MONDAY, AUGUST 8, 1909.
THE ICE CASE.
To-day's Proceedings,
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The action in which the Hongkong Milling Company, Elmited, sued Mossra Arnhold, Karberg and Co., for a sum of $100,000, the cost of a toe-making plant, together with the exponada incurresi in erecting an lee factory and store, lose the estimated value of the ide-making plant, was resumed in the Supreme Court today, before thei Chief Justice (ir F. Piggott) and the Puisne Judge (Bir Justion Gompertz)!!
Sir Henry Barkeley, EC. and Mr M. W. Slade (instructed by Mosars Hastings and Bastings) were for plaintiffs; and Mr Duncan MoNeill, of Shanghai, and Mr C. G. Alabaster (instructed by Mr Ha D. Looker, of Mesars Dhacon, Lookar and Deacon, appeared for the defendants.
Mr MaNaill aid there was a point which both parties felt ought to be decided, and that was in relation to the production of earrespondence by plaintifs. Defendants had called upon plaintiffs to produce certain correspondence which had passed babwean McRennio and other manufacturers of ice-plant. That correspondence they were unwilling to produce on the ground that they said it was not material Defen-
dants had been constantly taid that they had kept back correspondence, and now they asked that this correspondence should be produced, for it must be material to Mr Rennie's knowledge as to the different kinds of ice-plant that could be obtained, On that ground ho asked their Lordships! dacision as to its materiality,"
Mr Slada asid they were" absolutely ready and willing to produce the corres pondance it its were material. But it seemed to him to be absolutely immaterial. Mr Rennie, long before this cract was entered into, ens appranching various manufacturers. The question at image in the case wha- whether or not defendante had fulfilled their contract, and whatever the onima and pretensions of other manufacturers were with regard to their ice plant, this seemed to be entirely
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Mr-MaŊeili-Am T right in saying that the Tor of another firms the Oriental Bei
Did you ratuas to baž
Why I Am, you drawing in your horns with regard to trying to get this ion. businem, or in the demand amabler, he larger than it was I would rather not sure that question
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Is there a larger or smaller demand than In 1908) |— Larguson
'gnder the **can” aysbain ?--It is practically. the same, but it in quién avoidabľa. By
In reply to further questions by Mewery --haa bean, offardd MoNall, witnest mid before the contract was signed; he had a conversation with Mr Rennie as bo moans of delfrers of the ion Witaces at that time knew of downloa, and he had always regarded plate los butter than My Hennie did not way that his los was Menu" les'z if the ward "can" had been mentioned he would, har spoken to Massza Jardine, Matheson. on view of the increased demand I to invitations of
He fully expooted "phite" should like you to explain how it is that the matter,
while you wantando last your you do nob want it this year? We do want in still
You want it still and you have had offered to you the ice of another fonised the dida't you --Their prica Company. That is what is pamling ma was too high.
Do you know whether as a matter of fich the "on" joo is ma gonerally used in America than the plate" iesi-This The roseon of that is that a "can" plant le cheaper.
Do you know that ice produced in this way in America is consumed? Is is exten, inn't it 7-Yos ; they have no choice
Do you know whether there are any "plate" ice plants used in Amerisa 1–No.. Then if you don't, know whether the public has an opportunity of comparing plate" and "can" ice does it seem to you fair to say that the public baa no choice? Supposing there were they would by choice, wouldn't they as
Referring to an appliontion by Me Renate to inspect the Ise Company's works witness said they had a rule that aubody was allowed in..
The Chief Justice—You are going to let us in though..
Witness-Uh you
Mr MaNeill-I don't know whether I ought to be allowed in- prejudiced party
(ughtor).
Witness Labor sald that when he learned that the ice was made on the "on" system he expresse his surprise to Messrs Jardine, Matheson and told them he did not think it would be as good as that made by the Toe Company.
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Did you advise them to pass on that opinion to the Milling Company -I can't any
Can yon positively say that you did not give them that advice?—I may have.
Do
«»know of your own knowledge whether Jardins, Mathosan and Co. nunicated with Mr Rennio on the subject our this subject I can't may; I don't
know
Asked if there was any discussions to rejection of the plant before the trial was made witness said he did not think so but he certainly told 3 Ross of Mies Jardine, Matheson and Co. that unless the ice was much better he could not advise them to take it. He knew when the
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Was it more than the Milling
about 40 lool sekiante, worm gutariained on board, and all were greatly impressed with the behaviour of the boat. Exoood- togly wall appointed, and capable at speed of 82 kno's, the Tion Ma, with her allow draft, is an ideal saft for tirer
traffle. Tho ouurse of the bajal run, was
More than five-eighths of a cent, then paat Chlewati, round Chunghai Island, and The case was adjourned.
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Discussion at Engineers' Institute.
To the presence of a gathering number ing between forty and fifty Mr GE Glover read a most interesting and instrue tive paper on Water Tube Boilers
Institution 1 Fainers and Ship builders on Saturday evening. Mr. J. Findley Miler was in the chair.
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Kow and Co. are the sole agents for Chha After lucidly describing the various types and, the Philippines, and an idea of their of water tube boilers, his observations strength, durability, excellence of design boing illustrated by means of diagrams, and reliability can be gauged from the fact Mr Gloves serted that the water tube that the boats now on the ion average boiler was undoubtedly the scientific about 28,000 miles a year without having steam raiser. Is aleated restad interests to come to Hongkong for repair. The in the construction of shell boilers, but hull was built under the supervision of Mr those commercial interests should not Banker, at Wachow, while the onging was prejudice it. In its simplest form the installed by the Hongkong Dock Company water tube boiler el saly approached the under the supervision of Mr ♬ W. Kaw.
Before the company landed at Queen's leal. It enitodied the greatest strength with the least steaming weight. Bum- Statute Wharf. Mr D., Macdonald, on be marised, its advantages were as follows half of the guests, expressed apprecis Lightnows; portability: all parts an ex-tion for the pleasant trip and pro- pand freely: definite circulation in otio posed the most of uretes to the The Red Rosa of Summer, by Louise UNDERWOOD TYPEWRITERS. the very dret the possibility of some sort of he had seen dan ice on steamers and it direction; large grate area for a given floor Tieu B." He said her owners, Messus The League of the White Hand, by Oswald
has been awarded the grand prize at St. Louis Exposition. defence being based on Mr Reoniy's know. was fron those samples and from what he space ; `rany of access for clanning and res Kez and Banker. were the pioneers of the Hons of Intrigue, by Parcy White. Telgo and without in the least expressing had read in books that he formed the pair; no reduction of working pressure upper West River, for they had not only The
ITS WRITING IS ALWAYS IN SIGHT, Any opinion on itữ he should my the pinion Eant "can" ice was not so good nofcar repair; stenu can be raised, under fade travelling easy but also comfortable. Ltle Green World, by J. E Buckrosa. correspondence was material.
plate" ico. Apart from the cure and the The Puisie Judge said while not pre-hit net as he would not say that the Mill ordinary conditions, within an hour; the and rapid for the 1ublic who visited that pared to differ from the Chief Justice's ing Company's ice was not as clear the temperature of the water throughout the part of the country. He had no doubt view, he could hardly see how the corres Ice Company's pendence was material.
Aruming this ico to be a clear as your boiler being equal, there can be so strains that with such facilities many in the near and assuming it has a cure, do you now due to inequality of teniperature; no heavy fature would make a trip to Manning, and ennvider yourself justified in saying that expensive plant necessary for its construc- he hoped that numbers would find it con- the io is not as gond nasthat of the Ice tion; as there are so individual pieces of vanient to travel by the Tien Ma (Hear,
•'ompany 2 would say it was not as gona. excessive size and weight, the cost of trans-ear). The distance from Wuchow to Nar:- 1.The Romanos of Beuty, by Roy Horniman.
Now, Marton, you came to the giving
immaterial.
Mr McNeill said in paragraph of their defence they had alleged that Mr Rennie was perfectly well aware that "can" is
must bare a coro.
After their Torships hnd consulted, the Chief Justice Mid he had foreseen from
Mr Stadd darwok to produce the
inspection was buing made that the chine was on a test run, and he did not know whether Jardine, Math son knew of it. I did no: then form any opinion to the fairness of making a final in- spection during a test run, neither did he now think it unfair..
In furth-r cross-examination witness said
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31 6. K. Haxton, manager of the Bạn ko lo Lipany, the Cave G dence. Le state that his Company manufactured entirely on the "plate this sivien to Messrs Jardine, Matheson port is considerably less no great loss of ffo. with this in, your roinde ion time in pit, a ordinary repairs can be generally has a corethis is going to be affected and ship ready to sail in the time
can" Ice; the only "can" ice I have seen.
silly required to wol down the cylindrical boiler; and being comparatively modern, its advantages are likely to be progtussive.
A hearty expression of thanks having been accorded Bir Glover for his valuable piper,
system. In ion so made there was no cora, and the size of the pluses as they came from the plant was his feet long, six feet deep, and nuw inches wide. was not as clear as the ice of my company Each piece weighed 1,600 lbs. The and it was with that in your mind you ice was clear throughout, and if a pinto gave the opinion that the ice would not be were put up on end with an objects good; is that not so ?—Yes. on the other side, that object could **be easily seen through it.
While Mr McNeill was proceeding, a Occasionally misunderstanding arose between him and witness, whereupon Mr Slade interpolated
Turk.
Bir holes came into one corner of their blocks of ics, but about 30 per cent of the blocks were free from these.
Mr MoN-His Lordship the Puisne It was not possible to ravens these hole ecurring. Fudge has told me that I made a mistake Asked whether the trupatency of ice was and would sooner take it from him than in any way importans from a commercial you, Mr Slado. point of view, withtess said he should any so, Mr Sule-Very well. I was only try- During the 23 years he had been apuneering,kep you straight, but I shall give of the Company, the smale rýstem, homá it up now. been used as before, and the same eli ammessi Witnew then spuke of a text he made be had been faintained ever since. Rafering teen blocks of ace respectively alade from to the comparison ninde or-June 23-kongkong Toe Company's plint-and between the Milling Company's ice nd t the Milling Canigany's plaat. These blocks product of the Tee Company, witnes mid were each 16 lbs in weight, and by the the ice he then saw manufactured, by the time the Milling Company's ice was com Milling Co. was precisely similar to the plotely melted away there was all 1 lb. 3 block
oza, of the Ica Company's remaining. of the filling Co. which was now lying in the Ice Company's store. The
The Chief Justice You told us just now ico produced by the Milling Co. did not, that something happened because you used come up to the warmnty not being as
more water in the boxes in order to get solid as the Ice Company's ice. There more ice. I was wondering if by that you were air needles radiating from the core, meant harder, ico-No, simply larger which was largely composed of unexpelled blocks: you get three inches more. air, and which we porous. Objects could not be seen through the Milling Company's
jo.
ing was epmothing like 370 miles and about three years ago. It was a question of wecks to make that voyage. Now it could be aplished in six days by the vessele of Messrs Kew and Bunker. (Applause).
Mr Now, in the course of his reply, id-It is not often that trips of motor boats take place in Hongkong, nor in the Far East for that matter, especially in dalt of sich large dimensions as this one. But although I do not wish to take on the mantle of a prophet, I wou of opinion that in the near future woch trixis will be. if hot Mr Glover replied that methods would everyday occurrence, at least very fre vary with different types of boilers, but thent. Grunt heples have been expressed on all sides of the epoking is 87 China by "biker could be easily ran down and a new railroads and with its magnifica spadem waterways 1 predict that the motor boat tube put in.
boten unsigatebins's great rivers, will do its share in this direction. Stare but the ubiquitous motor bont of the low draught, burning kerosene as fuel, can pene trste beyond the limits of steam -vigation.
Mr Stokes asked "how'n burst tube în a water tube builer would be dealt with while auder way.
Mr Stokes enquired if that could be done without reducing the pressure,
Mr Glover: Certainly not, you can't do that with any boiler."
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Mr Stokes Pardon me, you can do it with the Scotch hoffer.
Mr Logan Does Mr Glover speak from theory or from practical experience t
Mr Glorer: Mr Glover speaks as a practical man with eleven years experience
Witness then, proceeded outline the reanite of a second experiment in which he of water tube boilers In addition to ex. said the blocks were of the same size, but perience with locomotive, matine and any
At the commencement the Hongkong Ice other type of boiler in-sommon use. Company's weighed 71bs, and the Milling Company's 77lbs.
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SOLIQualy engine. It was all right in a small boat to Afford a few hours pleasure and, incidently, many an hour's voration, tell, and sufled, 31, Queen's Road Central, temper when it broke down. Bat after tersul combustion engines, I have About 10 years experience with in-
Mr Slade part from the appearance is there any defect in the Milling Ce's ico
than toy Replying to other questions, Mr Glover as compared with the Ice Co's co-it melta quicker.
Mr McNeill-You have said that your said there were, he admitted, dificulties to To what do Pou attributes that ice, size for size, weighs a little heavier. be overcome, at present in water tube melting quicker ---To the core and the Now you have just said with regard to the boilers but he contended that as they
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experiment that the blocks were of The Chief Justice Do you mean it ielts the same size and shape aut nevertheless becznie known and properly managed they from the inside?--It melts from the inside, our block comes heavior. May I say it is would fure to become the boiler. and outside bath.
not always so 7—It is always-heavier.
A discussion ensued as to the nature of the
core, nad Mr Slade explained that it a bole
opening from the top, which was plugged with a substance in appearance very much like frozen mow.
Mr Blade-In your opinion as manager "of the Company was or was not this ice of the Milling Company, salonble by the fee Company on equal terme with the Ice Com pany's los 3-No. We would not have put
toa the market at the same price."
Why not?-Because we consider it to
be of diferent quality altogether.
experimenta.
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ico, size for sira, was haavier --Ten.
Thep how do you explain it 1-I think there must be a mistake in one of the Mr McNeill kald if a mistake were made in one experiment one might be mande in another
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The Puisno Judge-You did say your said that no expensive plaat was necessary stationary and sate
for the construction of "water tube boilers.ways give satisfaction because they per But in the case of a firm setting up to build Belleville boilers ha, anderstood that about special machines would he required for dealing with the boxes and tubes and that The Paiste Judget seems quite in those machines could not be used for any Mr MeNeill said other tests which had other purpose without extensive alterations. boon made showed that the Milling Com. Mr Glover admitted that in one particular pany's ice melted a ride slower at the type this might beso, but he said that the mala superior or inforior in quality 1-difference when the ice was exposed to the
quickar. Thorn was very little arise in another. Inferior.
Cross-examined by Mr: MaNeil Sup- san posing some parson was so unscrupulous.
Baked to explain why the con Witnem to put it on the ranrkeb on the same terma tract was made with Meeres Jardine, have you pay, reason for saying that is Matheson and to, said they were wanting would not have commanded the same prices larger output of ice at the time. They as your firm's ice-I could not say that had made a contract for a new machine in Sales might succeed
England but when this proposal was made In reply to further questions, ritaess by the Milling Co. the contract for the now said he had been in the Colony for nine machine was cancelled and arrangemente years, but had only beon with the Ice were made with the Milling Company to boiler had proved most successful in the Company for 34 years. Prior to that heater Mir Sinde again interrupted Mr Mo Navy 1 facture" of ice, though he had while an Neill, saying that witness had partially Mr Glover said opinion was divided on engineer attended to machinery used for made statement and was not allowed to that point. For himself he believed that such purpose. This was while he was an finish,dar adgang
the simpler the boiler the better. apprentice in Scotland. He had attended Mr McNeill-I never heard him say only one trial run, and he could not se anything of the kind, and I don't believe Ultimately it was resolved by adjourn member whether that plant was of the he said ite
the discussion of the subject until a fost ** can" or " plate " system. Portant
I am instructed that the lea now manis factured by your plant had in all cases white band on the top Not in all esses
In most conen,
Tanggest. Yes, just HOW Car
Should I be right in saying that that band is of the same nature as the core in the
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the Milling Company? That tomy, it is porous, made of frosan loe, Asked if he did not know that the reason ANY usual loss of abila poriented for the Geat year or fro, not to
why Jardine, Matheson and Co. made the bowls during the hot wasther should mention the pouuniary Loure
lers, he had faith,stuck to hi Compaby's arrangement they did with Mr Bonnie was be a warning to mothers. · Infantilas asded by
Mr Loaan Appended for something year without ever failing. The Tien Me now." They did not want to hear of may not be a "thing of beauty, bab things being argued 30 or 40 years ago. than show With or three sister bonda
has been designed for more serious work MAURICE E. BANDMANN PIESEISTE Mr Glover replied that, judging from already on the run she will be
Toon the nature of some of the questions, water to the Chinesq, from the high of tube boilers were far too new for many of to the humble farmer, tavelling busyeon those present to understand or appreciate it took works to cover the journey it Wuchow and Nanding, Where farmerly Mr Aul saked which type of water tube por takes but six to seven daya, and the increased comfort afforded over native janks needs no description Merchandise,
had any experience in the manu
It is opaque and It otherwise resembles in
the ooro in the
Blade
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Mr Stads-I was simply asking that, be faight bones, and in the montime the
be given a chance of completing what he members are to be given intended to say thing I've had to .com. plain of before to send in written questions
Aaliter stage Mir Blade
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Mr McNeil-Do leave it to the Judge
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இ put in so as to manufacture, mitte los fast output
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The Chief Justion-Do you say the band le of the same quality as the core produssa
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LARGE STOCK OF ALL SIZES ON HAND
JOHN & ROBERT HARVEY & CO., LIMITED.
BBTABLISHED 17700
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THE Undersigned have been appointed BOLE AGHNAH in Hongkong and
China for the above Company's WHISKIES
rvey's
ED FUNDS £12,000,000
Special $14 Per Osse
DODWELL & 00. FTD
Over £2,000
FAID: DAILY IN CEMA
THE STANDARD LIFE OFFICE
£1,000 POLICY FOR £2.0.8
above monthly premium will secure, & LEL,000
good life aged 25 next birthd PREMIUMS BY MONTHLY
WITHOUT EXI
For rates and full particulars
CHARGE
DODWE & CO LTD