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The discussion on the Supply Bill was opened by the Hon. Mr. E. A. Hawett, followed by the Heu. Mr. Greston, and contioned by
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THE HONGKONG DAILY PRESS, SATURDAY, SEPTEMBER 2920, 1906.
call in a great deal of outside assistance to fectly satisfied that that in itself will fail tɔ į this matter wil be carefully considered by the enable large works in progress to be carried pply the needs of the Colony, and pot the department responsible for it. Another minor out. The Kowloon Water Works were carried next generation, but the one after it will have point referred to was the expenditure of.82,400 ont under the supervision of Mesara. Denison, to consider fresh water supply, sohomes. This in payment to the police for supervising the Ram and Gibbe, who have also bewu ongaged as has been a progressive Colony, and we hope it work of the shroffa in the villages in the Now architecte for the new Post Office, and the will continue to be . So long as it is pro. Territory. Owing to the lack of supervision last works that หนู en put up year we had defalcations amounting to 84,900. Hon, Dr. Ha KAI-I do not propose to add to designs of the Law Courts have been prepared gressive, no
Several other works could be considered to meet future requies These shroffs have to work in various villages
works shonki the reumarks of my bon, vollingues as they have by a firm in England.
in the Naw Territory where thers is po one to minur character were also carried meats of the place, and no fally covered the whole extent of the ground.
outside therefore be paid for from loan. From this, anpervise them unless the police are appointed the supervision of ucder There is only one point to which I wish to refer
of earse, I except such works as the railway for that purpose. I am inclined to think that I was very sorry indeed to hear from my hoa foremon. It is hoped, Sir, that if may be friend on the right that thera is un hope of the possible to dispense will a great amount of new under construction. If the typhoon shelter 82,400 will be a rory reasonable insurance i
is not to be met by a lean and I think I
to pay against the loss we should incur Chamber of Commerce coming to the aid of the outside assistance is the future, but, of course,
have the majority of the Couvell with me through a few dishonest shroffs. Not only is Govorament on that most important question, it will be necessary, if that is to be done, and the speedy erection of a typhoon shelter. The it works which bon. members who have spoken that it should not be so uict, the question there that consideration but I remember the case whether additional taxation should be met by which led to this provision in the New Territory. reason advanced by my hon. friend was that requent should to undertaken on the basis of a it was acknowledged to be the principle allonts, it will he ascensary still further to increase assemal taxes or out of light door will have The villagers were largely swindled, and that I hardly think the hon.is esou more to be avoided than the Govern over the world that dues should not be levied the personnel of the Public Works Department, to be considered.
Mr. Wer Yux-1 wide to my a formumber who reprosents the Chamber of Commentloss (applause). There remains the question ou shipping for the purposes of general
merce can be allowed to have the last word referred to by the hon. member with sugard Now, this typhoon refuge is not words in support of my colleague's address. I will give serious
on that subject. He stated that the Colony to exchange compensation to civil servants. being "reeted for the purposes of generat hope the Government
It is a special kind of work which consideration to the question of speedily depended entirely on its shipping. I know Since the meeting of the 13th instant I have
that in the asual way of patling the case, received from the ecretary of State the rent dienaler has emphasised as being rurting a typhoon refuge.. I think Chang- Most necessary, and I think, notwithstanding shasan or Mongkokisui are the only safe places but is it really the correct way? Does set the following reply to the despatch addremed to
"Downing Street, the refusal of the Chamber of Commerce to for the erection of such a shelter.
The CAPTAIN SEPERINTENDENT OF POLICE Colony depend as much on its trade as its him on the 13th July aid the Government, that the Government
A word, Sir, a to the rotuntka which felt shipping Would the shipping exist, without its trade? I think not. The shipping makes should at 'nace dosing menox
its profits--and I imagine they are large ones from the hon. umber on my left regarding It refuge. reotion of this
the police. There is a very great difference from the Colony, and it is not clear by those profits, as well as the profits on trade, should not be taxed. At any rate, that is not between Hongkong and Shanghai in the matter of police. Hare we have to maintain a water He
matter I need settle of the present moment. police, which is a very expensive ilme. put the cost at $37,2; oren so he was woefully astray, as the cost is $90,000 a year, a kom of $58,000 ander personal emoluments and about 212,000 under other charges. Tho don, 1905, member's remarks about the Shanghai police refer to the cost of the fores in
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me, taking the recent calamity into secunut and the fact that the warning was given bour beforehand, lout or An half although it might have been given earlier by the Observatory, it would not, under the present eircumstances, have saved many of the distaler, because boating people from considering the long stages of water many of them had to cover, the chances are that
few world
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reached the
raluga.
estimates for this year, and find that they reckon this year to maintain 1,099 polier, call it 1,100-121 Europeans, 221 Indians, 600 Chinese regular polos, and apparently 14 European and 43 Chinese detectives. The badgut cont of that is Tsels $11,$10, which turned into dollars is between $560,000 and 8570,000, Putting it at 2500,000 you won't be very far Our budget for the police next year is 8543,810, call it $544,009. From that we must, in comparing the cast of our police with Shanghai, ent out altogether the cost of the water police for which they have an equivalent. Take 89,000 from 8541,000, leaving 3454,000, the cost of our land police. With that we maintain 785
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Tarning now from the question of the typhoon servents in question are no longer affected by shelter and the manner in which the expendi- the rate of exchange, and a reduction in the
HONGKONG CRICKET LEAGUE. ture requiend for that sh-l'oe shou'd be met fa
dollar value of imported articles mast presum..
The sinust meeting of the Hongkong Cricket the gene al statistica presanted by the hon.ably be only a matter of time if exchang*
coations to rule high. Moreover I would League was held at the Colonial Secretary's Mr. T. Sercombo Smith momtar at the foot of the table, I coof: I f and its Kittle dificult to grasp the general
Fail you of the atatement in your Despatch office last night.
(president) was in the chair, and there were No. 72 of the 20th. March that "house rent in rinoiple at which he was riming, but if I
the chief, if not the only, expense of livingatan present Messrs. A. B. Asgar (sporotary), 11, T. Jackman, representing the Civil Service which is not lower in this Colony than In most
Cricket Club, Inspector Withers, representing | others, where customs duties are levied and portion of the cost of administration to the 1 can hardly agree. Euoposing that is
where wages are higher, I am bound to add that
the Police, 8 Lightfoot, representing Kowloon, gweral erpenditar es excessive. With that
in my opinion the sesle of pay of Governmont
A. Ó. Brawn, representing Craigongower and of paying the P. and Q. $125,000 we paid thom as en roual rubsidy $150,000, and cut off
J. Hutton, representing the Army Staff. servante in Hongkong compares favourably with that obtaining in most other parts of the
The SECRETARY road the notice convening 25,000 from pers nuel by reducing the nam
the meeting, after which Empire, ber of pois and the frequency in the delivery
The PRESIDENT Sai-Gentlemen, this of letters, neording to the hop, member's method of reckoning, the Post Ono would bo
meeting has been convened in accordance with I can hardly think he means
rula 16 of the rules of the liongkong Cricket I sague which requires that the annual meeting more efficient. that, but I can hardly ace to what othe• con
shall be held in September every year when the slusion his remarks lead. As regards the special -e into which he went at somed stil, that of the police and the jail. I am sorry ha id not get the hon. member who represents the Chamber
It would be much better in fature if a couple of hours notice wero given to them to at little, but I have paid more attention to the fu: derstood it aright, he looks upon the pra them time to proceed safely to the refuge, and then a refage of similar size to that at Causeway Bay should be orooted in the Western district near Kennedytown three to the vacant place where they are now in the habit of landing cattle. In that case if only abort notices were given to the boating people, they woull have time to reach the refuge nearest them; that is to say, those harbour boats of Kennedytown would not have to make a long journey to the east, and perhaps be overtakoi by the storm Then, also, it would be easier for those boats werklug in the middle of the barbour to cut across to Bameheipo or Monkokteui nad obtain sholter, provided thers worn havous. there. feel strongly on this point, and hope the Government will, either by means of a loan or It will otherwise, undertake the work at once. aire conâdönce to the boating population, and will be very much appreciated by the whole of the Chinese community, especially the Boating population. I urge the necessity of this work not only on the grounds of expedieary, but un I am More Your the grounds of humanity. Excellency will, after the experience of the last ten days, give the attention to this guestion it
deservem.
I would observe, with reference to the suggration made in your Despatch ander reply, that sterling enisrins were introduced in order to
if I wore convinced of the mecessity of taking et rid of the system of making payments in dollars at detilines ratus of archange, and evou steps in the direction which you alroente. I
port and balance sheet for the past search alis in presented. You haza the report and
men-111 Europeans, 316 of Commerce to back him up, as that membon could not agree to any arrangetuents whereby balance sheet before you, andí propose that they!
Indians, and 13 Chiness, so that they have roughly speaking. 315 ore med than we have, and the cost ts Ebaughai is $102,000 more to maintain
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from bis experienes on the Shanghai Municipal Connoil would have certainly added great weight to the suggestion that our police were sxpensive compared with the police of Bhanghai (applauss).
that system would be revived.”
Governor,
(Sd) EILEN.
Sir Matthew Nathan, K.U.M.{}. ela. etc., etc., the Captain This question, A
Continuing, HIS EXCELLENer said--My Superintendent of Police points out, dependsuggestion was that which the ben, men very largely on the proportion of the different ber himself put forward sliding scale between a 1/8 and a 2 dollar. I am not disposed to ment a committee should be appointed to go into the the suggestion made by the hon. member that, question of ateil servants' salaries. Certainly I should not have appointed such a committes an official one at its members would naturally hesitate to make any suggestions which will however put hon. mombara' remarks before would involrs increases to their emoluments. I the hon. Secretary of State.
of Indiaus, the rest being made up of Chinese. { himself alated, the administration of thai | The only way we could save money would be department was under consideration
By
The motion that the Bill be read a second time was agreed to.
The COLONIAL SECRETARY moved that the The COLONIAL TREASUREE seconded and Bill be referred to the Finance Commit er. this was agreed to,
be adopted. I kare no remarks to make apon them, neither have I any remarks to makompon the past season, nor anything to say about the
The
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very wall conducivil, was ably represented by the hơn. Beretary and treasurer, Mr. Asger.
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Mr. WITHEHS seconded the motion, which was carried unanimously.
Mr. Ases proposed the re-election of Mr. Sercombe Smith as president of the Longue.
Mr. JACKMAN seconded, and the motion wa
agreed to nem, con.
The PERSIDENT proposal and Mr. BRAN seconded the re-election of Mr. Braidwood na vice presideat. Carried.
The ParatBNT moved the re-election of Mr. Asger as hon. secretary and treasurer. No recommendation was required from the speaker.
Mr. HUTTON seconded sad the motion wa agreed to.
Members then agreed that application for admission to the League this year should be limited to Saturday, 6th October, inclusive,
That rule i be amended by the following ndition: Nor until lists of members of each club in the League shall have beso sent to the hon. scoretary. Thut who new members join their names shall in like wander be sent in fo
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Mr. BEAN pointed out that last season! Det begin its eluba did of the league programme until December. He thought this was to be much deprecated because in the first place it took away the weekly records: in the second it gave the dub an advantage of getting the members together to practice; and in the third it caused a book at the close of the
to engage more Chinesa in place of Indians. competent commission, so that it would be out of place for us to go into the matter to-day. We might save a little money in that way because Chinese are cheaper than Indians Turning now to the remarks of the bon hai I am not in favour of it. I don't think it member representing the Chamber of Com- would be a good policy to adopt, and I do it wereo, he referred to the faulty policy of piling myself see how we can expect to eat down any up public works, treating it as if we were now postponing public works in a manner Eitherto expenditure on the polica,
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Friday, September 29th.
BEFORE MR. H. H. J. OMFRITZ (FIRST POLICE MAGISTRATE).
Roughly they maintain throu rights, more men that we do at an extr, cost of aliat two-ninths. There is no doubt that our polics cost more per heal then theirs
nationalities which constitute the population. do, but not so much as the hoa, momber on my loft makes out. The reason for this is This matter I considered some year and a apparent on the face of it. Their force is half ago when I had a long discussion will largely made up of Chinese, who are very regard to it with Mr. May, who had large The DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC Works-Sir, in much cheaper than Europeans and Indians, experience with the Police department. I same the course of remarks made by my hon. friend They have 121 Europeous while we have, to the conclusion, after bearing all bo kad to opposite he touched upon a few points which about 181. It is very necessary we should say, that our present proportion is a gootons of Euro asos bore because Reverting for the moment to the general One matter behave plenty concerned pablic works.
of the large number of stations we have question raised by the hon. member at the foot
Shanghai of the
рег table, who stated that 3) was the concrete at Blake Pier, scattered all over the Colony. referred to
personal very ompact place, Jess UT
thxtent of our expenditure is under roads, 60 which he described as being something like nin
and with excollant
ooncentrate the whole emoluments, it will be interesting to lear pond.
I cannot think, Sir, the condition of flat the surfacing is quite so bad as he represente it is possibé to
estimate for 1906 showed 20.7 per cent of the it to be. He must be perfectly well aware force in about twenty minutes in the most that following the same division Singapore's that where ground has been claimed from the remote fait of the settlement. We bave as sea as that has been during the past few years many as 35 stations sonttored all over texpenditure on personal emoluments: the actual there must be a settlement and for the sake of place, and at nearly every one it s necessary expenditure in Mauritius in 1903/64 was 27.83 a settlement of an inch or so in certain parts of that we should have a Eurapean in o argo, in Trinidad in 194495 30 per cent, and Malta and so it comes about we met bare pleaty 1904/03 34.7. so that if one proportion, in a bad one, at any rate it does not differ vory largely it, it would seem rather extratagant to go and
to Indians. Owing to ha from those of other colonies. The hon. membe, reconcrete that surface simply to get rid of a of Europeaza. The same remarks apply to a
great extent few all pools He also made a proposal that
numerous alat ons in the Now Territory, and in the course of his remarks tiede a violent the Government should consider the adrienbility the differest villages, we must keep plenty attack on the Banitary Department, but as he of having two sela of building regulations. It is perhaps worlby of some consideration, bat if you can make a set of regulations for Chinese exolusively, and another sot for Europeno buildings exclusively you will probably omil other blocks of buildings. There are several that would requires third set of rogulstions to deal with them. In the matter of roads, my hon. friend characterised them as a disgrace I would
Its EXCELLENCY-I will deal in the first in ask him if he had ever traversed the streets of London in the wet, and been spattered with stance with the remarks made by the hou Dr. mud from top to toe. Personally I consider Ho Kai and the bon, Mr. Wei Yuk. I shall the reads of this Colony are, generally speaking. endeavour to start the typhoon shelter in the in very good condition. he referred also to coming year (applause). I believe it is absolutely thus condition in which the portion adjoining necessary. It will take some time to select a the tramline is maintained. I wolkit that for site and to consider a satisfactory structure. some part of the time in the early days of the In the meantime I will consider how the
necessary expenditure can best be wet. Milli tramway thers were good grounds for cum- plaint, but I think that more recently the spite of what has fallen from the hou. Mr. reason with reference to the loan he said condition of the portion alongside the tramway
it was inexplicable that I should be averse to track has been maintained in better condition and I hope that the faci, called forth by the loan. I thought. I had explained my reasons ጋዜ aat some length at the mesting on the 13th remarks in this chamber, will not incentive to the manager of the Tramway instant. It is not necessary to repunt what I thou said but I will meet one of the arguments Company make greater efforts to main- tain the condition of the road for which that is commonly used in favour of a loan. he is responsible. My hon. friend on the left People any-"Why should we pay for what will remarked that no roduction had been shown bon-lit coming generations?"
think that is a fair way to put it.
Thursday evening. Dr. Swan presided, and thurs were present Musera, H. E. Goldsmith in the estimates for public works, though the work to be carried out by the Department should pay for what will benefit the next
(teretary), W. Curwin treasurer), P. W. Gold- ring, W. Martin, S. Lightfoot, W. L. Wenger, is shown to be somewhat less not than this generation in the same way as the past genera
J. E. Eilis, Logan, Stevenson, Kichardson, Hall, year. With regard to that he Las perhaps tiu al for the benefits which the present
1 yemember issue might bara bees justified, but really they considered the Bill clause by clause. generation enjoy (Applause. that under min
having been to that when the Tylom were becoming the main coinage of the Colour, Council resuming,
His BXCELLENT reported that the Bill Lud Sibbit, M'Kenzie, Lapılay, Captain Morris, and terance the estimate is increased 38,000 waterworks
construction. it
a coinage of which the face value was
H. Harrop, of Messrs. A. S. Watson and Co. li wo Lad passed through committos with one ouendment. others. The report laving been adopted, the election of the committee was proceeded with, was considered not only that that was the final for below the actual value. In next year's estimates In Public Works
The question of port revenues at Ewatow the appointments being Dr. Swan, Messra. H. charged a ricaba coolie with refusing to som Extraordinary the estimates show a decrease which, speaking from memory,
water supply, but also that the works were for of silver us the dollar, we should have been ibing over a quarter of a million. Of that
in eces of probable future requirements justified, also if we had made a reverse I threatens to become a source of perpetual H. Goldamiti, P. W. Goldring, and Richardson plate his journey. Complainant engaged a the coolie to wail while he went inside. When they
called do not think we were justified in issuing friction between the authorities and the zer- Mr. Falconer was dected chairman for the ricslis at the Ferry Wharf and proceeded to amount $150,000 is due to the resumption of
an indefinite amount of subsidiary coins of chants, and to involve the native magistrates exsning year, Mr. Lightfoot captain, Mr. Logen bis residence at Garden toad, where he toid
The hoary addition to treasurer, and Mr. Dag Chee, secretary. elephants.
he came outside again both coolie and riosha with the foreigner insanitary properties. The matter does not
had gone. call for sey great amount of engineering work works at the Tytom byewash were completed which the value was far below the face value. assessment on the port has never been
were added
to our On the minor paints referred to by the hon.. as regards the great expenditure of money.
26,000.000 gallons
have nearly
that the whole will be gathered before the com-member there is little for me to say. As I raised in such proportion as to justify hopes would also point out, Fir, that there are many
the 13th, we aro first section of tha Tytam slated in my remarks on questions affecting public works which must be supply, and considered in connection with the construction plated the
reservoir, which girės another cutting very few trees in the coming year. Four's and ln that the rapacity of the Viceroy of railway, for which no expenditure appears in Tak the public works' estimates. I would also point 198,000,000 gallons. We know that these are What my fear is, is that we shall presently seems to bave over-reached itself. Now the ent to my hon, friend that during recent years insufficient, and we are going to start a new find large areas of dead trees, and it would merchants have abandoned hope of raising the it has been necessary for the Government to reservoir of 1,200,000,000 gallons. I am per- mean vacant spaces for many years. However, money, and the authorities are preparing to
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GIUM ORDINANCE. The ATTORNEY-GENERAL Moved the second rending of a Bill outitled au Ordinance to amend the Prepared Opium Ordinance. He said-The principal object in introducing this ordinance is to inclule morphine and compound opium within the scope of the presunt law with The of this drag.
decisions which regard to the ele magistrates have given apparently bring these drugs within the meaning of the word opium and within the scope of the law in force, but there are doubts whether there decisions would be aphold if questioned It is obviously advisable to put beyond all doubí withi the have in the last few years been carrying out of opium do or do not come public works at a greater rate than in any privilges afforded to the Opine Farmer of the Another object of the Bill is to establish ander
supervision a bonded previous Colony. Of course we have been spending Government more, monsy but not only that, we have hoenhouse for opium and compounds of opium At one time spending a greater proportion of our revenue introduced into the Colony. thas for many years past. In the year 1896 we the authorities required the Opinin Farmer to spout 18.77 per cent of our expenditure en provide a bonded warehouse. II did not do public works; in 1897 25.04; ju 1898 18.24; in fan sud pressure was put upon him to rezke him 189 13.41; in 1900 21.64; in · 1901 19.96; in do so. Ultimately we came to the conclusion 1902 30.22; in 1989 25.38; in 1904 33 40 and that a warehouse should be provided by the then this last year I think it was about 34.00 Government and that the Opiam Farmer should per cent. That shows we have been sponding be permitted to estal fish one also if he desired Bis establishment would of courso be a far greater proportion of our revenue on to do so. public works in the last few years than in this under Government rules and regulations. The As a healthy principle of the Bill shortly is to bring the years preceding. I look upon sign that we are spending about one-third of provisions of the law with respect to arrest, car revenus on pablic works, sad I hope wa mareh, seizure and disposal of morphine and
I companyds of opiura iuto operation. shall not fall far below that proportion.
The COLONIAL SECRETARY secouded, and disagree with the han, member that this Colony
The Council wout into committer, and On the was justified in issuing $10,000,000 of Fubsidiary the motion was agreed to. ruins. If they had been subsidiary cuias the
word which bed to be said on the subject of the issued subsidiary coins of the same proportion SORDO-
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the programme. He proposed that the com- mast begin its league pregrem not later than mitten be instructed to arrange that every club
November 1st,
Mr. LUTFOOT seconded the motion, and pointed out that the reason the Kowloon clab did not start their kagne matches earlier last Beanou wes because they had no ground.
The option was carried.
It was agreed that the committee should arrange a day for the smual match between the Lengua and the Hongkong Chul.
A role of thanks to the prosident concluded the meeting.
KOWLOON CRICKET CLUR.. The annual meeting of this cab was held at the Satan's Institute, Kowloon, un
BITOUS FRENCH BAIL RR.
Three bluejackets of the French warship D'Entrecanteaux were charged with bobating in a riotous and disorderly monerat. Waschai on Thursday night. The second and third defendants w ro farther charge with resisting the polics.
All the men wort found guilty, and each was find $5.
RETURNING FROM BANISHMENT. Two natives were serienced to Irules worth' imprisonment and six hours' stocks for returning from basishinent,
One of the defendants informed His Worship that be hat calculated the time of bis enforced
absence according to Chinos reckoning. Aabe roturned six weeks too soon, however, he was found guilty.
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BEFORE MR. F. A. HAZELAND (SECOND POLIER MAGNÓRATE).
BICHU 200LIES IN TROUBLE.
Defendant was fined $15 or a month, and in lien of one day of the said contanes, six hours' stocks.
LATEST STEAMER MOVEMENTS. The M.M.kir. Touroke left Saigon yesterday on Monday it daylight.
Another ricsha puiler, who refused to socept The E. & A. str. Empire, from Sydney, &c.,
native being fourteen days'imprisonment. due bere on Sunday morning. morning as previously informed and is dne here left Manils this morning for this port, and is a hire at. Tsimchatzo was fined $5, the aller