SUPPLEMENT TO THE "HONGKONG DAILY PRESS."
HONGKONG LEGISLATIVE COUNCIL
A zavoling of the Legislative Council was held on the 7th February. There were present:-
Hie EXCELLENCй the GOVERNOR, Ho F. SrowDEN, Acting Chief Justi Hon. M. 8. TOYNCONS, Aefjug Colonial Sears
tary
Hon. E. L. O'HALYET, Altonay-General. Ho, W. M. DRAGE, Acting Colonial Traa
surer
Ho. P. Reike.
Hon. No Crow.
Hon. F. B. JOHNSON,
Hon. E. R-BELILIOS.
MINUTE.
THA JOVERNOR'S STATEMENT.
HONGKONG, TUESDAY, 21ST FEBRUARY, 1882.
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by the Chinese inhabitants of the colony to pas or Hi EXCELLENCY said the Hon. Mr. Johnson
THE WATER SUPPLY.
| Sonretary of State, that there rail be a fall. | norso guerilans et impartanée connected with the wors bought for speculative purposes, and they godowns bus been felt by the merchants, nadirat because in the cam of houses so effected ekimen former opinion he hold, namely, that a contract ing off in the opium, ropane when the opintu sifat of the colony, questions which bare ramiu idle. A similar charge appears to have bar manufactured sea incrassing, and you will myght have been made for them to be sybai. of sarvion should be in writing, and thara'oro a fene was sold fuis year. However, three antibion tought to the notion of Her Majesty's boon made as regards the silo of the Crown potion, and Iain happy to motivo, tant not bhly If the door were opened to wash claigos I dare referanse was mule to the Serratury of State, cipations have pob. besa veritat. I bare sold Government, as appears in the lostratione given laods in 1881 This is a matter of grest in has there been on inorease of satorprise and pins-asy the soffers of the Government will be soon 7 will not read the whole of what I lay before you, the opium faria for 1869 for $210,003, others to Melindwiak, by apresentations made on the toast, and I have therefors naked the Surveyor parity on the part of the foreign commualty, but emptied and there would not be money onaugh but you will find here no extract on the subjet has baon no falling off in the current revendo subiect constant representation, Lord General to favour with a return of the virions also on tho pact of the Qisore. Some time ago to meet the damndr. To tabing the doors of from a bipash of mine to the Berl of Kimberley, which is $205,000...is looking through the Kimbelay sya-by the officer in command of lots sold in 1881 by the Garenment, with I observed, in referring to the progress of Enulis, beuses, the ceilings are brought nearer to the with which I need not trouble you, hat tha items of revenus which I am putting upon the the pan to the condition of the Chinese statement as to what ban been done or in pro at the Secretary of State for Inila. Lord ground; consequently a three-store fun house in follows the decision of the Seratary of Stato. trile, you will see that in this rotary in states horrent the system of drainage, which hoped to be done with the land so sold. Now I Hartington, looked forward to the time when conres of time bosorons a swo-storeyed house. He says "I have to acknowledge recript of that there is a considerable increase in what are sever injuriously affecting the health of the fad that the first lot sold was inland lot No. 579. public works in India might be so far sus-permanent injury being thus inadvertently dane our dispatal endlosing letter from Captain eslled fee of office. The indrons in 185400 pude dommand. The sanitary It was sold for $1,500 to a Chinese gentleman, panded that many of them would be nader to the property. Rants are missed on avosunt Thomsont relative to the only that has asunited" to "820,015. Da apelying that Se- straf toe Colour is alwayen question of great, and upon that lot he is occting a umber of taken by private enterprise. When you cou, of the smaller accommodation, and the propasty arises as to his ditios a emigration oficer. presso, which I dn from a rotas furnished 100 Interty to 15% and there being 200 or 1.000 houses. The wort lot call in 1891 was lub No sider what is done by the Server Dupart depreciates in proportion. For this sasen, 1 The main polat at issue appears to be what is s by my honourable friend, the Colonial Treasurer Emerson troops in the colony, the nodical super 20 at Kowloon, a Marino lot. That has been ment in this eclony, you cannot but notice how maintain, householders have so far contributed contract of service, and I agron generally with Captain Deane, I find the items of that insuse vialv tem opportunity as it word, by sold to the Hongkong and Whomper Dook amell the amount really is which wo lay out in their wite towards improvements that have been you in thinking it is not eats wory such are of great importans in considering the quae ease of the Quartally of the troops, of testing Co. a company, as you know, one of the most public works as compared with what may be socomplished, conseq tently it will be only fair contract should ho la writing." "The main p dit. The minutes of the last mooling wero read tion of the prosperity of the colony. I find, for its saglig stafa I do not by say means assert flourishing in the Last, whisk is doing andons by private enterprise and by capital of all for the Tramways Company to contribute their is thas decided and the reat of the dispatch hon. and confirmed.
instance, that the items for licenser and fers of that mortally and sickness among the troops ensity of good in the colony. That was classes when the onlony is really prosper. quota towards taising the level of the atrasta. members will have the opportunity of parasing. À FOINT OF OLDER
jonks, which counted in 1850 to $18,080, in show de conal mortality and sickness in the purchased with a view to the erection of houses ous Sir. Heroulse Robinson entertained the Now under this Eill as it stands, when wishing
THE STAIN OF THE ROADS, Hou. F. B. JunaBUN-1-clas, air, to a point reased in 1891 to $19,39. Now betoon tho years colony, Lagauseli is gouerilly greater among the for the workmon employed at the dock, the scheme forming Prays Wall at Kow to raise the lotel of rusda la fotore, the Sur- Hon. F.D. Jottaor-Pheuszt question Chara af order.
1880 and 1691, there was als au fuorcats du troos but vacíor your by year the mortalite buildings not yet sommenced. The next Iseloon and whisread canning from it out into voyor-Gonoral will have to romgro and to relay to pat is as to the state of the ads, to which you Hit ExebLLENCE Yço are out of order, mir. the foreign shipping, and the foreign atomer sign the tenojis, we arrive at come conclusion was a 1st sold to Messrs. Belilion and Chatar, for deep water go that steamers and ships world tramways at Gavaramont expente. For my part have already dindel Fon bara expressed your The order book etates that the Brut basinssprchased by the Chinese, The juzli trudo of as to the condition of the houses in the vicinity $18,525 and upon that lot kodawas' au bonsea ro slongside The expense was considacebo. I shall be happy if the enterprise of my hou opinion that the roads were in an extreme. before the Council today is the Goroner's the culong has to compete with this wasting of the ranks. The complaints to which Lord are to beersted daring the outrent year. Speak. The solems was considered by the govern vient, friend opposite recetrod a further concession ly satisfactory stato. Now, that was not the statement on opening the Session of 1882. I sluters, nut when we und that the trade of the Kimberley refers, and by the Ocot Coin ingin the prosence of any hon. friend Ble, Belilios but it was felt the time bail nat vúms for the baise the largest forsigu taxpayer hingolf my opinion of the members of this Council in Fi should think this is the first time in any colony osmating steamers, and the general foreign ship minding the troops in vaglong in 1979, 1980, I may say that though the godewas ere not yet government to nadortako it. Now it is being hon. friend sad your Excelleney, as the cus-nance Committes in August last, aut from any in which when that appeared upon the order brok plag of the colony increased at the ente time and 1981. I hate before me a rotarn of the four-finished some of them are actually let, such is undertaken, not by the government, but by tedian of the public parse, will be better judges, own chairsation and the observation of all these any honorable member ondervonod to interpost with an increase in the junk trado, we have & tality among the troops during those thrae yaara, the demand for busiausa preminus in the pole private enterprise, and I are sure you will agrae Spanking generally, I presume it will be a hard- who have had experience of roula, their goodi between the Governor and his annál statement combination which shows that the commirez of and 1 Und that the number of deathamoegst the by. The next lot was a small one sold for with me nothing can be more healthy, as a sign ship for the taxpayors to be compelled to fusartian is vary much the same sa it was then, ox. to the members of the Coquil. I treat such this colony is in a state of great prosperity. white troops--that is amongst the man, women, $1,765, purchased by a European gentleman for of our frospority, thao that works of that kinda ozponse which they have not Leeu in the capting that the weather is new dry and wadon't u udtrrence will not take place again at this With regard to the furoigu shipping, I have not nud children of the Europea fraps amenated very atafal purpose, namely, a lawn tennis should be nudortakon, not by the government; habit of incurring in the past. It will be experience the inconvenienos, su puch. I am Council tabis.
yat before me tho rotura, but as you ara-nware, to 29 to 1979; in 1980 this had fallen to 20, and ground, which has been constructed. The next but by private suterpcion. The garernment bors in mind that the roads have not gone afraid your Excellenny has not fan ranently the ravanus from the light duos furuishes a cor last year, 1881, it only amounted to 9, so that as lot, for $2,025 was also' soki to any onterprising could not afford to lay out a million dollars oan to the tramways, but that the tramways bara in the neighbourhood of East Point. It is now His EXCELLENCY-Honourable gentlemen of tain criterion for the increase or dimination of far as Lusso returns which we have just receivedi friend Mr. Chister, and upon that let there have work of that kind. Of course the sagar rafsary come to the roads. Considering the mangasius nine months ago eines I called your attention to the Legislative Connoil, in spring the Legis. the forsign shipping truis. I find that the from Cue milify sunburities indiose, there has been erected tons galows for the storage of to which I have referred is cno that purely be that have been made and the privileges that bare the fact that slong a portion of the Peaya in -Intive Session of 16593 I have to inform you that increase on light dues of foreign shipping been steady decline in the mortality of the white kersire oil and they will contaiu about longs to the domain of private enterprise. But been granted to the Tramways Company, I think that direction, the road was a foot higher ok.one the Que as beon graciously picasid to on-mounts to $4,660. Well that sonlu itself a troops in the colony of late years. Now, taking a 120,000 ans, The buildings are nearly it is manifest that whatever you may say with it is fair, in the otantefcironmatanove sonositat side than the other. I can dower for it that no- firm and allow thirteen of the fourteen. Or. small sum, but when you remember that be rotero of the same guare, which has just arrived completed. There was a small feland i saldrespect to the prosperity of the delery as ing it, that they should pay for removing and re-thing has been done to this road sixes I returned dinonors which were passed in 1881. Of these light duas only amonet to one sout per ton. this corning, of the whole population of the to-Mr. Ede, which is still uncoupied. Two thown by the revanna retuens, by the general laying their own lines; otherwise, ircespective of to the Colony in March last. As I seribed the Ordinansus, No. 1 of 1531, the Masso Extradition upon the foreign shipping, the stall appa. calong, wo find that taking the male population very toportant lots were sold at Bowrington to commercial activity of the colony, by the cost, I am afraid improvemente to roads would he road, it is at least three quarters of a fnol Ordinance, one which deals with a question rent incronse means in ineresse of 256,000 in 1879, the ceath. mio among the Chinese Lai Wai Tsang, ous for $10,025 and the other fortuante position of the colony with regard to a thing of the past. On every attempt at improve higher at one side then at the ether. There which sogaged the attention of my predecessary tons on foreign shipping in one year in our amonated to 33. per thousand, in 1980 it had for $8,025, and upon the lots that Chinees the diminution of crime and the greater comfort ment the Enrveyor-General would be haunted by are water courses ruuning down is trínavorsely, for forty years, and is bas now born sottled by colony. So that I calculate the tonnage of fallen to 99 per thousand, and in 18-1 it had gentleman is constructing, as you all way see a and case of every one as regards the protection the road of the oappuse; it would prova a prit la dangerons for vehicles, and there are holes the negociations of Lord Kimberlyg ned, Lord forsigo shipping cleared and entered in Hongfalleg to 24 por thousand. These figuron are very large sugar refizety. The sites selecter is of life and property-whatever judications of feet bugboar to him, and eventually it would in which any hot might a dolls. I am sare Granville with this Government of Lisbon. And kong in 1881 will oroped 8,200,000. There mintly satisfactory, as showing the general one that, as you know, has remained porfectly file prosperity may be seen in that it is also on that bo found that us improvements would be onder. Į the Surrogor-Qanerai kiss not boon on that part though and abbadly the credit of that settlement area for other items, which, though appa. condition of the health of the nolens, and as sud geass grown up to this year. It is between democres congratulation that in the history of takoa.
of the real or he wonkt hatyanbaserad this, belongs entirely to the Eome Government, rently small, natonbelly indicate prosperity showthe what mistakes have bas mule by those the great premises of Jardino, Matheson and Co. Hongkong thero never was a time shou there Hen. E. B. Jonason asked at what stage the His EXCHANux said he might point out to nevertheless the advantage of if will be felt by in the colony, and those are the increase who believe that owing to the inpresse of the and the city of Victoria. Upon this ground was more entérprias, activity, and prosperity matter was at prosent,
his hon. friend as a point of onler, that the quuse the Governments of Hacao and Hongkong.for the of our revenues from cargo basta and, cargo. Chinspo population, or any other cause, the sa. that sugar refinery is now being built. It is the among all classes of the coramanity Earopėsus Hia ExoTLLENCY said the actual motion tion was pen the paper, and it ought to be Exerativos of both solonica will now be enabled bouta' cortilicates, from the shipping of nitary state of the oclony for the last three first time that a sugar refinery, as such, haa boon as well as Chinese. And there in one class baform the Council was that the report be new asked in the forms in which it them appeared. It to deal with fugitivo etiminals in a way that they sailors, and from the examinations of masters, rears has bem getting worse, instead of steadily constructed in the colony of Hongkong, for the of enterprise, an intellectual enterprias, to considered. They waali buvo to go into Com-was not in order that thers should be a isħata could not before. Ordinanca No. 3 of 1881, the and engincors, upon all of which items there inpreng Now on this subject of the health sugar refuery a little furthor to the cast, which which I have great pleasure in referring. I wittee of the whole Council upon it.
aga a question. The actual role in the House. Panol Lawa Amendment Ordinance, now on. is uncrease upon the year. And under of the troops, dizere is ons topic which I bare is called the Dust Point Sugar Refinery, con- mysuit have the Locour of belonging to Hon. F.. B. JOHNSON move thas the car of Comvions, and in Parliamentary practice was firmed by the Queen, is not the least important the head of misogllaneous receipts, I find c09-. not rḍerred to before, but which I must tenolsists of a series of buildings watch, as you are the Inns of Court in London, I passed an siduration of the Bill in Committes be adjourned that all questions should be liraitel as far as colonial reform in the penal laws that Eng been sifterabloinorenses in the rozomne from the storage upon flow, boosuse I am instrusted by the Se-aware, was constrasted originally with a view of examination ia l'insolu's Inn. Some of my until to-morrow.
possible to matters connected with the business effested in our time.. İt repeala or amenda ton of gunpowder and kerosine. The total amount cretary of State to preparo an Orilivance to deal doing something: ta remedy, the inconvenience. learned friends who are provant know that al The ATTORNEY-GENE ÉAL, called attention to Parliament, sad not put in such a way Ordinances, some of them of armor tional severity, of caveine ander the head of miscalisteons in wich what is called the Contagious Disensos felt with regard to the currency of the colony thespoxaminations thera ste young man from the fact that in the minutes of the Spesial as to bring out opinion, arrument, and in- and all practically directed against ons race only, 1880; was 26,695, whereas in 1981, it was Ordainda. You will am doubt remember that by gulablishing here a Minki Hercules Oxford, and Chebrière, Londen University and Commitbe the names of the members present at forecce. They had a corta anant of The Ordinauch gives perquest logislative au- $18,294. Now that increase was effected without in 1877, and in January 1878, I bad the respen Bebinson constrasted these fire buildings for a King's College, and this grow unpetition is for the meetings were giren al the games of those opinion, argement, and interes very well thority to a polity which the Royal prorogative the imposition of any new taxes whatever. The sibility of appointing u Commission to inquire Mint. They woro subsequently cold-I think it the studentships or sulolarships then givin at absent, and the name of the Attorney General stated; but it was not in accendanus with enabled me to vnförde for zomb years pust, in epilo taration of the onins to the present into the operation of this Ordinegon,, and the was unfortunate—for ions than third of what Lincoln's Inn, Last year a young man born appeared amongst the latter througboat Ho Parliamentary practice to to this in putting a of some little local criticism, and henceforth it; woment at precisal ta sumo liguro ns it Registrar Geowal's views in connection with it they cost, but I am bound to say they are now under the British dug in this colony sencoded asked for an explanation of this, as he had not question. He noticed years ago, in Stera.. will be illegal in this coloay to brand-any eri. (test when I first besania Governor of Hong. You vill alsq remember that ans ranit of the most usefully employed by a most energodo aul, at that sxamination in defeating his competi. been appoiutol on the Committos.
pora, that the panties was the sims thera, minal, ta kava public flogging, to allow flogging kong, and the increase of terenna that has pant of that commissipa, and the Inquiry) asetal Company, the Cuius Jugar Relining tors from Oxford and Cambrils, from London Explanations were given by the Governor and as in the House of Commons, No argamenta in Hongkong, cosopting for such effancos às ou-good on is therefore an increase of covenate that fagan in 1873 was that statements were in- Company With regard to the sagar refinery University and from the Sahotch and Irial Uni. the Obief-Justice from which it appeared that were allowed on questions. The hon. memher tail logging in England, or to allow logging on spandont upon the increase progtans, and distritaly calated throughout the colony to being built by the Chincse a little nearer the varsities, and in three of the subjects of emami. the Attorney General had consented to, set on had asked his question, and be wight way that tho hook. The impolitio Ryaton now abolished prieperity of the Colony. Well in connection the seat that certain moorures which I adopted town, the machinery for that building is being nation bo obtained first place. "That le Mr. Hồ the Committes, but by an oversight the appoint. the attention of the Asting Surveyor General by the Queen and the legislature of this calong, belib that, I bave to ask your attention to the to put an end to shua that I found in opera- obtained from England; it is of the best kind, Kai, a gentleman born in this colohy. I think meut was not made before the Governor left for was enlied to the minute of the Finance Catal though Cerise for the suppressten of orline; had farpanditars of the coking. The orpenditure in tion der that Ordinance, wochi sisse an in- with all the lateat Improvements, and the it in a matter we may all congratulate oncieleas Peking, and his guide had been inserted in the nittee, and that that oftar was acting upon it. actually manfuctured à criminal population, an 1880 acuated to 3855.000, whereas in 1337, the crease of contagioua diseases amongst the troops. machinery and Solldings will post about upon, and that young gentleman, who has been minutes as absent ander wrong impression. (His Excellency) had inspected, as well as his Jucard erine This abolition has been follow, sucunt was somewhat lurger, siz, 3905,000. Thass who had not an opportunity of kroging $050,000. I find shut a small lot, inland lot No. called to the bar, beging vilained that important. The motion that the Donncil go fato Com- losjure would permit kin to do, the work which ed by the vicution of time, and universal The diference, you will obseren, between the the fasta cireulsted Shoso ramons throughout 622, was sold for $510 to a European. gentleman distinction, will arrive, I think, this month in the mitten on the Bill to-day (Wednesday) was ear- had been performed, and he was bond to my, hə fueling throughout the colour, to which you sat revenue collected in 1881 and the orpenditure the oslony, and Ibóliero over to thin ing it is for the storage of timber. Next there is a lot colony, and I am sure you will all join, with me | ried.
was not dissatisfied with the way in which the all bear witness, that life and property have of that year is about $100,000. You will generally understood in some quarters that cold for $2,545 to another Enropean gentleman in welcoming him. Mrattention has been called
CORRESPONDESCE EK "DCEAN."
work had been attended to. There had been a baccae muza secure in Hongkong, I fuw no parbaps inquire what has been done with tint Thought it was admitted that the abuses which 7 for turesite piores. These godowns have
number of visitors in the eclony, who had been wish, gentlemen, to weary you vidi, statistics, esperaltare, aut expect reference has born put mi onil to were rarolling abuse, though it be bearly completed. The next lot, a small two things in which they are specially interested, hat given notice of a motion with respect to the in various other colonies in different parts of the bat ayrhaps mention to yoa tha sady the expordure of last year under was smitded that it was impossibió any one, sold for $205, le still unoconpied. Icome and I have had under my consideration a aphouse production of thecorrespondenes with the Govern, world, and they had all told him that in caue of hoolia ga' which baga perently hon p fus Lesd of works and buildings. I fad that Ocveramont could sauction, some of the now top vozy important sale that was offested of they have put balore me by which wealthy ment of New South Wales relative to the pusson- these colonies had they seen the riods in each before HD with reference to the clamor the spouilitare on works and buildinga in 1861 alasee which were defeated by the Comunis. Kowloon of marine lote No 20 and 21 Bold Chinese in this colony might have an opportunity-gers by theicase, and since than the hou-gentoofordernathy wore her at the present moment. herines which aime years ago comod so curto amplied to 850781, es compared with 850.065|sion, ret neverthelog putting a stop to them, one for 329, 125 and the other for $24,025. They afforded them of putting aside a certain portion man had written to say be had no intention of | The hou. maileman entertained one opinion, mui Palarm farbaghvat the colony. I take the fourth the preceding rae, showing an ireronse of land specially of the clauses caused by the om- have been paret asal by Mr, Chater. The ground of the money they make, investing it in such a moving for this porrespondence. Ha might say | be, representíar las Governinent, enterainad njj- youre doing which, as I have frumentiqnpl. | 20050, Tardes the huud of what are callsch, za voat of paid, informera. the stopping of is now being reclaimed from the ses. I had on way as to benefit their descendanta and also to that he was prepared to give what was asked for other. That gentleman was entitled to exteriala under the exornisa vi the Royal pislogation askancora partists, "thers. Vene un increase Lub¦ these matters would undenhtedly cause an in- opportunity some time ago of examining the benefit the colony. I was brindly say this a sa what was called an anopposed return, bat such an opinion and in a proper way might wego. I pratically suspended (Ecoś powal laws, which vine of $11,000. Nume with soutach to maranandil zzoma 12. Llio amount of dievais amezuat the plans anð offituates, non with respect to that trust ayatem, a system of forming a species of what was referred to as the porcospondence bo- 11k upon than when the vote for Reads nod alien Malgary,bus som allthe funeraires, tha ilim steden ser fansa miejskied. Jeg the Ordinanda, important work)75 b-ve been furnished by The-- randt projects won magnað alkalmisveron bratween the invaramonts, as well as she tomom. Bridgus cutia ot, 'In answer, to the quietion murder neinbored seven, and its number was of repairs to bailliams, suduoti tv14,090, as was passeit, is the instance of the Logs: Con- Danby, with a robniorandum in which he states certus number of the Chineso community, bored was, with the geoption of one letter, he would say that Mr. Bowler's citation pas Yoduced to "four in 1870. In 1999 thoro wa ona compiad with $31,523 in the proceding chor: manding the troops bore mony years ago. · It bod The ground on the beaches Kowloon between Tein. perhaps loss who guise one of our Ordi telegraphic correspondence. It was a curres calfad to the matter, and that offer had done casa, and in 1881 two cases. Ell uses of violate Ora large cauan of instaras is the typhoon brea't, baen devigan for the troops, and for what was rats and the Bagal Natal, Coal shots was aidos condnot tho affairs of the Fang pondence rospeating the alleged prevalence of all in his power to put the reads and brâigos in.
of robbery with violonso from the person, the water in Cassoway Bay, the expcuditors upon called protecting the soldiers and sailors. Now in lately to Goverment to some inaantial capitalists Wals. Hosgitel, and to that boils of -Chiness small.pir and the quarantine laid on the steam to a proper state.
in the Colony, who propano utilising it for commercial sumber was to in 157, 33 in 1978, 353 in 1st) which is 500,955, wark is proceding, and looking to the royalt of changes 1. felt it my purpose by eredug large Godowan and Cast Sheds will be given from time to time consideratie ship Usin at Sidney, and as well as he roment- and JE la 1881. Caser of barglary, or larcent will be so far completed before the aux typhoen daty to ask for is turn from the Military con The grond still be reclaimed by than, sums by wealthy Chinese which will be in rested bored he bad laid the whole of that correspondance The Hon. F. B. JOHNSON asked whether from.delling houses, atmounted to 131 in 1879, 1968cm; in to turnish at that time, it we should Authorities showing the number of soldiers strong ses well being exerted in front and for the them, a certain portion, say woven touths in outhe tablu already. He begged to informthe bum. final instruatious bare heen received from the to 101 is 1559, 53 in 2850, and to 20 in 1987. bave a typhoot,asabstential protontots just staring from contagiosa discars during the while length of the ground, wharves will also to can be appropriated so as te benefit the descendants member he could obtain the corruapendence as Colonial Oflee with regard to the proposed ex There wore two assants will do bet to col te populatica. Iberg has been a slight increase in tour years past; that as during the time that structul ab katorrala along the front of the zu well by giving them education, and in other ways, an anopposed return. He would take that optousion of water supply?". Eo sad it was al 1889, and nono in 1991. Taking the details of stem of street lamps, which amountsto418. the reforms which I felt it bacassary to introduce as that. Tozeale of begs toning can buy alongsite and theso really grase ocime, which have caused so loro is an increase in the telegraph service had boon in operation, Heruare the gares which or dinge lake in cars, at any state of the remaining three-tenths to be dorotad to the partnmily of saying that in the zotiss as saut most nassssary that ho should oste some obser
tids and in all weathers this position being sheltered pablis futerests of tagalooy, in general.. A to the Clerk of Council there aboarrod the word vations about the matter, as bie Excellezey bad- reuch apprehension unas alarm, in 1873 ar from 22900 to 35,60). As you are amaze, our bago been furnished to the Colonial Bestars from typhoone and strong sales by the Romioon hilis. rebeme of that kind, carefully elaborated, barbarbaruns the barbarone treatment of answered she gusttion in part, and some expleue- amounted to 178 jim stal, in 1979 to 14k a telegraphic communications as now.coppested which have been farsiehod by the Military Antho Moa-of ung and steamships aichas immediately in besti spasidered by, I am justibed in asying, the these people. The fact was notices of motren tion was bedeseary 1880 to 81, and in 1891 to 81. The only other with all the police stations in the colony. Two rities on the Wide Fanuary Inst. In 1878thepura front of this place during the typhoon season. The whole Chinese community of the solony. They sould not be placed on the order book if they wore Hia EXCELLENCY said that the answer he lass of cue to shiak I xuter is unsil submarine lines have boon laid across the bar amounted to 188, in 1979 to 182, in 1880 to 164 storage capasity of the whole of the godowns will be have put it betere mo. I am disposed to give it themselves irregular or cut of order, and any should give to the question was that the find
about 375,000 tona, and the capital that, will have one which has sugared a good deal of the barbour, and you are also no doubt aware that and in 1881 to 136. You therefore see that the abo- been laid out on the project when completed will the most favourable consideration, and I zaen. words in a notice of motion which were objec. instruations had not baas received from the Eart attention of his bonear the Chief Justice we are abstituting iron posts in the place of lition of abuses in that aber upisant depart cagion milion dollars.
tion it now with great satisfaction because tonnole gould be expanged. That waste of Kimberley. Since then the sanitation of and that is kidnapping, With rearence
ment of the public service has also had a almitar I and the next lots, are late bonght by En- it also indiostos the public prosperity of the pesulice in the House of Commons, and from the colony had been taken up by Afr. Chadwick, to that orima, yon rare that Lord Kimbar. isoellereous iteras which account for this in effoot to that which took place in tha mora im.ropean friends of mine, some as sites forelay. As inng as these gentlemo, who, un time to time they might have soon, and especially and until bis report was ennatded by tha les instructed in to approve in his name of & ormes I find the item of compensation to Mr. porteat one of our ponal legislation. I will not bungalows on the hills Mossra. Alford, Ede, you know, new represent the wealthiest rate in the last session of Parliament, that the Spoker Government, they could hardly expect to see the Chiaest Bacity, which we deals practically Coughtrio of $1,500. That compensation I dwell open that subject further than tossy that in Remedios, Stephens and others. The ground is payers in the community, as long they desire had to call the attention of the House to the matter niken in hand. with the suppression of flat seims, acting in con- think was claimed in Mar, 1878, at all events the lastractions given by Lord Kimberley to me, still unoccupied Next we come to a lot, at Bol to establish themselves and their descendente in fiet that he had directed the Clerk to expanga
eet with the Captain 8xperintendent of Polico. uzsiderable time ago, by Mr. Coughisie, for an important otanges are ludiquted in the existing thor's Bay, which was sold for 36,100. In the colony for over, so long, gentlemen, we have certain words from the notice of motion that The Hon. F. B. Jovos thau asked why the The sonsygashes is that the smallest number of injury wbleh he stated was done to his dwelling Ordinatico; when tirst Ordinapse has been propar-point of fact I believe that on that lot there will a guarantee for byalty and good order, and on had been given and the potions appeared in aittings of the Basation Commission, nominated kidnapping tasks tome decored in the four hosso by the bursting of a drain, and he ed it will be my duty to submit the draft in the be constructed a dock of large dimensions, for the whole, gentlemen, in opening the legislative a different form from that in which they had on the 27th August, 1880, inve been suspended, years I hate referred to was in 1881, when bald the Sarvey Department responsible for it. first instance to the Secretary of Stats, and when it some of the Chinese gentlemen who purchased session for 1983 I think we can all look forward, boen banded in. They would omoinber as and when they will be resutead? wo had only be sadh cases. This, I believe, He applied for $1,500, and after vory long has been sanctioned by Her Majesty's Govermeat, that walashie place of Crown land have expressed without anxiety, not only to the present pear, in which the Clerk informed Mr. Labonohere i owing to tho eporations of the Society inquiry into the matter, I am happy to say that it will be laid before you. I beltere Inged the words, to me their regret that Her Majesty's ship but to the continued prosperity of the polosy.
His ExceLLENCY said the practice had heon that he could not place his motion on the order for the Chaitrand to call the meetings. He had the skill and energy of the police force, the Bar of Kimberley samotioned the claim, revolting stuces in reference to those which constant abould be seen leaving this, harbour to
Hon. F. 5. Joussox-Will your Exoelergy book. Upon that there was an attempted dis the honour of appointing the commissioners and and the zoon of the Suprania Coart in ad that the sum of $1,500 has been paid to I put a stop to. They are in fact the words used prcosed to Nagasaki to be docked, and thoy inform me if I shall now bo.in ortor
cussion. The speaker prevented the hon member Dr. Stewart was the Chairman. passing heavy sences on use who are him. A to the ordinary services of the colony, by the Burl of Kimberley himself in raferring to undertake that when they have an opportunity convicted of that offence. I believe that by these sush as the provision of an efficient polles force, sag alsee I found existing. There are on the of making their now took, Hongkong will the order book.
His EXCELLANCE No. We must adhere to fresh proseeding, and said that any attempt Hou, F. 3. JOHNSON grid a evolution was means the privyl kidnappere are at the providing a proper staff for the Harbour Do whole, gentleman, no reasons to be disappointed then have a dook capable of taking in the
to being a mattoe bofore the house; which passed in Septembar that the commission shonid OPIUM ORDENANCE
he had decided to be irregular and out if we overy Saturday. Whose fault it was that present voment loghal up in our gael. Amongst pariment and doing what is required for the with the sanitary state of the colony. The rearrest VASRA in Her Majesty's fervice. I HiS EXCELLENOT moval-tha- first reiding order could not be permitted, and to that Mr. no meetings had been called lately he did no the other Ordinshins presti 1981, is Ordinace her establishments in the colony, I have noturna indicate progres and improvement in the find certain works which were undertaken in of An Ordinance to Amand the Opium Ordi. Labouchere stunde yielded. In this case he know. No. 14, the Companies Ordinance, which intro bavitation in saying that the Government has public honith, and in the health of the troops: Duddell straat, and for a small portion of which mance No 2 of 1858." He explained that it (ie Bacallency) took the responsibility of dused sous reforms that were pressed upon my not been in any way backward; I think my but I am not satisfied with the hadith of the some Grown land was sold. My hon. frisad on was introduoad by direction of the Secretary haring the word "barbarous" struck out. It was supposed Dr. Stewart was Chairman of the The ACTING COLONIAL TREACTRțI said it attention by my honourable friend, the senior anhau, friend on my left, the band of the polio colony nevertheless. I think that the town my left (Mr. Bellissy has those works in hand of Sinto, its obot being the protection of was a reflection, as it appeared to time, on the Commission as Colanial Secretary ex-officis. It. oille I member of tiss Daishative Council. I is force, will bear me out in shyfog that any er might be made a model of sanitation with the also. Upon that site the ia row being built, prepared opium in ironsitu ihrough the colony. goterapient of New South Wales, and it was wiht possibly be for that reason that no manting an Ordine that facilitates the work of those poadities required for that force has never been position of Victoria on the slope of a hill, the as you see, substantial and magnifiemt godowns
VEHICLES ORDINANCE.
not desirable any thing of that kind should he had been held anbsequently. He (thosphers camusfil associations Biet are doing so much refused by the Executive, and the same, I passibility of obtaining au almost unlimited eap. and I think some of these, as many as nias of Bis RXCELLENCY moved this flest reading of allowed to appear in a potkia of motion. be utilise the surplus capital of the colony. In think, will be said by the gentlesa at the head ply of water for drinking and washing purposes, then, though not yet finished, are actually 1st. An Ordinance to raced the Velaiolos Ordi
Hon. F. B. JoHNSON saisi be withdrew theat Dr. Stewart's request. I tho curt place Acting Colenial Secretary presidelatoa meeting, covaction with the Appropriation Ordinance of the Harbour Department, As to our reads, and having bore a native population who will Finally I come to a lot with respect to which over, Noi ♣ of 1983,”*
notice of motion for the reason he expressed in the meetings were postponed in order that a for 1882, which, bor Majasty has sanctioned, I rivets, and bridges. I am on the whole per carry out the Chiness oustom con more by which there has been a good deal of talk, inloud Tot
the letter to the Clerk of Council and for other large mass of the reports from the school am laping to-day apon the table some dispatchon leatly satisfied with the stats they are in. I the sewage styl refuse is carried cat of the No. 837, which was ad for $24,500 to Moses.
ressons he did not think it movesary to go into masters taight be pelated. and some fraid papers. The inaccial papers bare over and over again intimated to Mr. peleay, and nsed for agricultural purposes, in- Butterfield and Swire. That is lot about ball. Bills for the naturalisation of Lai Shan Ting, at the time. After he had given the notice bo, I am putting before you craist, as umal, of the Price and to Mr. Bowdler, that any assistance stead of allowing it to be washed upon the shore way between this and Shaw-ki-wan, at a place Chan Tear Cho, Ny Li Hing, Yan Chong Terr. reveived information from bis friend the Chair communication on the subject from Dr. Stowach is EXCELLENCT id he had received no comparative statements of revono and expanli- required for that department, I am prapered to of the colony. Having a popolation Recalled Quarry Bay, and the only reason why any and Chan Man Wing
un of the Chamber of Commerce to to effect The momost the chango took place in the turo of the past year is comparison with that of sauction; and, I believe the condition of cortomel to that sensible practice, I have very little one can speak of the Government having The AOTING COLONIAL TREASURER said he that a letter had been received from the Colonial Colorial Secretary's Office he tech steps to sp the preceding year that is the statement of 1531, strets cad route, se far from being aasa-doabt this colony oau be made a model of sanita rot larger prices than it really nght trasted that before theas Ordinanons were passed Secretary wish referenco to corresp valence be point him a member of the Commission~he compared with that of 1880. And that the tisfactory, is highly editable to the Sarvey tion. I observed the other day that Professor to expect for land is that perhaps with schelgles would be attached describing who the tween the Chambers of Commerce, and he wished had already been a fria meber-bat vo revenue for the your 1881 amenoted to oror Department. On the whole, gentlemen, I think Tozley, speaking on the sanitary state of some referens to the sain of that lot an incident gentlemen were to whom they referred. In ather to see that correspondense before bringing the communication had been remited as to the $1,100,000, being the largest revenue ever colleet yan have a reason to be alasatisfied with the pristal natives that we had been the habit socarred which perhaps might give rise to the cases it had been merely the naturalization notice on As to the ward His Excellesey had requestion of chairmanship. What be would sug ed in this colony. You are aware that for soma expanditara por have veted, and with the mode in of calling harbarous, said they were actually ides there was coure speculation. Tu point of fact of a name. In Dr. Bitel's case they know who ferrod to, if His Excellency assumed the respongest was that, as meal, the concite appolat yours past I have impressed upon y the fact which it has bon laid out. There are certain more sivilised than ourselves in the mods in I think it was $5,000 or $1,000 that is ocs intended from the preamble, but with regard sibility of striking out the word for the reason their own chairman sud process quickly as that in my opinion it was not proper to treat as works watch I was anxious to so carried out which they treat sowage, and lo reforrod opo, spitation with Mr. Bowdler we arranged as the to the other bills which had been passed he had given be had no objection to take to the exercise possible to business. Intan, rotarus the proceeds of the sale of franaveral yours ago, with which at that time I cially to the Chinese, and their mode of dealing sumat which the aprot price for that lot shenld be in his sniplay, some gentlemon who might olains of His Excellency's distration in that instanes
THE POINT OF ORDER ladda I have always hold be represent the dility to doul odd the repaim to the Thick where thing to Isara from these ravalve representations from Mr. Bowdlar that naturalization Ordinates, and there was nothing New South Wales. The hon. member prooseded which I wish to refer relates to the order of our The Front of the sale of Crore remember the Earveren Gangral expressed his will it. It is one of the class of mijote in tized. I may wontion that an anal in aneh easing I them as visic names corresponded with the as he had a desire to insult the Government of Hon. F. B. JonsSON-The point of ordor to empital of the clony, and thersfors in the tigars Praya Wall had on complated. There in people, and the possibility of Dagland itself re the apt price was somewhat too high. From to show who was astucalised. I shall give to you, I do not inolta that a provisial for new gal on Stone Catternoonsidering the question of the underground time to time in 1881, with respect to the lots at
--I shall now be in order in rising to a piut of proceedings to-day On the 4th instant, Satar. important item. But adding that item, we find Island. That is a matter which Las been drainage system to carry all the exeremail Bowrington specially, I myself ventured congestion & good one.
His EXCELLEROY said he thought the sig order. It will be in your Extollenoy's recollo-day last, I gave notion to the Clerk of Cancils that the sam actually collated caste to presed vary mash upon my attention by itious mutter by water supply as otilised at siderably to instases the upset price the Sarray $1,309,428. The receipts of the preceding year the Government, and Barl Kimberley has present, and those who consider the subjsot Dapartment recommended. Representations were sclopted with reference to the Ordinances w
· The "A TORNAY-GENEBAL said the forti | laat.— amounted to $1,056,000, and thus lust year the expressed an opinion that that is the only are the favour of what is called the Chinese made to me on the enhject, but I did not feel adopted in another colony white it had buon gusation of order cannot arise except upon some amount collected was more than a gasiter of a suitable site for the goal. You are aware also proosss. There set, no doubt, in, this guiony justified in radavine the prive. But with re in force for years, one of the for colonies in thing before us. After the order bool has been million in stress of that of the proceding year, thut the work of establishing as observatory & other things paesity for good sanitation, spent to this particular fat I understand, in which it was secessary to prosted by legisla-gone through, with the permission of the Gov formed by the Clerk of Councils that the motion I shall refer later on to the question of the land Kowloon is. matter of great importance, and It is now sighted months ago sinna I called fast it is a matter of notoriety commented on lution in or of individual naturalisation, and nor banontable members buy be allowed to to will be referk was irregular and out of order voans, and of pressat I will only ask your on also probably know that the plans and all for information from the Sarvay Department as the public press, that though the apset price it was's form which, as His Excelladay as make reatarks upon ang subject. The honours and could not be placed on the order book, Tist. attention to a few of the atoms in sand of the mates for now water Police Station at Kowloon to the establismond of hath and was honses for was something like $3.000 a gentleman attended aware, hail ruled the assaut af Her Majesty's all newer rivall earrapins the remainder of was in aocordance with parliamentary procedcat. principal beads of revenue I find for instans, been laid before Her Majesty's Govern- the poor, and recently I have had manication at the safe and run the price up to $24,500. Government, and although there might be a the order book, so there will be no fuconvenience à action which, awing to its irrogalarity or taking the item of Stamp revenno, that the total (mak, An to the water supply scheme, bofors with the leading Chinese inhabitants of the Well, there can be no doubt whatever from sobed zie he did no think it would be at all pry: Hon, F. B. JORNSON-I may perhaps be al Council is a motion that cannot be entered in the sum polisted in 1831 amounted to $173,641. in I puboeded, sous mouths age, in Paking, I in- alsay on the subject, and the upshot is a sys all I understand, if that goatieman had ob per to attack nach a achednis.
in taking the other matförs fret, ele
deviation from order oculd not be put to the the proceding year it had reashed $127,623,structed.Me. Bensler to carry out what is known tim of private baths which now exists to some tained the lot for $4,500, it would not baso
His EXCELLENCY said that although it might lowed to say with reference to the observations: order book, nor, for very obvious ruvoes, can showing a tornace of $16,000. Lu looking the Tytan selema, e revenimented the extent for Chinase, for which twoity, dash are been for the purpose of eroting upon it not be necessary to aitaah, aacha sohedale he that fell from your Excellency when I first rose. any discussion upon that fuotion by indulged fu through the Stamp Returns; I find an increnge getting out of pass from England who were paif-list systems card be extended and nang rafinery. Messrs. Entforfeld and thought the informativa asked for might be intended no disrespect either to the chair or this or allowed. As regards the prooedants at home, Tudor great majority of items. Back notes in ospaldeufconducting tehnical workacsary for I believe the poor will be able before long to wire intoul to put upon it a sugar foluers given. oironlation, Lills of change, tank cheque, the carrying out of the scheme. I telegraphed avail themselves of bathe and weah-houses whore which I am disposed to think will be one of the
Council and I hope both your Excellency and the I will not refer to them; you are all familiar bills of lading, bottomey Imads, ebarter partie, for them, and in the montime a question has her the payment will be extremely inderate, that best sugar rotinoms in the whole world, or at all description might be given in the preamble.
The ACTING COLONIAL TE SABULER said the Council illuogolt meefthat. Thestanding order with what is taken plass: bat here, in this transfer of a baros, with onliony adhesive stamps, raised by a very minunt gentleman now in the is, beginsing at a scale of one or two dash. events to the British empire. When I was Go
a foosely drawnthatitis impossiblefor any hou.. anda largaiters for genroyanies and assignments, colony, Mr Chadwink, us to going back upon the These baths and Wash-houses, with a dorste veraor-in-Chief in the Windward Islands I had given
HOD. N CHOY said the go should curtainly member to know ezustly the mode in which has precedent to which way briefly refor. It was a case which caurred wome This, I need hardly tell you, is the largest re still inotuaxpensive sohome in untrast to the supply of warts woter, can be built without muoti an opportunity of seeing a very remarkable
business is provedod with and it was entirely years ago in which a similar cotice of motion Fondo over collected ander eer Stamp Ordinance to Tytan scheme, and be is about to rernet upon soat. You will require a certain aber of them, sugar refinery built at St. Lucia, whilst
· The Biĺle yere read a first bi uti
from inadvertence and want of knowledge that was given. Without catering fato datsile, I may I might also say that when we called apop is the mutier to Her Majesty' Government. As and then the plans are completed I will bave that time was supposed to be the best in
THE MANWAY HIGL
I rona, according to your Exgulloney's ruling, at say the notice of motion to which the hon, mem Colinetor of Stampai 1880 to estimate the wount to the water polisa station, that matter has busa ich pleasure la submitting them to you and Her Majesty's colonies, and it was my duty the Breelal Committes on the Tramasy Bill,
the wrong time,
bar refers, I see was in tha morning paper. Here which would ha oullected in 1981, be estimated delayed by a referenon, very properly made, to asking for the moderate vote that their cost to report to Her Majesty's Government upon presented the report of the Committes.
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it is, at fat length, I would renture to point itat $115,000, so that the ingress which acoured the Surveyor-General, who is now in London. will entail. Now I have told you the itam It. Having seen the plans and satiaintes of tire
Jon F. B. JOHNSON oakad, parsuant to notion, out that this, I prospice, us been sent to the that year was largely in erees of his anticipe: The plans of the Obsstory hayb been referred from the sale of crown lands, which resclad der anger, rofinery, with an asscant of the is high rogaires cosilomation. It has occurred to from the colony promise to the Council on the don't say out of order, but it is ané quite in Hon. E.R. BELLION-Thero is a small matter?" When the papers relative to Chinese unigration papers by the hon. mombor. Wall that is, I tions Now, there is one item is our revenue to smisert scientific anttorities in London, and in 1881, the sad of $305,650, I was not disponed machluers zweite way out, obtained from me, and I should fail in wg daty if I omitted to 23rd August last will be presented P which, aparpared with the two brevious years. am asiting justructions before beginning tlu to treat as a question of actual revenue. With Blake, prelay and Co., of Greenocks, I haro no mention it stated it stone Commalitas meetings,
accordance with the decorum of the Ceausil shows no change via :8905,0 frem the ouium work. The question of the Gaal is also before the reapest to that iim there has also been some besitation in esying we are about to have a sugar but was directed by my konourable friend the now lay upon the Labs, As you see they are in to the paper a paragraph beaded **Legisla
His EXCELLENCY-Godtlemos, the pure I It is not usual for an lion, member to send former. I had the satisfaction, of selling the Secretary of State, not listing book referred to expression of opinion in the solowy. I have seen refinery in Heegkoug that can compots with this chairman to bring it forward at thisassembly. We print Thay dre voluminons, and I will only gay tire Conncil and then give the raption be in spiam facus. few years ago at an increase of the Surreyer General, the question has arisen it stated, and I understand it has been pretty famous rafinery at Site Loote. This will opnsist of ace all aware that hitherto, whenever it has been tier consist, as Informed you at the last munting tonds moving. The fact is, as the Speaker of price from $102,000 to 8213,000. But at sne. as to the number of primary to be anoom-noeally whispered, that the rule of Crown lands a building nine strays high, that is, it will have found usossary to fimprove thoroughfares, the of Council they world, of the imperial Act of Par. the House of Cominees is entrusted with the time it was sadd that I had rather unduly forced nadatod. When last I sidressed you upon the outed in 1981 was really a speculative zale, that nise dera, it will be constructed to a great level of the roads has been raised at the dis- liament for the regulation of Chinose passenger delicate task of seding no notice appears shish up the price of the faros, and it was anticipated subject, I thought woshould provide accommoda- the Crowa zold lands for sus far higher than extent of iron on the most modern, systou and aration of the Surveyor-General. At the exazil ships, the Ordinace now in force, proclamansion Is ant of order, so the Governor is outrusted with that when most I should have to dispose of the au for 750, and upon that subject the question parchasors were entitled to pay, and that the land with the most fraproved maabinery. The total nation of this officer at a mesting ofthe Tramways nederuder them and other documents. The point the same day here and no who occupied farm, it would be sold at a smaller figure then has arisen as to how far it might not be desige o gold would not by sprited to practical pur. so which will be expanded on the undertaking Bill Committes it was elicited that in cartale which will no doubt interest the hon. gentleman this chair years ago, I think it was in 1558, the surront rato, and indent one of my cficmia pula to late the zeal on Stone Cutters Isinili pose, but was in reality lutanded toe spornis han coupleind will sol by far sbork. I believe, cases when roads happened to have been higharian and the other mothers more immediately is a found it necessary-fortcuately thoro ezg - men of great, ability wad a thorough made to uncommonate my 600 us 700, and a lock-tive parpeans, that is, for being sold from eas por of 8209,000 Now that is gentlemen, a de ailed the paroment of houses on sit her side, and when to the decision of Her Majesty's Goverment very few precedente of any motin of this knowledge of the flexy in a coinmaniet.up en this side of the harbans for 100 or 200. ante anther, un buildings being rested upan noscunt of what was done with the Crown lands it was so desired by the owners, the compounds with respect to contruct emigration. When kind, and it took us some time to discover tion he made in London to one of the That question is under the consideration the lots. You are well aware that ut us time is sold by me in 1831. There is nothing in of such hones were raised equally with the now the question was before Council you may fil ay aach notion had ever been braught gentlemen in the Colonial Ooo, expressed of Her Majesty's Caronment. Now, lasing the history of this colony such things opnarred; that narrative showing what I called land roads, but the Surveyor-freoncal told us that remember there was some little difference of forward before; it was discovered by the ~great apprehension with pest to the opisni mentioned Mr. Chadwick, who I ate happy and larga parobaste wore made many years ago speculli on the contrary, it shows that the compaction was demanded and avae was opician as to contract emigration. The ami Clark of Councils. It was a motion moving for farm, and expressed the apicien in a mono- to say is in the culony, and fe about to of Crown lande in certain portions of the colony commercial waste of the octony are been in granted. I say it in fortunate for the taxpayers gration slicer, an old and, most worthy oflear of apom where some member of council, or some on Fandom which was transmitted to me by the report to Hor Majaty's Guvurozacat upon which to this day have been and They crossing, that the nocoquity of providing more that no suck enestions have been raised of the colony, has, of late, stall events, reverted to else, bad addressed & letter to the Secretary of
landa,
the ordinary wooden poles. Amongst the other
His EXCELLENCY moved twfirst reading of.
Tho: ACTING Curse Justion, Chairman of
THE EVUCATION COMMISSKIN,
tion that at the meeting on the 29th August of a resolution I should more at to-day's maaling. Ria BXCELLENCY-F minst sell tus bon, inom- His EXCELLENCY-Bat in golut of fast the bar le order. Will the ban. member sit down?
Hon. P. B. JORNON-I beg your pardon, sir. His EreaLLENCY-The hon, member was in-