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THE CHINA MAIL, MARCH 27, 1941.
PRESIDENT LINER INCIDENT RAISED AT INQUIRY SESSION
A SERIES OF WITNESSES, CHINESE AND FOREIGN, GAVE EVIDENCE THIS MORNING AT THE RESUMED SITTING OF THE COMMIS- SION OF INQUIRY INTO THE IMMIGRATION OFFICE.
happened inside."
for
Mr. Forrest declared that, the last few minutes, he had been racking his brain to find an im- partial witness and asked who. ther, if he called Mr. Clague, of the Passenger Department of the American President Line, to give evidence to the contrary, would
his diagnosis that Mr. Forrest was in a terrific rage.
It was revealed that Mr. W. J. Keswick, chairman of the Shanghai Municipal Coun-Major Manners lose confidence in cil, was among those who registered com- plaints against the Department.
people
On resumption of the Immigra- ! "The last occasion was during tion Inquiry this morning Mr. J. the evacuation?"-"Yes." D. McClatchie, of the Hong Kong "The previous charges were to and Shanghai Banking Corpora- the effect that I had instructed tion, confirmed Mr. Kobza's state- the officer in charge of accommo- ment yesterday that when Mr. dation space to evacuate Kobza submitted an application who were not Europeans?""Not to open a banking account in the quite." name of "General Agent, Immi- gration Office," he advised him to style it "Kobza Art Studio Nu. 2 Account."
Two Letters
Maior Manners replied that he would not.
Woman's Complaint
The next witness was Mrs. Campbell, of Messrs. Jardine, Matheson and Company, Limited, who referred to a letter she wrote to the Hon. Mr. J. J. Paterson.
According to the letter. Mrs. Campbell early in December had occasion to make an enquiry at the Immigration Office regarding a permit for her houseboy, who was about to leave the Colony. She telephoned and was put on
Major Manners then produced two letters-one to Mr. Davis, Mr. E. A. von Kobza-Nagy told Director of Evacuation, and one to the Commission afterwards, with the Hon. Mr. J. J. Paterson-re-to a Chinese member of the staff reference to the statement yes-lating to the evacuation incident, who apparently did not under- terday that he was not prepared and remarked that the original stand a word of English. She then
Mr. Forrest to the asked for the. No. 1. to put up a cash security for the letter from
Pénin- General Agent, he was now pre-evacuation officer at the
Hotel was in his sula
(Major pared to do so and tendered a
Manners') possession. cheque for $3,000.
Major Manners stated that his Mr. Kobza. in reply Chairman, said he was not per-letter merely queried why "cer- tain things had been done and why mitted to disclose the person
certain things had not been done." whom he had approached.
Mr. Forrest pointed out that he was not commenting on the merits of the report but only wished to "recall that we have for a time been on bad terms."
to
the
Questioned by Mr. Forrest, Mr. Kobza sald he remembered an occasion when a dinner party was given by the agencies. He saw an invitation, but he was nut invited.
In reply to the Chairman, who asked whether criticisms which Later, he heard rumours of witness felt it his honest duty to what had been said at that din-make, constituted "bad terms,' her party. Some of the remarks | Mr. Forrest replied: "On my side, were injurious to him and the yes." General Agent. He informed
Mr. Forrest and consequently the
""Impression"
head of a certain agency was re- Mr. Forrest to Major Manners: quested to supply a report on "In the letter of February 10, the what had passed at the party. only incident of rudeness and dis- The report was produced and in courtesy you saw yourself was the it was mentioned the head of a instruction I gave my subordinate, certain agency, alleged ringleader What right had you to remark of an apparently ferocious attack that when I came on board I was
in on the General Agent.
At that time, added Mr. Kobza, this certain agent was not on the list of recognised agents, as evi- dence had been obtained of forged signatures attached to some 40 Deposit Receipts.
ari unpleasant humour?" "That was my impression."
"From what?" "From what I saw.
"My face?"-"Yes, you appear- ed to be a little unwell and very disturbed."
The next thing she heard over the telephone was "Hello, darling, other is that you darling" and endearing
Following remarks. this, she obtained a chance to put in a word enquiring about the necessary permit,
To this enquiry, she received a reply: "There is a postal service isn't there?"
"Most Likely"
Mrs. Campbell explained to this person that it would be practically useless to write in since it would take days to obtain the informa- tion she required. To this a re- ply was given, "Most likely. My desk is full of correspondence."
The person continued: "I do not like to be rung up. I am very busy."
Mrs. Campbell then said that judging by the endearing remarks you made "you appear to have a lot of time to waste."
The person then slammed down the receiver.
Vote Ledger
Yuen Tak-lau, next called, said he was formerly in the Import and Export Department and was accept transferred to the Immigration Office on November 18. He was on the clerical staff and in addi- tion to his work as a typist.he had to keep certain books.
In reply to Mr. Forrest, Major
· Major Manners Called Manners said he would
that Mr. Forrest was hard work-
that Major C. M. Manners, Secretary ed and
it had been re- and Manager of the Hong Kong ported to him that something had and Kowloon Wharf and Godown gone wrong. "I went on board to Company, Limited, stated that one find out what was wrong and to of his duties was to visit certain put it right." ships.
He visited the s.8. President Monroe on February 9 and în con- sequence of what he saw and felt,
Excited Women
He produced a ledger and said it was the vote ledger. An entry recording a vote was made under date of November 19, and this entry was made on November 20. He produced another book. This was supplied by the Treasury and the entries were made in January. He had transferred previous tran- sactions into this book.
Evidence In Rebuttal
Major Manners admitted he women he made a report to his head, the was not aware that two
a Greek Hon. Mr. J. J. Paterson, the fol--a Frenchwoman and lowing day.
-becarne very excited when they The report, in part, stated: "On were informed that they would arrival of the President Monroe.at not be allowed to land. the wharf, I went on board, As- "I did not see them," replied sistant Immigration Officer Bur- Major Manners to Mr.
A wooden box was also pro- lin was on board and soon after He added he would accept Mr.duced. Witness said that the box Mr. Forrest arrived, apparently in Forrest's statement that a sub- was used for keeping permits an unpleasant humour.
ordinate had reported that a when they were transferred from "large number of people were one section to another. It had a coming on board."
lock and key. He had seen the box used.
Major Manners added in the re- port that while he was standing there the company's shore captain, Mr. Thomas, shouted to his No. 1, to instruct the stevedores to come on board and to see that they pro- duce their identification. cards.
Comments Passed
Forrest.
A piece of green paper accom- panted the box but he did not know what it was for:
Mr. Forrest said that the vote
ledger Had been produced to re- but the evidence of the Accoun- tant-General that no Vote Ledger- was kept.
The Chairman reminded......” Mr. Forrest that he had said there had been no vote, and M. For rest replied that he was not aware
Mr. Forrest. It was my duty to ascertain whether these persons had any right to be on board. the ship. Did you take my words "chuck him overboard literally?" "No, simply that they were to be ordered to leave the ship, but it seemed to me that the method Shortly after the vestevedores of the order might create trouble." started work, Mr. Forrest ..came Major Manners said he asked up and asked his subordinate Mr. Thomas, whether the steve "What are these people doing?" dores had obtained permission to The official addressed replied that board the ship and the reply was they were stevedores, to which in the affirmative. Mr. Forrest of it at that time. Mr. Forrest replied "You go down was not present when this reply and if anyone has no proper was given; and Major Manners pass, chuck him overboard." The had o reason to believe that Mr. attitude of Mr. Forrest gave Ma- Forrest knew of it. He accepted Jor Manners the impression that that ars Immigration Officer would he was "mentally unbalanced." (have to keep off unauthorised per- and several other officers on sons, and had no reason to think the ship passed comments on that the words used by Mr. his manner. The report conclud Forrest would be literally carried ed that it was made so to pro- out." vent similar incidents and to im prove matters.
“Terrific Rage"
Two Days
Mr. Forrest then cross-examin ed Mr. Campbell.
Mr. Forrest: "Have you a bähk account?? Yes,
Mr. Forresti "I do not want to f'know who are your bankets but asstuming that you have an." Ac=" count with the Hong Kong, and Shanghai Bank) would, you ring up Sir Vandeleur Grayburn to
Mr. Forrestto: Majoay Man- In reply to Mr. Forrest, Major nere: "This is not the fratitime Manners said that Mr. Forrest was | make; inquiries?}' André, humskiwon omolat cunnies-- "li a terrifë rage and this made Mrs. Campbell: "When I ask santness between you and me?" your men and those round fathe❤ | ed” for the No. 12. I meant
(Continued on
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