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COLONY'S PROBLEMS.
PLANS FOR THE FUTURE.
SHELTER FOR BIG SHIPS?
FITZMAURICE REPORT DISCUSSED.
BUSINESS MEN'S VIEWS.
A Disappointing Document?
Department.
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addition to existing means of com The Secretary(Mr. D. K. Blair) to shipowners, jurk niid lighwerment will be abcorded."
The Chairman of the Shipping Star Ferry in relation to futuro M. F. Key) attended.
munication. The position of the and the Assistant Secretary (Mr. men, caused year by your through (This suggestion is at present
Sub-Committee devoted FOMA delays oosisequent mon typhoon tinder consideration by the Chamber
[ ferry; servicem was also in; doubt.
Harbour Development. weather and more especially the in connection with the question of attention to the question of cous. An intimation of the difficulties
zounications across the Harbour in which the Shipping Sub-Con the visitors, said that the question The Chairman, having welcomed fear of sumo, must be enormous, Plisey Prevention),"
He said, works to meet the inmittee found itself, through lack of and would greatly be minimised by wharf fabilities. I am windful of
creasing requirements of the ferries Information on the Government
|<f-Harbour-development-had-been- the fact that a great deal of the
In subsequent discussion atton-abould be designed with liberal policy in regard to several aspects the subject of careful consideration cargo goes direct into junks for tion was called to the possibility of consideration for the future, end of Harbour schemes, was conveyed by the Shipping Sub-Commitles but conveyance to Canton and other development at North Point, the should be such as to serve large to the Colonial Secretary (Hon. Mr. no decisione had been come to; nor riverine ports, but it could still be views of the Government being, ferrica, approaching in size those A. G. M. Fletcher, O.M.G.), and bad they yet been able to make a possible to carry out this method it was understood, that with the employed between San Francisco ho very kindly offered to attend and report to the General Committee. at the same time as discharging into private interests involved and the and Oakland-ferrice which cari explain fitily the schemes which the The whole matter was of such transit sheds. When it is consider congestion at West Paint, it was transport lorries and motor cars de Government ind under considecu magnitude and grave import to the et that some of the cargo, such as not possible further to develop the well as passengers. This is in tion and their relation, to one Colony in years to come that it was flour, is of an extremely delicate Harbour frontages there. Schienes sympathy with the views expressed another and to Town Planning felt that Harbour schemes could not As explained by the Colonial Secretary at a recent meeting of
bo considered piecemeal but must nature, very liable to daunge in were in contemplation at North in Parag. 82, 83 and 84 of the Schiones. the Legislative Council, action with regard to Sir Maurice Fitzmaurice's handling, and that such cargoes, in Point to accommodate chips draw report. The idea I have at present
be dealt with comprehensively, ns. "Wet Dock" for Typhooni. a whole Only a week ago a new Report on Hongkong Harbour Imovements has been postponed many cases, so landed at Kowloon, ing 30 feet of water and to provide it to provido ferry wharvos for pending the submission to Mr. John Duncan, A.M.I.C.E., Enginger reshipped into junk maid again out 3,000 feet of burthing accommoda-ferries along the following lines :- At a subsequent date, shortly idea was put forward by Captains in-Charge of Harbour Works, of curtain technical questions. The of junk and inte godown, the newestion, with vertical wharves. This The passengers forry vessels on after the severe typhoon of August Davison and Robinson, which, at chief of these is the possibility of adapting the design of any workssity for some ampler and mare scheine would extend from North the Hongkong-Kowloon service will 18th, & scheme was put before the fire sight, looked decidedly attrac- undertaken on the lines auggested by Sir Muurica Titzmaurice in soch a way as to provide a wet dock in which large vessels may lie and baconomical arrangement becomes Point to the Suger Refinery at Booner or later have to be increased Chamber by Captain W. Davison;tive and differed entirely from the in size to meet the requirements Marine Superintendent of the Hunghom scheme. There had not protected during typhoons. The following is an account of the Paru. 30 of the report."
It was then decided to ask the necessitated by the increasing C.P.8., and Captain S. Robinson, yet been an opportunity for dis discussions which have taken place in the Chamber of Commerce with
Government to let the Committee Population on the Kowloon ride, Commander of the R.M.S.cussing it. "P A "Tottering Disgrace. regard to Harbour Schemes:
consider in connection with Sir and it is alen certain that rapid and Empress of Australia," whereby So far as their deliberations had continued:Maurice Fitzmaurice'a Report any efficient means of transporting a large wet dock could be con taken them, the Shipping Sub- Mr. Sutherland The Hongkong Government in a arrange an elevated milway, con- "I have for some time past heen other Harbor Improvement motor vehicles between the Island structed, in which it was claimed Committee, favoured facilities being lotter, dated the 23rd May, 10g3, veyors, and tips for coal, are, and considering putting forward a pro- schemes which the Government had and Pertineula will have to bo faced. ships could lie alongside the extended at West Point, where the
posal in connection with improved in view, As a consequence, tho
The type of ferries suitablo harves in safety in typhoon wea most pressing demand oxisted, and invited the Hongkong General other bulk cargo." Chamber of Commerce to consideri "As regards imports for the control of that vast võlane of trude Government placed an immense would be equal ended vessels of ther
considered development at North Captain Davison contested Bir Point could wait on this. Greater some years between Hongkong and the Canton, mass of documents at the disposal about 150 feet long by 40 foot beam, the report. of Messrs. Cole, Fitz-interior, which for
namely, the Chinese of the Committee, after which fur and driven by steam or possibly Maurice Fitzmaurice's statement facilities for ocean vesels were maurice, Wilson & Mitchell un might be mostly constructional Delta,
motors and having a speed to give that "whatever works may be con-needed at Kowloon, but opinion I understand ther moetings were held. Hongkong Harbour Improvements, naterial, these can be dismissed in passenger train.
an eight to ten minutes' service.structed, ships must get into the was divergent on the necessity for Mr. Edkin's Viewa. In preliminary discussions in the few words inasmuch as what we that.. song years ago when the
Instead of the present system of side open away from wharves during starting an extensive scherne such General Committee, it was reumark should aim for is discharge direct Piracy Ordinance was under dis-
At one of these, the Chairman of berthing they should Berth end on typhoons, and Captain Robinson as the Hungbom one at this present ed that Sir Maurice Fitzmaurice's from the steamer into track or, if cussion out in the the next the Shipping Sub-Committee (Mr. in an entrance of the same form as urged that experience duting the time.
was mooted, exist- report dealt nuinly with the develop.necessary, transit sheds, for con-
memorandum from of the San Francisco type of dock the vessels wing, the port, made it generally accepted that provision With regard to ferries, it was mout of Hungbom Bay with a view veyance into China. In passing, ing difficulties nothing no of it. Bdkins) contributed an the vessel, somewhat on the system syphoon, and the maco during the
The following suggestion, however, interesting to future developments of the Har. I would say that if the development make with the utmost reserve, which the following extracts are at Market Street Ferry. It is not extremely deanblo that there should be made for vehicular traffic bour and made no proposals for of
anticipated tually
suggested that the Government should be same place where such and for much larger forries than knowing full well that it calls for
"I think it well to record, at the should have anything to do with vessels could discharge and land were at present running; also that improving the facilities of the port eventuales, the doubling of the
very careful consideration und may in such an important trade centre present single track of railway to be probibitive for reasons unknown outset, just as a reminder, that the the ferries, but that the wharf their cargoes without the risk of, there was much to be suid for munk as West Point,
Canton, would doubtless become to me. That, however, it would be wharf and godown business-as also should provide for such a ferry. having to move from their berths ing a landing for such vehicular The subject was referred to the imperative, but this undertaking of inestimable advantage to the even the ferry business have been "On the lower deck accommoda-in case of typhoons. In brief, the traffic at Kowloon Point instead of, Shipping Sub Committee which involving na it would the widening Colony as a whole I feel fully con- built up and developed in Hong- tion provided for 13 to 16 motor two Captains proposed that a pro- or in addition to, the Government held a number of protracted discus-of Beacon Hill Tunnel does not hident. In short, it is a proposal kong purely by private enterprise vehicles (paseenger, truck or ambul-jecting arra with wharves and a proposals at Jordan Road The sions in which they had the assist call for serious consideration in a ance, at various times, of the vast scheme such as that now for centralising the native preseuger; arching in line with the growth ance) with a barricade on each side, railway track upon it be conalrucked ¦ typá af jetties provided for ferries business of river steamer-now of the shipping business of the and the remaining space on this from a point near the eastern should make liberal allowance for
attore indiscriminately along tho Colony. No one can gainsay but deck would carry about 250 pas entrance Harbour Master, Commander Beck before us.”*
to the Mongkoktsui the future. that that hns been dono sengers when the full complement typhoon refuge to a point west of with, and Mr. A. Anderson, one vi
West End of the Prays. I do not
efficiently.
A stage, however, has of cars were carried, with an in- Kowloon Point, thus enclosing the the Government should not attempt There was a strong opinion that the engineers of the Public Works Mr. Sutherland expressed the know whether you have over had a
pinion that to cope with develop hind's eye view of the praya in the been reached when there is a lirait creased number accordingly when Naval Camber and the wharves of At the first meeting of the Sub-ments such as he hail indiested vininity of West Point and Kennedy to the amount of deep water fewer cars carried. The upper deck the Hongkong and Kowloon Wharf to undertake the administration of
about and Godown Co., Ltd,
a whart business, and that they. Committee, Mr. R. Sutherland there was no other portion of the Town, when it is deserted by frontage available, and the Govern-would accommodate
should confine themselves to the contributed an interesting paper in Harbour where the suggested works steamers, and native craft which met this in the man, houd in of covered in space for bad we broukwater near the l'alice Pio at construction of the quay, walls which ha discussed the Consulting could be more effectively situated. are in typhoon anchorage. If so that this, in main, for wea: Kowloon Point would project, weat
ward to meet the end of the pro-
and/or piers. Engineers' Report. He took the He also devoted some attention to you will perhaps agree that the future be controlled by Government ther."
North Point, Mr. Edkins composed works, thus providing a war- A new question which might Vicy shat, in some ways, the report the probable future of Kowloon antiquated and dilapidated struc- and not further devoted to private
There is fauch to be gidered, would probably develop in row entrance to a large enclosed arise, but which had not yet been a disappointing document, Point, having regard to the neces Harhour at all angles, which are said for this view, but in
tures jutting out irregularly into the enterprise.
any course of time into a district with aren. Captain Davison claimed for before the Shipping Sub-Com inasmuch as, while 54 of the parasity of linking up the premises of graphy were contined to one parti- the Hongkong and Kowloon Wharf called wharves, are a standing or development of this policy I think business enterprises and storage his suggestion that it would only mitteo, was that of a typhoon refuge lottering might suit the case it would be the decided view of this godowns, but the passage of some require a constructional length of at Shankiwan, on account of the cular schemic of jetties with railway and Godown Co. with the new better, disgrace to a Colony winch is Chamber that private enterpriss years was likely before it would 6,000 ft. as compared with 7,400 ft. growth of the shipping and papulo- connections, the important question wharves and the Railway Station. regarded as one of the first shipping should be interfered with as little as become a busy commercial, section at Hunghom: dredging to a depth tion in that neighbourhood, and its of the general improvement of the It seemed probable that this por centres of the world."
possible, on the grounds of equity comparable to the West Point trad of 7 ft, as compared with 18) it. distance from Causeway Bay and Harbour received somewhat scanty tion of the peninguts would be
and on the grounds of efficiency, ing centre. North Paint will only at Hunghem; and an estimated cost Mongkoktsui. The toll during the attention. However, he had learned entirely given over to milway con Passenger Depot Suggested.. private enterpriss having cusured be used when it is cheaper to work of £2,638,000 compared with recent typhoon (August 18th) was on enquiry that this was only part of nections and this night tuil The following suggestion there efficiency by the operation of the there than at West Point, including £8,316,000. He also claimed that very marked there, and apparently a very big scheme for the improve re-arrangement of the present rail-fore will help in a long wanted principles af profit and loss by cast of transport of goods to the it would provide for a ships: (550 always would be when winds reach- ment of the Harbour scheine in way and possibly removal of the scheme improvement, but in which it is governed
places where they are required. It ft.) as compared. with 14 chips at ing typhoon force came from an which the Town Planning proposals was andernly re, to present achition of proved at buy or do ace think the fine has would be en auxiliary or supple-Hunghom, and this would not in Easterly direction. were merged.
The question, Mr. Sutherland terminus buildings being used as a possible to generally modernize the como for any Government alsore- ment to West Point but will not clude the accommodation already It was alea felt that there wAS
West End of the Harbour in the tion of the private enterprices in replace it.
provided at the Godown Co.'s need for improvement of the Mong- auggested, was whether the Govern-goods station.
Looking to the future there seem-wharves. From the point of view kokteui shelter by the erection of This also involved the question of way of facilities for handling cargo. question; but I do think the time. mont should be recommended the ferry service and he understood It is found from particulars given, is ripe for the Government to od no objection, if funds were avail- of typhicon shelter, be claimed that, some breakwater to protect it from start almost inmediately developing it was the intention of the Govern- that some thirty river steamers develop the remainder of Harbour able, to building the necessary apart from the ships at the Godown the South-west, and that the quee where existing trade demands, or whether they should be advised to ment to consider establishing a leave and arrive in the course of frontages and jetties on a sole that wall to provide for steamers going Co.'s wharves, his proposal would ton of the allocation of moorings prepare and cinbark upon a scheme, goods and vehicle ferry from Hong the day. When it is considered that will provide liberally for future alongside: bat harves at this part protect: 14 ships besides launches should be dealt with, to avoid, na not only for present day require. kong to a terminus in the vicinity each of these steamers on arrival extension of the Uglony's shipping. were not likely to be used by and lighters, whereas the Hunghom far as practicable, the heavier moor- Land departure at all hours, have to In this development my idea is that steamers until transit sleds were scheme would provide no shelter ings being taken up by the smaller monta bat for posterity. It must be Melion was made.", continued, be examined by the Police and the Government should care for the erected or new enterprises bad from typhoons. Railway connec vessels when required by big linera, taken for granted that the railway then a recent meet. Exercise Officers, as well as by quay walle and leave the surface sprung up in the neigbourhood. It tions, he submitted, were about This was generally the position all its proposed connecting lines,ng of the General Committee, that various detectives on the look-out development, such as transit sheds would not be advisable to build the equal, ond, as regards current and reached at this present time, and the between Canton and Hankow, with would eventually be completed and the Harbour raport did not touch for bad charactors, the difficulties and godowns, to private enterprise, transit sheds until the requirement wind, a basin at Yaumati would meeting would be glad now to hear the general opening up of China upon any improvements in the of the Government in supervising I think that, for the present, the is pressing.
The Shipping Sub-Committee which would be received with the which would follow must be vicinity of West Point, or in fact, the passenger traffic are well under- same principle may apply to ferries. Mr. Edling also devoted some have market advantages. the views of the Government, visualised. "Hongkong," said Mr. on the Hongkong side at all, and stood, and my idea is that on a provided those interested put into attention to the possibilities, of were strongly impressed with the greatest interest."
it was considered strange that this portion of the Praya offering the the service the type of vessels re overcoming by mutual arrangement Sutherland, instead of being a mers resting place for cargo in should be so in view of the volume least number of difticulties both quired by the public with the between the Government end the portance of these suggestions for Colonial Secretary's Statement.
owners of marine late the difficulty providing safe anchorage in the
said that the Government cozcurred transit between Canton and other of business at the West End of the from the financial and an engineer growth of the traffic.
Colony, This aspect of the quen ing point of view, a large native "Efficient organisations and of economical development at West Harbour during typhoon weather
The Chairman (Mr. D. G..M.Mem way of the utmost importanca connection with the This could be done by building out attending to all these things and to attempt to provide at West Point in the General Committee. for all products emanating from an alternative suggestions of merely into the Harbour on concrete piles, ne unfulfilled need in evident in that for large ocean-going stench Bernard) said that the whale questo de will piecenced but le-a
the Colony and that it should not ures betweon here and a line of meeting the present essential needs and at such depot, each and every particular."
tion of Harbour Improvements was of trade pending eigns of anticipated river slewer would be obliged to Dealing with the repert of the the arrangements for coasting and such a large one that he felt inclined whole. That was the definite policy the Yangtaze Valley. On these development in China,
arrive and leave. The depot would. Consulting Engineers, Mr. Edkins river steamer traffic; also, the junk. lines we will have to remember that
be enclosed on the land side by high thought that the scheme for a anchonge, which is necessarily to suggest for the consideration of of the Government on this question. The necessity for bringing the Hongkong will undoubtedly be the West Point's Claims' ruilinge, and be only accesible Reclamation and Jetties at Hung required to be in a central position. the Committee that the Govern shipping port for the products of the
The fact that practically no dia: through gates, on the water eide a homt eeemed to be que for adoption The smaller steamers and junks had ment be asked to appoint a Com-port up-to-date must have been Southern Provinces, particularly, charging facilities commensurato prohibitive area would be buoyed and gradual development. Every a greater call than other interests so ta canadder the whole sub- borne in upon every one very ject. Discussions had been pro-strongly in connection with the Kweichow, Hunan and Kiangsi, with the bulk of the trade exist in and patrolled. The depot would effort should be made in the develop on the frontage at West Point. ceeding for months on the question Strike of 1929, which had also from which large quantities of bulk the vicinity of West Point, has very contain searching and waiting went of the new berthing piera to Kennedy Town Reclamation of Typhoon Warnings without any illustrated the disadvantages of cargo should find their way to the frequently bean the subject of com-rooms, latrines, allices for the ink them up with existing wharf At this meeting the Shipping progress being made and perhaps being at the mercy of cheap, un Hongkong terminus. Already such ment, and now that the Gove-Police and Excise, and all the organisations in order to occure Salt-Committee heard for the first this, and the question of Wireless skilled Inbour. It was essential, in consignments. in considerablement is considering the develop-arrangements usually necessary for maximum economy of transport to time of a scherne for a Reclamation Telegraphy might also form part of the view of the Government, that volume ate transported through the ment and improvement of thing the extensive traffic which existing storage godowns, also to at Kennedy Town, beyond the pre- the reference to a Commission. Hongkong should give up as far as Tungting Lake to Hankow or Harbour gonemilly, the Commit only arrive in the Colony encounge the renting of now piers sent tramway return loop. This What the Government policy was it could its dependence on that kind Wuchaug, and thence by steamer or might well devote some attent ugh that channel. When I say on completion
scheme, provided for reinforced cod in regard to Harbour Improve of labour and have recourse to lighters, down the angleze to to this particular vicinity, Broad pudly arrive" I quite appreciate
crete wharves with space for menta, he confessed, his did not up-to-date mechanical means such Renti and Changes Shanghai for shipment to foreign speaking, the trade at the west of that passengers cau land from junks
godowns and transit sheds beyond know,
as were employed in New York parta
the Harbour is principally confined anywhere they like, but, to my "It should be ascertained, if the quay and, behind that, an ares The Hon. Mr. A. G.. Stephen where, some years ago, matters to rice, Lour and sugar. These mind, this scheme would be of possible, what companies interested suitable for similar development suggested that it would be advan- were in very much tho mime pom- arrive in whole or part cargoes) and tasterial benefit and would go will rant piers un completion. Fail The godown space was ocloured red tageous to meet Mr. Fletcher first, tion as in Hongkong to day with *We must therefore unke ample it seems to me that a great deal of long way to combat smuggling ing the rental of new piers by the on the plan and provided for a depth in accordance with the suggestion piers jitting ont ut every angle. provision in Hongkong for the unnecessary handling with its piracy, the landing of arms and pathe, it may be necessary for the of ninety feet: the area behind this, which had been conveyed to the New York had now reorganized its handling of bulk cargo direct from attendant expense would be saved if ammunition, banisheen, etc., on Government to erect transit shods colored green, had a similar depth. Chamber, and if necessary, after port and had introduced are track to steamer, and this very it were posible for vessels not account of which the Colony is now on its own account in order to The southern boundary of the that ask for the uppentment of a transit godowns on important point does not appear to only coasters but ocean-going experiencing a very serious crune assure their boing used. In the scheme was the mesont Victoris Commission, quant have been bufficiently considered in ateamers to discharge on the wave. With the development, such event of Government transit sheds Road. The plan provided for joint meeting of the General the report now before us. When I Hongkong site ng well de at: Kew as we are contemplating, it seems being instituted, it will be becessary vessels to be berthed Elongation Committed, and the Shipping Sub- mention bulk cargoes I lum consider-lo. To look ahead for instance, to me there is no reason why the to consider how long goods would "The depth of water wits shown as Committee was held Recordingly ing poemble kreat developments in even steamons from home, bringing, bhly orld butrages may not keep be allowed to remain therein and varying from 3dft, to 2716. on September 4th- and "the pro- provision" the expart of autimony are, boat, say complete consigaments of abreast of the increase in popula at what charges. It would be pre- It was considered that this readings occupied nearly three with transit sessa seed, peas, hocns, oopper, machinery might easily be stowed tion, unless preventative schemes fee to leave the erection of scheme would malte unnecess bours tin, lead are, manganeso, wood oil, for discharge at Victoria and wich is I have very crudely cutlined transit, sheds to private enterprise, the atc.. The most important of these, “*Kowloon landing on this side, are put into fores, I think I am such sheds to be erected socording | Harbo perhaps, would be coal and ore, and What is destined here, and shifting correct in saying the police would to plans approved by the Govern, which had it would seem more than probable to Kowloon to dumpleto discharge, welcome the scheme, and consider mant
of Jordan Road.
The Hon. Mr. A. G. M. Fletcher
ports of the world, will be the great tion may with advantage be touched passenger depót be established. equipment exist in the Colony: for Point. It did not seem practicablend a further discussion took place in the view that the Harbour-pro-
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