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Needle H

“Hiring Plus”

Tunnel Committee

Witness added that the driving had been completed, and that de- clsions regarding the work in the tunnels were reached by, a week- ly Tuesday, meeting by the Tun-

Committee been nel

consisting part Wing-Commander Steele-Perkins, has Mr. Campbell, Mr. Bishop and

Mr. Poarce

range from 20-30 per cent. on In addition, equipment from

Mine and many items.".

the Government, on April 7, ex- machine-shop in Hunghom was. tended the existing working used in making blast curtains, agreement on the terms of cost plus 10 per cent, subject to calendar month's notice. of ter- the agreed that mination, and

Has 10 per cent. purchase of all new plant made charged?-They constitute by Marsman's on behalf of Gov- of the job and 10 per cent. ernment should be subject to plus been charted. 10 per cent.

So, the position again is Goy- What was this used for?-We ernment is hiring plant and pay- have at various times to carry out ing 10 per cent, for it? It is to

the advantage of Government.

tests.

These tests are paid for by Gov- ernment? No, we carry that out as the engineering part of the job. Apart from the plant af, Needle Hill and Hunghom, your own pro- perty is worth $9,500?--Yes, our own, personal property, for which we don't charge 10 per cent..

Rent For Plant Your own equipment on the job is worth $9,5007 Yes, but in ad- dition we hire some plant..which we in turn hire to Government,

What is the value of that?-- $25,600. At times more.

What was the highest it Wos that ever at? I can't give you figure now but I can supply it.

What is the monthly rent paid you by Government for hire of that plant?-About $800 in July.

And ip June?-$600. These figures must be approximate.

Approximate is good enough. What was it in May?--$750,

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Witness went on to say that,

April it was $900, March $900, February $650, January $800, December $400, November $400, October $450 and Septem bor $350,

ever

You hire an "air compressor from Kip Lee and you pay a monthly hire of how much? $260 for a full month but that is not now. on, the job.

at

The Chairman: And it is they who would decide on alterations, cler Yes.

The Wyndham tunnel shaft goes pretty far down? Some- thing over 30 feet.

The tunnel is in the stage of early construction?" Owing to various technical reasons the work was held up. you

pay

Anyway, whatever Kin Lee, you charge 10 per cent.?

Yes.

When the work was first start- ed was, timber or concrete used to hold it up? Timber entire -

Regarding the rental of the Hong Kong Mines plant, which 'ly. le valued at $65,000, what was the approximate monthly rental? Between $3,000 and $4,000. On which you also got 10 per cent.?-Yes.

So, according to this type of contract, It would not be in correct to say that the more the cost of hire of plant the more the firm would get? Yes.

Who Fixes ?

Can you tell me who fixed the amount of hire?-Are you refer- ring to the Hong Kong Mines?

Yes, if you like. It was fixed between ourselves and the P.W.D.

Who were for the P.W.D.? Mr. Campbell and Mr. Pearce,

Is there anything in writing? |_1 cannot remember.

Well, if there is anything in writing, will you please produce t? Now, regarding Kin Lee, who arranged it?-I don't know, presume it was arranged between The Chairman asked witness if ourselves and Mr. Campbell.

Slower The More

it was true that the slower work took the more money firm would get.

the

his

by

As far as you can recollect this compressor arrived on the Job through arrangements made Mr. Davidson objected to the Mr. Campbell?--Yes. question, but the objection was Who fixed the hire? overruled by the Chairman, who Campbell, Mr. Pearce and said: According to the Commis-Lee.

B

What amount of timber. has been used?

the end Up, to of July, $476,945.97. That is the total expenditure Yes. on timber in the tunnels?

Witness in answer to further questions said that originally it was planned to use. nothing but timber but later it was decided to change. The decision reached by the Tunnel Commit- tee.

"Small Amount"

was

The Chairman: Was any timber, replaced?

Yes.

How much? I can't give the figures, but a small amount was replaced.

What happened to the tim- ber? - Some was re-used. What happened to the damaged timber? It was used for lagging. Am I right in saying that it was sold as firewood by the P.W.D.?--- I cannot say.

Where did you buy the timber from?—I will have to supply- that information.

Yes, and the price paid too. Witness also. admitted that his Arm purchased, many, raitway Mr. sleepers but these were used for Kin lagging. Several people ар- prouched his firm to buy sleepers.

sion this question is most relevant. Who fixed the hire of your Chairman; Have you any idea plant?-Marsman in discussion when this whole job of tunnels with Messrs. Pearce and Camp- will be finished?-We have no bell.

more idea than when the job start-Į Have you anything in writing? ed. Two weeks after the job If you have anything in writing started Lt.-Gen. Norton sald ifas regards the fixing of hire of the job was not speeded up it your plant will you produce it? would have to be stopped.

HeYes. was very anxious for work to start on other sites.

Policy Clause

At the request of the Chair- man witness agreed to supply the names of those who, ap-

proached him and the price?

paid.

Witness was also requested to produce any written Instructions from the P.W.D. authorising him to sub-let work.

The Chairman: Who's doing the ventilation work in the tun-

HOW MANY WILL BE ABLE Mr. Carman: Mr. Olsen was nels? I can't answer that. TO FIND SHELTER ON THE 21 insured under a

policy under

Ventilation SITES COMPLETED SO FAR?which compensation is payable ABOUT 200,000.

Do you

should death or loss of limb oc- Witness suid that originally consider that if they cur within three months after the they had nothing to do with, the were all full they are in a suf-accident. Therefore, we did not ventilation work. He thought it ficiently advanced state to be able receive compensation from the strange when he heard that the to house these 200,000 people for insurance company.

contract had been let, without his 24 hours? Well, many of them The Chairman: in addition to frm being consulted.

learned cost are, some are not.

10 per cent. on the actual

Witness said that he of the work, you were supplied later the decision to let the con- free with the plant by Govern- tract was reached by the Tunnel ment to do the work? - Yes, Committee. Witness's firm was at Why not?-Ventilating shafts according to the contract.

present doing some ventilation may not have been completed in In addition you set 10 per cent, work having been So instructed Wit- on the cost of the plant? In fact, by the Tunnel Committee. How many of them have ven-you were supplied with the ness was requested to produce tilating fans worked by machin-plant to do the job?-We secured written instructions to this ery? I cannot give you the exact the plant, for which Government effect. number but I can find out.

paid us 10 per cent.

ali.

Ventilating Shafts

Have you commenced any new tunnel within the last two months?—I think so, in Aber deen,

Is that the only one?

not,

How many more?

It is

1

I feel it will be Indiscreet to mention it in public.

I want the numbers, not the location-Two of them.

When was work started? Two months ago for another de- partment, not the P.W.D.

· Plant Purchases At the last hearing. we were discussing the question of the plant which you have purchasca for the job. I think you promis- ed to find out more details about this plant. The plant purchased by us on behalf of Government amounted to $296,254.47 as of July 31.0

Can you supply the figures for August? Yes,

How much?

them.

have to get

Was 10 per cent, charged?

Yes,

SO GOVERNMENT PAID "10 PER CENT, ON THEIR OWN PROPERTY? WELL, WE PURCHASED IT FOR THEM. ".

Whose property is this? Government's.

So they paid 10 per cent, on their own

Yes, property? under the terms of the con- {tract.:

1

The Inquiry was adjourned to The Chairman: The nett re- | 3.15 p.m. sult la that Government hired you the plant to do the

Job,

and on top of that you get 10|

and,

you!

/ per cent. on the cost;

without that equipment could not do the job.. When Major Beckerleg came to Hong Kong from Manila did your firm pay the passage?” — Yes.

Belchers Tunnel Has that been paid by Gov- ernment?—Yes.

FORTRESS

PLANE'S BRUSH

Returning over, the

When was the work started on the tunnel at Belchers? I will have to supply that information. North Sea yesterday after Can you say offhand? Several successfully bombing Rot-

months ago.

Has the work been completed? terdam from

great

As far as the driving in con- height, one of Britain's cerned.

Ap an ordinary citizen giant American-built Fly- man of common sense do you ing Fortresses was pur-

think the tunnel Is fit for people

to stay in for 24 hours? Be sued by two enemy fight-

aldes the natural ventilation, 'it' may be necessary to drive In a few other shafts,

he captain of another British

Have the walls been lined yet? aircraft, who watched the pro- A-big-capacity needs no lining, ceedings, says that the angle of They may remain as they are? climb was so great that the vapour

Yes.

trails of both pursuers and pursued were like the trails of rockets. flashing up.

Aren't the railway tracks pull ed down?-You. Some

"And the work is still proceed- Ing? Yes, it was held up by military regulations but finally we were allowed to carry on.........

YOU KNOW THE SITE ON THE WYNDHAM STREET TUN, NEL? -- YES,

HAS IT BEEN COMPLETED?

NO

The Fortress steadily increas ed its speed and the Messerach- mitte gave up the chato when still 1,000. Feat

the high nying bomber fra A gunner in the Fortress felt a twinge of toothache owing to the steep rate of climb but otherwise Witness went on to say that

none of the crew suffered and no DO YOU KNOW WHEN IT damage was done to the aircraft. equipment to the value of $9,500

frm

STARTED? belonging to his.

was at WAS

SOME says the Air Ministry news ser-

vice-Reuter "present being used on the job: MONTHS AGO.'

Who supplied the money? - Government.

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