Wall
StreetTM
Now York, Fob. 1.'
The stock market rosumed its rise in heavy trading today. It fell back moderate- ly yesterday after nine consecutive advances.
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The market was mixed and active at the opening, It moved a little higher around noon and continued to improve modestly to the close. Mont gains ranged from ut U.S. Steel,
19. and few cents to around $1 a share. Lukens, up 29, were standouts
among the stools. The micsilo
Akd nircraft Issues led to rise. They con Unged
rosperid to prospect defence spending und were further encouraged
the by successful Minuteman rocket project.
The steels,
of
to
greater
the U.9.
responding to n prediction of higher production, Joined the advance, along with chemlenta drugo electronics ond airliner,
It was another broad markel In which
crossed 1,289 Issucy the tape-only 14 under yester day' record, of these, advanced, 420 declined and 226 closed unchanged,
049
Standard and Poor'a 600 stock
index rore 12 cents to $61.90
below its cents only seven historic high set on Monday,
The Associated Press 80-stock udverage ros .00 to 335.30.
THE CHINA MAIL, THURSDAY, FEBRUARY 2, 1961.
LONDON HONGKONG
resumes LONDON
rise, heavy trading
Goodyear Tyre
Great Northern Hailway
| Gramman Aircraft
qui ou
Hammond Orgatt
Heyden Newport Corp.
ram Walker
Drab reports on ear cutput
Homeslake Mining Co. found miost of this stroup Human Retry. lower, General Motors, report- Idaho Power Ing lowest output for a January Imperial O shuce 1964, was off. Chrysler Basel 1. Ford was up
Closing prices
Abbi Pwr. Paper
Alums Steel Corp.
Allied Chemigala
Allied Mille The.
Am. Brake Shoe
Am Cable & Radio Corp.
American Cynald Co.
Am. & Foren. Power Am Gia & Begirlc Am. Hope Prod... Am. Mach & Fury, Am. Natural Gas American Smellug Am. Sugar Ref. American Tel & Th
American Toh
Anaconda Copper Armour
Asbestos Corp. itakiwin-Lims-Hanı Ballunore & Ohio
Bank of Monteral
Bank of Nova Scutla
Beech Life Savera
The Dow Jones 30 Industrials. were up 1.19 at 049.30.
Volume
c. Tel. Cu.
Imperial Tobacco intercheinlcst Corp.
Mesabi From
Sunshine Mining
4614 Swist & Co.
Texas Co.
36 Textron Inc.
Thiol Chem.
Woolworth K. W.)
ל
Chicago
grain market
STOCKS
STEADY
London, Feb. 1.
STOCK EXCHANGE
Our Own Correspondent
Uhis
Stocks stayed within a nar- Business done at the Hong-
raw range today as profit-
Stock Exchange kong Wall Street morning amounted to approxi- taking on yesterday prompted cau-|mately $4,495,000. Noon quota- Hon.
tions and the morning's transac- tions:
100.
fr
were dull. Oil priced by Shell, Lombard Ins 431;
after showing Wharf Co.
In gilt de securities, Inter- mediates and long-terms went! ahend while undated itsuca cased. Red Chinese and Greek bentis fell back in the forcimi sector and most dollar Blocks gave ground-UPI.
35
Closing prices
Consolidated—£43-1/10.
Conversion £47-13/10. Savings 1903/63–£3-17/32. Savings 1900/70-£77*4. Savinen 1903/18—£70-5/10.
WAT LOANEDA.
Overseas Honda
01708 201705
35 & 1700
10 2500 18
900 + 15
10000
5000 11,62
2000 M 11:00
ANSPORTATION
World's tanker
fleet
grows bigger
London, Feb. 1.
11.70 11.03 8000 1100 The world's tanker fleet grow by three million tons to 66.9 million tons in 1960, oven though heavy scrapping of uneconomic and obsolate tankers and convorsions to dry cargo vessels cut the pace of growth.
12000
3000 of 11.00
Dock
124 123
200 124
400 or 124
27.10 27.50
1000
17.13
600 e 37.20
100 27.20
Ch. Prov.
13C & 9.
Hotel
IK Land Ex. 14.
Yavinall
100 128
427 431 1000 4215
821 03
124
200 43
2000 or 8216 1000 823
900 ir 12
300 84 300016 100 & 311⁄2
6603
36
32
34
2010: Tide Water Ou
4
| Tradere ripance
Most
471k | Travelers ine... ........
Tri-Cant. Warrants
Industrial leaders recorded small gains, but some
SHAREA
Twentieth Century For Film
487
Issues classified as
American Ink Bank
Enyeza Satture 1703 1770
Bales
10 1783
38
Union Carbide
120x
favourites, declined.
20 1700
15
Union Dil of Cal.
409.
10 1770
Inland Steel Co.
00
United FruLL
2316
.-AP
34
United Can Corp,
347,
Int's Business Macaine
077
U.S. Cypaur
107
lncering
Steels, Inotom and en- equitites hardened.
Int'l Harvester
40
Us Line Co.
Textiles were firm but stores
30 # 1705
Internationa! Paper
34
Us Rubber
1+7
1560
lotl Tei & Tel ...
4796
US Smelting
$ 41
Jolins Manville Co.
Kaiser Industries
37
2014
Kennecoll Copper
114 8136
81% Warner Bros.
US Steel
A31.
pulled ahend
214
201
600 202
64
Westinghouse Air Brake Westinghouse Electric
2014
Kimberly Clark
85
122
Liggett & Myers Tub, Co.
Lily Tulip
110
4432
Western Union Tel. Co. West Va. Pulp & Paper Winn-Dixle Stores
some weakness..
473«xd? Gokt mining and copper
431
Lockheed Aircraft
29
10
Talkon Dock НК Сла
counters idled but fins
moved Wherlock higher. Teas and rubber were uneventful,
70374
190
Lorillard T
174
Towerstein & S01;5
10033
McDennalt J Ray
Fail
MeDannel Aircraft
174
Merek
Corp.
113
Monsanto Chemical Co.
Montecatini
5512
Montgomery Ward
4234
Motorcia Inc.
2710
National Biscuit Cou
7041
12
National Cash Reg. "A"
74
304%
National Dairy Prod.
National rad
THE
National Steel Corp.
New York Centcul
10
40
Nornida Mines Lid.
4115
Bell Telephone
401
Norfulk & Western Ry.
North Amer, Aviation
Bericfcial Finance
Northwest Airlines (Con)
19%
Bendix Aviation Corp
Denguet Coss.
Oklahoma Nat. Gas
Bel Airplane
ROY
Olin Mathieson
Oll Elevators
Borden (c) La,
Burraghi Al Machine
Owen-Illinois Class
Oxford Paper Co.
British Ain. Ou
wide gainers Wan Heitinti Columita Elec.
321
Penny J. C. Co,
ritish Columbia wr.
Penn. Salt Co.
Cal. Packing Corp.
44
Mlp Morris
Cana, BK, of Comm,
#1
Pitney Bowes
Procter & Gamble Co.
Campbell Soup Co.
001
Cace (J. 1.) Co.
1014
Portland Gen. Eire.
Publicker Industries
Cat. Tractor
30
Pulmon
Celanese Corp
21%
C. T. 7. Financial Corp.
Pure Oll
7544
Chase Mankat, bank
70%
7034
101-20
Heynolds Tobacco
Toyal Bank
of Canada
7412
Consolidated__ Paper
Conmurners Ga
172
Royal Dutch
Rheem Mfg.
Continental Can
Creole Pet........
Continental Oil of Del.
Scars. Roebuck & Co.
5412
9714
Shell Ou Co.....
Cuban Am. Buger
1724
Galeway Stores
un
Delaware & Hudson Co.
19%
saint Reg. Paper
Diamond Alkal
Schenley Ine.
Dirt!ller-SengrDIYIN
34EA
Scutt Paper
Domition Stores
Siegler Corp.
282
Douglas Alteraft
J314
Sinclair Qu
Dow Chemical ...
112
Smith, Kline & Yench'
Bocopy Mobil Ou
45x
5241
Dupont de Nemours
2016
South Puerta eo Sugar
18
Southern Co. (The)..................
40%
Eastman Kostale
111
Beuthern National Goo
Southern Pacific On,
44
First Hat, City Bank
Southern Railway (Com)
M
Sperry and
5016
Standard Brands
4431
Standard Oil of Cal.
Standard Olf of ind
Standard Oil of NJ,
50%
totalled 4.380.000
shares compared with 4,690,000 rhares traded yesterday. It was the 17th 4-trillion-plus la the 22 sessions so far this year.
Amoni
Inlaroid, up 73.
ACTIVE STOCKS
Of the 13 most netive stocke,
11 advanced, two declined and two were unchanged,
the
#econd
For
rg ression General Telephone & El curoaica was the most active Eleck, rising 1 to 29 o $3,000
spondi was chares, AVCO, up 15 at 15 on 81,800 shares. Third was Texas Gulf
23 14 at Sulphur, up
78,100 shares.
Up
Next came Fairchild Engine,
* at 8%, fund
American
Motorn, off at 17, after a decline roport
profits a
despite a sales rain.
Linked with the Minuteman project, Boeing, the Prime Con- tractor, rose, and
Thioko! 1%, both in very heavy trud Ing. Hercules Powder guined 14. AT & T backed away fur- ther fram 115 Intest
prak, losing 1
Cluett Peabody... Gotemba
Carbon Cu.
Comunereint Credit
Corning Glaas Works
Fastern Air Line
Family Finance Corp. Ferro Corp...
Georgin Paclie General Dynamic General Motors
Gen. Pub. Util. Gen. Tel, & Elec.
historienen, Tyre & Rubber
| Goodrich (B. F.) Co.
09
304
Hadio Corporation
Radio Corp. Pref.
HayWicon
Repubile Steel ...
2914 Steel Co. of Canada
91% | Stoep Rock
Stone & Webster
46
Chicago, Feb. 1.
futures Soybean
worked substantially higher to- day as short covoring and additional investment buy- ing increased in volume following the stoop do- clines of yesterday.
Wheat and ryè also showed a firmer
tendency in the early afternoon but the feed grains continued slightly easier.
Old crop soybeans which lost eight cents a bushel or more in the heavs selling of yesterday, recovered about four cents raldiay without pulling out any sign of another burst of 901, offerings.
2414
AL
Soybean oil and soybean meal, usually a guide for the posted
| soybean trade, had
moderate to good gains.
The rally
In soybeans had 229 boosted old crop months Bor 5714
| more a bushel at the finish. New
months crop
2 cents. March 2.00-80; wheat 4 to 1 cent a bushet higher, March 2.14; corn 1⁄4 to 7 lower, March 1.15-14%; oats lower to higher, March 061⁄4-3%; Rye 1% to 24 higher, March 1.211⁄4, — | 4
WHOLE RANGE OF STEELWORKS ENGINEERING AP
This vigorous group look to overseas buyers
(In his roving survey of British industry Alexander Thomson meets the production bask of Britain's biggest firm moking steelworks plant.)
By Alexander
Thomson
Stephen Baker is 34 and looks it.
Sheffield, Feb. 1. But when he speaks about his craft it is already with the authority of master.
ព
Baker's craft is heavy engineering of the finest kind. He is production director of Davy and United Engineering Co.,., Britain's biggest in making steelworks
plant.
He is dark haired and of medhim belght and has shot up the big business ladder in this steel city with astonishing speed since taking an MA degree at Cambridge.
sult of experience gained in this work we are now ahead of them in design. And also in front of the Americans."
But what of the future? Firms like Davy and United
widely experienced in blast furnace building than any firm in Europe.
By joining forces in a holding company called Davy Ashmore, the two sides wil cover the whole range
steelworks engineering.
or and have benefited hugely in growth as well as "know how from the £100 million a year Britain's steol Industry has been spending on expansion.
I met him here today wolted round Davy's works to see something of the production techniques under his control.
Jobs he has on hend include building two multi-million pound strip mills for Colvilles muxt Richard Thomos steel giants.
INTENSE CARE
In a machine shop that must be one of the best in Europe, great chunks of metal wore being trimmed and fashioned with Intense caro.
"There 14 Steel castings weighing up to amount to be
A
tremendour done overseas."
It export markets are where they the next big chances lle will be able to fight there at icast as hard as anyone.
EFFICIENCY
it is not too soon to wonder though what will happen when these monster schemes fall off.
Meantime, facts and figures How will the gap be filled? they gave me today demonstrato
I found Stephen Baker reas-
the group's efficiency and com- suring on this 100. Davy and petitive power, United's problem bo belleves will be one of too Ettle capacity combined sales
In the five years to 1980 Its increased two rather than too much,
and a half times from £14 mil- CHINA ALSO
lion to £33 million.
But
have profits
been rualitpiled very nearly by four. Sino 1055 they hayo risen from £1,000,000 to
£3,030,000. Another point I heard about "And if we can keep the | today progress of Davy's in- peace, China coull also become strumentation side in automatic a big market Oh yes there gauge controls for slip mills. wlit be plenty of opportunities." Americans, Canadians, Swiss But Davy group's thinking is and Japanese are now molding that oversene buyers will tend them under licence, Germana more and more to favour arms are considering doing so too. that enn provide package deals. Ruslans are displaying "con- That is to say those that can alderable Interest," Davy build complete steel planta lock Ashmore is to exhibit its in stook and blast furnace as itstruments at this year's Moscow were.
Folr.
120 tons and more were boing he said "Russians are interest- treated with ng close attoniioned in several projects. We have on if they were’parts of an ex- a man there talking to them pensive vratch.
now.
One grinding machine I saw nt work went a long way fur-
fastidious ther in Ma
dellency than a watchmaker's art.
It was giving a surface drish in which variation will be bo- tween three and four millionths of an inch.
"How competitive are we in your kind of engineering? kaked Stephen Baker, He was renssuring,
He told me: "In the last four years we have taken orders for Five plato mills from under the "poses of the Germans.
It was largely for this reason Under Mr Maurice Fictites, I gather that. Davy and Uniloc 33-year-oki manoying director merged with the Power Gus tempo in this group is clearl Corporation last year.
vigorous. And accent 13 бл **W* beat them on pricon Power Gas includes Ashmore | youth-London Express Bar- and delivery dates, de a re- | Benzon business which is more viço,
Film
company's earnings
New York, Feb. 1-- Universal Pictures Company. Inc. announces it earned $6,313,- 357 or $6.92 a
common share
in the year ended October 20, 1900-"the most successful ini the company's history,"
Universal Js controlled by Decca Records Inc.
In the previous Ascal year. Universal corned $1,031,005, or 95 cents a share, on operations, and $3,667,387 drom the sale of its studios. Earrings totalled $4,098,453, or $5.02 a cominos share. China Mail Special
1. German (Daw) - £993. * 3. Japanese, Amented--Lib015. Ísanks & Insurances
Barclays Urd-Bus 30. Chartered Bank-60s ba. Guardian Assurance--122, J. Hongkong Bank-88- Lloyds Bank—–738.
Lombard Banking Ord-IG 5d. Oni
British Petroleum-621- Burmah O!!—4[s. Royal Dutch-£139. Ultramar Company-30
Steels & Engineering
Babcock & Wilcox ora- Bruled Steel-009. Vickera Ord-200
Electric
Ace. Elec. Indi stries andis Gul.
Mus. Induiries-121 d. English Electric Ord-32 3 General Electric Ord-313 30.
Industriais
Od.
Assoc. Portland Cement~~733 98- Dunlop Rubber Ord-22 Unever OTD-137 0. Boardman, Marden Ord-5$ 23. Borax (oldings)19. Camera "E" Ŏnd- Fine Spinners Ord-90s 15%. Gitman folding#) Ord-3 d. Jaguar Cars Ord-Bis 20. Rediffusion Ord-409 öd. Standard-Triumph-=-103, Wiggins Trope Ord-33a JJ. Forestal Land -12, 114, Hundson's Bay £8}++ Westland Aucati—101,
Chemicals
Chemicals
Monkanto
Ord-23s
Imperial Chemical Ord-70s 415sl.
Faper Bowater Paper Ord-Esa. De La Ruu Ord-500 0.
Tobaccon British-Amer. Tob. Ord *Imperial Tobacco Ord÷701 75jd.
Miptors
Bit Motor Ord-15a 10d. Rolls-Royce Ord-444 bd Hawker Siddeley Ord-is 9.
Textiles
Calico Printers Ord—141⁄2 795d. Coats 19. P.) Ord-504, Courtaulds Ord-42 ch. Lancashire Colton Ord-GOS.
Stores
Hew
1 Tram
136 131 120 2200 @ 128 341% 34% 1000 24 3415
Ch. Licht. 28.70 20.00
Electric
Telephone
Telephone
(New) ...
ནིཾ སྐྱུ
000 342. 1000 20,00
30.20 6310 28.00 200 220
100 ir 25,00
$200 i 30%
30 31 10200 30
435 4394
1000 43
Britain held second place with 10.05 millon tons,
Big scrapping programmes by Liberia all fed the tanker major oil
thefeld with a total of 11.6 milion companies Gw British flag fleet grow by only, tons, although It had declined by 7,000 tons because about 757,000 345 000 tons in the last part of tona were broken, while under† 1960. the Greek Bag tanker tonnage expanded by 572,000 tons due to repatriations, mainly at the
xpense of Liberia.
Ship
Davies brokers
und Newman, in their analysis of the world tanker position, est- maled that about 2.8 million tons of new tankers were launched in the second half of 1000. In this period 1053 tan- kers of 1,356,000 tona scrapped. Eleven tankera of 169,000 tons, Sweden 108,000 Gold for tons and Japan,151,000 tons.—
310 of 30
300 or 1344
183,000 tons
100 43
conversion,
200 6 43%
2000@431%
GO 41%
24194
4.1. Cement 09 0912
100 001
Watson...
Dairy Farm 312 34
4315
3100
3414
500 3342
44
433 84415
500 445
3500 + 45
Allled Iny.
Textile
Nanyang Amal.
nub.
12.10 12,40
0.70
0.83 12000 24 6.00
2000 0.05
Rub, Trust
Realty
*****
GG3
Great Univereni Ord-524. Lyon ( "A" Ord-683x 2014. Marks & Spencer "A"
Ord-003
2009.03
9000
1.33 7.00 2000 4 7.53 000 # 7.35
20000 $ 0.90
5000 a 1.25
1000 65.00
1000 g 0.00
1000 0
1000 0,20
7% 7.00 0000 44 185 4000 e 7.60
ก 4.02.205 3000 1975
Humphreys 27:20 27,00
Craw."
Woolworth (r.W.) Ord-57a 7låd. ` Gilman
Miscellaneous
Bowmaker Ord-21a Tiąd. Canadian Pacific Ord-H Jongkorig & China Gas-15. Inde Chine Def. Ord,-24 1ijd. P. & D. Steat Hav. Def 10148.
Stoll Theatres-De Xijd.
Anes
De Beers Det-1 114. Petaling Tin-as Vyd. Rio Tinto (Beorer) ==R2+5/32. itoan Antelope Copper-8 d. Welkom Gold Miniv-10s 3d, Western Hokings-150% 71.
Rubbers & Teds Anglo Indonesia Plant, da Ich, Ceylon en Orch-27¤ Dr. Imperial Tea Ord-141, Kuala Lumpur-Kepong-33 4!&d. Lambak Rubber-15s.
-Reuter.
COMMODITY PRICES
RUBBER
BINGAPORE
Closing prices all in Straits certa per lb. f.o.b. Mainyanı ports:
No. I pale crOPE
per b.:
7736-7746
7832-70 77-7731
29.30
24.00
24.03
METALS
LONDON
Cloring prices, all in sterling
No. 1 Feb.
Nu. 1 Mar,
No. 7 Feb.
No. 3 Fab.
No. 4 Feb,
7036-70% 7461-7436
Spot rubber
per long ton.:
anket crepe
LONDON Closing prices
Tin
all in pence
Spot.... 3-month Copper
Spor
Jan/Mar.
23%-2121
3-monus
Apr./June
23-237
Lead
July/Rapt
7318-731
Spot
Nov./Dec.
#216-2216 Jan/Tob.
233-20 General markets, elf basla, porta;
23-3311 Mst.
3311-2214 Estate crepe thin Feb. 243
thick Fru, 23f
Ping
Spot
3-month
UPL
No. 1 spot. 3935-236 Bettlement house tem
COTTON
τιμισεις
Hugere Sellers
700
700
70016
21034
219
FOREIGN EXCHANGE
LONDON Closing raton:
2.7713.70
LIVERPOOL
Closing prices all fi peneó per New York,
Montreal Amsterdam Brune Copenhagen FTANRIUTE
Kabon
1b.:
American Contract
Mar. May
July
23.90
Det.
De
2830
Mixed Contrack
Milan
HEAT,
13.00
2020-8030
90301300016
13
Underwriters 12.10 HK & FE
Jan...... 20.70 Unior Whoa! Star Ferry Entertainment
Vibro
8000 2.03
10000 À 2.00
40000 @ 2.00
2000 3.02
w
30000 2,025 10000 2 220002.025 2000 2.00% 5000 @ 2.00 45000 2.023
500 à 21.30 1200 a 27.20 44 100644 13.40 0000 or 13,40 200 13,40 2000 13.30 3.075 10000 9.10 4000 3.00
JA
230
24
Agreed merchant
were
Norway was the third largest Lankor country with 9.83 miljon tona and the United States held" fourth place with 6.3
lon Lons.
Major Increases In tonnage in' the last six menths of 1860 were
273,000 tona, France" were Norway
New Fiumicino airport
opened in Rome
UPI.
Bulk cement Carrier :
Jat aga in air travel has The Laith firm of Henry
brought about a number
to
of changes existing facilities in a number of international airports of the world.
Our own Kai Tak airport with, its new runway that juls out into Kowloon Bay, is one.
Robb Ltd., rocantly launched my John Wil- con built to the order of Messrs Wilsons -(N.Z.). Portland Comont Limited, Auckland, New Zealand. The vessel ugo designed by Messry Sir J. H. Bils & Co.,
Another new cirport especial-unsulting naval architects, for caringe of 1,750 tons of ly designed to handle the stop-Portland cement in bulk. She ped up internationni air traffic will be equipped with the latest is the new Fiumicino airport mectranfeal incatis located
for loading self-discharging on the Fuller Kinyon Airelidë fluidising
22 mica from down-and lown Rome,
systen, supplied by Constantin According to Information re- (Engineers) Ltd., London.
ceived by Air-India's office The John Wilson has been in Hongkong, air passengers built to Lloyds highest class, travelling between downtown under their special survey for Romy and the new airport will hull and machinery. She is 208 spend some 50-minute enroule ft. 8 ins. long overall, kes a between the two points.
breadth moulded of 42 ft., a depth moulded to main deck of The new, Flumicino airport at 18 ft. 6 ing. and a draft lead- Rome has a separate terminated in 5. W on summer free- building for Italian domestic board of 10 ft. 9 ins.
and Internallonal services. The
two services buildings are 500
The accommodation is on most
New Zealand
metres apart from one another.odern lines and in compliance of the The building that handles inter- with the requirements
Marine Depart- national air traffic is considered ment, the New Zealand trade the airport's main terminal
union agreement, safe working building.
louds regulations and harbour airport officially' rekulations. This САМС Into use by Italinn
new
The machinery is capable of duty of supplying
domestic as wellt og international the double
1001.
International airlines
at
air services on January 23rd, electrical power for propelling the ship while at sea and also According to this report, the of supplying elettrical power for
building main terminal
the self-loading and self-dis- rates
Flumicino is "so large that all charging gear while in port. at
have consists of three tandem genera Canadian $ Maximum Seil- agreed that a minimum
con- tors of General Electric mani- timic Ing. 17-0/32; Minimum Buying, necting of 45 minutes facture cousted to three Belliss
would be |17-17/32 T.T.; 17-19/32 0.D.
Receasury for and Moream five cylinder diesel by one engines. The propeller is driven Swiss Francs, Maximum Sell- panzengers arriving Ing. 75.
carrier and leaving by another by General Electric double at this airport."
armature propulsion motor. The hugeness of the new air- All the engine room auxiliarles port and the distance between are electrically-driven and the the airport and downtown Rome deck nuxiliaries and cargo- have obliged airlines to gecypt handling equipment are also unaccompanied baggage for de electrically-driven.
The launching ceremony was performed by
J. M.
Exchange rates
Business was dote in the local unofficial exchange hiaritet morning at the following reder. US dollar (per 1)
Sterling notes (per £11
Australian notes (per
Indonesian Rupiah (per 100). Stom la per 100) Singapore (Sizkita)
5,02 15.81
Mru
parture Sights one day ahead of the aircraft's departure time, 12.08 If to be delivered at the air Rogerson, wife of the chairman 2.00 lines downtown offlees or at for Wilsons
20.21
(N.Z.) Portland least elx hours prior to depar Cement Limited:-LPS. 120 ture time if the baggage is de-
Ivered directly to the airport.
section of the new Fiumicino oirport, Rome.