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domestic tenement,'
The Hon. Mr. Pollock moved the second amendment of which he had given notice.
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cretion of the Council to adopt this lief that have influenced the OM- amentiment if they wish. I desire cial members when I have not, I once mors to emphasize that I hope beg to remediate the suggestion this Ordinance is about to come to nost heartily. I consider that the Quite recently a number of per- an end, at the end of twelve months Official members have the right to sons have approached me on this from now, and I think it is a mistake express their opinion and to hold subject of a European reservation, to tinker with a temporary Ordin-the opinions they express, Unless but there has always been the ance and thus lead people to be they are directly instructed by me objection that while they are will lieve it is more likely to be renew that a measure is a Government ing to rent they are not prepared ed than is the case. The second one which they must support, they to build, for the reason that when reason is that I feel however are free to vote in accordance with leaving the Colony they will not reasonable it may be-the adoption their own convictions. I must con- find an open market. In converse of the clause may tend to prevent fess, Mr. Pollock, that I amazed tion with a well-known resident re people reconstructing in cases that you should suggest that I
desir should be responsible for a man cently, Ireminded him of the story where it is manifestly of Abraham when the Angel an able reconstruction should take oeuvre.as you have defined it.
The Hon. Mr. Pollock: All I nounced to him the intended place. When a man is just waver destruction of Sodom. Abrahaming on the point whether he shall wished to say was that putting it pleaded for the city, saying for thall not destroy insanitary to the vote of the Officials after Peradventure ten just persons premises really insanitary mean, your Excelleney has expressed will be found," and the Angel and he may be determined not to do yourself strongly in a certain direc swered, "I will not destroy the so by this clause. He will not tion, is not really leaving it to the City If ten just personscan be found, submit all his plans to the con-unfettered decision of the Council. H.E. the Goverhor: Council will And I said: "Find me tenor, Isideration of two bodies, The division of a domestic-tenemcat.] will reduce it, Find me five who Building Authority is a very hard proceed with the discussion of the It makes the lessor liable to a pen-will build houses in this reservation worked department and unques-Ordinance." alty for demanding or receiving and I am sure the Government will tionably requires a little time to more than his due under this Ormeet them more than half way" examine plans. The suggested The Hon. Mr. Pollock mentioned, diriance.
He went out and has not returned. Committee might be another bosly After Hon. Mr. Kotewall had Now, there is no racial question of busy men and the time devoted an amendment, to Clause 7 sug- spoken in support of the amend in all this. We are prepared to to the examination of plans would gested by the Tenants' Associa ment, the Colonial Secretary make a similar proposition to any be naturally increased. Governon. It was to the effect that "the replied.
community which may wish to live ment departments are blamed for Magistrate may order the lessor ta. He said in part:-In view separately among its own kith and delay and it is possible that the allow the lessee possession of such The Attorney General remarked FINES FOR LANLORDS WHO BLUFF of the numerous points which kin. We have, in fact, recently virus of the delay would spread
I am afraid leased without auction to Chinese from the Government body to the that after a house had been rebuilt have been raised, I must ask the
it might be difficult,for a former an area on which they propose to new committee. patience of
tenant to find the corresponding the Council while I traverse a build fifty houses for the perman-
At the present time we are get-part in the new house correspon At the meeting of the Legisla rather wide field. First I must eat residence of members of the
ting a large amount of desirable-ding to the portion he had occupied. Live Council yesterday afternoon, take the opportunity to express the Chinese community.
CASE FOR THE CHINESE. " reconstruction done at the expense The Hon. Mr. R. H. Kotewall after the second reading of the bill obligation of the Government to to amend the Rents Ordinance the Senior Unofficial member for With regard to the case present- of the landlord. If it is not done by considered that the amendment 1922 had been moved by the his assistance in investigating num-ed by the Chinese, Mr. Fletcher, it is probably only a question was not worth pressing, and it was Attorney General and seconded by erous cases of hardship and in after quoting portions of a petition of time before it is necessary to do dropped. the Colonial Secretary, petitions exploring all the avenues which from the Hongkong Tenantsit at-public expense. Now, every relating the Bill were placed on night possibly lead to a solution of Protective Society, which repre body seems to have money to spare: the table. Both the Hon. Mr this most difficult housing and sents 40,000 members of families they are ready to spend it in recon
H.E. the Governor suggested stricted buildings because, owing Pollock K.C. and the Hon. Mr. rents question. I would like to add summed up the position thus: Kotowall dwelt ar--some length my thanks also. I might also re- But with regard to this rental to various circumstances, including that it would be difficult to apply on the subject. The latter's speech mark on the excellent. work done question I think there has been revolutions in China, remunerative the amendment to the case of a appeared in full in yesterday's by the hon. members representing great exaggeration. The Govern- employment of capital in China is man who wanted sleeping space issue. After the Hon. Mr. Pollock the Chinese community on behalfment has had in contemplation ation of affairs passes away and peo-know anything about the standard difficult to finch When that condi- for a week-end, who would not ad instanced many cases of hard- of their compatriots. The matters scheme for building a large num-ple have other uses for their money rent ships among the Chinese, Pontu- most immediately before thisber of bungalows, semi-detached,
The Hon. Mr. Follock: It might guese and European community, Council are petitions from the along the railway line in-Kowloon-with the six or seven per cent. they be difficult with regard to a bed
it is unlikely they will be content She said:
tenants of Belilios Terrace and The idea was that these tem- shall move the amendment that the residence of Rutter Street, porary bungalows should be of the can get out of reconstructed tene space, but there are other parts of When that time comes the house in regard to which it the following new clause be to which I will refer later. Resimplest construction with woodea Bents. inserted, after clause 6:--
garding. Delilios Terrace there roofs covered with Malthoid roof-they will put off the construction would not be difficult.
as long as their houses will hold HE. the Governor; But if it does Section 4 of the principal are forty-two families, numbering ing and no foundations except together. I must confess I should apply to the small space it is diffi Ordinance is hereby amended: about 200 souls, housed in the 37 enough to keep them standing be reluctant to be a member of the cult to get it to work, and it may
(1.) By the insertion after sub- buildings of these three terraces against typhoons. Without allow propose committee unless I was give opportunities for blackmail. Section (1) thereof of the follow- and it undoubtedly is, as the Senior ing for amortisation, repairs and ing sub-section, to be numbered Unofficial Member has said, a very upkeep, and 8 per cent on the an architect or an engineer, because (2) (2) Notwithstanding any great hardship that this sheltered. investment, the minimum rental if the Committee refuses permis thing contained in paragraph (f) self-contained community should works out at $130 a month, I will sion to reconstruct and there was a of sub-section (i) of this section be evicted at such short notice; but read from the estimate: "This is Terrace were to collapse upori its serious disaster-supposing Belillos a Committee of three persons, it must be remembered that, owing the minimum rental which could appointed by the Governor in to the generosity of, the Belilios be charged, notwithstanding the inmates feel that the Committee harm.
which refused · to. allow The Hon. Mr. Pollock: The Council, may, in its absolute family over a long period of years, fact that the land would be leased ft to. be reconstructed amendment is taken from a pre- discretion, postpone the opera- their rents have not been appreci- for a period of ten years without would find their consciences and cedent-the Straits Ordinance. tion of the notice to quit and also ably increased, while during the charge. No provision has been their reputations cuffer as the H.E. the Governor: Do you the demolition and reconstruc- same period their salaries and niade for vacancies, and con- result. However, as I say, if the know whether their conditions are tion of domestic tenements (in consequently their. rent-paying sequently is doubtful
Council considers that this clause similar? I have not the slightest a lower rental than cases in which plans for recon- capacity, have been considerably whether struction have not been received augmented, with the result that $150 could be charged. This should form part of the Ordinance objection to the amendment, but it
am perfectly content to leave it to seems to me its practicability is the principal Ordinance with the by the Building Authority on or they are now in a much more merely proves that blocks of re their decision. There is one other doubtful, and it does seem to offer substitution of the figures 24 for 23. before the 14th day of June, 1923) favourable position than the neigh-sidential flats are necessary with a point. It is proposed that the com- opportunities for blackmail if cer in the second line thereof. from time to time for a period bours who surround them. The view of obtaining cheap accommittee should have discretion to tai people like to take advantage not exceeding 18 months in all matter came to my attention some modation, and that cheaply con-
The Bill then passed through EMPLOYER'S. MONEY reconstruction for as of it. Can you see any way of Committee without further amend- postpone from the date of the receipt of time before the Petition reached structed bungalows will not meet long as eighteen months. If the
the Building me. On the very morning on which the case. These houses were as Ordinance is only to last for mending the clause which is lessment and the Council then re-
open to objection? I received it I got the option of 34 cheap aud small as they could be, twelve months it is undersirable to The Hon. Mr. Pollock: There All plans for the demolition or flats at West Point-two-roomed occupying 1,400 square feet and have a longer period named in the certainly should be such a clause. I had not containing two bed-rooms, one measure itself. The position would ANOTHER COUNT OF VOTES, reconstruction-of domestic tene Bats of European style. recuts which are received by the seen them at the time, but I sent sitting-room, one bath-room and be that the Committhe would have Building Authority after the said the Committee of the tenants to small servants quarters. The cost
H.E. the Governor: We will power to exercise jurisdiction referred by the investigate and they reported for a quantity (400 was suggested) under the Ordinance six months leave the matter to the opinion of date shall be Building Authority to the said that they were
after the Ordinance had expired, the Council, and I take care on this partly on account of the The Honourable Senior Unoffi- His Excellency suggested the occasion to express no opinion my- Committee.
sub-sanitary arrangements, and partly cial Member mentioned the flats
On being put to the vote (ii.) By renumbering
HE. the Governor said "Fahink sections (2), (3), (4), (5) and (6) on account of danger from fire, be built, by the Italian Mission in substitution of the figures 12 for 18 self.
in the Amendment. ing in a Chinese locality. I went Robinson Road, pointing out that
“No's” have It." respectively (3), (4), (5), (6) and down personally and looked at they were too expensive for the re (7) respectively..
them. The rent was $45 for a two-sidents threatened with eviction After going into full details of his roomed flat, but by putting two from Belilios Terrace. These reasons for moving the amend rooms into one they would get a buildings have been put up under ment, Mr. Pollock continued -
four-roomed flat for $90. I agreed the Government Loan Scheme and In asking the Government to with the tenants that they were not I am satisfied that the return on the accede to the amendment which I suitable. At the same time the cost of the buildings alone will not shall move in Committee I am not Belilios Terrace houses struck me be more than six per cent, and if sking them to adopt an entirely as being in the very last stage of the value of the land is added the new principle, because the prin- decay and literally tumbling to return will not be more than three,
iple of postponement of delivery bits. I invited the assistance of or three and a half per cent. of possession is recognised by sub- Mr. J. M. Alves, who has rendered Further details of the proceed section 3 of sub-section 4 of the me very great assistance in this ings will be found elsewhere, in Rents Ordinance, 1922. Unfor tunately, it is recognised at so late matter, and we went over together this issue.
such plans by Authority.
it
„not · suitable, was estimated at $6,200 each,
to Kowloon and visited blocks con- -THE COMMITTEE, STAGE,
a stage--at a stage when judgmenting altogether some 130 new
H. E. the Governor, having
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DIVISION CALLED FOR, The Hon. Mr. Pollock accepted
the suggestion and the amendment was then put.
H.E. the Governor: I think the "No's" have it:
The Hon. Mr. Pollock called for a division, and the votes were re corded as follows: lock, the Hon. Mr. P. H. Holyoak, For The Hon. Mr. H. E. Pol- the Hon. Mr. A. G. Stephen, the Hon. Mr. RH. Kotewall, the Hon.
Mr. Chan Siu-ki
Against The Hon. Mr. A. O. Lang, the Hon. the Officer Com manding the Troops, the Colonial the Colonial Treasurer, the Secre
The Colonial Secretary: Does Surely not Section 17 cover it? that Section is sufficient? the amendment could not do much The Attorney General thought
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Footsore and weary after a The Attorney General moved and the Colonial Secretary second-week's tramp from Halifax to Lon- ed the third-reading of the Bill, don, a distance of about 200 miles, Henry Edward Birchinall; a This was carried and the Bill
fishmonger's assistant, whose houte passed accordingly.
is in Hall place, Paddington, walk- ed into Crawford-place (Mary- lebone)police-station and gave him- self up on a charge of embezzling- Speaking on "Love and Murri-£8 odd belonging to his former at Harrods Stores, Brompton-employer, Charles Chaplin, a fish- The Hon. Mr. Pollock, claimed a ton-road, S.W. Mr. W. L. George, monger, of Padddington street
the nordlist, gave the following Marylebone. division, when there voted.
For The Hon. Mr. A. O. Lang, precepts as aids to matrimonial Hon. Mr. P. H. Holyoak, the Hon. the Hon. Mr. A. G. Stephen, the happiness:
Mr. H. E. Pollock, the Hon. Mr. R. H. Kotewall, the Director of Public Works, the Attorney General, the Officer Commanding the Troops. Once a day say to a womail, tary, the Colonial Treasurer, the Di- Once a day say to a man, Against The Colonial Secre-"How beautiful you are!" recto Education, the Secretary strong you are!" or "How clever
Don't open each other's letters. Don't bore each other.
If you absolutely must be frank, do it in private.
you are!"
How
for Chinese Affairs... carried by nine votes to four.
The amendment was therefore If it seems hard to be married to It was agreed to substitute for ed to" you."
"him" remember that he is marri-i
has been recovered against the un-flats, and I also visited the new intimated that he would: defer his Secretary, the Attorney General / Clause 10 of the Bill Section ro of
fortunate tenant-that practically it hotel. When I returned I sent for
is of very little use. Itis necessary, various landlords, including the remarks till, the committee stage,
follows:-
LESSORS.
than more
half
and way,
tor of Education, the Director of Public Works.
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I submit, for somebody like a Com- landlord of the hotel, and got the the second reading of the Bill was taxy for Chinese Affairs, the Direc mittee of three persons to have the option on a number of buildings carried. The Council then went vene in the interests of the tenants. or $150. I consulted the owners clause of which he had spoken the lost by eight votes to five. power at an carlier stage to inter-at rentals varying from $70 into Committee,
In moving the proposed fiew The amendment was therefore PENALTY FOR OFFENDING of Belilios Terrace, who met Hon. Mr. Pollock said: I should The Hon. Mr. Pollock made an Now, Sir, I come to the second have been most considerate, I like to say with regard to what has observation to the effect that the
Members
would amendment, which, it is proposed put these facts before the tenants, fallen from the Acting Colonial Unofficial. to move in Committee, that is that at the same time I got in touch with Secretary that, first of all, I am obviously not vote in favour of the Bishop Pozzoni who put at my dissatisfied that it is desirable amendment after the very strong clause 9 of the Bill be amended as posal ten flats for these tenants in to have some body which can expression of opinion which H. E.. be referred to as & com the Governor had given against it. (i) By substituting sections Robinson Road, which will be are" for "section is in the first ready at the end of the year. With mittee in this question of re- It did not amount to free voting regard to the Senior Honourable construction and that for the but was a manoeuvre to defeat the line thereof; and
(i) By inserting at the end of member's reference to Palermo reasons I have given in my speech Unofficial ninority, and he did not
Buildings the landlord very kindly on the second reading. I quite ap consider it fair. clause 9 of the following ;— reduced the rents from $80 to $50, preciate the extraordinary efforts of HE. the Governor: In case there
29. Every lessor who de- and I put this offer to the tenants,
the Colonial Secretary re housing of was any misunderstanding, I hope mands or receives more than but they came to me with a refusal tenants. But it is desirable that it no Official member considered that the standard rent for any to take the ground floors because should come before a regularly anything I said bound him to vote domestic tenement shall unless they were filed. I hope I may not constituted body and that there in any other way than his own judg he proves to the satisfaction of give offence when I say that the should be a body which has a ment dictated. the Magistrate, that be acted attitude of some of these tenants certain legal status. The Colonial Several Unofficial Mombers: bona fide, be liable up sum by no means the majority of them Secretary, in his position, carries a Quite clear, mary conviction to a fine not but the attitude of some of them is great deal of prestige and influen- The Hon Mr. Pollock repeated exceeding оде thousand in accordance with Mr. Micawber's ce, but I think it is desirable that the observation de to the effect upon dollars.
maxim of waiting for something there should be some body which the judgments of Oficial members I submit that clause is a very to turn up," rather than with the law has power to put a certain of a strong expression of opinion in useful and a very necessary one. I more strenuous proverb that God check on reconstruction, until one direction by H.E the Gov- would remind the Council that a helps those who help themselves." satisfactory measures have been emor Iessor includes not merely the first I am not a house agent, but I am That is the reason I press for this sorry to suppose that members of taken for the rehousing of tenants. HE. the Governor: Ishould be Jandlord but the principal tenants Batisäed that satisfactory, arrange- of premises or the lessor of two or ments will eventually be made for clause. With regard to Bolilips the Public Service were quite to in three cubicles; the lessor of any getting all these people into new Terrace, I got the Building portion of the building from the homes. With regard to the Senfor Ordinance Officer's report on whole building down to bedspace, Unofficial Member's remarks about various properties. Though he
On ap tobiervation by the Hon. and that perion it is proposed to the Beaconsfield Arcade property, says that these premises are old Mr. Pollock that the result was make liable to a penalty if he des may mention that these flats have does not put the cross against bound 10 dilow mands or, receives more than the been, and are tenanted, by Sanitary them which denotes dilapidation Hammer Auld: Imust standard rent for any domestic Inspectors and other Europeans in SPEECH BY GOVERNOR really disent object to the fanement, which I have explained the Government service. Some of HE the Goverept should like phrase use includes every. kind of lessor and them have been there a consider, every kind of division or sub- able time..
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