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THE COURT-MARTIAL OF LIEUT.
SUTOR.
SECOND DAY'S PROCEEDINGS. When the Court resumed, Liant. Bator expressed himself ready to give ovidence on his own behalf..
would be found that military discipline really moont enbordinating self to principle, and insub ordination was the subordination of principle to self: The highest discipline was when a man subordinated everything he had in this world and stood for principle."
AFFECTION FOR THE ARMY.
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The fact that I bad talked to a reporter after
Territorial adjutanoy, and he also wanted the president of the court of inquiry which sat at I had promised not to P-Yes.
Have you since been satisfied with my ax. Aldershot in April last. Other mitmesece he wished to call were Colonel Kent, R.Aplanation about that You Biase then you commanding Tyne defences, and his staff officer, explained the interview to my satisfaction, and
the matter was cleared up. Major Cordon.
Colonel Little said that while prosecutor did Do you regret having in any way suspected wish to hamper the accused in his defence in my sanity -No, I thought it my duty to have I am not a judge of He had a great affection for the Army and any way; he would submit that the evidence you medically examined." for the men in it, and would like to see the com- which Lieutenant Butor desired to call was Insanity, so I had you examined by the The President Are the persons you wish to missioned ranks put on the same ground as re-whally irrelevant to the charge before the doctor.
disprovo directly Lieutenant Sator-I think what the colonel call witnesses as to character only P
garde discipline. He saw many things happen Court, sud could not tend to
of fact which wishes to convey in that 1 would not have Liont, Sutor-No, they are witnesses as to the ing in the service, where people set their own or indirectly the simple question truth of the statements in wy phlet. interests above their duty, a thing which the the Court had got to try, namely, whether the broken my word not to give an interview unless
was responsible for the publication of a I was insane P think the truth of thess touches the assembly of rank and file would not do. There was not a
of single
bie views nk nud Ale who would
in which he had
Colonel MacMahon: -That it so I thought pamphlet
expressed experts, and I think it is desirous legal
man among the rank
General the
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issue before the Court. The proceed that was subsequently cloared ap MENTALLY FIT. require the attendance of ten offers sitting here offers had not much chanoo. They had really and opinions on militars subjects. That was he had deliberately broken bis word to me, but
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Colonel Little The foot that Lieutenant or not, but it is desirable to get at the truth of vide, and it was a hard thing to fight for a
The Aconsed - Does it ? the statements contained in it. The truth
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The President-I don't think you quite s of t the witnossen you propose to call-refer to the statements in the charge with regard to the to the truth of the statements contained in it. publication of the pamphlet, not with reference Limt. Bator-They are with regard to the truth of the statements, but there is also a question an to my honour involved I wish to pat it beyond doubt that there was ne foundation
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to try certificates tied of your sanity. You were
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satisfies the Court
The
Accnnad-I bayo besa examined every in day for a fortnight.,
statements in the pamphlet, a most valuable thing to have, especially in the and family. The object of the court martial, he not in any way bear upon that charge. It would Butor is before the Court shows that he is acne. understood, was to pazish him and to hold him not ho in the interests of the public service that summoned to tender. 3 oxample to all military officers, that Secretary of State should
Coort satembled they should on to ocession subordinate then give evidence before
an issue in which his own department was con duty. That was sa extraordinary thing to go forthcerned unless bis testimony was essential to the examined yesterday and to-day, and that quite selves to their
proof or diaproof of the issue before the Court, procedure applied to the Secretary for He thought the rule laid down in the rules the rame way as they applied to the of a Colony, and that the Secretary for War witness. It wad should not be called as evident that Mr. Haldens could give no personal evidence bearing upon the case, and bis et tendance for the purpose of being cross-examined apor Be
Bide is would be undesirable and evan nascemly. With regard to the other witnesses the matter would not be within their official cognisanos, and the attendaves of some of them would be attended by great public incon-
I that look plom at Aldershot as for the ingnity that cont to whether I attempted bribery, and also as to the fact that as effort was made to make it clear officers that there wạn no to my Commanding foundation for that inghiry. I think that entitles me to go into the question of my personal Colonel Little, the prosecutor, pointed out honour. That is what I min here for. tant the truth of the statements in the pamphlet had nothing to do with the question of publies- tion,
Lieut. Suter-I admit I broke the King's Regulations, and I am not going to contest the publication of the book at all. Continuing, the Bocused said he was charged with breaking the King's Regations, and the prosecution had endeavoured to limit the trial to that point alono. In his opinion a breach of the King's Regulations varied according to the nature of
regulations.
These were of varying
those
of of breaking was very recent.
Colonel Little then addressed the Court for the prosecution. If the socused, he said, non- sidered he was auffering any wrong, the proper course was not to publish a painplet, but to appeal to the Army Council, who were bound in law to examine into the facts, and report to the would lay the matter Secretary of State, who
receive his before the King in order to Majorty's directions with regard to it.
The Aconsed Want redress is there against the Army Council?
Colond Little said this was the only method open to officers to obtain redress of auy, arios. sonance, real or supposed, and they were expressly forbidden to adopt any other. The nooused in publishing the pamphlet had been guilty of a grave branch of the Kin's Regulations, issued auch an sot was seriously prejudicial to discip- line. by authority for the guidance of the Army, and
REQUEST REFUSED. The court was cleared while the members ddered whether the witaessa should be called, When the public were re-admitted, the Judre Adfocate read a statement, which said that the Court bad decided that the attendance of the for the defence.
uses desired by accused was autocossary
to the British public. If that was what the Was Borry for it. In his pamphlet, which was Court was going to do, then let it do it, but he written very hurriedly, he was told he had made seathing indictment of our Army system, but the court-martial was not trying to ascertain
All it had whether there was anything in the indictment. do was to find cut whether he had published it, and it did not matter whether there was anything wrong with the Army system.
The President You are putting words and intentions into the month of this Court which I think, on reflection, you will see that you have no right to do.
Lieatest Bater--I have made certain reflec-venience, tions in this pamphlet. I refer particularly to fort in which we are, and. the condition of which no one seems to think of any importance at all. I say what is possible with regard to this fort in the United Kingdom, and it is time that somebody said so. If you say that is not a matter of importance, all right; but I think it is important. The object of this court-martial is to punish me for saying so, for committing s brasoh of military discipline I do not care what punishment you inflict upon me. I am determined, so far I Oss, to see that the opportunity
of going into the truth of the statemmts in this pamphlet. I have been looking at our Army system for ten years, and
obtain this certificate, but was dismissed from I make these statements deliberately. You may the School of Signalling Afterwards a Court take the view that I am insane. Well, if I am of Inquiry was ordered to investigato certata imane, put me in a lunatic asylum. If I am incidents which occurred at the school. One not insane, then give me an opportunity of the terms of reference to this Court was whe clearing myself of the accusations against me, ther he had asked the sergeant-major of the This pamphlet goes to Germany, to India, to school if it was possible to obtain copies Egypt, all over the world; yet you tell me that of toat massages by bribery; if he wished to what is contained in it does not matter, that its obtain the messages by this means, or merely publication is the poly factor of importanco. asked the question for his own information. Very well, that is all I have to Bay.
The socused was then asked to give evidence
On the application of the hooned, the Court in his own behalf. Going to the witness-standa urned until tomorrow morning to easble he was sworn by Major Buckley, and practi-him to prepare ad address for his defence. cally repeated the statement reported above.
Red soportance, and the one he wo thing comes out, and that I shall have a full He added that he was promised the adjutasoy |
many
The
had been able to get on without it for hundreds of years, and people in the Amy were always able to speak the truth until this particular regulation was made. La fast, in the old days people who tried to improve things by publications of this kind usually got AK.C.B. for it,
Windows."
his face.
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the Durham Territorial Artillery if he got s
signalling certificate. He went to Aldershot to
of
The Court held that there was nothing which happened at the school that reßested upon bis personal honour, but his colonel was not in- formed that there was no foundation for the suggestion in the terms of referente..
He was in the unforinnate position of having to talk about an army system with which so many men, for whom he had the greatest respect, were connected. Eome people said he was play ing up to the British public. He was rather play. ing down to them. The fact that his own colonel and other people who know him per sonally, and know what he had said against the Army, were still friendly with him showed that he had no personal feeling in what he had written about the Army system. He had not written about anyone personally, but only pro fessionally, and
felling After he had been sent down from the School of Signalling his apart from pasauny thing he had said was quito
the Territorial adjutancy. The fact that the colonel bad gala recommended him for pame of a Regular oficer who was at applicant for an adjutaney in the Territorial Force had to be submitted to Territorial colonel who might be the village tanker was humiliat- ing. He did not think anch
"Who's who" AND "WHATS WHAT." "Surgeon-Major de Rensie, for instance," continned Lieut. Sutor, wrote a pamphlet on the Aria Medical Service, and was in con- sequence presented with a Companionship of
· ALLEGED JERÉGULARITIES. the Bath, and appears in Who's Who,' while I What's What Again, shall probably got
Tho soused then sat down, and Colonel Little, take regulations of the Bengal Army. It asked what witnesses he proposed to call. is notorions that there regulations constitute a
Lieutenant Bator said he would rather sink very serious breach of the King's Itegulations the personal aspect of the matter if the Court
I att every hour of the day. The regulation
would consent to inquire into the truth of the charged with
statements he had made in the pamphlet. He bered that in these days people could prove that at the, School of Signalling whon it is remort pong is so extraordinary one
to put all their best goods in the shop certain scenes took place before he was kicked out of it. He had been up against the authorit. He the accused) did not think Mr. McKenna jes because he thought things were disgraceful had any Dreadnoughts up his sleeve that
As regards officloney in the school, he had foun he had not put forward, and he did not officers anxious to learn who had no opportuni. think that regulation of the sort he ty given them to learn. There had been consid. was charged with breaking was really con- grable feeling against him before the affair cerned in the public interest. If there was of the pamphlet came up at the School of anything good to know about the Army of the Signaling. When he was brought before the
would Navy was it conceivable that precautions
bim contempt, and he had to tell that
with be taken to pravout it becoming known to the commandant, "the chief instructor tried to treat public F But, apart from this aspect of it, he would like to say a word about his ides of officer to behave himself and to shake his fiat in military discipline. It was sometimes the inty of an officer to disregard & regulation, as it might be his duty upon occasion to disobey an order, When a man took upon himself the duty
Lieutenant Sutor said he hoped the state of disobeying an order, and there was no prima menis would reader it necessary for those per. facie evidence that it was done in his own
The President-If you wish to prove the personal interest, or for any selfish end, thes his sous to be brought to the Court. experience of military life was that persons in existence of irregularities, do not do it by mask authority did what they could to find out the ing statements against people who are not here. facts of the ouse and do the man justice. An
Lieutenant Sator-If they are not here, it is officer who refused to sign his sooounts because
What he really complained of in the matter Continuing, they were insccurate was disobeying an order in no fault of mine. so doing, but there was always an inquiry to the incidents at the School of Signalling was that the general commanding at York did the facts in relation to the adjutancy, and settle sscertain whether he was justified in doing so. which led to his being sent down from sot make himself personally acquainted with If that man was wrong, then he might be shot that institution without a certificate, for all he (Lieutenaut Sutor) would say to
if he was right the custom of the complained that he had been so sent down it there and then-said in effect that he was
sions of contrary, bat
of the Army Chanoil. the fellow who was respon on the uncorrobrated statement of a non-com. simply a telegraph post to transmit the desi He knew enough about Service was to p
missioned officer.
handed get at
in certain docu. The accused then sible for the inaccuracy.
militery discipline to be aware that the com- In the same way, if an officer believed things musadant of the school was not entitled to take ments connected with the court of inquiry as were wrong in the Army and tried to have them up that attitude, especially as the non-commis extract from the evidence of Sergeant Major taevidence on his behalf. One of these was sn sioned officer had promised (Lieutenant
him put right, he should get justice for doing it.
Major Eller. This was rather diflenit for officers to grasp, Subar) not to mention the conversation that had, Simpson, of the School of Signalling. Another because when one tomched commissioned rank taken place between them. He did not wish to i was a portion of the evidence of
"What were the chances of Lisatenant Sutor discipline seentod to go in a different way from what it dil when the rank and file were concern. Ret anyone at the school into trouble, and was shaw, of the same school, in the following terms: order prepared to resign his commission rather than obtaining a certificate?--Ie hud a special on ed. When an officer refused to obey an he could not demand a court-materials me of give the names of the officers whom he thought all reading tests, and, therefore, conld have no
were concerned In irregularities.
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ACCUSED'S COMPLAINT.
the rank and file could so as to find out wi
He was sent down because he refused to give object in resorting to bribery in order to obtain in the wrong.
"This is the document," said the sccused, That point, however, did not apply in his case, because he had got a court those names, and the statement of the sergeasta certlBente."
was drawn up in such a way "regarding which General Altham said there was martial, but the result appeared somewhat fatile m because the Court was not going into the fact he did not say it was so drawn intentionally good ground for an inquiry as to whether I had
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are also Wero put in, as well as the finding of the think of their wives and familles. Since he had sent down from the school; his appointment to rent of telegrams and letters which passed in been under arrest a brether ofloor had come to an adjutantey of Territorial artillery was taken Df Tnaniry. This latter
from him. The Army Council had a perfect
to take that appointment do right
his quarters and said, "It is all very well, Sator, to take your views of things, but I would not do
eeffzer that the Sargeant-
1. I have got a very nice mamme and I have bommission also if they thought, and his Lieutenant Butor had on the test. I
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Bailing certificate. To do that he wanted to call the commandant at once.
Council Colonel MacMahon was then recalled to clear
the
of the Army, and goes to Woolwich and gets them for his own use. The Court came to good deal of feudalism in the Army, and the elected to Parliament, and poses as a martyr, conclusion that Lieutenant Bator beliered soma ides
prerailed that when a mask got an order it He himself had other things to do. He wanted irregularities were taking place, and had merely an opportunity of showing that he was not de- desired to clear the matter up, although it was did not matter twopence whether it was right That
of bis adjutantey because he had no sig. unfortunate that he did not report the matter to prived or wrong, it we despise It was quite as was true discipline.
awitness the member of the Army ( important in the interest of dissipline that an order should be a good and correct order as that who was responsiblyfor his loss of the adjutantoy.ap a point with reference to the cancellation of
he appointment, Tho
Rid, was conditional on from it abould be carried out without question or. He wanted to call the commandant of the School Lieutenant Sator's appointment as adjutant.
of Signalling who had sent him AWES
B Lieutenant Bater obtaining a certificate from demar.
OB the susupported statement of
the Bohool of Signalling, and qualifying for Take the charge of the light Brigade, the the school
the rank of captain at the earliest opportunity. Lentengut went on there an order was carried sergeant-major.
The appointment was not finally taken away, oat that was absolutely wrong. It was a very fine thing and all the world wondered, but the time limit
came in, and it the fellow who was ordered to charge had had time it would have
The accused then asked Colonel MacMahon been his duty to point out to the man who are
that he was an ass. Therefore there justies. That court-martial was not composed question, as to whether and a very strong of great legallights. They were not German whether he, however, had any doubt as to his
in order was justified or philosophalked to them as men.
thank God but they were men. sanity."Yes," was the reply. "On one oc
He wanted casion. I think it was Aug. 6 lust, your general was not justified, and therefore people were not and he
Tho
Accused-General demeanour Gad entitled to say that a refusal to obey was fechai Justice, and that was why he desired to have demeanour and condnot led me to have a doubt."
called cally dis
disobedience, and that settled the whole these witnes
be
President-What do you want these conduet might mean anything. It might mean to be thing That Court was not pressed for time,
I was fit to be in a lunatic asylum
What definits note like the officer in command of the Light Brigade, witnesses to prove?
Lieutenant Bater said he wished to examine Archbishop of Canterbury. and he was entitled to have the benefit of the Haldane with regard to a letter he bed was I doing? - Your who ademeanour was such
at the disposal of the Court to
go into the
after consultation with Colonel of whaiber has statements in his sent him which contains many statements that that I considered it advisible, as responsible for were untrue, and he would like to find out if your we
examined. Can you give any defluite tea as to my con- what a tawmendously, ifficult thing it
WANTED TO CALL MR HALDANÉ. He also wanted to call Mr. Haldene, Secretary for War. It was not a great deal to because Lientenart Sutor had not got a certi- ask this, in order that, after ten year service fieste.
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ACCUSED'S DEMEANOTE.
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ellet were right or Front might Mr, Haldane was in the habit of treating other Kent, to.
Gaid
would
or
be if every afflor in the Army was to start this offers as he hd treated him. He wanted to sort of thing, bat in his case ho flon ht it examine the commandant of the school of not on that afternoon? Well, for example, would have beau better, if, instead of trying him gunnery about the statement he had forwarded yon promised not to communicate with the by's court-martial, a court of inquiry had been to the War Off, on which the interpretationPrese, and that svening we found an interview appointed to ascertain whether there was any was pat that be (Lieutenant Bator) was attempt had been given to the Evening Chronicle. That DON, EO ground for the statement. he had made in his lng bribery. He wanted a member of the Army in itself was suficient to make mo think you
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