MONDAY, APRIL 7, 1913,

NOVELTY!

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Cyclamona

Freesin

Trifalin

Fongeer en Fleuro Mimosa

Feau d'Espagne

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TOILET WATER, 170

Lubia

Eau de Cologne

Alcon Mouthu Ricles

Dr Pierre

Dentifrizo

Benedictine. Triendlina Hair Restorer.

THE CHINA MAIL.

SAINT-RAPHAEL

HONGKONG AVERAGE MARKET

PRICES.

Corrected to Thursday, diri Srd, 1#13

At 100 cents per Dolar hexicari.

| Salmon,—M«Yau Yu.....

Shack,- Y Sikate,-Po Yu

Shrimps-Ex

Snapper,-Lap In

10.

Butcher Meat

18

Beef Sirloin & Prime Cut-Mai Lung l'a

118

Bolos,-Tat Sa Yo Tanch-Wan Tu

18

H

18

Tonic, RESTORATIVE, DIGESTIVE WINE Very palatable,

**

Corned-Ham Ngau. Yuk

18

Turbo-Cho How Ya'

.18

144

#9

Roma-Shiu 49.

18.

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AND OTHER VARIETIES.

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18,200,000,00

A Coming Arctic Search.

£1,500,000 2/--$15,000,000 Alvar...

Twi

Breast,Nagu Lam

Turtles, small, fresh water,—Bork Yu

White Bait-Ngan In Chal.........

86

+

Soap,-Tong Yur

15

N

Fruite.

1+

Steak,-Ngau Yuk Pa

11

18

a

11

Sirloin Cotam-Ngan Lan

99

monda-Hung Yan

I

D. 28

ET

SAKATAR—Nga Chung Bullock's Braine- ja Know

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EU

164

per sot 10:

Tongue tresh-Ngan Li

ush #5

corned- Ham Byas. L.

SS

ATA

Bad-gia-Tan

80

Heart-Ngau Sex

Appios (California)--Ban Fan Fing Abo

(Chefoo)--Tin Chun Fing Kio.

Smali,-Hoi Tong

Custard-Fan Lat Obl

Hanadan, fragrant, Candon,-Bau Jaing

Heung Chinmin of man,

Bananas, (brides), Macao, ---an Hemg Chia,,

Chestnuts, Chiness,Fong Lat

PROPRIETORS pistoriansocent

+ „COURT OF DIRECTŪRĀ.

F. E. ÁRHATZOka, Esq.-Chairman,

Hon. Mr C. H. Rose-Deprty Chalman*

HRAD OPTION—YOKOHAMA, -

BRANCHES AND AGENCIES AT

8. H. Dodwell, Kaq-, W. L. Pattenden, ANTUNG-HUN G. Friesland, Esq.

Esq.

BOMBAY

C. 8. Gabbay, Heq.JA. Plommer, E-CALCUTTA

G. R. Laurent, Esq. Hon. Mr. Shelim.

F. Lieb, Faq.

ELA, Sieba, Esq.

CHIE MANAGES :

Hongkong-N. J. STABB. ́

MANAGER:

Shanghai-A. G. STEPHEN,

LONDON BANKER-LONDON COUNTY AND Westminster Baxx, LauraD,

HONGKONG-INTERZIS ALLOWED.

Un Uurrent Account as the rabe of Two gar cent. per annum on the daily baixos,

OR FIXED POETS >—

For 3 months 2 per cent per annum”

CHANGCHUN

Lrom

NAGARAKI NEWORWANG

NEW YORK

| Dairey (Daily) Oraka

FENOTTEN (MUKDEN) PAKET

HANKOW BOBOLULU H&BAIJ

Kon

LONDON LOS ÁSCELES

RYOJEN (PORTARYHua)

SAN FRANC1500 SHANGHAI

TIRLING

Toxro

Interest all wed on Current Accounts. Deposita received far fixed perioda st rates to be obtained on application,

EISHI ONO,

Manager,

Hongkong, March 31, 1913.

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N. J. STABB,

City Manager,

THE

HONGKONG SAVINGS BANK.

Blongong, February 22, 1913.

THE

to be deprecated. At one time, for in- stance, I made a 14 months' journey with two weeks' supply of provisions. All the aretic islands north of Canada known fo us will support human life izdefinitely and enable a man understanding the con- Mr. Vilhjalmur Stefansson, the Canaditions to go there and stay as long as dian' explorer, who during his five years' be fikes without carrying provisions, travels in the Arctic discovered a race of blonda Eskimos, arrived in England recently to lecture before the Royal Geo THE SHANGHAI CONFLAGRATION. graphical Society, and to make arrmige. ments in connection with his projectod four years' expedition on behalf of Canada in North Polar regions to verify the existence of a supposed land a million square miles in extent,

The chief object of the new expedi tion, the told Reutor's representative), is to explore this area by ship as far as pos Isible in summer, and by sledge in winter. If new land is discovered, I hope to establish a base upon it; but if no out land is found, we shall have cur base at Land's End, on Prines Patrick Island. The land is situated roughly north of Western Canada and north of Alaska.

"The North China Daily News " OF March 31, in the course of a long do "cription of the fire at Messrs. Melcher and Co.'s wharf and godowns at Footung states:-

.

CONFLAGRATION VIEWED FROM AL

LAUNCH

AN APPALLING SPECTACLE. Towards mid-aight the fire threatened to assume vast proportions. Buildings at its centre were blazing like a great fur- tace, sheets of various enloured Bames being sent high in the air and giving eff waves of dense black smoko rolling aeroes the siver and over the Settlement. The foreign firemen and sailors from the men- of war were impotent in the face of such a tremendons blaze and after a time it

1

2

Hamp, Salt-Ngan Kin

Feet,-Ngau Kark

Kidneys-Ngau Yiu-

-Tail-Ngan Hei

Liver,-Ngan Ken

..Tripe (undressed) Ngau To

EMTA

15

31

8

牛國

牛機

Carambola,—Young Tae

18

牛繩

Cocoanute-Teh T

18

牛肝

Lemons, China,Ning Moong

0

牛鞋

Calvs Head & Feet--Ngau-chai-tau-kark, ori $1 Mutton Chop-Teung Fai Kwat

Leg,-Young Pei Shoulder,Yeung Shau

Pigs Chitlings-Chu Chong

Brains-Chu Know Feet;-Chu Karit

3

25

12

sach 19

1be. 8

&

b 46

**

74

America,- Kem San Ning Moon,

Lichees Dried.—Lai Chi, smali Stone

Freib

*1***

Limes, (Saigon)--Sai Krog Ning Wrong mich — Mango, Manila,-Lui Sung Mong

Mangosteens-San Chuk Tie

་་་

don-

Oranges, (Canton)-San-aking Tim Ching b Oranges Sweet

Pears, (American),-Kam San Shoot Ir

(Canton), Cooking,--Sa Lay Pespute, -Fa Sang ...

Persimmons Large,-Hung Chie เ

10

Pineapples, latquality, -Poon Ti Paw Law each 10

2nd ...-Chung-tang Paw Law „

B

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ib 25.

thy

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M

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24

15

... pur set 2

Fin

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lb 12

Chu Chak

17+

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'80

Head,-Chu Tan

BM

18

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Heart-Cha Sum

each 10

IN

Kidneys, Chu-Xiu

#1

7

Liver, Chu Con

144

31 24

་་

43

23

2n

11

Plautain,-Tai Chen Plums,Swatow, Hung Lai... Pumelo, Siam, Chim Lo Yau

Shanghai-Lo Kwat

Ib

esch 12

Walnuts,--Hop Tue

Tb · 19

IK

Pork, Chop,-Chu Pai Kwat... Corned,-Ham Chu Yuk

Sheep

Leg,-Chu Pai

Fat or Lard-Chu:Fau

-

Head and Feet,-Young Tau Back aus: 65 Heart-Young Stim Kidneys, Young Yin Liver,TM-Yeung Con Sucking Pigs, To Order---Chu Chai Sust, Beef-Sang Ngau Yau ...

The Canadian Prime Minister has pointed out that as the expeditions may largely extend the borders of the British Empire, it should go under the British fog. Accordingly, I am going out in MERCANTILE BANK OF June as the head of a British expedition. lind to be left bo its own course, while 'INDIA, LIMIZED.

My scientific staff consists of teu mem-attention was given to saving the shipping ber, and we leave Victoria, British at the wharves. AUTHORIZED CAPITAL ..........£1,500,000 Columbia, in June next in the whaler

A large factory on the southern side STRICKLED do.

£1,123,000 16E business of the above Bank in con- PAD-UT

582,500 Karlek, whose captain is the well-known was attacked, though fortunately the pro- ducted by the HONGKONG AND REILBY FUND

415,000 navigator, Pedersen. The vessel will progress of the flames in this direction was CORPORA. SHANGHAI BANKING

eeed east along the north coast of Albeks. slow in consequence of the wind blowing

"If casterly winds prevail we shall and against then. From the launches in the Chicken,-Kai Chai TION. Rules may be obtained on ap

open water in the Beaufort Ses, and river the seene presented was weird. The pliostion.

should reach Herschell Island, at the line of fame must have been at least 200 Capots, Large, mall,-Sin Kal Douth the Mackenzie River, at the yarde long, and in contrast to its vivid Ducas, beginning of August. Thence we shall PER CENT. per annum. Depositor Caletta,

cail grth as far as the ice permits. may transfer at their option balances of Howrah.

Dolhi

There is no means of telling how far this $100 or more to the HONGKONG AND

Madris.

is possible, although we know that whal. SHANGHAI BANK, to be placed on Farachi.

Kuala Lumpur, F.M.S.ing vests have been 200 railes without Hongkong. LAED DEPOSIT at 4 PER VENT. per Rangoon. Colombo,

Shanghai,

seeing ice. AGENTO IN JAPAN Masaza JARDINE, MATHESON & 0..,

do..

ANAD OFFICE,

40 THBRAUNEEDLE STREET,

INTEREST on depoelte is allowed on micimom monthly balancës

at Bombay.

the

Igm.

For the Hongkong and Shangha” Banking Corporation,

N. J. ETABB,

Chier Manager.

Hongkong, July 1, 1912.

A

1517

THE CHARTERED BANK OF INDIA,

THE USTRALIA, AND CHINA.

INCORPORATED by Royal Oxhaktar 1855, ELIS OFTOL, LONDON,

www.dem

***

....£1,200,000 ...£1,650,000

...£1,200,000

FOREIGN EXCHANGE and General Banking business transacted.

PAID-UP CAFHJAZ Raxxryx FUND... BETE LIABILITY OF Pao-

PELZTORA

** ***

***

CURRENT ACCOUNTS opened and FIXED DEPOSITS received for 1 year or shorter periods abraten which will bagnoted on application.

WE. DICKSON, Manager. Hongkong, April 12, 1913.-

NEDERLANDSUHE HANDEL

MAATSCHAPPIJ.

LONDON, EC.

BRANCHES :

Kandy.

Galle

Sings porn, Forang. Kots Pahru, Kelantan.

LTD.

BANKILA:

BANK OF ENGLAND Lorvos JoT STOCK BARX, ŽIMIZED.

COPTER DEPOSITS.

red were the pale beams of searclilights from the mea-ul-was playing on the ship- ping and small craft en either side and illuminating figures gushing here and there, Chinese making frantic efforts to get their boats away from the flame creeping gradually down the rivur.

In the foreground on a jetty inmedi. ately before the centre of the blaze a number of foreigners were standing, fire.

THE RETREAT TO THE HOÄTS.

It, however, we have westerly instand of casterly winds we may have difficulty in reaching the Mackenzie River, thus men, sailors, and civilians, having slowly necessitating keeping close to the coast been driven back towards the water's edge. and having to forego exploration Los The destruction of this jetty was drama- Every description of Barking and Ex.Your. In this case we should establish tic, and was accompanied by a pitifully change business transacted, and Stack base as far north-east as possible.

tragis incident. and Shares bought and sold on socount of "My intention is to send the vessel constituents. Letters of Credit granted on | home each summer with nows of our pro- agents and Correspondents all over the gress. We expect to be away on this INTEREST allowed on Current Accounts expedition for four and a half years. It at ex per am on the Daily Balance and on Fixed Deposite at rates which may be ascertained on application.

F. C. MACDONALD

Manager Hongkong, March 18, 1913.

INTERNATIONAL

A

1

CORP

JORPORATION. BANKING

HELD OFFICE: 60, Wall Street, New York. LONDON Orics: 88, Bishopegate, EQ.

BRANCHES :

Bombay. Calcutta.

Canton

Coba. Colon,

Empire. Hongkong- Hankow.

Kobs. Manila.

Mexico,

Panama,

Paking

Shanghai. Yokohama

San Francisco.

The flames made a sudden dash-thair swift movement can scarcely be described

Doves,--Pan Kau.

***

Hen-Kal Tan Foris, Cantin-Kai...

Hainan,--Hoi Nam Goose,-Ngoi Kai

(China) Sai Kwa

гъ

生替换子

Vegetables &o,

菜蔬

Ib &

Green,--Sang Hop Tao...

Water Melon-Kom San Sai Kwa each

Grapes,--Sang Fu Tai The

Artichores, Shanghai, Sheung-hri Ah

Chi Chenk

Beans, (French), Macao,-Oh Moon Pin Tan, 10

(French), Shanghai, Sheung Hai

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414

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ac. T.

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生牛油

Mutton, Sang Young Yau Veal,-Ngau Chai Yuk

23

生羊油R

18

2

Sausages-Ngau Chai Chaung.......

牛仔腸

Poultry.

生日

14

Pin Tau

CTS

11

Eprout,—Ah Cho

b

32

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Long, Tau Ko

30

"

Best Root,-Hang Choi Tar

24

12

Brinjals, Green,-Ching Your

444

11

b

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Red,-Hung Ker

*

"

"

per drs 24

Cabbage, Chinese, co-Kai Choy.

10

+

"34

Cabbage Rod,-Hung Ya Choy

12

Cabbage, Shanghai-Fob Chol

22

Cane Bhoots, bunch,-Kau Shun...

16

Cauliflower, Large size Tai Yeh Che Fa Barb '18

Medium size,--Cheung Yoh ChoFa 1

70

pair 31.Gu

Small size,---Sai Yon Chol F's Carrota,Kam Shun

10

"

***

6

FIT

34

Barb ST

Hothon, Hoi How Tak Kap,» Quail,-Um-Chan

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29

Colory, Chinese,-Toug Kan Chol

Ear ish-Yeung

8

KAK

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Chillies Uriou, Gon Lat. Chiu

J+

26

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Red,Hung Far

18

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340

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Green-Ching La Chiu

10

1b.

65

Curry Stuff, English-Kar Les Ohr Lis

10

50

Cucumbers,--Ching K**

8

$1.20

Bitter Squash,-Fu Kwa

70

Garlic,-Que Ta

83.10

10

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:

Geese, WildS'hai,-Shang-he YeaNgoi palt- Musk Deer-Wong Keng Hare, Shanghai,-Tu Chai Partridge,-Che Khoo Pleasant,-Ebau Kar Pigeons, Canton,-Pak Kup

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Rice Birds-Wo Fa Cheur

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Turkeys Lock--Phor Kai Kang

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is no part of my programme to go to the as lens--towards this jetty, a flow of oil Pule. Some scientiste hold that there is and tallow apparently being the cause of a vast area of undiscovered land in the this quick change of direction. From 100 unmapped portion of the Polar ses, for to 15 men were driven back on to the wild Ducks, Bhai-Shang-Lui Sul Ap it is impossible to explain the tical phono- jetty, and for a moment or two it was mena on any other desumption, and the thought they would be sate. Someone Teal-Sui Ap Chai, smallest area this region is put at is suddenly realized that the jetty was Wild Ducks Caton-Sang-Shing fui Ap 500,000 square miles. That may be one doomed, and in an instant there was a dash for the boats, a couple of launches, land or a dense archipelago."

**If this bo so, what may be its valuo ? two or three pinnaces, and a number of "It is impossible to say. During the sumpas moored alongside. The fames Farbel,-Ka Ya... lant expedition I first published the fact absolutely leapt forward, and firemen and that copper oxists in large quantity in the naval officers and men wore compelled to Furry Islands. At present there are, of jump into the nearest boat. Many of course, transportation and other differd. the sailors took a dive into the water and ties in the way of development. You afterwards climbed into the boate... must rereember, however, that in 1887 Within two minutes from the begin the American Secretary of Stato was pubning of "the retreat" the jetty was a

Bream,-Bin Yu

Canton Fresh Water Fish, Hoi Bin Yu Carp-Li Yı Catal.-Chik Yu

liely denotinced for spending 6,500,000 of roaring flame from end to end. Codfish,—lian Ya dollars of public money for the purchase Burning oil poured down on the water, Crabs -

Dab,-Sa king Ya Dace,Wong Mei Lon

of Alaska, which was regarded as a block spreading flame in all directions and schuttle Fish,--Muk Ta of ice. To-day Alaska is a commercial ting fire to several boete which had hoch empire of fabulous wealth. It would be left behind in the confused rish fox sato. (Nazairalande Thanno Bociany).

OAKITAL AND REKK $7,080,000 rush to say this was not possible in the ty. Among these wore a couple of navy -pinnacos, · The advance of the fumes wis

Dog Fish-Tit Tu Sa ******* ESLABAMAHko 1894. -

Equal... £1,400,000 Canadian Arctic." EVERY DESCRIPTION OF BANK-

As regards equipment the axplorer said: so rapid that it was imponible to sớ "I believe in extrano simplicity. I hope whether all the foreigners escaped. In 100,000,000 (£4,000,000/-) ING BUSINESS transected.

CURRENT ACCOUNTS opened on the to have wireless telegraphy, but apart any case the Iset to enter the boats could from this no special equipment except only have done so with a few seconds, for dredging and for studying terrestrial to spare. magnetiam. I believe over-equipment is

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WATERBURY'S METABOLIZED COD LIVER OIL- COMPOUND,

2.

Ginger, young,--Sun The Kezog

old.--Lo Keung »**.

Horse Radiah, S'hai,—Lik K»»

Indian Corn,--Bak Mai ...

Lettuce,-Young Sang Chri

Water Chesnutz-Ma Tai

Mandarin,-Kwai Lam Ma Tr).

Mushrooms, Fresh-Bang Cho Koz

Musk Melon, Amer.-kam-maz Hong Kwa earh Ukrves,

Oniona. Bombay,-Young Chong Tan

Shanghai-Shang-hot Chong Tre

Papaw, Let qual, Tal Man Sau Kas

Chas Parlor.Kuin chu

15

18:

19.

18

20

Green, Sang Chong

15

11

2nd

12

15

11.

Fresh water,--Tam Blu Y.

Green Feax-Ching Tas

10

Cels, Conges,-Hoi Mann'

Eels, Yellow, Wong Sin Frogs,-Ton Kai Garoups-Sok Pan

Gudgeon,--Pak Kup Yo Hurings, Tao Pak... Flalibut, Cheung Kwan Kup Labras, Wong Fa Yu Loach, Wu Y

A BAMEIN TRAGEDY. Two unfortunate sampan men mede attempts to croape when escape was im possible. Their boats were moored to the jetty at the southern and, and ap parently they were waiting for passengers whom they had brought over. The jetty was already burning Bezenly before they realized their poil, and even before they took up the gulab they were threatened Lobsters-Lang Ha by the burning til spreading on the fase | Mackerel,-Chi Yu

of the water. Their francie gestures and

eries for help were seen and heard by a

Monk Tub,-Ming Ya

number of people within a distance of Mullet-Chai Yu fifty yards, but sasistance was out of the Oystem-Sando question. The flames gathered round the ↑ Parrotfish-Eai Kong Yo two sampons of an incredible spoed and Perch,-Tau Log

few seconds they were on fire. The

Pika, Fa Pa Pang" Boatmen, standing in the middle of a

lurid shoot of fame, were soon to dive Plaice-Pan Yn

In

Seppile the blood, with the wanted zourishing and healthy Besh building materials. Very" palttable.

E OF ALL CHEMISTS -

PEOR $1.25 and 31.25,

BlackBak Chong

into the water and attengs to scramble Pomfre towards the side. They had gone but Pomfret, White-Pak Chong

a faw fook when they were entirely m

veloped. Through the flames their beads Pawna Ming

ware: fush ́viebla above the water and in

■ moment they disappeared : Thair: day struction was setul in its midderness.

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28

16

Potatoe. Sweet---Yan Shu

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Shanghai, Shang-hoi Ska Pua Japan,-Xut Poon Shu T American's Ki

Foochow Fook-chow Sha Ta

Pumpkin,Tong Kwa

Radish, Hung Lo Pak That

Khabab (Fresh),-Tal Won

Bage, The So

Shallote-Gun Chan Tan-

Buisach,

"Yin Ch. Tomatoes-Fan Cer

Taron Wa Tanz

Turnips, Punti, (Long)-Lo Pik

English

Young Lo Pil Veiotable Marrow,Chit K

Haman Chit

cung für:

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