial asurer). Hon. Mr. W. CuATHAM, C.M.G. (Diree ur of Public Works).
1 M. R. HALLIFAN (Registrar Hon. Captain F. J. BADELEY (Captain- Superintendent of Potier).
(teneral).
en. Sir At Ho Kai, M.D., C.M.G, Hon. Mr. W Yek.
Hon, Mr. II. E. POLLOCK, K.C. Bot. Mr. C. I. Ross,
Hon. Mr. J. W. C. BoxNAR.
M. It. H. Carros (Clerk of Conneils).
MINUTES.
The minutes of the previous were read and approved.
THE HONGKONG DAILY PREFS. FRIDAY, OCTOBER Arx, 1912.
provided a sum for that particular pur- pose, but that was a different subject altogether.
Hon. Mr. POLLOCK-With reference to
th
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CRIMINAL NESSIONS LAW AMENDMENT el cost and remuneration, after stating General says the Company had under his estimates he will find that we have that the annual expenditure for working taken in this contract to give an efficient
ORDINANCE, 1912. six stations, allowing for the redemption and continuous service capable of dealing
The ATTORNEY-GENERAL Moved the first of capital in 18 years, interest and man with commercial traffic day and night at
reading of a Bill entitled, "An Ordinance. agement expense, would be about $106,000 speed duplex of 20 wores a minute, at
to amend the Law relating to Criminal per annum, the Postmaster General went a speed simplex of 50 words per minute, that last point, we want to be in the Sessions. on to say that the revenue mushant rally And, Sir, with regard to the distance long distance chain. I am speaking for object of this Bill is bound up to some doing so he suid-The depend upon the rates charged for traffic which messages are to be carried, the rest myself, personally, as it occurs to me at ad on the amount of traffic abtained, as the Postmaster-General says, is a test the moment, and I can conceive, Sir, that recently passed ameniting the constitu- extent with the Bill which has been I EXCELLENCY THE GOVERNOR, SIR F. but it would be impossible to form an for 2,000 miles. Therotore, I think it is it might even be stumbling block intion of the Fall Court. The learned estimate of revenue until it had been quite clear that in view of the stringent the way of obtaining something better judge who will assist the Supreme Court H. MAY, K.C.M.G.
If conditions which the Marconi Company Has ESCELLESTY THE GENERAL OFFICER Ucided what the rates were to be.
they were able to secure enough fruffie to have agreed to, as stated here by the lost after if we started with a low power by coming from Shanghai will, Cour emble the stations to work 20 hours a master-General, we may take it that for station to begin with. With reference to found, most conveniently, come here in day and if they were able to carry the their own protection and in order that what has fallen from your Excellency the months of January and July, and in
ut to dividing on this question, think erallie at a speed of 20 words a minute they ny get the payment bargained for
consequence it is proposed that there duplex, if ine third of their traffic was they will take care toat a very efficient should ask my official colleagues pre-should not be Criminal Sessions during unpaid, that was to say, Government traf Service is put up capable of complying sent if they support me in what I have those two months in order that the time fie and if one third was Press traffic, on with that test and earrying messages to said, and with that I would be satisfied of the Supreme Court may be occupied these terms this system would be renuna distance of 2,000 unles. I think there not to press the resolution to a division.thuring those two months by the ordinary We Sir Ka Ho KAI-For myself, I am Supreme Court appeals. There is crative, indeed, quite profitable, and should be no delay in this matter. allowing for a considerable reduction of should be put in the same position as entirely in sympathy with the mover nothing really further to say with regard
to the Bill at this stage. rates. If they were not able to keep the Singapore and a that way we shall be and seconder of the resolution, but if stations employed 20 hours day or if able to communicate by wireless readily they consent to withdraw it I wish to
The COLONIM SECRETARY seconded, and any of the other of these conditions were and easily with England and all these express my own personal opinion in the Bill was read a first time. not fulfilled, then, of course, the financial other places on the route of this chain of matter. Lentirely support it. results would be modified accordingly. wireless telegraphy, We would venture
VEHICLES AND TRAFFIC REGULATION Hon. Mr. WEI-1 am in favour of the And he goes on to say that even if it to hope that your Excellency and the off-
resolution.
ORDINANCE, 1019. were not remunerative the Government cial mendees of this Council are equally
Hon. Mr. BONNARI am quite in thought it advisable to erect stations if anxious with us that Hongkong should only for strategical reasons," There be included in this effective chain of wire accord with the sentiments expressed by, I will caly sny a few my hon, and learned friend, but if, as fore. Sir, it will be seen from the extracts less telegraphy. I have read from the speech of the Post words word, and that is with reference your Excellency has promised, the views master-General that although he natural-to communicating with shipping. O expressed in the resolution will he con avelingly feels the importance of the erection of that point I have consulted with a gentle eyed to the Secretary of State, I think
general wireless stations throughout the man who has a knowledge of this subject the point will be met.
Hon. Mr. POLLOCK-I withdraw the Empire for strategic and defensive pussof wireless telegraphy, and I understand posts, he puts in the matter before the that even if you have a high power resolution.
HIS EXCELLENer-f will do what I pro- House of Commons the erection of these station you can by either tuning or
or whatever the stations as being also likely to turn out slackening.
mised to do technical terin may be recrise messages, a solid and profitable business propos
POLICE MATTERS. of Ilis Excellency the Governor, faid on have noted, he goes so far as to say that force of one and a half kilowats, and The COLONIAL SECRETARY, by command tion; in fact, as your Excellency will from shipping by only working with the table Financial Minutes Nos. 30.10 he believes a profit can be ammired even am told that apparatus can be supplied 47, had moved that they be referred to the fallowing for Government traffic, which which will enable you to communicat
has to be carried gratis, and for Press with shipping, and which appurarts is Finance Committe.
1. How many cases of larcenies in duců. The COLONIAL TREASURER seconded, and traffic, which is carried at reduced rates used in connection with a high power
and also allowing for a reduction in the station, which, of course, will be required ing houses have been reported to the Police The motion was agreed to.
rales charged for telegraphic communicato send a message a distance of 2,000 between the 1st June, and the 31st August this your and from what districts; in hew The COLONIAL SECRETARY, by command often. So far then, Sir, one may say that miles,
The motion was in the following terms; many cases have arrests heen mude and how 11.E. the Governor, laid on the table the statement of the Pestminster Genera
That this Council has read with pleasure many convictions have been obtained; in The ATTORNEY-GENERAL moved the first Soflowing papers-The Report of the of an exordingly satisfactory charac
fer, because one can hardly suppose that the statement of the Postmaster-General. how many instances has the property stolen reading of a Bill entitled, An Ordin tommittee appointed to inquire into the would have launched out into these made in the House of Commons, on the 7th been recovered; what is the total estimated ance to amend the Merchant. Shipping
of August, 1912, to the effect that it is the value of the property lost; and how do the Ordinance, 1919. In doing so he said expulature and delay in constructing, commercial figares and calculations un The Post Office Huilling, also thr Finan loss he were fairly wall satisfied with his intention of the British Governmeal to
facts compare with last year's records of
This Bill is designed to remove a diffi- vial Statement in connection with deliberations with the three bodies i havefereer, at its own east, a 400,000 Wireless | forconies in dwelling-houses during the same
culty which exists in the present law Estimates for 1912, and the Abstract mentioned, two of which, as your Excel Telegraph Station in Hongkong and that
perind
with regard to the licensing of · non- showing differences between the estimates iency will have noted, were the Sub-Com-such Station is to be used for the transmis 2. With reference to the man who entered British river steamers. At one time the of expenditure for 1912 and 1913.
mitter on Imperial Defence and the lusion of commercial cables, but that this Beaconsfield Arcado at night and who sub-word" British" was inserted in this law, SANFTARY BOARD BYK-LAWS,
ed to look after the interests of the Em that the erection of such a station is to be Hospital, will the Government state whether it was probably not legal to license under pire, and after taking into account their postponed till a later date, and that this the man, at the time of his escape, was in mentioned the Postmaster-General obvi- the British Government the desirability of and what is his naus and muber? views as well as those of the other borly Council begs to most respectfully urge upon charge of any, and, if so, what Constable, this auction, which has now been amended, river steamers except .of British hationality. And. I may here say that ously thought that he was justified such a Statim wing erected in Hongkong such Constable received any, and, if so, what these licences for river steamers are patting this matter before the House of at the same time as the Singapore Station. punishment in respect of the escape of his advantageous, sa they give great facilities Lonomous as a speculation which was
Hon. Mr. Ross-Sir, the motion which prisoner? If not, why not? Will the Gov-
NEW MEMBER.
Tim Hon. Mr. J. W. C. Bounar took the oath and assumed his seat as a mem ber of Council.
FINANCIAL MINUTER,
PAPERS.
correct
The Hon. Mr. H. E. POLLOCK asked the following questions standing i
his
namke 2---
QUESTIONS.
The ATTORNEY-GENERAL Moved the first reading of a Bill entitled, "An Ordin- aner to consolidato and amend the law with respect to vehicles and traffic. doing so he said-As hen. members will see, Bir, the present law relating to this matter is contained in a variety of enact- meuts, and it seems best that they should all be consolidated in one for the con- venience, not only of lawyers, but for the public. This Bill, 1 think, if passed, will be an advantageous measure, which, of course, will have to be supplemented by regulations giving effics to these de- tails which are necessary in legislation of this kind..
The COLONIAL SECRETARY Seconded, and the Bill was read a first time.
`METHANT SHIPPING AMENDMENT ORDINANCE, 1912.
T COLONIAL SECRETARY laid on the periä] Conference, which might be trust Council regrets to burn from the statement sequently escaped from the Government Civil and owing to the inserting of that word
table Additional Bylaws with regar to the removal of ceilings, stair-linings, et, made under section 16 of the Public Health and Buildings Ordinances, 1893- nit, and moved that they be approved by the Council.
Tretious disease.
The motion was agreed to.
HONGKONG AND WIRELESS TELEGRAPHY, flon. Mr. POLLOCK --Your Exellency,
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had on hundenffs and/or other feiters, and, restrictions than are imposed in the case if so, whether such handleaffs or other fetters of ocean-going or sea-going vessels. Com were either removed or loosened prior to his Paratively recently certain international escape, and, if so, by whose orders? What arrangements have been entered into complaint was the man suffering from when between His Majesty's Government and What informa- the Government of other Powers, parti- admitted into Hospital?
to these on has the Government to lay before the cularly France, and owing
amicable negotiations the necessity, or. Always harɑ os hand a very large co indeed, any particular object in the succeeded in making his escapér
restrictions being made which were made
stock of 3. What steps, if any, are taken by any and what Government Department, and how often, for testing the efficiency of the brakes
in the previous. Bill, is now removed, and in consequence this Bill proposes to throw open these special licenses to besides those of British nationality. steamers
The COLONIAL SECRETARY Seconded, and the motion was agreed to:
Che motion was, agreed to,
The ATTORNEY-GENERAL. reonded, and likely to Laru vat profitable. So far, as has just been made by any hon. andernment also state whether, -at-the-time of } for carrying on this river traffic larger
1 said just now, everything, would be learned friend is one which commends is admittance to the Hospital, the man numbers of passengers, and lega arvers" The COLONIAL SECRETARY moved that the tirely satisfactory from our point of Council approve of the additional nyeview, but there is oue point, as is indient self strongly to me, and I think to taws for the prevention and mitigation by the motion, upon which I would all the other incial members. Wire of epidemic, endemic, contagious, or in respectfully venture to suggest that it is less telegraphy is now a recognised means desirable that we should express our of communication, not only between ships The ATTORNEY-LESERS seconded, and views, and that is the point as to the and ports, but also as an alternative to date of the erection of the proposed wire cables. I do not wish to decry the valu less telegraph station in this Colony of able services which have been rendered Hongkong, The Postmaster General to this Colony by the Cable Companies, xg leave to make the notion which mentions in his squeech certain places in for they are indisputable. But I thi Council as to the method in which the man stands in my name, and as hon. member regard to which apparently wireless tele most of us are agreed that their cable Jave the motion in full before them I wil with your Excellency's permission, askgraphy stations are to be erected at an charges are rather high, and if these High early date. Those places mentioned in Power Stations were only erected for the them to take it as read. This motion, the speech as places at which the British purpose of reducing the cable charges
on trucks, trollies and handcarts! Sir, has reference to the very important Government would erect and pay for four they will be well worth it. (Applause.) subject of wireless telegraphy, which, as stations are: England itself, in Egypt, But, Sir, in view of the chain of wire-question No. 1, said: The number of The COLONIAL SECRETARY, replying to your Excellency is aware, has formed the subject to the approval of the Egyptian less stations which, we are told, are arcenies in dwelling houses reported to subject of questions and debates in this Government, in East Afries, and in shortly to be erected to connect up the Police between the 1st June and the Council for something like two years Singapore or its neighbourhood. The various portions of the Empire, it scossist August this year was one hundred
ast, bub, Sir, all the information that Postmaster-General then goes on to say to me that, having regard to the very was have been able to get upon this sub-that the Indian Government will erect one important and vullying position of this and twee
During the corresponding jeet has, until the last few weeks, been
near the Western coast, the South Africolons, there should be no delay in period in 1011 the number was eighty- doven. In 7 cases arrests were made, 18 very much of a tentative and provisional
an Government in the neighbourhood of forging the link which is to bind us to character, in fact, Sir, when I asked the Pretoria, and the Australian Government that chain. No doubt it is a wise precna-persons being arrested, of whom 7 were nance to authorize the appropriation of question in this Counch at our last mont
haw undertaken to erses one to connection to delay, and very probably the last convicted and discharged. The figures ing on 22nd August this year as to whe-
with "Singapore, He proceeds in thes ther the Government could give any in formaation to the Council with reference words, to which i desire to draw special word has not yet been said in the matter 1011 were cases and 9 persons arrested,
attention :
of wireless telegraphy, but in these days of whom 8 were convicted and I dis Later, it is contemplated iess telegraph station in this Colony, and possibly in West Africa." There
of Hongkong cannot afford to stand still alleged to have been stolen was $20,398.80 hon. Colonial Secretary replied: "The
fore, it is clear, as I submit, from the or wait. Already we lag behind. Witness this year as against $14,095.40 in 1911. Government is not yet in a position to
l'ostmaster-General's speech that with the wireless stations in Japan and the The value of the property recovered this year was $1,578.77 as against $713.70 in give any information on the subject." That. Sir, was the position of affairs so reasonable speed and celerity there is to Philippines, and even in parts of the
be erected according to his programe a neighbouring Republic of China, whilst 10. The number of cases reported from
SUPPLEMENTARY APPROPRIATION BILL. The COLONIAL SECRETARY moved the first reading of a Bill entitled, "An Ordi a further supplementary sum of twenty-
SCIENTIFIC
AND
SURVEYING INSTRUMENTS
Transits, Lorale, Plans Tables, Priamatio and Sight Compasses, Hand Levels, &o, &c.)
also
eight thousand six hundred dollars and DAWING forty-five cents, to defray the charges of
the motion was agreed tɔ,
the promised establishment of a wire that stations will be erected at Hongkong of invention and rapid change the Colony charged. The vaine of the property/the year 1911.
the
recently as a few weeks ago. Since then,chain of wireless stations extending from Hongkong, probably the greatest, or one each district and the number of arrests, Colony a report of the debate in the east, and he tells us it is contemplated world, is, in the matter of wireless com- ftrict are as follows for the years 1911
of
and 1912-
*1911.
Casos.
Arrests.
Crises.
Convictions.
Discharges.
The COLONIAL TREASURER Seconded, and
THE ESTIMATES.
AND
INSTRUMENTS
MATERIAL
T Squaria, Set Squares, Straight Edges,
Seulos, Inka, Mo., &c.)
The COLONIAL SECRETARY moved the first reading of a Bill entitled, "An Ordi- nance to apply a sum not exceeding seven million one hundred and sixteen AĢENTS FOR— thousand four hundred and fifty-four dollars to the Public Service of the year
1913."
The COLONIAL TREASURER seconded.
W. F. STANLEY & Co., LTD.,
LONDON.
45
The Expenditure estimates follows:-
are
as
Governor
23
Colonial Secretary's Department
10
and Legislature,
8 88,078
70,672
0
Colonial Secretary's Department
3
ง
Special Expenditure
1,241
E. R. WATTS & SON, LTD,
LONDON.
3
Registrar-General's Department..
43,736
Sham Shui Po Station 1 Cough Hill Station ---
#
Audit Departmeot
31,021
Audit Department Special Ex-
penditure
150
€4,084
Treasury.
87
Harbour Master's Department.
232,072
Harbour
Master's Department
3
12
G
Special Expenditure
250
8
2
Ü
3 Observatory
21,477
17
2
1) 2
Observatory Special Expenditure
2,114
0
Miscellaneous Services
181,478
WE ELIMINATE
8
0
Judicial and Legal Departments.
257,484
0
GUESSWORK
0
D
ሰ
Special Expenditure............
800
8
3
Police and Prison Departments...
858,742
BY USING.
5
Police and Prison Departments
THE LATEST
.112
*
9
AND MOST
· Total
... 1912.
House of Commoas on the 7th August that a station will be erected at Hong munication, dependent upon the courtesy the fast day of the session, in the course long, but he pats in the word "later" or good offices of one of His Majesty's of which debate the Postmaster-General, Now, Sir, in view of the importance of ships when they happen to be in port. Mr. Herbert Samuel, made a statement
ith regard to wireless telegraphy which this Colony as a centre for shipping, the It is not due to any lack of enterprise anofficial members of this Connell are on the part of the commercial community KAVY OR some useful, interesting and animous in thinking that we ought to that a wireless station has not already
It appeared; leasureable information.
urge upon the British Government to been established here, but we have to Central Station Sir, from the speech of the Pustmaster-carry out its intention to erect a wireless wait the pleasure of the Home Govern- No 2 Station General on that occasion, that various in-station in this Colony nut later but at so
ment in this matter. I do not think any No. 7 Station portant bodies such as the Cable Landing early a date that it may be completed of us doubt the wisdom of the decision Water Police Station... Rats Committee, the Sub-Committee on simultaneously with the completion of arrived at by the Imperial Conference, Yaumati Station finperial Defence, and the Imperial Conthe wireless telegraphy station to be that all wireless stations should be State Hunghon Station ference had taken into their joint con- greeted in, or in the neighbourhood of controlled, but I think that this Council sideration the question of communication Singapore. We consider that this is
its Shaukiwan Station ...... 1 wireless jelegraphy throughout the matter of importance in regard to which should urge to the utmost Empire, and it appeared from the speech this Colong way fairly claim from the endeavours that the matter be not, further of the Postmaster General that as the r
amount of shipping which passes through delayed. Sir, I beg to second the motion ull of that conference, whilst providing it-it being as your Excellency knows, made by my hon. and learned friend. for the sending of all Naval and Military the Brst port in the world with regard HIS EXCELLENCY-Gentlemen, I am sure
essages required for defensive purposes, to tonnage we consider it advisable that we would all like to see Hongkong Central Station it was still apparently considered prac: this Colony should not lag behind Singa- participating in any large scheme of No. 2 Station ticable that a considerable number of
pore in the race, but we respectfully urge radio-telegraphic communication through- No. 7 Station commercial messages could be dispatched, that it should receive the same treatment cat the Empire, but I think you must Water Police Station .. thereby incidentally reducing consider-
Į as Singapore, and that at the same time agree with ine that the Government can-Yaumati Station ably, as it was hoped, the cable rates beas Singapure is linked with England this, not accept this resolution. In the first Hanghon Station ...... tween different portions of the Empire. Colony should also be linked with Eng place, the Government has no information Sham Shui Po Station The sending of commercial messages and land. That, Sir, is the object whatever about this particular scheme-Shaukiwan Station..... the reduction of cable rates are very proof bringing
forward this motion which is an Imperial scheme-referred to Gough Hill Station .......... minent features of the Postmaster-Gen-
Council. this
The
unoff in the resolution. In the second place, the
Total al's speech. With regard to the erection cial members desire that in this very im subject to which the hon. mover has re- of a chain of wireless stations through-portant matter there should be no ques, ferred is only the beginning of the debate The COLONIAL SECRETARY, replying to Medical Departments Special
the Empire, ho goes on to say ation of postponement or delay
They on two points there will be no disagreo consider that now we have got. Mr. He in the House of Corninons, and we do not question No, 2, said-The man was in ment. The first was that the erection of bert Samuel's statement in the House of even know whether this scheme has been charge of Chines Constable 293 Wong chain of telegraph stations at suitable Commons, now that for in the time of adopted. In the third plaer, before this Kuan, who was subsequently proscated points throughout the Empire was in has something definite and tangible to suele scheme it would naturally like to and fined $26. The man was handcuffed Government can count itself to any bafore the Magistrate for neglect of duty itself desirable. In peace they would be
lay hold of in this matter, now when Wo useful for commercial purposes
see that it is contemplated by the British know some of the details as to participa
cuffs on at the time of his escape. Education was suffering from bruises and the loss cheapening of telegraphie communication the Post Office vote these various stations maintenance and participation in the heween various portions of the Empire. throughout the Empire ultimately, revenue derived from the station. We If later says that the problem of the coming to Hongkong, we think that now have no information about any of these of seviral teeth. He escaped through a Empire was largely one of communica-we should press this matter on and we matiers, and all I can do is to ask the bath-reem window and down a tion, and the more the Government was regard it as of the utmost importance for Secretary of State for information about pipe. Thore is no reason to believe that able to improve communication the bet commercial purposes that we should be this scheme, to forward the resolution the Chinese Constable comived at his
before
i
1 Judiciat and Legal Departments
would be likely to contribute to the Government to erect apparently out of tion in the cost or otherwise, cost of when sent to hospital and had the hand
Special Expenditure Medical Departments
Expenditure
Sanitary Dapartmont Sanitary Department Special Es-
penditure
5,500 238,480
.560
· 337,846
18,276.
He
Botanical and Forestry Depart-
meut Education Special Expenditure... Military Expenditure:--
•Volunteers.. Volunteers Special Expenditure Public Works:--
44,192
276,090
11,850
Department
water
The COLONIAL SECRETARY, replying tu
ter it would be. I am sure these words linked up with Singapore.
In case it and the speeches of the hon. unofficial escape. will find an echo in the minds of members should have escaped the attention of any members who moved and seconded it, and If this Council.
Public Works Department Public. Works
Special Expenditure Pablic Works Recurrent Public Works Extraordinary Kowloon-Canton Railway
Under the heading of hon. member I would point out that the to say they are very desirous that Hone question No. 3, Mid-The brakes are, working of the system he states that each Marconi Company has entered into very koug should not be left out of the scheme.examined at the time of issue and renewal Govent would pay for the mainten important and somewhat stringent guar- I think that if I do that the object with of licence by the Inspector of Vehicles AREC or station which it erected and anteca as to the efficiency of its system, which the hon. members have moved and in the Central District and the would be credited with the receipts of because it appears, first of all, from the seconded this resolution will be met. As Inspectors in charge in the case of other fPost Office
districts;
Hon Mr. PoLOCK-With regard to
Charge on account of Public Debt Pensions
traffic which its own station bandlcd.statement of the Pastminster-General that I do not wish to vote against the resolu The receipts would not be pooled. The the Marconi Company does not stipulate tion, I suggest to the hon members that revenus would be divided on the same at all for anything to be paid for their they withdraw it. I would merely add, question 2, I asked if the handcuffs were principle as the through telegraph traffic stations until they have hena erected and with reference to what the hon. mover either removed or loosened. The latter Charitable Services revenue was divided between the various shown they were capable of maintaining said at the end of his speech about a local, Part does not seem to have been answcred
he turns tal
His EXCELLENCY-They were not re- moved or loosened.
Total
(Continued on Page 5.)
42,32€ 5,018
378,886
1,766 435,600 1,693,300
439,343
255,672 752,323
300,800
24,875
87,116,454
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