HONGKONG SANITARY BOARD.
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A meeting of the Sunitary Board was held on May 14th at the Board Room. The Bon. Dr. J. M. Atkinson (President) provided, and there were also present Hon. Mr. W. Chathamn (Vice-President), Dr. Clark (Medical Officer of Health, Hon. Mr. A. W. Brewin (Registrar General), Dr. H. McFarlane (Asistant Medical Offer of Health), Hoo. Mr. Mr. A. F. A. Hewett, Mr. H., Humphreys,
Mr. Fung Shelton Hooper, Mr. Lan Cha-pak, Wa-chun, and Mr. G. A. Welecek (cretary). THE CATTLE DISEASE AT PORFULAM, The PRESIDENT, in moving the adoption of the minutes of last meeting, mentioned that no fresh cases had occurred amongst the cattle at the Dairy Farm, and all infooted cattle were now dend and buried. Therafore they hoped that the outbreak war at an end.
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Mr. HOOPER-How many have diod? The PUENTEN-Eight
THE HONGKONG DAILY PRESS, WEDNESDAY, MAY 15TH. 1907.
side windows, etc., and then no question was raised as to back yards.
After consideration, at a previous meeting, the Board recommended that the houses be treated as special cases and that no proceedings be taken to enforce the provisiour of acetion 175. In a letter, dated April 23rd 1907, the Colonial Secretary informed the Board that the recommendation had not been approved of.
This AR communicated to Messra Palmer and Turner, who again wrote asking that the Medical Officer of Health should inspect the promises.
Mr. SHELTON HOOPER minuted that as the ficvernor-in-Council was unwilling that the matter should stand aver pending the publics. tion of the report of the Commission, be con- sidered that the modilestion originally asked for should be granted.
Me Lat CHU-PAK-I agree with Mr. Hooper.
useful object would be gained by considering the latter until it is made apparent that the existence of the branch hospitals and dispensaries which have been already established is produo. ing an effoot in the mitigation of the oril. (3) It was because the periodical returns furnished to the Government stowed that no such effect hospitals and dispensaries that the Colonial hd as yet followed the institution of these Secretary's letter of the 6th ultimo was by Sir Matthew Nathan's direction, addressed to the Board. (4) As a misapprehension appears to exist among the members of the Board on the subject of the reason for the dumping of dead bodies, I may state that the Police Department cu farnish abundant evidence that such dumping existed in an aggravated form prior
of plague. to the year 1894, and the institution of measures for the prevention and mitigation
Mr. Lau CHU-rx minuted: Before IBM i my memory serves me correctly, only the bodies of the infants of the most ignorant class of ware Bumped, where superstition Chinese prevailed over common sense, bat ant the Amongst the bodies of grown up persona: better class, their infants when seriously sick or in a moribund state wore generally sent to the number of abandoned bodies picked up, And their where they were picked up.
21 years. A* I ages, during the last said bofore, the question requires carofal inves.
Comparison between number of deaths and number of abandoned bodies in 1905 and 1906:
Year deaths. Abandoned bodies. Percentage.
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13 1906 8087 14-47 1905 in 6; 1906-2 in 11. Plague and small-poz in 1906, number of deaths in the first quarter of the year.
Jautmey February BEur... Total
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Of the 86 deaths from plague 59 (or 60 per THE REGISTLAR-GENERALMr. Chairman, cont.) nccurred in two out of ten districts,
following, motions move the I beg to
1. That in the opinion of this Board the standing in toy name ; — largo increase in recent years in the number of dead bodies placed in the streets is due to the sanitary measures adopted cinco 1894against
·pox. and smail. plugnt reduction in the number of deat bodies placed in the streets can be effected only That to obtain the effective co-operation by obtaining the assistance of the Chinese.
That a
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The PRESIDENT -The matter is practically eationISTRAR-GENERAL-The following regarding the bodies which were found in the | Al hough during the last few years the Chinese
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undertaken by the Registrar-General and the easy. On one hand we have to me the require. to infectious disease is necessary, and that such
ments of the law complied with; on the other a revision is called for on other grounds as well. With regard to Mr. Hooper's minate, I may say I have asked the Secretary to ask you that pre tells our work lice, to use a fam ROBINSON PIANO to bare a return drawn up giving these fonts expression, batween the devil and the deep 295,
CO.. LTD. streets. None of the returna I have compiled hors bad those dispensaries to help them, the particulare relating to the practice of abandon-
The fact romains that many restrictions are imposed ing bodies in the streets, etc, and ita connection show actly what Mr. Hooper wirben. with infectious dissose have bean collected from resclatious I propran, and whisk, I hups, the by the sanitary laws in fores. I can say last if the annual sanitary reports, the plague reports, Board will adopt, are in auswer to these dispensaries were not in existence there A minute was wabraitted by the SECRETARY and the reports of officers in charge of Colonid Sooratory'a lottor. I have filtli would have besu more damping than there has
Smallpox In 1983 on: of 41 tond to what I said at the last meeting, worldaries. Chinese cases of malipo 23 or 56 per cent were and, think, the figures in your possession found abandoned in the streets. Plague are in favour of the theory I bring forward
We have received a letter stating settled. that the applivation was not granted, Mr. EHRLTON floorER-Quite so. Mr. LAU CHU PAн seconded. The motion was carried.
THE OBNOXI.UB SECTION.
relative to section 175 of the Public Health and Buildings Ordinance, 1993, in which he stated: I do not anderstand clearly what the
The PRESIDENT explained that this was an application for exemption and at modi THE CUBICLE QUESTION AGAIN, A letter from the Colonial Sacratary on the fieation.
Mr. SHELTER HOOPER-The late Governor question of Chinese cubicles read as follows
stated that the report of the Commission would "I am directed to invite the attention of the
be laid on the table at the next meeting of the Sanitary Board to the proviec contained in section 151 of the Public Health and Building Legislative Council, and as the orders are out the contents. It would be interesting to know of the Chinese a revision of the bre-laws ralating | Chinsao members is for from being pleasant or i Ordinance which, to judge from the represents fixing the meeting for Thursday, I beg to tions recently made to the Gcserument, does more that the matter stand over until that
tappear to have been availed of by the Bowed mesting is held. in dealing with
ti cubicle question. I am bow to suggest, as a pruotical means for giving as mtoh latitude in the s of cubicles as is compatible with reasonable sanitary require. ments to the poorer classes of Chinese inhabiting ienement houses, that the Board by means of Home of its officers institute a house to house inspection and decide what number of cubicles might reasonably be allowed to be erected ench door, and there and waintained ou after make recommendations accordingly for modification or exemption by the Governor in Cour cil.
Mr. A SHELTON HOOPER minuted-A very eensible suggration.
Hon. Mr. HEWITT- The cubicloquestion has boon one of the primary causes which has given rise to the complaints against sanitary laws This matter bhs been fully dealt with in the report of the Public Health and Building Ordinence Commission, which it is understond will be shortly publisheil. The lotter from the Colonial Secretary should not be replied to until the Board bes had au oppertunity of considering the report of the Commission.
Mr. Lau CHU-PAR-Something like this have been done by those responsible for should the carrying out of the sanitary laws.
The KEGISTRAR-GENERAL-I would like to bear what the Commission have to say in the subject before I sousidor that letter.
Mr. SHRLTON HOOPER-Uan you inform the Board, Mr. President, what the recommends tiens of the Commission in this respect are?
The PH BIDENT-- I cannot.
Mr. SuSLTON HOOPER-I know, as do several of my colleagues, but I thought it only fair that the officia! members should know. If you are not in a position to inform them I think there is no alternativo but to let the muniter sland over.
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The PRESIDENT This question bas abroads in dealt with. As gentlemen recollect, à resolution was recently passed appointing a sub committee to consider applications for the retention of cubicles, and to not on the recommendation of the M. O. H. in granting these Thara la no doubt that the matter is very urgent, In recent years the Board has not taken advantage of this proriso I think it they might have dono. would be well to appoint certain offers to assist the M. O. H. in this work. I would suggest Mr. Carter and inspector Lamble and Inspector Lyons to assist the A, M. O, H, in Kowloon. A hours to house visitation with the object of scortaining the maximum number of cubicles which may be allowed in the upper floors of Chinese bouges is a proposition to which no one can object, as there can be no doubt that the curtain cubicles are more harmful from * sanitary point of view than the previous wooden cubicles.
Mr. SHELTON Hoorns-I am prepared to second this if you leave out the names of the officers, and let us discuss the names later con. Adentially.
THE PERSIDENT-Very good. Resolution carried.
THE BUSPENDED INSPECTOns.
An important letter was read from the Colonial Secretary, as follows:-
I am directed by His Excellency the Ofoer Administering the Government to state for the information of the Sanitary Board, that as a result of investigations initialed by the Public Health and milding Ordinance Commis- zion, charges of brihary were proferred en various oco sions agaidat Messrs. F. Ward. S. Kelly, J. R. Lee, T. P: Conolly, P. T. Lamble aud F. . Ary. nspectors in the Sanitary Department; and these foars with the excep. tion of Mr. Lamble-the charge against whom was held to be not proved-were after due the Gorernor-ia Conseil inquiry suspended by from the exercise of the functions of their office, and their cases reported to the Secretary of State for the Colonies, with a view to dis- missal from the Public Servies. Lord Elgin concurred in the suspausion and dismissal of Messrs. Ward, Loe, Conolly and Amy, but not Kelly, who, however, will not be again employed in the Sunitary Roar!"
The PRESIDENT proposed that the letter should be laid ou the talde.
Mr. HOOPER-Have the Press got it? The REESIDENT-They have seen it. Mr. HOOPER The reason why I asked was because the Press cannot always get papers, At times when they ask for them they are informed that they are out.
The letter was laid on the table.
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That they have done good work, and bee. are still doing it, there can be no doubt. Every TALKING day they give away [medisines free of charge
to which are supplied to the Government, bears and and hundreds of people.
has increased greatly in with the arrangereut of half kitchen and half of bodies of persons who had died from plagne to thethecry that poverty is the cause of bodies record kapt by the Rogistrar-General, copies of
in argue that poverty
Hon. Mr. HLWETT-With regard to the remarks made by tho hon. Registrar-j verandah in lion of half kitchen and half yard. picked up in the strepta, eta, to the total number being douped, unless you are prepared to After pointing out that the arrangement of of reported cases of plague was in 1893, 23.1; in half kitchen and half veranlah must be treated 1899, 242; in 1900, 29.5; in 1901, 19.7 in Hougang of recent years. As regards part testimony to what I have just said (Applaus:); us a special case, he proceeded: What I desire to 1902, 24.6; sud in 1903, 31.7 per cent. In other two I can only reiterate what I said before,
We cannot acquiesce in the Generat had been a little more dranite when
of affairs. We know in whether the Board, in treating the reports the percentage is given in 1996 na 23.0; that we abandened the extraordinary police General and other members I beg in the first arrangement of half kitchen and half verandah in 1698 on 36.0 and 25.1 in 1809 as 43.0; in messres and there is no chance of trying plaes to say that I wish th in einst move, and the only line of move, speaking of the changes to be made in the by- It would have rather helped us if some as a special case, mekee the recommer dat oa sub-1909 as 57.3; in 1906 as 28.0; in 1905 a 18.4 them again. ject to the conditice that the work of opening. per cent. In Kowloon in 1904, 100 deaths from presat abominable state
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per cent were found abandoned in the streets, men possible is to chtain the cooperation sort of scheme had been put before us by the Chinore. I am satisfied that the Registrar General as to the lines on which up half verandah is put in hand at once, or plague were registered, and of there 50 bodies or
we should work, That some change should be whether this work is to stand over pending!
ing registered in Kowloon was 1,164. Of this cooleration of the leading Chinese the consideration of the report of the Ceramin. In 1904 the total number of Chinese leaths of the sion. If the Board insist on the work being number 107 or 35 per cent were donths of persons be obtained in enforcing any reasonable sanitary made is apparent by the number of dead whose bodies had been picked up in the streets, masures, but that does not take us very far, bodies rinnped in the streets; we should make
use we must Brat satisfy the mass of the regulations to do away with a crying evil. LARGE AND VARIED ASSORTMENT done at once, and the Government after con- sidering the report of the Commission does not
"The REGISTHAR GENERAL submitted the Chinese, and the leading Chinese must first obtain Peracnally, I am of opinion that the Amend section 175, the applicant can legally stc, be compiled to open up that half of kitchen following retures rajatise to the burials without their assistance. They cannot do so, however, ments made by Sir Henry Blake were highly formal inquiry and the births of Chinese:le we convince them that our sanitary successtal, and should have been carried ou which he had converted into a verandab. In azy esse, it the procedure is followed, all those
now, no doubt a great deal of good would 1906; identity of bodies stoms and prejudices. We must recollect that the mass is by no means enlightened.
We will havo to amend our regulations, Magistrate's return of buriale without formal secures pay due regard to their religious, If something of the same sort were donsagsin We have to persuade our friends to assist us, They are altogether too stringent, and as long inquiry, 1887 to unknown.
and they will have to persuade their fellow
RS We insist on them, so long will wo countrymen and put pressure on them which
find the Chinese dumping dead in the streets. we cannot. That is the object of the third I am sure, I, and I hope we all thoroughly part of my resolution.
We must have a reappreciate the good work done by the Registrar vision of our bye-laws not only because General and the gentlemen working with him. want the co-operation of the Chinase, but
and I think it is altogether wrong that privato because the bye lawe at present are ineffective in trying to bring about a better state of affairs, and not suited to local circumstances, nor to the individuale should be called upon to incur an social life of the Chinese. When I ask the expenditure which shenld fall upon the rate Board, as I now de, to pay regard to esone
payers of Hongkong, I think it i mical considerations, to substitate a lower to form some sort of regulations under which standard which wo mey reasonably expect the prejudices and superstitions of the lower to maintain, in place of a high ene which class Chinese could be eu ped with, and that the we know in practice will bever or soldon be acted up to, I only repeat what the late 17. expenses of these dispensaries should all be mot of the public funds. I should be very glad Russell of Glasgow raid about disinfection. indeed to see a sub-ommittee of the Board Burely I have ample acieutific authority for ask-formed to consider mattors, and to frame at i ing our expert advisers to reconsider their earliest possible date some sobome to be sub- It is the only means for obtaining mitted to the Government. No doubt in the sttitude.
the Chinese, the assistance and co-operation and without this awsistance and co-operation we past we have not done what we might have done in obtaining the no-operation of the Chin, and this is the position at the present moment are simply marking time. We may detect und casa, but that does not tend to detection there is an enormous increase in the damping
If wo secure the co-opers of dead bodies. second. of the
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The VICE-PRESIDENT-The resolution is tion of the community in notifying cases, Ratio of the number of burials wout formal notification of one case naturally leads to the worded in an extraoxinery manner. Anyone notification of more, and at last we are in sight reading it would be forced to the conclusion that inquiry to Chinese population.
of some progress.
sanitary measures adopted and carried out Mr. FONG WACHUN-I have much pleasure had been forced upon the Board in some way. in seconding the resolution made by the Bat bye-laws providing for these measures Registrar-General, and in doing to hope the
not gather the impression that have been passed by the Board, and the Board amend them whenever it in its power Chinese members of the Board wish that the thinks it. I don't see that the wording of the principles of the sanitary administration of the resolution is given in the form one would expect, Colour should be made to suit the zednested and I don't see that it should be necessary for were oppressive or non-effective. Chinese. We do our utmost to get our masser
to
special asses, no matter whether the Board recommend exemption or an arrangement of half kitchen and half verandah, will have to be m-considered after the report of the Com mission has been considered by the Gov- I beg to suggest that the present ornment. procedure be altered, and that the Board in those cases where it is of opinion that exemption might be granted, apply to the Governor-in-Connell for anthority not enforce section 175. and in those cases where an arrangement of half kitchen and half verandah. would be satisfactory, apply for authority not to enforce section 75 on condition that this work is carried out. In both cases the decision should be final, and no time limit, fixed. I further suggest that the Board recommend that sub-section 175 (4) be deleted, and that the If this were dono sub-section 175 previo of sub-section 154 (9) bo rubatituted therefor, (1) would read as follows, and the Board would, with the consent of the Governorin Council, be able to exempt special onsas from the requirement of section 175. At premut neither the Governor-in-Council nor the Board has the power to exempt, even in these cases where Go useful purpose would be served by enforcing the requirements of section 175.Provide that the Board, with the consent of the Governor-in-Council shall have power in all cases to the modification of or exemption
great from the requirements of this section upon each conditions, if any, as the Board may doem expedient ".
Mr. SHELTON HICOPEE minated--Is it al present necessary for the Board to apply to the Governor-in-Conseil for authority pot te enforce section 175? What suthority has the Govarner-in-Council to compel the Board to enfores this section P
Mr. LAU CRU-PAR-A very sensible sugges- tion. The Board can refrain from taking action in special cases without troubling the Governor-in-Council,
The REGISTEAL-GENERAL-I am not snea thut the Supreme Court could rot compel naofficial members to enforce the law. I am sure the Government can compel Government
to do 60. Servants
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No. of Parceni- deathe of age of Chinese coluton registered: 2 & 3. 1887 195 5,071 1888 271 5,785 J889
116 4,407 1890 136 4365
211 1891
5.183 1892 999 4.722 1893 235 5,230 1979 1894
7,156 1895 283 5,209 1896 4110)
5,607
2,559*
41
1,201
1,320 1.48
1897
490
4,484
1898
907 5,983
17
1899
901 5,941
15
1900 1.023 0,471
15
1.03
1901 1,088
8.670
16
1,62
1902 1,114 1903 1,307 1964 1,150. 1905 1,139 1908 1,820
⚫ deaths
6,451
174
5,875
.
143
$ 882
193
6,290 8,087
18
304
Year.
1801 1897 1901
210,995 283,280 991,786*
Number Percontage Chinese burial of col. popaiation, out for 3 to col.2 joquit
10%
21%
37
780
59%
198 3+7,388*
*Inclusive of New Kowl and exclusive of the rest of the Now Territy
Number of births of cinese registerǝd în the year 1887 to 1906.
Year. No. of birth Year, No. of births,
1897. 1898-
1887
1828
1511 7469
1125
963
1889
1899 1502
852
1890
1450
1900
678
1891
1529
1901
848
1660
1909
966
1898
157
1903
691*
1894 125
11 1895 1896
1904
799*
1965
760*
1906
901
1802
Mr. HOOPER-With regard to cases coming under section 175, I would ask members to The official members allow sach to stand over till the report of the Commission is out. being deprived of the information 1 and my analficial colleagues bare, I think it places them in a very inferior positing. With ference
minutes regarding the Governor-in- Kowloon. the Council, I think I am only quoting the law when I say that the Governor-in-Council has no power to compel is to enforce any section of this Ordinance, because it does not come under his notice till we apply to him. If we don't comply with any section of this Ordinance, it is open to any ratepayer to apply to the Bapreme
art for a mandamus compelling us to do so. Under the circumstances I think no further discussion should take place until the report is out, and it has to be out by Thursday,
Mr. HONPHBETE-I would like to add, that ander existing conditions when the Board!
recommendation to the Council, and refers &
is ignored by the that recommendation Governor-in Conneil, a majority of the Board The RHOISPEAR-GENREAL reported
Public Dispensary have a great deal of Influence with the follows:-The Chinese Committee wish to make use of a detached Governor-in-Council, but it so happens that a building on M.I.L 198, Hunghom, umbered minority of the Board is capable of setting 86A, Hunghom Wost, as a District Plague aside anything a majority bas decided. This lat Hospital. Certain repairs and alterations will posi ion I don't care to take (laughter). I have to be effected and I recommend that the agree with Mr. Hooper that the Board is not building be approved (subject to these being compelled to refer the mattor to the Governor made) as place in which plague may be in-Council.
treated.
In another letter Mr. DDEWIN wadea similar recommendation, subject to auch alterations as
tto Assistant Medical Oficer of Health might
suggest.
BACK FARD REQUIREMENTS.
Consideration of the question was deferred. MORTALITY STATISTICS.
The returns for the week ending April 10, commani y the death rate was with 29.5 in the corresponding week of last year, and that for the whole Colony the dosth rate was 21.0 ae corapared with 24.9 in the corresponding wook of last year.
1907, showed (bat in the Briis 16.4 compared
DOMPING THE DEAD,
Eight syplications for exemptions from the requirements of section 175 of the Public Health and Building Ordinance were before the Board, The most important was one in which Messrs.
A further letter from the Government, dated of Messrs. Siems Palmer and Turner, on bakati of sen and Company, asked for a modification with 3rd May, relative to dead bodies found cast regard to No. 112 Wing Lok Street and 320 away in the street was submitted se follows:---- Des Voeux Road. Noties had been served on Sir, I am directed to acknowledge the receipt. the architect requiring that back yarde should of your latter of the 1st instant, from which it be required, though this would mean the removal is inferred that the Sanitary Doard bas no of half the kitchen floors and roofs. The houses, suggestions to offer for the mitigation of the grave nuisance and outrage to decency com submitted Messrs. Falmer and Turner, were corner houses, well lighted and ventilated for mitted by the Chinese population in the whole-depth by windows opening into away large numbers of their dead. (2) Morrison Street, The enforcement of the appears that two remedies were suggested to the section would ruin the houses for the purposes Board-one, the cremation of abandoned corpses, for which they were built-tea houses. Come the other the institution of more Chinese branch few months prior to the application for a modi- bospitals. I may atata that the Government, fication (November, 1900) plans were submitted as at present advised, does not propass to to the Sanitary Bened for the enlarging of the adopt the former, and that if fails to see what
sinese
No of birth For 100 of pop'in'.
1529 1125
7.2
4.8
843
3.1
801
2.8
Dritish Year. op'n'. registered 1801 230.995 1897/233,280 1901/ 274,543 1906 289,552*
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assistance which, as I stated, at the last meeting seems impossibla to obtain in this question of cubicles. That has already bean tried. Early in 1903 we went so far as to erompt houses, ex-
That was a great cepting the floor on which the cases of plague had been discovered.
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sion. Later the ofloors of the Board assisted Sir Henry Blake in his cleansing scheme. These operations were commenced in 1903, and which, I think, bore been most effectual in dealing with the plague. With regard to isolation, I think, more might have been done by the Registrar General and the Chinoso members of the Board, and alan by the committee of the Tang Wa hospital if, instead of opposing as, they had tried to explain to the Chinese
The REGISTRAL-GENERAL interposed an abjection which was not audible.
The PRESIDENT-You have stated these
The REGISTRAB GENERAL--I have never statul they were oppressive.
The PRESIDENT will not admit that they If more
measures were appressive,
General and the Chinese members of the Board, to comply with the ranitary regulations, but at the Beard to put forward any each resolution, an assistance had been rendered by the Registrar the same time, I think, the Board should not the redy lies in its own hands. indict any hardship on them. It has been proved that most of the bodies found in the streets were not plague cases, which tends to show that the stringent messures taken by the scare the Chinese. If the authorities savitary
of the Registrar-General were put resolutions into effect, and the by-laws revised so that the solitary regulations would be less severe, I am sare the Board would receive the hearty co- operation of the Chinese.
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Mr. HOOPER-When I first read these I think this dumping would rever hare beau so resolutions I was quite nader the impression bad as it is at present. To prove that the our procedure during the last ten Since these plague measures wero that the Registrar General bad soon the report byelaws have not been ineffective I will give you of the Commission. At any rate I can say that an online these resolutions suggest things which I am years
not very inconsistent with the brought into fores the number of cases has handa diminished very cousilerably. In the years will be in document which of members of the Beard within three from 1903 to 1905 the average number of cases days. As an Englishmen here, and a member was 541, while in the three years before that the of this Board, I coast say that I don't like the average was 11 beings have bou effecting
in the second resolution. I think that proves that the byelaws been e word only Mr. LAU CHU PAR-I heartily support these if you (Registrar. Feneral) will cut out the word and th t the measures taken have been more or Bucovesful. With reference to the present resolutions, which, in my opinion, embody
ir co-operation, orly, and say we will ask their nothing but facts and common sense. The
to the dispensaries about which so much severe outbreak. Last year the outbreak wa *Exclusive births registered in New report of the Commission, when published, will regard to the dept with my approval. With year it seems we are not going to have any no doubt shed further light on these statements. has been spoken, it has been suggested that they more than it was in the two previous years, a As regards Chinese co-operation, I may evail should be provided by Government at the public fact which was sesonated for by the scarcity myself of this cpportunity to say a faw Ratio of his to population.
not the resulta will be arrangements. I am convinced we have gone about the public dispensaries, or the Tung expense. I am heartily in sympathy with that of water interfering with the closi
suggestion. Whether Wa branch hospitals as they firet worth the trial, and the time and money ex far enough in the way of concessions, if What money is nul too far, and I hope the Board will not called.
There dispensaries were started pended, time alone will
Prover about three years
Hou. Mr.sk, should be expended on these dispens. make these byelaws any less stringent than ago by the
We have gone as far us we can Brewin and the Chinese members of
way of concessions. The that S 7 out of every $20 is supplied by Chinese,possibly go Beard, with no other object in view this aries? The public rates, A ud when it is admitted that the to assist the Government in stopping the damp. I think we ought to expend a little at any rate, itegistrar-Ganoral referred to what was being ing of dead bodies; to bring within easy reach and give them an opportunity of experimenting dous in India, but the last figures show that of the lobearing class of the Chinese the and showing what they can do. It is only reason plague in worse there than aver it was, so benefits of European science; to help them to
them in connection with the admirable work car been instituted there. No one can say that dispose of dead bodies and to save for their sick able to let them have there dispensaries and run it would not be wise to adopt the pole, bo that in a proper and legal marner; and last of all tried on by the medical anthorities in this Colony, plagus has increased in Hongkong. If you lighten them at en dispensaries are entirely Personally, my opinion, when I read the donumont wish to o mpare ogantries uear at band. I have eauitery laws. These dispensaries are entirely was, that cremation was the best thing to do. I only to mention Formoss where the results show supported by subscriptions raised amongst think it is out of place for 15 cue to claim that plague is just as severe there as it was Mr. HOOVER asked if the President had What assistages the respect and reverence for the dead when people three or four years ago. Chinees residents. The Government bes not Government has given is that the committee so far forget those who belong to them, and
dump- their bodies in the streets, and leave heard regarding plague at Cantou.
I am The PRESIDENT replied that there were no paid $7 per square foot for a small site to erect dispensary at Kau U Fong, and when a small them to the four winds of heaven.
quite willing that a trial should be given to reliable figures from Canton, and added that Increase 80 per cent. 245 per cent. piece of ground was applied for, for depositing the tea dispensa-ies and if, after having given the disease was worse in Macao and Gauten dead box and ambulance the Government re- the Chinese as many dispensaries 19 satisfied this year than in Hongkong. Halso pointed Thember of bodies other thau Chinese in luctantly granted a temporary lease of five or
to ourselves the right to take whatever further Europeans as to Chinese. negligle. In 1893 the total was 11; in 1897, six fost below the level of the street, which them, damping continued, we should reserve out that the same measures wore meted out to With reference M. LAU CRU-PAK interposed with the was most unsuitable for the purpose. After ae ion we consider necessary. Abdoned bodies in the streets, etc., and
a great deal of trouble the Registrar General to the by-laws we are asked to revise, remark that the officers did not behave in such
that they are in Chinone. this six of these dispensaries. This number is far
The PRESIDENT was convinced that mara and the Chinese members succeeded in opening think, Sir, that after the experience, you had an inconsiderate manner in European houses as
big рора- too small to meet the wants of
bud, but the grievances good would have resulted from the discussion Belros lation, and to restore the confidence of the capable of revision. The sanitary lay them- Chinese in & bert time, which the doings offered have ben due to the harsh and if the Registrar-General and the Chinese been members had suggested in what way the bye- of the Board during
the least thirteen years partial manner in which they have have taken away. It is admitted that to lose administered by the lower oilcers. I am lows conld be amended to the satisfaction of the
difficult to regain
offers. If Chinese, fidence is very easy, batitis very diffic
the lower officers had exercised more dia- it. Now, Leonrding to the tone of the Colonis! not speaking of the bigher
it reoretary's letter to the Board,
Mr. AU CHU-PAN minuted: These gares bear the statement that dumping is due to the stitution of measures for combatting plagt I doubt that the four and a half per centrevious to 1904 were not in the majority of the bodies of newly bors infants.
heollowing tables regarding the dumping deadbodies by the Chinese were considered. diesound on
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18 ...
Lani
195 861
Harbour
40
138
and Bloom, in 1905 and 1907-Fox in Victoria
VICTORIA.
A. B. C. Total 614 180
796 624 132
203 756
KOWLOON.
15 B
259 98 10 451 199 97
108
236
...
A uifius number of abandoned bodies; Courison between number of abandoned B canf plague; C small-por. bodied number of cases of plague and small in the first quarter of 1906 and 1907.
VICTORIA.
A. B.
Total.
171 92
87
179
222
· 138
IM
KOWLOON.
69
35
87
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Mr.
HUMPHREYS pointed out that the
the efforts sad labour of the Registration, and shown more consideration for the increase of plague prior to 1908 was probably the Boxer rising and other General and the Chiness merabere, intload of feelings of the Chinese, we should have heard due to the influx of population from the
The REGISTAR-GENCEAL having replied, the and obtaining a helping hand from them, hava In these circumstances I heartily support the troubles. called forth adverse criticism which almost resolution, provided the word "only" is cut out.e
The PRESIDENT--1 earning the appreciation of the Government less complaints from the Chinese than wo have land, owing
of bringing forward agistrar-General ought to have formulated the alteration that he wished to be made in the bye explain that life. When we have reached the lavra. With reference to the motion, No, I is snoret of life in even its humblest forms--it
explaining life at its highest. correct; Na 2 refers to obtaining Chinese will, perhaps, be time enough for us to talk of
amounts to ridicule. Sir, I think I may Président that instead with the Vice- vola was taken, when all three resolutions wer
be pardoned for saying that such an attitude on the part of the Government discourages those motion of this sort, which is very indefinite, the who spend time, money and brains, not for their own amusement or personal profit, but for the general welfare of the Colony. At the same i time it must be borne in mind that the work
carried.
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