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Big NCLLENT THE ACTING GOVERNOR, How/5P. PI, MINË, O.MG;
Hh WM. DEANE, C. M.G., Acting Colonial
o E. J. ACKROYD Acting Attorney Claboral
flow 1. E. Wodanouse, C.M.G., Asting 4donist Trensyror.
Hon. P. Hver.
HOL. HO KAL
Hon. . P. RATEN.
Đợi. T. H. WHITE;}}.
werage of the city.
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the one I hold would phibot to. is that public HIS EXCELLENCT-Yes, I may any the mo-] satufled offers) be coraldered with the Es-that the return he haul laid ou the tablo wouldkonss, and therefors that item Haslf will make) and no doubt be will, he alla ky give than.
it Impossible to strictly comply with Ga-kos, Fissan Compile any information in del... be printed before the next meeting, servate should appeal to an vatside authority than is sabatontially agrood to: A Hat has been: Limates In Finance Commit.Com.
mombore motion as now worded. I may also nection with it they may desire. The hoa. rainst the decision of the Government. Bo made out, and it is now find on the tables Fun- H EXCELLENCY Yes, if the resolution bar
PUBLIC WORKS; ** long as they the sorts of the Govorarcel derslood the potion to refer to such offers as bee complied with, but I don't want there to be Hon. T. H. WHITEHEAD Parat te poties refer to item 29, for the New Law Courts and memba(H. T. II. Whitshoid), in the course Bcn, for which a sap of $150,000 in pat down of his romarka referred to the possibility of in they are not is a position oppock against it had prod dissatisfaction. Of course 16 any lenderstanding, 1 was under the Im I have to more decision to alter bodies. If they shoes to will be very easy to makes list of all offoot that prasion this was the information asked for, but Thad the Connell postpone consideration of the In the text piss Me Council is not asked to read tuastico, and to certain points to abandon the service of Government and then-have not been ingrossed, but it is needless to do on reading over the resolution again I was not
Estimates for 1991 for Public Works Eisleyote single farthing of this for next walah afladed in the leade
short time mines. Now, le quite, appeal to the Council, that is another thing so bocanso that appears in the Estimates already quite sure whether it was list only of those No. on the batrand Lt-in so far na zegara year. It is a liability which the Colony a but an lang sa they romain in the servion of the Hon. O, POKATBR-As I as I can take who were disatisfied that wou gauted "or a flat- The following hunters ander the landing-Nos. 1ll probability will have to inont; but tone that I did refer to the possible raining of a 8, 9, 11, 18214, 15, 13, 21, 35, 89, 33, 34, 35, 34, and the expenditure connected with this work is loan, and I may tell members at one that my Crown, a clerk in the Post Chice has no more ont, the information asked for by the resolution
By total deverambut bay on the table detailed and not fly to be Incurred next year, and as a principal ranson for anggesting the raising of a has been applied to us
complete atatamente of the proposed works, shewing
right to oomo bera and complain to you against
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of all who have aut rooived increases. If it is the format the resolution in practically agreed to. his superior oficers then I should have to couS HIS EXCELLENCY-It has been supplied ar
Hon. C. P. CHATEE-I am unfortaanisty
what is to be done in each cars and the poorly atter of fact no plans or detrital estimates lonn was not so much on agant of the inaugial to you and corglain of the Becrutary of State or far as I understood the resolution, but the Cos" nitunted, inkelloh ne I do not loida arsally what far the works together with tiranton and plans, pet been made for the new Law condition of the Colony as hennes I do think, Hon. S. BROWN. Surveyor-General.
of Bar Majesinondict towaca re. We are tontal Secretary has drawn my attention to the was passing in the mind of the hon member inamding's definite statement of the intentions Courts or offoss, and therefore that is whether the Colony is flourishing ornot fanvish. with referaque to drainage sud "water.wbeks, so | another Item with raspsat to which it is iming, that it is a hardship apon" one geunration Hon. N. G. MITCHELL-TRNES, Acting Regis all sarrants the Crown, and so long as we fact that the warding of the resolution woula Hon. J. J. Kriok who proposed tas resola-
that the Coroll and the pablio may know precisely, possible for the Government, however wask they to be called agion to pay the wauls cost of such tar-General
kold the service of the Crown we are bound by include all those who have not received an in-tle at the last meeting. The most important
what it is the Council aroaked to assion and for desire to comply with the hen, member's motion, works as we are carrying out here now, and wblok the decisions of the Crown. In England there orasse, but I did not nadarstand that a list of part of the resulation has been complied with.
what purpose the maze the rated the table a to place particulars before the Council are for the benefit of future generations,
be used;
No bat as your Broellangy has pointed out, not was once similar case when the writers poti-those who are not disentialed war required..
Further, that the Government iny on tloved Parliament with regard to their salaries Hon. F. BYBIS➡ỉ think the best pha-will be avery bit, and therefore I hele for a post- copy of the despatub and statement sent to Lord With regard to many other items, as the doubt, if a Colony is crossirely wealthy it is Kuntsford in reply to his deep of 1941 Agri) Colonial Beorstery mentioned, the Government always desirable to save the interest wa and that was held to be tombordination, though to vote aguinat will inorenson What are the Esponsmoot. Your Brailency hon givom "vory
last, also a fresh report from the Butveror Conec will be perfectly prepared to lay before the pay oa barrowed money; bat unissa sash in the Mr. P. A. HAZELAND, Acting Clock of Conn-it was ruled in their favour for this reason, that thats for, why are we called to smaller them if good reasons for not delaying the matter, they were not enate of the Crown, but mora. we have no power P But we can rote against all | bnt| think a work's farther delay wonlá
babwerken he can now rasamais endertake Cound! every information they possibly enn bat, it does sa herd that we should to called to do during the eunting year, and also a reporý ly permis hired by the Crown by the day as you incronos.
not oamua all these scmplication you have datalling the Pablls Work to which the Colony is to say that detailed estimates and detailed upon to pay the whole cost of works of this The minutes of the last meeting wore road would hire a carpooter. I need hardly my thei:|| HIS EXOBLLEN OY--Yes.
posted out, and I would save more - jak already adtrally committed..
plans should be laid before the Connell description. So far sa the revenue and the and conterand
Boy objection which applies to this Board ap Hon. P. RIB-Thon I think the best planer to postpone it until next week.
Your Excellepey, I have no desire to impede or every partionlar case would be to say flounckl condition of the Colony are coueurned, OFFICIAL APPOINTMENTS.
pline with much more force to Paciianient, and will be for the ineficial members to vote against His EXCELLUNOTI do not see what objest obstrast by the publle works. We all what would be impossible to perform, be I may say I consider it as I stated in the address Hi EXCELLENCy-dentkomen, I think it ret public enrrants holding office in England any inerente.
- would be gainsl, because there is a motion ongols and agree as to their passing and great cause these are some of these publis work I dallared, as decidedly satisfactory. At only right to inform you, inasmuch as the are not competant to address the House of HIS EXCELLENCY-Of comes it is quite open the paper in the name of the hon. meraber on scoesnty at some time or other. Many of the with regard to which detailed statements end of this year the probabilities are that there cstimates ara pow under consideration, timb the Commons with regard to their personal aire for hon. members to do that
my right (Hon. P. Rgriel to the effect that on works have already appeared on the rimases are not been made, Thore are others almcut will be a rory considerable balance to the good Secretary of Statu bus made son chaugs in in addition to the observations which were made Hon. P. ETEISeveral office ers dissatis. nideration of the proposed increase of "plarios be of previous years, and in a sms have been ap-on toy detailed, abonent before the public works during the war atopangitare uit
completed, and it is impordile in regard to on the amount estimated towards expenditure regard to the appolatmeals of the Portmanter by the Governor in Ceylon on the occasion to Hud, but they will not make vomplaints, teat
postponed until the return from Shanghai of the ; proved of. Each masion of Convoit. Enwever, General and the Colonial Treasurer. This late which Erafer, would also romlud, ken, men HIS EXCELLENOY-Do, yon mean thay, will Hon. J. J. Kwak, nad Mr. Keswick will not sparate and independent. Each time asti. Connell as has been suggested. There is nie mentioned in the dress I made some few Postmaster General, st you are aware, also hold born of what took placo in the Legislativo Cana- not complain to the Government ? ·
be back within a week. As for postponing the mates are brought before the Council members undesirable to lay detailed atatampants before at the end of this year we shall be nearer another reason, I think, why it might be waska ago; and I have good reason to believe that the office of Colonial Treasurer and the office of oil of the Straits Settlements when the TOKY Hon. F. RYBIE-Yon:
Entirantes for the next three or four weeks, I hare the right of approving or disapproving Council with regard to the cellmates of every 2200,000 to the good than $190,000. Collector of Stamp Revvone For thesedifferent question we are now considering here came be
*. His ExorLLENer-If any offloor is dissatisfied I may say at ones that-opuld not be approved Un euch, opsion. Cerarumont should give tha' datles be received a salary songileg to $5,760 fore that Coonell not long sincs, namely, the I will be very happy to entertain his complaint, Hon. F. RE18 said the Secretary of State's tallest information, as if the estimates, had particular building. I will not allads to the gard to the autral expanditore for public, works. year. Under the new proposed scheme for the increase of salaries of civil servants. The matter and will refer it to the Secretary of State. I approval might be vemmaniented by teleg.am, cameron for the list tans. In the estimatas particulars, but I thluk him. there will con we shall in all probability have a balance to marry readjustment of salaries this would amount in the Straits had been arranged very wol in osanot anything more than that, "A Hus EXCELLENCY-The Becretary of Stats for extenorilary expenditure I find numerous detalled statements of expenditure in re fast there will not be a deficit at all. I may sider that it might be undesirable to lay on for the coming year, so that as a matter of to, 87,776 a year; but the Secretary of State the same way za here. There was a petition Mon P. KYEI-I know many are dissatisfied. I would not send a telegram until he enrefully publis works involving an outlay of upwards of bna race some new appointments, and this wont home in the preparation of which the va HIS EXCELLENT The Government onrust road the despatch. If the bon. member will $920,00 The Council will be aired to rabe this gard to arey building before Couneli, and also mention the fact that many of the works. amount will be slightly increased. The Sore official members had taken much trouble, and to know who is disantialed unless they oud in best in mind that this is the 3rd November, amount without the weans of knowing some time they would uci press for that informativu, or at guy rate some of the works, which will be of State has appointed the present Asistant which they bad, recommended an incresas of their complainte. I was under the impression that it will be a fortnight before the Estimates beforehand for whet parpos lhe mosny in be The Surveyor-General estimates that a hailding carried out during the next year are ro Postmaster General to be Postmarter-General salatias for the different ressobs stated by them what the Finance Committas wanted was a can be passed, and that the Secretary of State voted in to be used, ned without the opper will cost so much; it is very questionable whe
zomerativa works, as, for instance, the Central nt a salary $3,600 a year, besides which be in to The Biscastes that took place courred on the list of those who had sent in complaints will not get them until nearly the end of Be-tauity of Inlly considering the desirability of ther it would be a good thing for that estimate Market. When the Central Market is csm- haes free quarters. He has also appointed Mr. 25rd Jendary of this year, and the rug and that has been supplied. If the homem comber, he will see that the Secretary of state approving or disapproving the proposed works to be made generally known as soon as it was pleted a considerable revenue will be obtained Mitchell-Innes to be Colouial. Trenaurar sou gered inerusi wees mared by the Calonial bar will tell me what more I can do I will be will not have much chance of sending ent his or any special one of them. We have not been Cell should be fally swary of the cost of a hon. members will go over the list of rocke drawo up. Of course it is quite right that the by letting the stalls in the market, and if Collector of Stamp Reresosat a salary of $4,800 | Boerotary, Bie F. Dickson, how administering most happy to consider 16,
approval before the end of Desimber.
informed whether designs and sekimaten hava As I muationed" to yon a moment age; the the Government. After he had mundo bia Hon: P. BYRI-There is no incrise wan Hon. H. WHITEHEAD-I fully agree with been obtained or not. No definits statements cartain bailding, and more or lis of the parti-they will as some others of a remanerative stmount to which the present combined mlaxies observations, some of the naeticial memberationed for the Magistrate seting as Corner what has been soul by the hou, member upports and no plan are placed before the Counsil. The nave cocnected with that ballings but who description.
I also trast that during next of the Postmunster-General, Colonial Treasurer. spoke in connection with the matter, and Why should not the whole question have bean (Hon. CP Chater). If, as the han. member namas only of the works are given. Had definite you come to ask for tenders for the work. year the amount realised by land sales will see. and Collector of Stamp Rerenne would come to one of those members. Er. Shelford, mede dealt with by a Commission altting cut bare says, a delay of a wask wors granted to ns, we plans and reigns born made with reference to is generally done in this Colony: it becsed the very model "wam I mentioned when under the now scheme would be $7,776, and by the the following observations" I sm quite anra The idea of the unofficial members was a gen would then lass an opportunity of going into the new Victoria College, sarely no such men guastionable whether it is desirable I brought forward the estimates, and therefore distinot appointments that hare Usen made the that no scheme of this Council will meet with eral increase, figli
the statement your Excellency has oaned as to difference could have arisen, between the to lay every detail before the Conaf How-ver I think, if we take the fundial condition amountcamas to $3,400, Therafors there isa slight, ontira spproval. I do not believe that it would EE EXUELLETUY-Of course I cannot take be supplied with, and by next Monday we would estimate and the staal nitimate cost of that that may be, in going through she estimates if in of the Colony, we shall and that it is, after differenes, which will have to be voted. I may nest withcomplete approval either on this sido er upon myself to say what may, bare induced the probably be able to come to a debimam building, as was the case When statements egard to any particular building hos, menibers all, by no means in a healthy aondition. my Lantirely agras in the expediency af separat, on the other side of the obair. But there is this Becretary of State to come to the conclusion af opinion in gard to the matter. It is our ass made and plans decided on and money desire to know any estimates or further details in and that even without having recourse to a leax ing the two offices of Postmaster General and advantage in the scheme before us, that it was which he has arrived. Ten only say I laid his wish, if say hardship oxists, to make room ir vited thereon, no material changes should be minden, I can say that if it is possible for and without having recourse to further taxation, Tressure. I do think that In a Colony which drawn ap in theolonial Ore sud sout out despatch or the falla, and I endeavoured to intloma in regard to it. I think that is permitted without good reason shown and the Government to furnish such information it we shall at the end of next year and ourselves has reached the singe now attained by Hong-under the hand of the Secretary of State, there carry out the Secretary of State'e recommends all we can do and all we wish to do. We have sanation of the Connell obtained: If no such will be done. Now the hon. member's motion without any defoit. I have made these few ob kong there is quite sufficient work to do fore disappointed offloers. if there are any much tions. He distinctly states there are two or no desire to interfere between Government statements are made and to plans are given, refers to all the items from 1 to 27—with the cervations because I thought it only right that for■ Postmaster General without his being remaining, meat, he content to genmble in three classifications into which the offices may and Governant ofloials. Our only wish, changes may be made without the knowledge of exception of a few that are mentioned in the when dealing with these matters in Finance conected with the different functions which | silence." Then Mr. Adamson made some re-be divided, that some to at. 33 bere hardship existe. › recommend it for on the mail, and the Council will have no control estimates. An the hon. member hiwolf rs Committee you should not look upon the fascial. kare beau attached to his odos ber for marks, in the course of which he said.There per cent, increase, others 20 per sant, and sidoration. The increase, as your Excollazor whatever over them. tr. Chadwich was brought market, a great many of these items, I may ssy condition of the Colony in a gloomy manner, al- some years Therefore I think the Counen will is in class 11. an officer who has been placed on others are not to get an increase szept an has stated, was unanimously recommended by out to Hongkong at the Government's request most of them, are works that are stready so though it is far from desirable to put too msy a not hesitate in approving of a scheme which a lower grade than others who preceds him, and der special circumstances. All the officers in the unfleist mumbers, and on their recomenda- in 1882. Hs then furnished valivabile aut exists ned, works for which money has been voted colour nap it. When you examine the different will setablish two distinct offoss and leave such that is the Insjentor of Prisons. Now, it is the Civil, ervice have been address d by the bien principally, I take it, the Secretary of tive reports in regard to the drainage and sani for vacal or at any rate some yours psat. Items of expenditure, you should do so with care, of the gentlemen filling those offices more time long ago as 1876 that I had the opportenity in | Colonial Secretary, and have been informed of
Siste granted the increase. We have no dotation of Vitoria Theas naturally cost the seams, therefore, a lilile simnge, why the at the same time taking into consideratión and leisure to attend efficiently to his duties Finance Committee of expressing my opinion the intreme it was proposed to give them. Most sira to place any obstacle in the way of the ratepayers annsiderable money. What was done information such as is seked for to-day should the actual condition of the Colony at the than has been possible in the past. Of scorse that the salary attached to that appointment was of the officers here sent in no remonstrance, a Estimates being passed, but we ses very desirous with tuces sports baliava they wars utterly not have bar soad for previously. I may rá, presant time and the probable prospects When the Estimates come up for densideration it quite inadequate. For four years longer be osrtain uumber have done ap, and this is the list of Suquiring into cases where hardships are disregarded. Mr. Obadwick was lately brought fer to one partionlar item, that of the Central for the future Now with regard to the will be open to any boh, mamber to make aty continued to draw the salary thea wet down for of those oficers whobave expressed dissatisfaction supposed to exist, and it in the opinion of the out again, and he care us plans, statements, few days after my arrival tu ttis Colony, the ana member, who has moved it that all much Market. I remember early in February last, a particular motion before us. I o sasure the observation he thinks desirable in eensction bim, $3,600, IIe is a man well advanded in
ancial members there are' savas requiring and estimates in reference to the ger drain. with this matter, but I thought it right to yeste, and the increase now riven him will they make remarks privately.
Hon, P. RYKIE-I quite agres with that, bat alteration, we wish to regemmend thom for an age and water works. These recommend them. Governor made along statement in regard to information as the Guzecument povareses will be ansounos to the Commoil at von the changes not ba uf very much tre to kim. 1. think
salvar to the common sens the com- the Cantral Market, and compared the estimates girent him, ved that that information wit he that have been made. I may add that the up this is a onas for special consideration, that what remarks they make pritutaly: "If the HI EXCELLENCY-I cannot possibly know
The ACTING COLONIAL SECRETARY-I would city: The Sanitary Board have recommended of the late Surveyor-General with the estimates. expplemented by any information that can be poir trauts are not, to come inte farve audillat the Government should consider the iunde anoffoial memberg desira ail salaries ekpuld be
sak hon members if they would agree to this thom, and in their letter of the 8th August of the present Surveyor-General, and the plangiren frasly by the Barraron General, but I January next.
quate salary drawn by him in the re years fueroagod, I have not the slightest objection to
Doare, that we now go into Finsane Comittee last thay rapommend that Mr. Chadwick's pro-f the late Surveyor General with those of should like to inform him that it ir impossible THE BANITARY BOARD AND THE DRAINAGE to 13-0, and be scald have sine consideration their stating that desire, and I will forward and get through ante non-contentious work posals witd plans be sanctioned and approved by the grant Surveyor-General. Now, if any to comply altogether with the first part of his This is a matter of some delicacy, and I bring it it to the Secretary of State, but hon. members Estimates in committes, hat to take the second to obriate the risk, with a change of offers, sired, it would seem the most rational thing to Secretary of State, and as to the statements that as possible. We have aut only to consider the railutios of the Legislative Couns so an information with regard to this market was do motion Ae regards the despatch I wrote to the THE ACTING COLONEL SECRETARY lald on forward with great regret, but I believe it. inkin I cannot go outside the deapaton. There sid third reading and tablets the vast amount of changes in and departures from these har sakel for it at that time, but it was not aak-dospsieh natales, all portions of that having the table (ir curihsues with a inquest made by question which ought to be considered." The are the cases of the Chist Justice and Harbour of information called for by the Socretary of plaat. And the hoa, tus Surveyor-General, ed for. I believe that a great deal of informe- referous to this motion will be laid before the the on. T. H. Whitehead at the last meeting discussion was then continued, and the Governor. Masters no increases are pat down for them in State. Hon metra will see we have not at this mother of the Sanitary Board held on A copy of the recommendations forwarded to the Sir Civil with, to winding up the debate, made much as hon.members know Icuunut deit. If hen. mach time, and I would therefore ask them the 8th August last, I are glad to observe, wish details and plans are capable of being faraisha, Gonera made when the siiats this year were tion with rigard to this market aud's great many Council, al further, the statement the Surveyor- Government by the Buailury Beard with fe. the following macka With reference to Mr. members think the miaries of those offer ought they will now go into committee on the non-ad it to be rvorded hit though be voted and whatever information the Surveyor-General before we will else he laid before the Council, rance to Mr. Chadwick's reports on the main se Adamson be said "He has referred especially to be increased, I am quite prapared to receive contentious part and hars a second testing against the motion as a whole, yet he cordially an give on the matter shall be farnished; but, as and all information that the Government to that oficer, but I would ask him to consider any memorial to that affect, and I will forward on Friday or Saturday, what we can deal with approved of the enginewing portion of the pen have already intimated, if information is a dan Five will be laid before the loansit.. The ACTING COLONIAL SECRETARY laid on of the overament, bak with a scheme of may mention, in ocurection with this table, that I think we can noly agras to a postponement of face of all thin, we, have so defaite statement much better that information should be procured the hon. member that he should not pross that we are not dealing witä individual members it to tho Soorstars of State at once. And any matter ther desire to hold in suspenze.ject: pet forward by Mr. Chadwick. Yet in thaired with regard to buildings of this matare, it is in the circamstances I would subult to the (able the report of the proceedings of the Fin the alarm to be given to the appointments when die Finance Committen assembles again, ance Committed of a proting held on the 27th The Secretary of State wishes us to deal with there is any further information the Colonisl the Estimates on condition there is an extra day from the Government as to its intentions with before the building is actually and than the first part of his motion as at presa: worded. ultimo.-
the appointments and not, with the offers I Secretary can give he will do so, but the reasons to them. HIS EXCELLENCY-The report is brought up deprecate, therefore, all reference to the pay why increases are not given. or are nut given before the Council now. I would like to get whole or in part? No information is given included in the boa, member's resolation in the Hon. T. H. WHITENKAD-I beg to thank you regard to drainage wirks. Are the Government that the building should be allowed to be proseid. At the present moment I annet srastly put HIS EXCRLZENCY-There are three matters going to adopt Mr Chadwink's proposals ined with, and in fast almost completed, before the your motion to the Council, because it is not us and laid on the table by the Chairman at the tonal qualifications and long and valuabla ser
information is asked for Now, other itam elsaiba Governmentsan sutirely carry out. Finance Committes, but as hou 'members will revines of offer And the same applies to the instaua, ie the Colonial Secretary's office
on the scale offers ask, are stated here. For distiretly from the bon member (Hon. C. P. Government on the poins The Council will bo collect, there is a resolution in that report which Registrars of the Supreme Court, referred to there is the Refereurs Clerk of the Chatar)hether the information given is the asked to sale $210,000 for now water mains Happy Valley work. Now, the Gererar at the heartily for the promise made to give the fallest was daly moved and seconded as the last meeting by toy learned frised opposite. I am inclined, his is an office has is usually filled ferm Eug- the information given be the information In roer zeeliency's Painable minate on the to the subject. Han, menbers must be aware that I had no intention whatever of impeding or information desired in that resolution or nok and $29:000 for the Rawanga, Victoris same time as he spoke of the market referred information possible. I would again reitersta The report is laid on the table. I usunot with bit. to think that the' mlaries are darely laud Wall, if I sonenden Bously think she desired in that resolution, then the motion is estimates for 1891 you indicate the prospect of what ban token plass in regard to the improve obstruoting any public works, mors partion- more than that matil the resointion it sontains selaient for the duties they have to perform, offics is not asually filled from England. agreed to. If the hot member sage the in- has been approved by the Council
Bon. (P. CHATRIn the absence of the and it is thought the salaries stated in the soate? I oball, however, be most happy to leafa quires; then of course the motion sanot be certain enura from which one-fourth of the total I-bad soted entirely in accordance with Valley and others. I have perhaps worded
but the matter bus bon considered at home, how ean, I give the increase on the higher formation given is not what the relation rand la draw polstad attention to the nowoke This expenditure, I rang eay, perhaps if maletas recreation cand
adatioienoy at the end of next year of 3106,000, mnt of the Racecouras during the past few larly those to which reference has been at Happy hon, member referred to Hon. J. J. Keswick, sobedules are sufficient to secure competent it to the Secretary of State. The offfer I beg to propose that the Goverturent de la loers for sun appolutants" Well, gen- thinks his is an office usually led from Eng-
revenus of the Calany is derived, namely, they wakes abould not have plazed in the station is too hardly ask. on the table a list of those of cars who have to: flemen, I marely refer to what took place in land; I think not; and therefore I kars kept it that is asked for, as your Excellency yourself mind the nageksould deinands of the W the unfolal members of Council that thawn im. was my intention to ask for a general stata...
Bot. G. P. CHATER-It is sortainly not all Opin Farn. Now, we have ales to boar in these estimates, but I believe it was the desire of ing for detailed and complete statements. It exoptred an serease inder the new scalo of pay. Ceylon and in Singapore in order to show that over for reference to the Secretary of State. I pointed ouk said at the same time notatement of the grounds I don't think is is a matter for the unofficial the hon. member will tell me what more I can
Oulos in intressing, or I may ea donbling provements to Happy Valley for the purposed meat from the Surveyor-General urugard to un which theen officers are not satised.
members, either in the Cenasil or in Committee, do, I will be happy to take say further stope.
His ExcellancY~} must say it in difontene military contribution. There is a vary of roareation should be made. I use the bon. each item in the list. I am perfectly wall swara Hon. T. WHITBREAD Beunded.
to go into the merits of individual cases na to whe Hou. C. P. GHATER-Porhaps under the air-
to know what, the resolution does sak for large Ine case in official salarion and in the saber who left a short time ago (Hon. Mr. that many of these works have already been in The ACTING COLONIAL, SECRETARY This ther a person is entitled to a higher manca eu tanees, if pour Exsalloney bas no objection of thous affloors who hare not rozsived an in-anually. Our attention boe alen heen oalled on this point, so it was in consequence of words by these statamente and Plane That the Government lay on the table a lick audit system, which will amount to $54.000 MacEwen) expressed himself very strongly to former estimates, and that the money has already
The first is that the Government lay on the errins er bpesuse hix, sorricos have been part to the next meeting. The information asked for eaue time state this reason why thom afleeraars, of burd. I have reason to believe Government ad the public that the eskema which was at first to move for is a general stalemust with regard mation may be divided into two distinor parts tien because he has been a certain time la the (the best thing would be to postpone this micreare under the new socle of pay, sud at the by your Exellency rỏ the falling off in the sale certain statements made to me by the members were not salled for I do not know. What I wish tabid a list of those ficers who have not re- onlarly meritorious. i-uot reasons inay be vare by as hon. friend who is about (Hon. J. J. ceived an increase, under the new eente, With good reason the sidewing the Secretary of Keswick has undoubtedly in great measure been regard to that, a referases to the salinates State on his behalf, bat they are exly applied, be as the list has only just been laid have not received sa increase.
bern at me the inquiries that have basa mad proposed for the Athletic Cint was abandoned to each work, th estimated dost, the denigris and Bou, L. A. Wiitsu-The ofloors who for land. Surely it would be wire and wall to and a scheme puraned. A vote was plans where they have born made, and an ex- will give the informatica-desired. One colaons which one within any of the plannathe table it will take some little time for as lo
et the demand as it arises instead of hold. brought forward for a certain amount to all up plauation as to how the estimate has been shows the pay offers sier at present, and the cations mentioned in the despatoh laid on look it ovor
The ACTING ATTORNEY GENERAL-But in the land for high prices With the the pond on the Rascourse, and that was arrived at. If the hog, weber who sounded it. other the pay it is. proposed to give them for the table, It is true in that computob next year. It is therefore necessary so far as there are certain paragraphs I any refer to post noment when it is asked for, but am
HI EXCELLENcr -I do not like to, refuse a ba iatisfied.
thom who have not complaiul are sapposed to very large falling off in our revance and the agreed to, and I holiore. it was sebagaently has no objection. I have no desire to press the vary large increase in our expenditara, wo are carnised that the improvements on this Face first part of the resolution with regard to the I can see, tu lay on the table a list of officers who and 14, in which the Secretary of stato deen destrona the Estimates should be proceed-int of all the splisitions for reconsideration (are all agreed that increased taxes and increaved regard to that I can only say that when the have not received an increase, as the information say, "It does not appear on what grond." red with without sodne delay, and I will men-that have been rensíved.
HE EXOLLLENCY-L-havo inid on the table athratened with an inverato in taxation. We course would be for the general good; bat with detailed and complote statement. i really already before the Concil. This ferring to portain appointments, such large tion the rassen. The overnment is bound to portion of the motion is also opas tu another increases have been proposed;" and in pars got the Estimates home before the end of the Secretary that we should proceed with the non- this gravest reasons srist why the Government not befrotirred, it is quita open to thera to remady to angport one part of resolation. objection, la that it Esks for a list of beers. If graph 14 be says, I do not wish to delay the year, and whatever increase of salaries may be contentiams part of the Estimates.
Hon. P. Ryntr- agree with the Colonial Intes would prove very detrimental to the true matter is considered in Finaues Committee, if if you wish to withdraw task sel
intarosta of the Colony
HIS EXCELENTY-It is rather diffoult Therefore I think bon. members think that this expenditure should it bat naked for a list of offices it might have introduotion of the scheme say longer by taking altimately approved of, no ofiber will be able to
should give as the fallost information possible thesives with regard to next year, and so the hoo. member will withdraw his resold. bean a different matter. The whole gist of the yan to furnish me, with farther information da
the undertaking being given that Zarpata of the Secretary of Stats points epolate which, as I have indicated above, arauet,
draw his salary on the new scale tatil it in op-
BIS EXCELLENCE-It hon. members will with agird to the very large proposed expandi far as I am concerned I shall be happy to bow tion o wards an increase in the salaries of offens pot of in my opinion, fully explained in the papers le provel of by the secretary of State. It is now to that I am sure I cannot raise say obture on public works I would nego span tho Coba any decision that may be onus to with ragard all general information in nesnection with the individual effinera, Personal evasiderations «p= "kurs me, but you will be enrufel to supply fall considered in Compitten and the Bill to be read desire to furnish it, bat-I think if they will wiles for 1998 bafura. the prisideration of the bers in particular, that it was considorid doxir-statomente in the despatch seat to Lard Knits the Srd of November, the fisticates bare to be bare requles farther informstinn, it will be my fford's despatch in regard to the slithe community generally, and from hon. mom- General possvairs shall be given to him, and the ination I may repes aquia that if hon meorurament-to-osefully resonelder Lord Knate but subject. I certainly understool. from public worka specified that the Sure-For- pear to bave been entirely put nu ona vide, and information on all much points when the eelima third time, so that it will be a furtnight hafors refer to the wording of the ensolation they will stiutes for 1891 comes on. Lord Krutsford able to ogrry out this work, and tast is the reason fori so far as they nor to public works, and, the whole question denli with as one of affven atau are sent home.”
Ami st the beginning of it can be passed. part of the motion, the roads on which the struct you to plass on the next year's natimates and the appesenl .Ituoj be received anterocila nt of the offers who have expressed do not wish to imply say doabt that the Colony,regard to this particular matter, thers amplarie, General when he prepared the estimates shall. part of officers. With referees to the latter the same paragraph he maya" I have to in- locestary of Stata bulere fue and of Deambres I could not do more than lay befom the in his despatch of the 18th April last says it was put on the satitants. I believe, with farther, that the statement of the Surveyor. officers are not satisfied, I think that presumes the new scale of salaries subject to my final or April, perhaps rot then. In the entire dissatisfaction and the reason why. that more offloors are not atleed thus antual-approval when those estimates are considerad, none of the increases could be drawn, and there
provided the events continues to remain ex-specifications, and estimates, and all these ost be also ba furnished to film. I am quite prepared to ly the one, but I have, by the direction of his ring your diaoration in ragard to such cases as fore it the increases are to be given from the
pansive, can afford to construct in a substantial laid before the committee, and they ong doside Kive that undertaking; or if the bon, mambar Exsallamy, to lay on the table a raturi of those are left open in this despatch. Well gentlemen, beginning of the year, it is desirable they should
way many public works of which there is press. whether the works shall be carried sat or act will change the wording of the resolution, I have offiours who have asked for recensideration of notwithstanding the cases to which I hate ant be delayed, in
ing neopssity, but the way in which the esti. Another important matter contained in the no objection, but it is impossible to accade to their salarice, and giving the reason which art forrel, Ist the same the must desirous to may not Gris instance, complications
order that complications tios I bag to move :~~
Hon. T. H. WITH BAD-Pursuant to no-matse bave been framed of late years seems to kon. membrelation is the gol exten, the request for showing detailed statements. ated the Governinsat in declining to accede or afford to this Council every inforzantion I frel might arise in this way: at older might go
Indicats a tandiucy to initiate numerous works son. Now on manibars are perfusily wal Hon. T. WHITEHEAD-I will alter that otherwise to their request.
legitimately eno in regard to this abject, home on leire; at present he is entitled to draw
on a perhaps sanecessarily "liberal scale, without wars that nothing is yet d.cided upon with to "general statements" HU EXCELLENCE-I may add to the tow. re-ard. as the olozial Secretary has tentoud bis half-pay at 4. 20. Then a question of
das rogard to the capabilities of the Pablo reference to the gaol and it is impossible for the HIS EXCELLANCY--Vary welt. Then there. mark's that have just been made by the Colonial fex mourouts ss. I have hd prepared a table account would arise between what he had drawn.
expenditas to which tas. Unloay will this be settled. I havestated my dosies previously, and I are works, I cannot refer him to the Surveyor. Works Department, the relatire importance of fovernment to lay before the Connell detailed is zoothar wattor to which I would refer the Secretary that it is certainly my wish to give which I trust will sufficiently convey to
the works, and the possiblity of detraying the shame of the building, which as yet ses not hon member. As regards the water and drain. the buncil every infarcuation that I legitimate the Finance Committes the informatie ander the now wcale. Therefore it is desirable at that rate and the amount he was to receive
ultimately committed." by can in con naotion with the watiwatar or indool they rogues. They will see in one colama the the matter should be decided as soon as possible
bare communicated that desire to the rotary General, but all the information the Govern with regard to say other matter. When this fees in regard to which say rekonstrous way or the otaur. It may be in the
Hon, P. Eynig-Ibig to second, the motion of late, that. If it can possibly be avoided, woont passes in the matter and the reports report of the Finance Committee was brought have been made and in another the reasons why Government is rather late in bringing this
of my hon friend on my right. ♬ has treated would not have recourse to building a new gaol, of. Mr. Chadwick shall be furnished to the up at the last meeting I must say it took the Government kas tot feit justified in acend matter forward, but I think,, as the Searetary
the antjent exhaustively that there is no. It would mmo a very considerable expenditare; hou, member if that will wost kim me somewhat by surprise. I was not preing to the domezd, or whether it was thought of State's despatch, bates which the Eelistas
HoT: H. WHITEH AD Would it not be. aunt when the Finesse Commitico ware din that the question was one of salcient doubt for would not be brought forward, was only written
thing loft for me to say, but it is very desirable 50,00 isthe axtimate Ibareszzgested that the we should know exactly where we nɛə..
pressat gaol might be extended at a cost of over desirable for the Governmost to place on the cussing the estimates, and therefors 1 did reference to the Secretary of State. More than Jake and recopic here at the end of
The ACTING COLONIAL SECRETARY-Your $100,000, szil if that scheme is not approved that tale à statement showing their deficits inten- not know what had passed among the members at this I do not think would be justified in July, and the Connel was in recess, antil
Broalloy in reply to the bon. member I will sue blook of the new gaol might be commended: tions with regard to the soheme they propose to that meeting. The report when shown to me line to the Counel quita fest that is is a short time ago, it will be seen it was iman
The mte par cout. par sazna the lösa ku deal with the last part of his motion art, and at my idea with regard to the erection of a follow, the same as in cunction with the other struck me souslant as one which desired me to matter of the increase of staring the deepest Bible for the Government to bring the Eati
i sannels--the rets to ineluia interest, com state that the Government are perfectly ready to an bhoot is that once commenced it will be works. I am thinking more particularly of the refer to the Legislative Connell a matter which interest has been taken by the auoflcisi memuise forward before. After regeipt of the
sis, and all other charges from date of borrow-lay on the tabla sa extract from the tattout avossary to go on and build a satirely ease of Victoria College. We all resollest ing ap to the most convenient date of this gene". I would not consider it my duty to sorafer;bers in-fast-it-may-bad-that-the-salaries despatch it was necessary to write to every
The amounts to be xisted in pounds starting in reply to the dispatch of Lord Kuutsford of gaal, whereas if by extending the prasant goory clearly what happened in that wass The as well as in dolları,also the rate or rates of exi Cause we met always bear in mind the distinction would not have been invresand at all had it servant to know whether he accuded Your Excellency, my object in moving this partnert can reasonably mzdartake to do during decrease the number of prisoners; and reader if ing was enormous.
the 19th April, and as to farnishing a repart by could have reccurao to the mate statigated original omt was a cosparstiraly change at which sok conversion has been lo the Sarvspor-Ganaral så to what works-ku-Daye might by that masus and by other munne small sum whereas the setul east of that build- tions. It has been held ovey and over again that the matter and the moserial sent home to (tions because I do not want it to be supposed to the ratepayers as to the rate por coal. per i tabli the report of the Burveyor-General xande e entemplated. Whether the $100,000 goes but such unsayarp'not confined to Hongkong. between sxecutive functions and legislative funs. I not been for the trouble they have taken into the solistas. I make the few obwalation is to give the neossary information the ensuing your, thore will be laid on the answer to build the larger building” this if civil servants have a canes of grievance it is the Begratary of Blata. It would not be right, Government have ban in any way remiss
EN EXO LLENOY -I am fully aware of that, pnt to the Lgislative Council they are to address therefore, od, the part of the Government in zehin-bringing forward the Estimates With To Futǝreak, commission, and all other margan"! pussideration of your Exsalloney With regard it goes towards the cost of enlarging the estimats for the Scienos and Arta Institute in themselves. They are to address themselves to use then any information that enn taitimately gard to tan suggestion of the hon. meubursa shat is the sout of the Colong having to to ton first part of the motion there is some dif- presant gnul as bars aufgeted the paus Doblitt was €100,000, while the total expenditure arrive the loan has actually most including byahe nubraitted the estimates-for-1801-for-the- forrards building a new gapt, or whether Daly s day or two ngal-read that the original the Governor, and if he expresses az opinion be given. Although I do not think cases of in contrary to what they desire, they hard to dividual merit can come under any of the classi tarbher information be wires, I will be tappy will readily paracive which markst they can one connected with pablie works properly "so Finsuoo Committee, nid hon. members will be that that je any justifiustien whatever for the Hon. C. P. Chator) if he can tell me what burrow later on, the ratepayers sul taxzavers Bealty. That part refers to two distinct susitors that have been prepared will be laki batera tas insurrs wis £200,000 I dont mean to say but it has always bean həld insubordination out the same time I think it is quite open to any that we will be any further at the next meet could be raised fusilly in sicur on very easy age works. A to thi drainage and, water her think rigot. I may say that I was then things wil, ossar all the world over. means of appealing, to the Secretary of State: fications mentioned by the Secretary of State, to afford it, bat at, present to put 200 borror most othssply in. "A. Gaveramen! loan called, and the other with the water and, drainquite at liberty to express any opinion whieh (extra expensa fasorrat bars, bat it shows that the part of Government servants to appeal to unofficial, member of Compot to express the any outside body with regard to any ouens of opinion that soins offeo of importanco in the cation le to the hon. member i the
ing than at this As to any private doujouni- terms. difference that may exist between them and those colony will not under the scheme. Aufficiently right (Hen. P. Byriel, of course I cannot posecoding the relation
works scheme, the report of Mr. Chadwisk was obliged to include aortals and in the seti- Hon Kyary What stunt the Tytin who are their superiors in the Government sarremunerated, I may refor to the cffles of the
En. P. Brei-I have much pleasure in all on the table on the 20th May last, and, as mated for gael extension, inasmuch as my atten- water worka P. vion. I do not wish to make thakg observitice Harbour Master, which the bon members will assibly know what may be the nature of a co-asked for will be very wefa..
The Information that sohams has received your Excellency's tion had been more than once directed talt by HIS EXCELLENCY-I do not sự how the Go- without having good reaava to do a
fornication, and it ense voey near to what I
approval it is on the line that the water and the Secretary of Stats. With regard to the verniment man ly on the tatlan deficits state- atste that a caso very smiler to this arose in the present exlery of the Harbour Mustari, and offoial, point w. Perhaps. this course the hon. member on the table. I have only one fore the Conncil the informationthat is now asked as have been voted on previónė azaslons. I to give the hon. membran ufficial membera nny is placed in the tabla Hoa, members know what, huve mentioned no bezug 'objmoting's Je iron saite prepared to lay the information desired by public warka, t is not always possible to lap bo- ko, hon members will fod that most of these Į drainogo vod, water, wares. My only desire in THE ACTING COLONIAL SECRETARY-Tam drainage system will be carried out. As to the patio laundries, civil hospital, slaughter-houses, ment as for their intentions with reforenes to the I was in the colony of Ceyla. In that particular. they know the resin why the Secretary of State would satisfy the bocməmbars; if by aoa: obserțation to meks, andthat is that this return is for, bat when we reach theas itown" alther du biliare in regard to many of them-I may way to understand that Government sannot "promise instates the Government servants went further has not fult justified In increasing that salary insider the Estimates in Finanon Comm'tter, sad not quite so complete as I should have wished it to Finano Committee òt in Public Works Com--all of thathura are plade and detaifa which to perform what it is unable to do. Any, in- they have adðrumed any member of Council think itperfectly open to any unsmeial member to gaires further consideration, Lam quite will an arbitrary rate of $1. 2. at which he task the to give kiša, mëmbora overy Informamen ; but to Connolly Whithiathans-plaza-atu wasis-as-to","to"undörfaro to give a definite statement with than they have done ló táis instance, if indeed the same way as the other salaries. Therefore they come across any partíonier oase that reba, from the fact that one of my predecessora red mitte, the Burvapor-General will be most happy there is no objection at all to laying bofore formation that can be giren will be given, but that they hare, but I merly rider to it the Barbour Master or any other offloar thery information E legitimately can, but unless I has boga a fair averaga for the Inst three years, items would mean simply diling this room with towbar remolation I amì, scarcely able to my, I would be to undertake what is alast impossible, at all It has not been mentioned to express the opinion that the present sulary of zitahouki baheidever. Iam domirous of giving | exchange into dellars, 1t so happens that that lay on the table fall particulars as to all thèng come within the natual wording of the hon.tegund to the water and drainage works because it seems from the report that this may see on this list is not anfilviert. I che only know what information is required it is very bab for next year bon, rambena will observe sú plaus and specißsations. It is almost impossible but I end say that all the information given to. motion may have bad its origin in remony that any expression of upinion of that kind difficult for me to give it. stranors made to particuler members of Council will be duly ambiitted by me to the Secretary of
Hoo. T. WHITEHEAD-Ara the Govern by some civil vervacts who may be dissatisfed State without délag At the same time, we with the salaries given under the new scheme met bear in mind that the unofficial viewbers that when considering the Estimates wasual exchange shall be at down-and-nota ar aizs and zeraber of pants of glem that wers toon from the Surveyor General In case the do- His. BOLLENCY I thought the Colonial
Has P. Briz-We have alware baderstoel hare bean giran that in future the actual rate of Council, as it would involve particulars as to the plans enn be enpplemented by further explana by Mr. Uhadwick P
incrassat vafe has been fired, and instera ion to Lar a detailed statement of those works before the Fiascos Commities with respect to these mant decided to carry at the scheme suggested
As I mentioned moment ago, a somewhat har no power directly to propose any increase demand any information ne liked. similar case "took place in Ceylon, but in that on the estimates eubmitted to them, and there.
bitrary rate as for the last throq years. Il EXCELLENCY-Oh, dear, DO.
bo pot inermüding; but Ifa general statement comente laid before the committee are dat, nach case the civil servants requested an naoficial) fore, although it is open to them to maksy
Hon. P. RYRIE-We have alwaye understood matter of the loan, the boa marbs short Thera sin 00s or two items also with rost
EX EXCELLENCY-In sumnsation with this aan pressibly be brought forward it shall 6, long as to satisfy hon. members. There is another Startery stated just now that that was decided
some months ago. member of Council to present a petition to the ens recommendation as I have referred to,
&to item which I think it unly right to draw the
The SURVEYOR-GENERAL-If I may be al- Connal complaining that they had not sciunt they cannot move that any higher salary be in-
time ago brought forward a rosolution to the which it is not possible yet to bring forward atlantion of members to—it is not inantioned in towed to says for words, I would point out with pag. The mater was very fully discussed auried in the estimates. Ou, the other hand, it en increase of salary
EXCELLENCY-Then you could propose effect that the Government should formalate a detailed statement. Take, for instangs, the ease the hon. member's motion and that is item 80 regard to the regulation of the Sanitary Board, in the Legislative Council, and the Garernur. is quite open to them to mors that the amcant
scheme for raising another ban, I may state that of Mountain Lodge. The proposed alterations the lowering of Queen's Road West A sum of in giving his decision that the civil servants in of salary be reduzat, whether the case is annection with the expanditara of money we are direction is that I thoug it it desirable the asti-ing is to be reonstructed or snow aite par carrying out this work. This is a work which I tion passed by the Board for the reason that Hon. P. Re-No; but anything in con- the rosesa na slaps have yet been taken in that entiels dopoad on wasther the present boild $8,000 has been inserted in the estimates for cours, I did not agree with the whole recoin- that particular instance wero entirely on of neder, comis under the revised ecsta or nder the entitled to know. mads the following obserrations The Governor prosent scale-It-is-always-open-to any-on-
wates should first be consited. O coz it chasst and a now pisos built. Although that was informed the Governor before his departure I was already aware, as a member of the HIS EXCELLENCY There sight be cofden-may make a great difference, after the Council matter-mat-be dealt with in the forthcoming had onxefully considered, and it was mentioned Legislative Council, that Mr. Chadwick's r was, Sir Arthur Gordon, who had a very long offcial member to move any reduction of a vote, tial communications which it wold be impassi have quaidered the extraordinary expenditure, year it is needless to say that the details, have to me that it was a very desirable work to carry port had hoon received and adopted, and it experience in colonial government. Eo said though not to propese su increase. "This Conocil may on down pay, it may run the statement that has boon prepared will correct when he save they can demand any pos- not be necesary. Some of the works put downersi information as we have shall be laid be-duty to insert the amount appearing in the received it had pledged themselves as much as I trust ble to disclose, so that the bon member is not in ensileria whether a loan may or may not been prepared, but in all the matter sucht. In thesu nivoamstances I considered it my appeared to me that the Casement baring in gut but you must remember that the farnish all the information that is desired.blo information. acting of this Connell with regard to salarios and, I may add that: although patna baye not Hon. F. RYKIE-Then if we are not told the amounts pat down opposite others may be
for next year may be strack out of the estimates; fore the Council
estimates towards barrying it but mact year, hat they could do towards carrying it out. It ap sberges upon the royonse is exceedingly limited, been mentioned in that table, it will be very about it we won't vote it.
HI EXCELLERY-I hope bon, meinbare will in carrying out this work X om only sty in the peared to me that the resolution of the Board and that no proposal having for ila objet any for han, members, ou reference to the increase of salary of charge on the rewrote os estimates, to see whoeversponds to the office the hon. member want? If he will only tell and alss at the end the your it may appear exactly as it stands naw. For example, the oase not be carried out next year, but should retain that it is not anal for Government to give. HIN EXOELLENCY--Quite so. But what does others will be of a vary ematerative caracter; it is not possible to agros to this resolution the unshots members consider this work should tempt to extract from Government gomething desratsed, and han, wambes may think that gather from the for obesrvations just made that one of the Happy Valley improvements, that it is of a very unusual nature. It was an at-
be made assspt by the Governor or with thased add po farthus aberrations, but I wished me what information he wants I will be glad to larger balance exists than is at prosent gestem of Mountain Lodge has been referred to. Then the Samos of the Colony are month regard to the foralshing of detailed szprema sanction of the Goforas Bel that is to Enform the Council why it was the report touk apply it
ct the matter in point; the question is whether ma by surprise and why I asked for a postrope.
plated. Therefore I think it would hardly be have been 340,00 placed on the estimates flourishing, His Governmost is by as statement conterning these works, it would be The ACTING COLONIAL TRAUBER-Iwould desirable to bring the question of loan forward for tare clerks are care not entitled to higher payment for wook in order the I might have like to suggest, the resolution having been prostil bon membere have had an opportunity of Governor.
new mountain residenes for the Jos rous of arg ng the carrying out of the work en extremely inconvenient thing indo, because aque-tion which I, for one, will be very happy to time to sonsider It.
The same aam was placed on against the feeling whlou anofficial members in plaas which involve so much detail as thors souder in the proper way--but wast I cbject to, and what I am quite certain anyone holding te
Hon. P. ITRIE aked If the notion was agreed bean supplied, that we go on to the next order, what works shall be exvented.
posed and awoonded and the informsilon baring considering the ontimate and Bnally deolding them last year, but until a site is selected it any users in connection with it. The hon. See water and drainage works, it is imposible to
la imposible to lay before the Council plans and member on my left (Hon. G. Chatory has carry out precisely the original plan, bu of the day, and that this paper (ths list of diam The AUTING COLONIAL SECRETARY stated petimates and partio.ines with regard to the spoken to me more than once about the work, the work goes on certain wodifestions and in
cannot the
not satisded" Who are thuas offlers!!
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The subject than dropped.
THE LOAN.
That the Gavarnmast lax upon the table pista and detailed statement whowing-
com.
The total amat of interest pud, principal 1-Ins total amaust in dolars rooived by this Cobar en adecuat of the loan for 229,00! and rate to be eaten on the an from the date of borrowing until sow, or to 80's fuselant, scary so soareaient late of this year 3.The total am sunt of so omission pail to the Crown Agents or ciberala donacetion with the ban, -The total amme of ages, advertising and all others, incurred and paul in respect of the Inai
STas profit se-lons in exultauze on-schuf the arounts of the losa repaid annually.
Hon. P. RYRIE-I have no objection to offer
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