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"THE CHINA MAIL SEPTEMBER 145, 1194189)
Woman's Evidence
(Continued from Page 1)
How? I trust. Kin Lee. They have kept an account. If I go
got a sub-contract from Kip Lee, there they will show it to me. 'for.. labour.
You said the last time that you know nothing of the Oriental Company? I Transportation said that.
You never heard of it?--I have heard of it, but I do not know anything about it.
Do you know Mr. Stokes Marsman's? No.
Chung÷Lee Firm
to
You trust Kin Lee then make out your account? Yes.
Where is, the $26,3767-I have received in cash to the extent of only over $10.000.
any
Where is this: $10,0007-1 made use of it to pay off people. Have you no account. in of banks?-No.
Where do you keep this $10,000 in cash?-From time to time 'paid off people and spent
on myself.
Where did you keep it? — in the house and some on my per-
Do you know anyone by the name of Ha-Shu Lam or Ha Sze Lam? Yes.
Man or woman?-A man. What do you know about him? He formerly was in the Chung Lee Company.
What is his correct name?-Ha Shu Lam.
How did
you come to
Ron.
When?" did you got the con- traat? About September last year. My cork can tell.
Who gave you the contract?— Kin Lee.
Who of Kin Lec? Kwong Wing. the manager.
we
What were the terms bf the contract? The terms were were to supply material except machinery, payment was per cubic yard.
How much? $2.00 per cubie Iyard-for the No. 1 orga..
Any idea how much
some
| celved?—Over $90,000,
you re-
Are you still doing the work?—
Yes.
The Profits
YA Spendthrift”
Have you reckoned -out how house much
on the profit you made Have you got it in the
contract?- have not reckoned now?--No.
at all?-A small up yet.
know
No cash amount.
a
him?-Sometime ago he had
sub-contract from Kin Lee.
What was the sub-contract?- For the removal of muck.
And he formed another firm after that? I know this man; he
is the Chung Lee firm.
And they transported from the tunnels?-Yes.
muck
How much?--Last night I paid off people.
How much have you now? small amount.
A
I want to know the figures.-- Not much.
Ten dollars?-Yes, I have some money on my person now.
How much capital have you left
On behalf of Kin Lee? Yes. in the firm?-None. Do you know Miss Tam Yuen-
Where is the $5,000 your father wan?--I have never heard of gave you?--I used this money in
the name.
So you don't know this lady?
No.
man know a Do you
by the No. name of Ho To?
This man, Ha Shu-lam, is he Still transporting nuck for Kin Lempo"
No.
No Books
When did he stop? - kaw.
I don't
muck #
Was he transporting when you were doing it? don't remember.
Do you know whether he is - He is not still doing it now? doing it now,
Where is the Chung Lee office?
I don't know.
Where is your office?
2. O'Brien Road.
No.
Witness continued that the pre- mises were occupied by the offices of two companies, the Wan Tung and Kwong Wing firms.
The Chairman: What staff have office? At your you got in present there is nobody in
the office. I go now and then in the evenings.
Who keeps yous books? have none.
I
You
of make no ontries money received from your hus. band? -I made no notes of payments received. According to your husband's books (Kin Lee). Kwong Wing for trans- had received $26,376
So far as I can porting work? remember the amount received was little over $10,000.
Still Owing
business.
the
But you were paid back by Kin Lee. You did not put back $5,00071 have not done so.
Why not?--I am a spentheift. 1 spend a lot of money. It is the truth then that there was no $5,000 at all and that the
with company was formed money? 11 is not so,
Suggestion Denied
no
to
The Chung Lee company start- ed to do work for Kin Lee in Sep
1940, and went on tember. January. 1941. Between October, 1940, and January. 1941, Kin Lee paid the firm $19,129 for transport ing muck. Then your firm suc- ceeded in getting the contract, and the Chung Lee disappeared from earth? I can't say for certain.
How much do you expect?— Not much.
How much? Several thou- sands.
$20,000? Not so much. $10,000-No, less, about $3,000 to $4,000.
Do you pay Kin Lee a commis- slon? No.
Quite sure?I cannot make much and cannot give commis- sions.
Can you give me in terms of porocntage what profit you hope to make? - 1 should say less than 10 per cent,
You say you did not pay com- | nilssion as you could not afford
it? Yes.
But does your firm give pre- sents?--Yes, small ones.
Whisky-We did give a pre- sent but what it was I cannot remember.
May 1 suggest whisky ant tabacco? Maybe.
To whom?-To Mr. Campbell What did you give hin? --Sever- bottles
of whiskey and several tins of tobacco.
Is he a friend of yours? No. not a friend, but it is the Chinese custom to giv epresents.
To whom?-To friends and re- latives.
The facts are here. No pay- ment was made since January to Chung Lee. You got the contract in February and in the space of nve months. was paid this huge sum of $26,376 for transport. suggest that this so-called com- pany was formed simply and sole-Yes.
for ly to do this transport work Kin Lee-It is not so.
1
And that your husband had aroeely overcharged Kin Lea for this work? They paid accord. Ing to the prices in the tender. Have you done this work before? -No.
Do you know the price for hir-I ing a lorry?-Some are between $200 and $300 a month.
That is what you paid?—I sub- let the contract to someone else.
Same Paper
books it is According to the
The position is this. You charg- - So far as I can re-
then $26,376? member it was between $13,000ed Kin Lee so much and
Yes. and $14,000.
Your company then did no work for Kim Lee?—Yes.
sub-let at a cheaper rate?
Perhaps you never received the money? I don't remember.
You
can't remember whether
Do you know Li Man-sing firm?
you received the money or not?This man, I have seen him.
I remember having received a little over $10,000.
You don't know what happen- ed to the other $16,000? - I am not yet fully paid. Some money is sull owing to me.
How much? Over $10,000.
this For
months what
After doing some amount? work I went for payment but received only a portion of the amount.
-
Rough Idea
How is it that your receipts on file are for $26,3707-In that case I cannot remember clearly
You would not give receipts if you had not received any
Do you know him?-1 greeted him when I saw. him.. Where did you
see him?1 sometimes meet him.casually.
Presents
But not to strangera? In what category did Mr. Campbell come in, a friend or relative?-As.the engineers and with Kin Lee-we sont presents to him. You sent presents to Kin Lee?
to Mr. Have you cver spoken Campbell? No, I
him at work.
saw
Ever been to his house?—No. Ever been to his offices--No, he has been in the office on the site.
He Who did he deal with? speaks English and you Chinese-
speak Malay.
What has that got to do with Mr. Campbell? He knows Malay. Then you spoke to him in Ma- lay?--Yes.
What was the conversation about?--About the work, etc.
Then when you say that you never spoko, to him this la not truo?- meant on no other affair but work.
Reason For Presents
Do you know the actual day you sent Mr. Campbell his present? On Chinese New Year Day, about February.
Did you send any other?—Yes, Do you not use the same office on the Dragon Festival in June... What was that?-Two bottles of with him?-No.
"I don't know" was witness's whiskey and some tins of ciga- raply when the Chairman point-rettes. ed out that the bill paper of the two firms was the same. Witness was then told she could
Do your propose to send him any more?--No.
Why not? The work is nearly
go but would be recalled when finished. necessary.
The presents were sent in con- The next witness called was nection with the work?-Not that, Ah Ting who, through a Shan- the work is finished. tung interpreter, said his name was Ting Hoi-cheung....:
Then the only reason why you sent present was because he was in The Chairman: You are also charge of the work? YCS known as Ah Ting? That is the name of my company.
When the work is finished you will not send him any more pre- When was it formed?-Over 10 sents? Yes.. that years ago.
Lime Juice Cordial. money? Certainly. I would not.
Passion Fruit.
Stone Ginger.
The receipts then show you received that amount? I cannot remember clearly.
You keep no books at all? - No.
How then can you tell how much Kim Leo là pwin? have a rough Idea,"
Is it not the truth that the company is your husband's and that this $20,376 went to him?
No, to me.
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Have you worked out your pro- When will you do so?After completing the contract.
When can you finish the work? -I don't know.
Kept In Cash
Can you tell how you
aro
Do you know a P.WD. man What do your company do?-called George Chang?-No. We are building contractors.
You do not know the foreman Atry partners? No. I am the at the work? --- Yes, I know him
as Chang but not as Georį sole proprietar.
What is the capital of the com-
pany?-Over $10,000,
Where is your office?—No. 209; Jaffe Road, second floor.
Contract Terms
"Not Worth A Present
Have you ever given him. genta? No, MEN
Why not? Why should 1, he is only a foreman,
It is not true that you are liv- So he was not worth a present? ing at the office in Jaffe Road?——Yes, '--
It is not true, we moved to Do you do any transport work? Nathan Road, about four months-No. .ago.
Do you know Kwong Wing's You know Lo Wing-hee?—I wife? I do. Inow her, she is my wife.
She used to live, next door to Do you know the Kin Leo you? Yes. firm?--I do,
Have you ever spoken to her? work for No. *** Did you do some
Why?-She is quite rich and I going to work out the profit if them? Yes, I did...
What work?-On A.R.P. tun-am poor and we do no talle to you keep no books at all? Yes,
"(Continued on Pago 12) - can work it out if given time. I nols.