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THE RECENT NAVAL DEBATE. {'

STRENGTH OF THE NAVY.

LONDON. March 29.

"That, in the opinion of this House, the declared policy of his Majesty's Government respecting the immediate provision of battleships of the newest type does not sufficiently secure the safety of the Empire."

This was the indiaiment brought against the Government by the Opposition Leaders in the Commons last night. It was actually laid before the House on their behalf by Mr. Arthur Lee, n young politicians who was Civil Lord of the Admiralty in the late Goyerament and who has made great strides in Parilamentary estima tion during the three years he has since spent in the "cool shades of Opposition." On the present occasion he fully confirmed the good opinion generally entertained of his political capacity by delivering an excellent speeck moderate, tactful, ludd, and well phrased. The discussion thas initiated occupied the whole of the rest of the sitting.

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Of course there was a well-filled House. Not only was this the first motion of censure of the present Parliament, but the question with which it dealt is aniversally admitted to be vital to the continued existence of the British Empire. In such circumstances members naturally gathered carly. Before the discussion had been long in progres not only was nearly every seat on the floor copied, but book side galleries were led by attentive legislators. Nor did the Strangera' Galleries present what has of late been their customary cold and bare appearance; Trus, the five long tions of benches which would, in the dd days have been filled with esger and end rows of members' friends or constituents w out | a single occupant, but the two

of them, that assigned to members o of Lords and that served for for matists and other distinguished str both well-filled. To the left. of the United States, the Austrian, an Ambassadors, and the fferman, Italin and Portuguese Chargés d'Affaires. right wow Earl Cawdor, the Marquis of London. derry, the Earl of Cromer, Viscount Selly, Lord Lochee, Lord Bassey, Lord Newton, Lord MacDonnell, and Lord Shaw. The Lords' Gallery was so crowded that not nearly all the momber of the other House who wished to hear the debate were able to get into it, and during part of Sir Edward Grey's speech seven or eight Poers coutented

nted themselves with standing room in the entrance corridor. Sir John Fisher was among the officials seated in the little enclosure behind the Speaker's Chair.

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As Mr. Lee had described the matiommt ma condemnation but as an appeal, so Sir Edward Gray and that the Government was not contend ing for a party victory but merely asked for confidence. He admitted East the House was perfectly right in towing thosituation grisly, and

pointed out that when the German pro gramme was completed Germany would hire a dest of 33 Dreadnoughthe most powerful the world has "wyer yet seen."

This, he ata," imposed on us the necessity of rebuilding the whole four fleet. The element of uncertainty was as to the time in which we pust do it. Then came an important statement as to Admiralty action as to the British shipbuilding capacity. For building hala und propelling machinary, he said, British capasity was considerably in excess of German capadty, and in regard to the biggest gas our manufac turing capacity was also believed to be superior, but our capacity for producing gun-monatings was weiker. - rrangements hid, however, been made with manufacturers which would in a few months give us a superiority in that respect also.

One would

The Foreign Sucretary gave an interling review of the progressively-improved diplomatic relations between Groat Britain and Germany in recent years. He expressed the opinion that there were two possibilities which might produce conflict between the two conatrice. be an attempt on our part to isolate Germany-an attemptwhich we had no idea of making-andthe other would be the isolation of Great Britain by the attempt of any great Navil Power to domi nite and dictate the policy of the Continent. He pointed out that Great Britain's Navy was to her what the German Amy was to Gor |mony. No superiority of the British tver the Gremau Navy would ever he said, "pat is in a position to effect the independence of Germany, but if her Navy were superior to ours, it would be not merely a question of ouites but your existend would be at

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Then came a statement respecting the decla Aations made by Gericauy as to her intentions. "We have been informed verbally but quite definitely

"Sir Edward Grey said, that der- many will not accelerate her naval programme of construction, and will not have thirteen slips of the Threadnough! type, indading orainors, till the end of 1912." He also gave details as to other declarations of the German intentions, ships ready for trial and those ready for com stating that, while they did not bind the Gerasu mission. Later on Mr. Balfour was subject to Government, they disposed of the idea that Opposition Leader had said that he did not an interruption from the Prime Minister. The Germany would have thirteen of the largest believe that ship-builders and others had ships in Decembar, 1910.

received their orders to prepare plaat for an

of mountings, turrets, and so on till the vote censure appeared on the notice papera. Mr.

orders," he said, were given in January." Mr. Asquith at once jumped up to declare that there was no foundation for this suggestion. "The

load cries of "Withdraw. Of course I accept Balfour was at

was at ones anailed by the Liberals with

the he replied, but I should not be behaving

statement of the right hon. gentlemen.

that I saw one. candidly to the House if I did not add of the great contractors tree days ago and he had received no mich orders." Here there were repeated Ministerial cries of Name," Ir. Balfour said he would give the same to the Government:

the During

progress of Mr. Baltour'e spiech the result of the Croydon election was brought

While he fully accepted the German declara tions, Sir Edward Gray remarked that one of the points not covered by them was that the allowed for a considerable superiority in the type money authorised for the four ships of 1909-10 of these ships over their predecessors.

That,

he said, is the reason for keeping an open mind with regard to the time of ordering." But he contended that if in the latter half of for the four hypothetical ships, and if in this year the Goverment were to give orders

the following year it found itself

pressed, and made use of its capacity, the British Navy would have twenty-six Dreadnoughts in 1913. Moreover, he stated, with regard to the future, that wherever there was a doubt as to be Germany the benefit of the doubt would be

given Government on the side of national safety,

When it comes to a question

between national safety and economy has there ever," he asked, been's Government in this country which has erred os the side of

economy?" Sir Edward Grey raded with an appest to members on his own side to keep an open mind as to the future, and to recognise that the wide question night be entering on a stage more gave than was yet known.

July to be try to give orders before what was being done by by his Alajesty's, the House by Mr. F. E. Smith and unde

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the ships, if they were thought needful, completed in time. Mr. Arthur Lee kad u

u prolonged cheer from the Opposition when he rose soon after a quarter to four to move the resolution. He spoke for about fifty minutes, studiously refraining from heated or provocative language. dmitting that the motion was technically one of coneurs on the Government, he emphatically denied that there was the slightest justifiation for the charge of partizanship made; against those for whom he spoke. The Opposition Leader in putting the motion on the paper had, he said, adopted the only means open to him of pressing his views upon the House, and he chimed that

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out been patriotic, consistent, and uzav In a striking phrase he declared that the solely on the unaided evolution of Ministerial question of naval defence was too grave to rest doubts." Oaco more he pointed out that if

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The Prime Minister, at a quarter to ten

Government The House and thinned out. somewhat during the preceding two or three hours, but had become dansely crowded again in anticipation of the concluding remarks from the Leader of the House and the Leader of the Opposition. Again there wasnot an unoccupied sest in the Lords Gallery-s most musul thing at the end of a debate the Archbishop of Canterbury and the Earl of Halsbury being noticeable among those who had come to hear Mr. Asquith a Mr. Balfour. The Dis tinguished Strangers Gallery also remuned pretty well filled.

Mr. Loe described the motion as not so much a condemnation of the Government as an appeal to the Gerornment-a description which was greeted with Unionist cheers. "We are sincero,” he said, “in wishing, in the interests of both parties, in the interests of our national good name, that a division suggesting a conflict of opinion which I don't believe exists in our bourts as British citizens should be averted if possible." Amid rewed cheers from the Cu- jonists and a few unseemly jeers from the Liberal side he declared that the Opposition Leaders would be only too glad to have an opportunity of withdrawing the motion if the Government would reconsider the non possumia-any-one- attituds it had taken up in regard to the four

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The motion of censure was defeated by 353 votes to 135-a majority of 218. The announce ment of the figures was greeted by the Minis- terialists with loud cheers, and by the Unionists with cries of Croydon."

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Ia statements which lad produced the present dis- Borneo nature is so prodigal in her bounty that quietude. He declared with marked emphasis the aboriginal inhabitants, having no necesity that his conscience was perfectly clear, as his to work, have for generations bese accustomed statements had been made in reply to Mr. Balfour. to dread and despise it. Having made a grateful reference to Sir The jungle and the sea produce food in abun Edward Grey's defence of the Ministerial posi-dance for those who know the secrets of natura tion, and gone once more through the figurs, he as the ustive does. Idleness and nomadic urged that the Secretary for Foreign Afaire habits produced picacy and rapine. A littla and given a conclusive answer to the demand later the Malay came, a keen trader, but soarce- made that the hypothetical" ships should in ly less indolent or more honest than the Dyak be laid down. The Prime Minister is and the Bajow. His method of trade was such suppond to resent the motion of censure almost that, if the native did not purchase the goods as much as if it were a personal attack upon him. on the terms offered, the latter asually get hiz Secretary for Foreign Affairs at once rose He certainly showed considerable feeling in his village burned and oily saved his life by hiding to reply, Sir Edward Grey is seldom soon treatment of it now. The motion can mean in the jungle. in the House nowelays, and it is still rarer only one of two things," he acidly remarked: But when the white man gained a foothold, for him to speak. When he does lift up his "the House distrusts either intelligones or and there came to be some safely for person and voice he is always listened to with the keenest our good faith." "It meam." he continued,property, the Chinese trader began to spy out the interest and attention, for he is regarded BLA › ene "that in the opinion of this House we ass not land. Once established, the integrity and busi- of the strongest and most capable men now on worthy of the responsibility or adequate to the ness ability of the Chinese merchant soon ousted the political stage. He was never a brilliant trust which we hold. It mans that in our the piratical Malay, and with the exception of a speaker, and possesses none of the showy quall-hands the security of the constry is not afe." few Indians, the Chinese have no rivals in their ties of some of his colleagues in the Government. Here there were Unionist cheers, with counter-trade with the natives. The peculiar healthi-

The decorative treatment of Windows may It is perhaps partly for this reuon that he is cheers from the Liberals. It means," Mr. ness of Sandakan and some other of the Eure generally be taken as an inder of the artistic the most generally trusted of all the Cabinet Asquith went on, "that you must look plee-pean settlements, in British North Borno istomperament of the household, and an indien Ministers. Without being a phrase maker or a where and he waved A chatemptuous hand due to two cases. First, the constant sea tion is given from the outside glance of what speaker who plays on the feelings of an audience, towards the Front Opposition Benchas fit breezes (which penetrate an extraordinary dis the interior decoration will be like. Nowadays he is never at a loss for the right word, and his and worthy custodians of the national destinies." tanes inland), and second, the Chinese market this is made pleasantly easy for the woman of aímplo, direct manner of putting his case is He WEA enthusiastically sheered by the gardener, who is for ever pressing the jungle artistic instincts, the patterns and designs of oxtraordinarily effective. His speech yesterday Ministerialists when he recanad his seat. back. These vegetable growers buy jungle furnishing Draperies and the hangings of to was not only an admirably clear statement of "A nost judicious appeal to the party byal-land on the edge of a settlement, where it is day being invariably in good style. It is there the Ministerial position but the most powerfulty of his supporters,"

Balfour's very cheap, and proceed to caltirate. Then as fore an easy matter to make a correct choice defence

of that position which has yet been put sarcastic description of the dosing portion of the town grows this land becames valuable. Indies will find the Catalogue of Samue forward

the Prime Minister's speech. He admitted that So they sell it at a good proft, and buy more. Fesch Spas, The Looms, Nottingham, a ro

land further out.

Still, much more velation as to the development of the artistic in Sir Edward Grov began by deprecating the there LOVEF WAS on occasion on which such an Jation remains to be dons in Borneo.Window Curtains and other decorative ma use that he said was being made of the motion appeal was more required, but pointed out that for party purposes ontside the Houses remark it was not a substitute for argument, Mr. Thousands of acres of rich land are still terials. In this catalogue an exceptionally fine that drew loud and prolonged cheers from the Balfour donied with much emphasis that he was untouched. Roads sad railways are needed, and mugs is displayed of beautiful Draperies that Liberds. He went on to rebuke the Opposition actuated by party motiros in putting the motion directly they are completed the planter and the assist in making home attractive-Lace Cur leaders for having put down a a motion of Censure on naval deference without waiting till "the of the Unionists ennaval questions to show that is the matte of the State. If we would proper received a parcel of Messrs, Peach's New Price on the paper, and he referred to the past ution miner will follow them up. Fergo.et Perago Laine diferent from the old style and to harmo

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