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ces may in the future change us. ait for the to develop le these things for-
It is 12 and I must go on the Hill and I cannot decide say we meet all as friends
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leave it for me to decide. It were to part altogether, but it can not sweet, and I do not wish it. Let us talk it out again, not write, for I cannot write any more. Mr. Wilkinson-I now hand you phí : Witness read-
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"You write suggested P-ush to come in if I may for a—shall walk down to the J's, for you at the window of your vera-—-—that or the old signal. H.V.D."
The old signal there is the same as that re- ferred to previously ?---Yes.
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Now with the exception of the one letter, which you stated was in Mrs. Carew's hand- writing, were all those other letters letters written by you to Mrs. Carew P-Yes.
You left for Kobe on Sunday, the 18th P-I did.
Were you anxious at that time for any one and if so, for whom I was of course feeling very anxious for Mrs. Carew.
On what grounds ?--I thought her home was not a safe one for Her. She had lead me to suppose that at any moment some violence would be done to her by her husband, and 1 was afraid for her.
When you were in Kobe did you receive any communications from Mrs. Carew ?—I received Bome letters and telegrams.
One telegram ?—No, twe.
What was in those Kobe letters-were they destroyed P-Yes. I could not possibly tell you what was in the letters, they were on ordinary subjects, general subjects.
Can you tell us the dates ?—All were written in that week. She wrote on Sunday, and I think she wrote on Monday-I am not sure of Monday—but she wrote on Tuesday, I think. Do you know the dates of the telegrams?— Yes, on Wednesday, the 21st Oct, Both tele- grams were received on the 21st.
You have an envelope, have you not, from Mrs. Carew ?—Yes.
How did it come that you had it ?-I used the envelope to put into a window to prevent it from rattling.
Do you remember the Regatta Day? Witness-It was on the 10th October. Mr. Wilkinson When did you see Mrs. Carew on that day.
Witness-I saw Mrs. Carew just before tiffin, and also at the boat-house.
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Mr. Wilkinson-The only question that I have now to put to witness is upon the subject of these telegrams. I have made an application to this Court for the production of the originals, but they have not been produced, and I wish to prove that they cannot be produced.
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Did you subsequently receive a letter from her about these letters Yes,
A long discussion ensued from which it ap peared that there were legal difficulties in the way, of procuring the copies of the telegrams from the Japanese authorities, but his Lord- ship made a suggestion as to an application that might be made for that purpose, and the point stood over.
Did you destroy that ?—Yes. Will you state as clearly as you can the sub- stance of it P-My recollection is not clear; but she first expressed regret as to their not being destroyed, and then hinted that they had not all been written to her.
Mr. Wilkinson said he would do so. (To wit- ness) These letters that you read to-day-what was your impression with regard to them-at the time of the inquest, did you know that they were in existence P--At the time of the inquest I did not know of their existence.
You stated to-day that they were all written by you are you quite positive on the point P- Yes, all the letters shown to me yesterday and to day were written by me to her.
What was your impression in regard to them? -I was under the impression that Mrs. Carew had burnt all my letters as she received them.
I think you said that the letters received in Kobe were not on anything particular P―On general topics. In one she incidentally men- tioned that her husband was ill-she did not lay particular stress on it.
Can your tax you memory in regard to the date? I received it on Wednesday.
Mr. Wilkinson-That is all I have to ask. In answer to His Lordship, Mr. Lowder said he would put the words of the telegram, of which so much had been heard, into the witness's mouth.
Mr. Lowder (to witness)—I suggest to you that the words of the telegram that you'received in Kobe were these ?"When do you return have sent Baelz most serious " ?—No, I do not think so they were not those words.
You told us this morning-
His Lordship-You understand, Mr. Lowder, that the examination-in-chief is suspended, the evidence of the telegrams is to be taken later.
Mr. Wilkinson-That is so, my Lord. Mr. Lowder-So I understand. (To witness) -Can you tell me what you think were the words of that telegram ?---" When do you re- turn Baelz says most serious "—or very serions, as far as I recollect.
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1891.MP. living in the he nearly died from from the effects of cidental overdose of arsenio, a
Mr. Lowder I do not wish to mention names, my Lord, but I was there not an intimate friend o who used to be called “the form Mrs. Carew?-I believe there was: I know there was.
He was so nicknamed by Mr. Carew himself I could not say that: it was their nickname for him.
He was on very intimate terms with cused, was he not?--I think so.
There was another gentleman called the "ic0- cream vendor" or the "organ-grinder?”--I know of the "organ-grinder.”-
He was also on very intimate terms with accused ?—Yes.
Your nickname was "the youth," not P-Mr. Carew used to call me “youth," not latterly.
Was it
The deceased allowed his wife the greatest latitude, I believe? Certainly, I can say he did.
I mean in the selection of her male friends?. Yes.
He was fond of sailing, she of riding? Yes. She generally rode with her male friends She often rode with them.
I think you testified on a former occasion that on the day of the funeral, you were stand- ing in Water-street, near the Club gates ?- Yes.
When did you receive that telegram ?-On the Wednesday afternoon, after the cricket match was finished, between 2 and 3 o'clock. There were some signs of the funeral You told us this morning that Mrs. Carew-about ?—Yes; there were some stands of flowers His Lordship-Just a moment, was this the being carried in and set up near the billiard first of the telegrams?—Yes; the first.
room.
Mr. Lowder You told us this morning that you advised Mrs. Carew to go to the post office for a letter bearing the address A.L.M.J.?—I said she asked my advice about going there.
Did she tell you that she had not obtained that letter P-Yes.
Did she tell you she had gone to get it at 'her husband's desire or at his request P-No.
Now the recommendation as to obtaining a divorce originated with yourself, did it not P— Yes, it originated with myself.
Was that advice given with an ultimate view of a marriage between yourself and Mrs. Carew? -No. It was given because I thought-I had been lead to believe by Mrs. Carew-that there was so much ill-treatment and cruelty at home that I believed that it was unsafe for her to live longer with him.
A marriage between you and herself was never alluded to in any shape or form ?-That
is so.
You are not a position to marry, even if you wished ?--No,
His Lordship-Pecuniarily?
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Mr. Lowder-No, it is one of the rules of the Bank P-It is understood to be a rule. No one under the rank of an accountant can marry without permission:
And that permission would only be given in case that you had sufficient provision to marry upon P-Yes, that permission would not be given if I had not sufficient means.
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Was that known to Mrs. Carew P-It is generally known. I have no recollection of specially telling her, but it is a thing generally known and probably it was known to her.
Had you any conversation with her on the. You said that you remember the regatta-day, subject of the burning of them or destruction of 16th October, do you remember seeing Mrs. them ?—No, not as to their destruction. I ex-Carew that day at the boat-louse ?—Yes. pressed my surprise to Mrs. Carew when they were produced.
Did you ever ask her if they were destroyed? Yes, the always said that she had destroyed them all
Zon were speaking of conversations P-Yes. While the correspondence was going on the said that she always destroyed them. I said to quest after some had been dis- nderstand that you have been my letters into the waste paper basket. said she had burnt all the compromising
Did she mention receiving a mysterious visitor that day ?—Yes.
Did she mention it to others ?-Not in my bearing.
Did she not mention it to her husband ?— No, not in my hearing.
After your return from Kobe, did you see her ?-Yes.
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And you saw a woman standing there ?—Yes, near the Water-street entrance of the Club. As a matter of fact, I was walking in Water. street and was near the gate.
Will you describe her appearance: how was she dressed P-I described her at the inquest, and my recollection will not serve me now, be side the fact that she was quietly dressed.
Mr. Lowder (in answer to his Lordship)—I will put the words into his mouth, if you wish.
His Lordship, however, read the description of the woman as given at the inquest by Mr. Dickinson, and afterwards was requested by counsel to make a note of it upon the record.
His Lordship-That description is correct? -That is correct.
The witness was then shown several letters which he identified as being in the handwriting of Mrs. Carew. They were letters addressed to her husband from Miyanoshita and were written in affectionate and cheerful terms.
Mr. Wilkinson-I have no re-examination. His Lordship-Can you tell me the hour you returned from Kobe?—I saw Mrs. Carew at 6 o'clock.
Is that the time you refer when you say she was dazed?—Yes.
Mr. Patterson (one of the jurymen) Your Honour, the witness has testified that he had serious quarrel with Mr. Carew in the year 1891, does he remember what it was about?
His Lordship canless) Do you remem
ber what was the
And what about? - Yes.
Yes.
Mr. Patterson-Had it reference to the wit- ness's relations with the accused ?
Witness-None, whatever,
Miss Christoffel was next examined and gave evidence as to receiving the scraps from Miss Jacob and stit She produord two additional she had found in hier box. she admitted writing the and addressed to a gentlema will you go down that hill to own suke: keep away from that call this the produce of a mady
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Shortly after her husband's death Pessay she Did her husband's death appear to have hun shocked her P-She appeared quite dazed at the time I saw her that was the day after the thi death.
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