FRIDAY, JULY: 20, 1894
THE INSANITARY CONDITION OF
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that there wa
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THE CHINA MAIL.
sanitary menauraa and the utter and woll. apartments have seen to it that the Board the responsibiartment. I would re- condition; sed to carry out in detail or Fease, no doctor of any kind has been in unless you can compat them.
ADY
Mr Franois-It is no use doing that
The President The matter had better stand over until next meeting.
Agreed.
BYSTER
the community shall not suffer in any way Board any credit for any important reaait houses is governed altogether by law. I of the Novarner be referred to a Ocm- In ossos -- whore any, doubt exists the srument as to the question of completing mitations: Ivecond Me Leigh's propos
as Hongkong to have a thorough know- ledge of all departmental details.
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WATER CLOSZTY.
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Considerable discussica arose on on pit would be a
made before there was a Sanitary Board in uporangia-1 bava forgotten what my ment to try to throw thei: responsibility circulated. The difficulties of this question words. Up till a very recent meeting of question of the sowage going into the Har
at last
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it is a matter which might very well be referred to a sub-committee of the Board
consider.
THE SANITARY BOARD. with reference to one or two points which could not understand. The principal point, Mr Leigh-Ii will alt up a long as it limit at ávö gallons per baad per day-why the part of paid Government oficiala, noti HONGKONG.A
by the inactivity of the unpaid mombers Appended in the full report of the dis did enable us to deal with these particular in fact the sole object of the two letters, in remains & cabal. Io Mr Price's Sims it more than the whole of that would be us
martare. In the second place, oren sup- to call attention to the fact that the war annually dredged out and it has silted somary to flush the water elosate.
The President-The Chinese never n of the Sanitary Board, whose limited powers
at present My Tooker-All I can say is that unless ther OFFRUAL RECORDS AND OFFICIAL INGRANDE, have, over and over again, leeu rendered cussion at yesterday's masting of the posing we had power to make by-laws on the registration of dilabuses and deaths has no up again.
Mz Francis-They probably would if the At the meeting of the Sanitary Board impotent by the Inxity of the Government. Banitary Board, on the Governor's minuto subject, we have no power eater and aristouce in this Colony, that
search. The feat of certain houses being carried out it is perfectly useless, and the drains are removed from the Canal you Mr Franola gave the Governor an answer to last night, the members devoted some timebi query why the Board had never, before asking why the Board had never previously aninhabitable was only ascertained by the until we beva an eativa registration of will have a continuous nuisance. The new houses had them
Mr Leigh The Chinese would certainly une water ofosets if they were there to the disclog the minute sent down by His the existing oriels esme upon the Calany, reported to him the existence of insanitary Permanent Committee; exercising practi. deaths and an adequate registration of system is completed there, and they should Excellency Sir William Rubinson. That exercised the powers which it clearly pos- dwellings, nor used its powers for dealing cally a enmmary power, in some zaspects an diseases it is impossible for the returns to now be connected,
irresponsible power arising out of the no-show in a reliable way the state of the The Colonial Surgeon-I don't think any boness.
The President--So far un I know, Done senses and has for
drains should be allowed to go into the years possessed in
with them." minuts stated that since he had been in
dorsities of the case, for we went (perhaps health of the colony. The regard to losenitary dwellings, Gk-
The President I may say with regard | Canal,
of the Chinese have shown any desire for The President As you see, gentlemen, against the law) into the houses one by one
The President That is what the, Acting | water-elosate yel the Colday, which is now more than two vernment, as in the case of the drainage
Mr Fraucis It is not a question of the year, His Excellengy had never, until the system, eeeased to west power in the Sani- there are a number of minutes, but the only and cleared out the population. A great to this that I have called attention to the
tary Beard, but in reality kept all the power, one of the members who seems to have many of these houses were aziuhabirable matter on more than one occasion. In my Director of Public Works her suggested other day, received from the Sanitary intentionally or ignorantly, in its own endeavoured to give an answer to the que because of the existence of mezzanine report of 1691 I said In a Colony like should be stopped. Is it worth while going Chinese merely, but it is a question of people building hauson for Chineas and having and almost entirely, composed of Chinese, who Mr Francis-But you cannot compel any water-alosete put in For many reaso Board or any other Board any notice hada, and all the protests by Mr Francis tion is Mr Francis. I may remind you that floors and cookclofte by the dazen. Now Hongkong, the population of which is late these things just now !
single insanitary and others to breathe the breath of vitality the question why has the Board berer the existence of mezzanine doors
ints the Sanitary Board have been nullified before this prisis exercised the powers which cooklofie in provided for by the Ur-are not acquainted with Western medical alteration in the drains unless the drains people building Ohiness bones of superfor dwelling in Chinatown or elsewhere in by the fatuity of the Government. After it clearly possess and has pontoised for dinance and they are under the control science and whose destore have never re- themelves are insanitary or defeative. In clean would want to put them in. Of of the Public Works Department. Weceived a medical training in accordance this case they may be of the very best course, it would to a great extent obvinte the Colony, In the speech in the all, the efforts that have been made to ob porn
The Acting Director of Fablic Works may be responsible for insanitary drains, with Western methods, the difficulties of design and workmanship, but still they the great difficulty we bava in providing for for carrying out ths Building Ascertaining the real causes of death, even carry sewage into the canal, and we have the female population. I think it is ez- Logislative Council, from which the Go-tain work for the Board, and
carry on the work, have been checkmated by (Mr Tooker)-I think, sir, if you will allow but
tremely likely that a very great many AP vernor quotsa these words, he also said it the Government, not once but many times. me, the miuute of Mr Francia, on the Ordinance the Fublic Works Department in cases where the deceased was attended no poner to stop that
Hon. Ho Kai-Ask the owners to drain plications would some Ins We must
either now lay down roles and regulations cortainly is the day of the Government Whenever the Sanitary Board has striven circulating cover demands a law remarks is responsible. But the P. W. D., as far as by a Chinese practitioner; can be easily
de any work, the heads of Government from me, inaamook so he tries to throw I know, have no power to enter into that conceived But these difficulties are still into other places.
or eay that wo will not grant permission to to take care that owing to the want of
wholly or partly, on the houses for the purpose of ascertaining their further moreased when is often the
have water-cloante. We may allow them at hotels, publia institutions, schools, do, but should not be able to do anything. If an Public Works
We may draw the line and my wa won't known disregard of all sanitary priuciples insanitary drain was complaised of, the mind Me Francis, air, that the P.W.D., has attempt to carry out the provisions of the attendance, and the information, on which Health Ordinance or the Building Or the cause of death is registered, is de Dinator of Public Works repudiated all only to deal with the erection of now
permit them to Chinese. Mr Leigh's motion is not, understand it, that no mers by the Chinese community and their peau- attempts to trespass on his pressrye. In-houses. All those houses when aracted ars dimance would require fures times the sired from the person reporting the
rule, is not able to give soox's COMPLAINT AND TITH SEPARATZ. staff either the Public Works Department death, who, ng clean. ller made of life, I say it is the duty of stances of this bare occurred during the past perfect labin Works Department may or the Sanitary Board at prosent pusauss very necurate net tot innted Indi
water closets be allowed to any one, but that Consideration of a letter from the Gor more applications we must decide on cartalz before we go any further and grant any the Government to take care the health of month, and yet the prevent High Priest of the
Public Works Department refuses to give the take As regards she construction of saw I beg to propose that the minute of the disease which terminated fatally.
ildsined and the "asparate" syrtet, and also incidentally by the residence of the Chinese amongst at brought about through any of its complaints can hardly imagine that Mr Francis was mittee of three to prepare the answer death is classed as
undiagnosed," which accounts for there to the nuisance complained of pear
Surgeon Major James I think the earth Why this duty has not been thoroughly re- The Banitary Board has sever really unaware of this fact it seems to me to be submitted to the Gozacnor.
Mr Leigh seconded
buing n number (813) of deaths Mesara Saszoon's offices at the foot of Fee-system is very much preferable in a tropical cognised 1 am at a loss to conceito. I superceded the Director of Public Works that Me Francis's ratearks would lead one
The Captain Superintendent of Police I classed under that heading than may perhonen Lane, was postponed.
climato and more especially when you hara straid it will be found out that, as in many and the Colonial Surgeon, and it is well to to believe that in his opinion no sction of
not a very full supply of water. The water other uses, it is a case of divided respon puiat pul again, for the enlightenment of the the Government or of an official of the would only add to the remarks of Mr hage appear in places where the local oir
At Taitam sews to frequently run short, and wibility.'
LODE be proceeded to Governor and his advisers, that the report. Government is justified unless Mr Francis Francis, which I have not haud entirely camanos ara different from those of Hong- my roport for 1892. remarks will abitat band of the cosponsibility rested of the Colonial Surgeon of 1874, and Mr thinks fit to allow the light of his keen (having arrived land as justice to this also be found on the same queation, and if plication for permission to treat water- drains which could not be flushed thoroughly great dangor if you bad
on him, and, no doubt, proved to his own
Osber: Chadwick's report of 1892-both intelligonca and of his approval to shine in my minute; I would in
Board say that it is not fair for the Govern- membars care to read then they can be closets,-
I am distinctly against water-losets except Mr Loigh-1 should like to say a few under very exceptional circumstangas. The satisfaction that by no passibility could he be expected to know that there was existense-provided sufficient work to go on
are there touched upon. I may mention that
bour another thing If you get the single iarasitary house in the Colony, or with if any Governor had a serious thon, ht memorandum on the subject was would opan this Board. The Government is a
continuous system, and you cannot confine esveral years ago Di Dantlie, Mr McCallam, this Enard it would appene that all applica that much a thing as overcrowding sxinted
putting the Colony into sanitary cendi. you kindly read it again 1
The President road the minute. Government responsibilities within the ps-and myself dorated a great amount of time tions for water-clonots, if made in proper Harbone phisoned it is a bad businem, in Taipingshan.
of throwing out
tion. As the Colonial Surgeon pointed Wo.. havo
Mr Francis These are really only a riods of tenure of office of successive Gover and palienes trying to improve the manner form, were granted. Now, I wish to point whereas if you get the exereta serried away, no intention
There is no out what this would mean in the long ra, more especially if it is paid for, it is much night's meeting, a Com
think might | nora,
nora, and it is my humble opinion, although of the registration of diseases. all the blame apon the Governor. It
of the Sanitary Board, tem- portion of the reasons which would be absurd to expect the Governor posed of Mr. de Dinapress and Mr fairly be assigned if an adequate answer am a Government official and should not doubt about it there is still great room for is I cannot think the members of this better. Of course, as Mr. Chadstick said, Hongkong har of s Colony-aves of such a small Colony Mr. J. Ede, reported as recently as Septem- and I presume the Government want an perhape say so, that it in the duty of improvement, but, the subject is an exceed Board have given the question the con- there is a good Boour in
ber, 1893, that nearly all the houses in adequate answer--to the question submit Governor when he takes up office to make fogly dilionit one sad one which will require sideration it deserves. As far as I can boar, but I doubt if that would obviste the there to no painable reason why he should street, First, Second and Third i ted to the Board is sent. There is no kimasif acquainted with the history of a great amɔdnt of once and attention before scortain there ars at present unmething | dangor at all. In the harbour 'at Malta it Colony and the history of every it can be estizfactorily dealt with. I think like 200 water-closate in dab in the Colony, is a very great danger. I should be sorry Streets were in a dilapidated and insanitary doubt about it in the world that it is a sury not make himalt acquainted with the work cont
bare. sondition. The floors were reeking with earitrus and important questi a for contide question that is likely to mop up, and more
& number of which, however, have never to see the water closets generally introduaed
The President Are you speaking to a of the various departments. It difficult th
The drainage was very bad; smells ration at the present moment-how it is especially with the history of the Statute
been sanctioned by this Board.
The Colonial Surgeon-I think the water to see how a Governor could otherwise ob-
*0* } abominablo,' That report went before the that during the existence of this Board no book; and I agres wish Mr Francis that if
Mr Francis-I beg to propose that the motion?
closete should be the szcaption and confided M houses have been condemned as uninhabit the Government had borne in mind the
Leigh-I am going to make a definito entirely to large buildings such as Motels, tain sufficient knowledge of the Colony here
one present Governax, it be presumed, is appointed to govern. An the Captain Bap What action, if any, did he lake? It
able, and no houses have been reparted Crown Lands Resumption Ordinance, they question be allowed to stand over, as we
school, hospital, and so on. Fer erintendent of Police said at the Sanitary not scenery to quote sections or sub-
uninhabitable, and yet as soon as the possibly would not have fallen into what I have subjects of more importance before molien.
The President-What in your motion!
golf Loan only say that I would not live Mr Leigh-Is it usually necesary to siste in hones that had a water closet. If I Board tasting last night, the Government sections of Ordinances. He is known to plague broke car so many houses have been regard as an error of judgment in irping to the Board. I beg to propose that the
did, all I should do would be to zes there iss noctinuous system, and you who possess powers that would enable him, found to be uninhabitable and have been throw responsibility for the inmoitary con-
The Colonial Surgeon-Yes, we have the motion first
The Presidentey,
And conâine Government responsibilities
was proper provision to avoid salsace, the periods of tenure of offiou of successive if he were so disposed, to deal with in condemned and have been closed as snio-dition of vertain houses upon this Board. Papers be laid on the table.
habitable. Of it arises from one of Anybody who has lived in the Colony quite enough on our hands just now, Of course, it was
Mr Leigh-I am going to propors That the water closet as far as I was concerned of the Crows Linda Resumption Ordinance, Governors. Throughout the whole of this sanitary dwellings, regrettable plague business it may safely be not to be expected that the reports of two causes the neglect of those whose duty for the last five years, knows the history have one remark to make. It is impossible
cafused for the present, sad that that. The down pipes ars as a rule fright- As the President closets sath humble bitizens as Mr Humphreys and it was to ascertain the stats of the houses of t official reports of tks Calanial Surgeon and houses, or eles because there was ao proper predecessor had not gone away; that Ordi- says, in many of the dextbs we have to depend a Committee of three be appointed to gene ful. self for ability and bard work more than-Mit
Mr Tooker big to join issue wit the May, and it is refreshing to meet with one
the Colony's Sanitary experts were over- and adequate organisation to enable the names would have been put into practical upon the reports of people of the house, rally consider the question of water-closets
authorities to ascertain the actual state of operation, and probably Tai-ping-ahan at any rate we have to depend upon the and recommend on what conditions all previous speakers. I think it is not at all spoak
ใบ futuro. official at least who is not afraid
reports of Chinese doctors, and most of such permite should be granted
proved that the Chinese would water
adopt the house. Of cours conear most would be now a Mudel Settlement. his mind, instead of striving to aid the fouled or entirely neglected.
Teking other dip into the past, we
minetes da The Colonial Surgoon-I would like to them have had next to no aducation at all. As I was saying, there are about 200 olceste, in fact so far as my experiehoe goes Gorerament in its miserable And pitiable
piclable would advise Governor Robinson, if he strongly with one of the
I don't think they over would. The view I attempts to cast
cast its skin of responsi
is still dispssed to enlarge his know this paper, that no neglect or carelem-ask one question-whether the reports fur. Of many of the death there is no report; water-closets in use in the colony
as forwarded the bodies If the Governor did know
pot
powers nished to the Sanitary Board ars the exercise of bility.
dalled situated in hotels, clubs, and offices whare in the colony not to allow them to use water Fowledge of the Colony he is sent val to
Hospital. Now, if the condition of Taipingsban, he sugh
25. cation for the ignorance of the Govern the old days before the reconstitution of in European cedical practitioner to they can hardly be dispensed with. It is closets if they like. I think each cass the Government Gazelle of Novembar 23, Hansard of the few years prior to em- 1878. In the
ld how often these are used, but it will be dealt with by the Board as it arises. The debate in the g
Legiela-ment or the loaction of the Government, the Board any report of any importance was diagnose what these corpses died of, difficult without actual observation to know should stand upon its own merits and be out of ten he wou found in private houses that the closet in Government will, I think, have to face the ing the Governorship of the Colony hetive Qouncil on gool extensiou,
Mr W. who are primarily responsible for the state sent to the Governor for his information. in nine cases
to refuso to certify unless uber I ask this because on 22nd September, 1893 have yast number I auk
If used for
one purpose or another twice every diffically of the water supply sooner or later would have uplarged his gutomatorialeswink made several references to the of affaim and the existence of a visten
If he had looked through the
he would have had on repert of the Colonial Surgeon and the of houses whose drainage was soriously Mr. Humphreys and Mr Ede furnished a made a post mortera examination.
That they were badly con report on the state of houses in High you had a post mortem examination on the day for each person in the house. Now, and there should be no objection on that tatute book, tion that all was not well in the Chinage Surveyor General on the insanitary acted, that they wore overcrowded and Street, First Second, and Taint Structs hundreds of Ohiness who die here, I don't if this Board continues to grant pets to i
dition of the Chinese quarter-a report it portions of the city.
the sourge of time that water-closets wore cousidered
unsuitable in story respect was brought owing to my complaint about the fat bail know what the effect would be on the com. every one who applies it would be found in horrible to publish- two
They munity. The preambla of the Crowe Lands
and supplemented the report with statements officially to the notios of the Glarezamesting, and they described the houses,
The President Do you acoond Mriverent. They have already been intro-
Dr Hartigan-In answer to Mr Tooker 1 Resumption Ordinance sets forth that like the
duced into public schools, and the most following:
by the Colonial Surgeon years ago, and said, Nearly the whole of the houses are in hereas the dwelling houses on bertsio
No. 51, Esst
Street, Taipingshan, ground again by Mr Chadwick in 1882, and again most dilapidated and insanitary condi Francis's motion?
with filth 29 feet strobes locg, 10 feet 1 inch later when he was here a few years ago. tion. The Roots were reekingshemin-Certificates are frequently refused at home the first plsce I agaert that if the excrats of the Legislative Council, tơ rains the ques The Colonial Surgeon-Yes, I second it move would be to put them into public ta should like to say that in 1885 I took
great interest in the separate system and I trince, and so portions of land under loase from the
the thing would go on. Now, urged Mr Bell-Irving, whe was a member The drainage was cary bad, smell Crown, especially in the City of Victoria,
wide, 11 fee. Ligh, four of mud 2 feet 611 those documents and papers are 'oo are of insanitary construction as rogarda izahes holow street and side obanuel, kit. record, and that fact must have been pre-able. In some of the houses there were dark in the same uld like to move on from a popolation of 92000 persons in tion. 140 did us in a sort of way, and the
chen 7 feet by 10 fact with a sleeping room seat to the Governor, and must have boopholer in which there were quantities of de- in it, no snake dus, & back door and a hole clearly before the Gaveruur and his Exa- compaing and puurid meat, fat, and nes, Acoudmont. I think that the excuse that poured into the harbour it will be a most drainage system was carried. But at that we bave ten much to do is no excuse at all, of view, and the only remedy would then Cobnial Secretary, Dr. Stewart, to the effect dangerous proceeding from a sanitary point time we had a mome. from the tizen foot square 8 phambers or partitions, 7 cativo and Legislative Councils when the and in one of them filled with me gota.
ought not to be considered so lo an in- families. 18 people icoluding 12 temales Own Tauds Resumption Ordinance of The aleash from these plates was unbear- and children, a loft & feet high, containing 1989 was pesad. Otherwise that Ordin-able. This is a description not only of the porinut matter of this sort. Therefore, I be to put in a large intercepting sever rua- that the separate grater was wat intended
lived.
beg to propose that the matter be referred ning the entire length of the City and car to bring on the introduction of erster closets. 6 more people. Raut $7.00 per month, ance would not hars' been passed; it was fat bailing but where the pinkabited to a sub-committec who might consider the ried out to a pumping station samo miles That was my opinion.it would be the
Dr Hartigan-Are these houses-
City I would be interesting to know if the Chinese landlords, tenant 6 years in posses passed on the presumption that there were
raaiter fully, and then if it is found im- out of the Oit
raination tha
sad if you have Governor ever asked whether or not that sios, sub texants of several years' aucupa a great number of houses in the colony
that the Government The Colonial SurgeonYes, and they had possible to deal with the question at the
to rule 16 of the rules of debate, providing the water closet system you will choite all power of resumption had been exercisedtion. The cook house leaks, the house basin auch & state
present moment it on stand over. whether or not the dwelling houses of not been repaired during tenanoy, water ought to resume them, destroy them, plague patients in then to any extant,
The Lating Director of Public Werke- Hop.
the drains and you will render lham mush That is only
Mr Leigh That will not stop me from more taal than it present. To say that wa insanitary construction had boua demolish omen in at the door. There is a wall in the and reconstruct the area.
most important that washould have some ed and replaced by healthier dwellings-
have water e The Pronident. I have no desire to stop number of water closete is, I think, absurd. enough to finsh even a moderata then by the very phesseology Fraucie's remarks. He says that the Public reliable roburns, and while we are doing all what I want to It in 7 fest down the water which stands Government t ordinates in respect of
of these inquiries, foot 3 inches deep. The sub-temante are of that Ordinance assumed to itself the Works Department are wholly responsible that we can to combat the plague, at the And if the Governor had displayed a bricklayere, hawkers, ship-coglies.
book, duty of looking aftur the state of the colony for the existence of an intuitary condition same time we should take time by the fore. you, but you must not read your speech. Only the other ding I was at the Peak, and
Bir Leigh--I should be sorry to say sta
examined the flashing-tank that is supposed energy and pushed his inquiries fur and beat builder; two of them do not and deciding on the resumption of any of mezzanine floors and cret loits. Now, as lock and provide means to warn us of any You can read axinets, ur refer to notes.
to flush the drains up there, and I found i would be have found? Ha thor, would have found that in 1877, Six
Sir Arthur
Bookhoare.
station on the Eanitary Board; the clear enough on that responsibility
that think this question may be referred to a intercepting ever and pumping Kennedy, at his farowali banquet, eaid, 10, Lower
Lasar Row, Seamen's Board. Ordinance asid whousrer the Guvatuorio where the Hann rat point. It says that the insanitary condition of the town. Your town and city share bean badly bailt, ing Blouse, licensed for 45 min, 18 bunks Council decided that any homes were in the mezzanine doors are injurious to health commitias who might want some little would cost, to say nothing of the annual water enough. At the present rate of pro- have been laid out in a faulty mannor vi
witho
an issavitary or mainhabitable condition they shall report and the Director of Public tima to consider it, and after the report is upkeep and cost of pumping. Besides this gress we shall soon bave to do as has been 3 jaches by 13 an a most nefarious system, if ayatom it can be fest. 6 inches by 3 feet 9 inches high... One and it was advisable in the general public Works shall durva notices. Therefore, if sent in, if the matter is not an urgent ons, we should lose the sum of 123,800 which suggested-use all our water for flushing called, of drainage, but all that has not bean banks 5 fost 6 inches by 3. fest 3 inches interest to resume them then the Govers the Sanitary Board does not report, the the Board can take sufficient time to con- is paid annually for the privilege of remov- to Mr Tooker, who seems to think that the
Public Works Dapartment cannot take
Therefore, I beg to second the ing the night soil, which sum, I am of water closets is the pannors for alt our ille. But with the
sider it. resoma overlooked. You have officers present on
Torka-No, high. 28 men a the next for, 163 cubic mant should
auendment that the question be referred opinion, could be materially increased by
The Acting Director of Publio We the this occasion who have gone into that
change of Governors and/Colonial Secre- action
proper public latrines, which fest
ich no, I didn't say that, Mr FrancisThe question is not whether to a sub-committes. taries and practically every Goromment tusavoury question; who know all about
He also quoted the following from a report oficial in the colong she had seything to they are insanitary, but of their being in
The Captain Superintendent of Foliosis work the Government ought to put in Dr Hartigen--Mr Tooker says it would il, and one day possibly you will know all
made in 1873 by Mr J. M. Pros: about it; but there is very little use in
As inapeation of the Chinese districts do with preparing that Ordinaase or who excess of the allowance of the Building Or. I agree with Mr Tooker, and I would sug-hand stoxice. There is also another very be a hardship to prevent Europeans ferm
gest that the Registrar General, De He important
at question in connection with the
Colony, filteen years and have got on with the question of water. The usual fushing this hardship pretty well
Mr Tooker-it in a matter of opinion, consisting of Mr. Francia, Bergson James, Mr Leigh I propose that a Committeš and mysit, be appointed.
Course
to make the
I
said that no official has distinguished him- Mr Ede would receive much notice when the and correo: the defects to be found in the land everybody knows that if the Qvernor's ing komsation anything approach. Į this and all other applications for water-ld be entirely ignored "except. la' son to
to
bea
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any
registration.
At
to have known. If he had rend the of govern, to read the report published in the Bosed wight possess is any ti to the Governor for his information. In Tone Wimply brought to the present time. Many of these closets are take is that it is a hardship on the Europea
conditions of air and light, it is expedient that 'the Governor should be empowered to seguire or resume such lands and build- ings compulsorily with a view to the erec tion of improved houses or dealings thereon.'
was
inor
defootive,
still 7
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Mr Tooker-I
in
ore.
Mr Franois-Better wait till the improved
water supply comes before saying that, th
The President called Mr Leigh's attention pretty free from typhoids We have been
and what replies be recoived from his sub-use, und 8 more in its immediate vicinity. as short a time back as 1859, and the Allow me to hay something about Mr. Ho Kai....I bee to second that. It that a member must bot ́read his speech.
little
come home at
themselves in the others nightly wash houses. They did not throw day of tho a master of fact the Building Ordinance is future epidemio which might arise from guess how many lakhs of dollars who had been out of beesuse there was
below, roam
thera
man.!
per man."
37 icat
them.
any
erection of
mot
draîne, and drink bser. I speak in ontwer
discloses the phenomenon of a dense mass of had any knowledge of the state of affairs dinance.
the whole Mr Leigh-With discussed and to be tafod about whause you { peoplo heeding together in dark and ill-ven- which made it appost ears, Buti Tänker has said herence to what Me Kai, and Dr Hortigan be appointed' as the granting to all of water-elosets, sod that in using water alosats, but I have bem in the
thing was completely lost sight
them to
to
might have remembered commites.
was that any insanitary conditions were infastles, but we searooty think he made they had no kaawa sexveen foot of spro9 abera or below it.
allowed to remain And
have been allowed
plague
they
Bot other
hég to state
re-
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mauned PW.D. the complaint should
Han, Ho Kai-1 bag to ascond that. The motion was oueried.
CORRESPONDENCE,
er-closets in use. These figures are of us know what we have to expect. Haro attenks na myself and on my Department
Mr Francis-Auting Department course based on the assumption that the the desperate hasta manifested of late to Mr Tooker-I am bo
antire population is using water-closets, tambla the stones in in front of Podder as as executive but they will suffice to show how important Strest,
Is it not time for a public weeting, or
throwing nuisances before the public to be hare not the possible means of romedying filated dwellings totally devoid of drainage.
The sendment to appoint a sub-com-tank in this Colony contalus two gallons, but from recent experimenis at boms it has them at once. It is better that these things and where the house sewage, kitchen refuse, for Government officii to ray that he that the Building Ordinance provider that
quantity is insuficient should be talked of; should be well card saliage are generally kept standing in- know nothing aboutit-in his personal ca mezzanine font shall have in every room mittes at once was carried by 6 to 2.
A little discussion ensued as to Dr James' been found that sidered and planned and remedied sa quiokside each house in a tub from which is stolpacity, yes, he may know nothing about ita clear space of nine vertical foot where
The Fresident. It is ant stated ac in the such floor extends over two thirds or more reply to Dr Wantlis's letter having been in create a proper flash, and sanitary sa- by as possible, but time most elapse before red an+fluvium that would ters the stomach
gineers am now recommending that
dist the than two-thirds, and of six vertical fest published before it reached the Board. the sanitation of this Colony can be com of a carrion crow. It is true that the vital minute.
Bushing tank to water-closete should con where it extends ever two thirds or less of ; it is in very good bauda.' ploted
tain not less then four gallons; but evan He Francis-Of course no It says, the length of the room.' energy of the occupants of sob places is o Wasters wore in very good hands at that lowered, and their olfactory nerves sither so That no report had ever bean made list that in the lest three weeks I have been latfug to the Bowrington Canal, which the Colony of two gallona, spd allowing The Secretary sad correspondence re-taking the size at present la use in the time, and in all haman probability would blunted or so supernaturally fortified against such was the atata of things. But it was the busily employed on this plague basiness, Government undertook to attend to, after that, for one have been remedied had the Governmental the offence as to render them enllons about daty of the Government as a whole, when and 16 point out hundreds of housus strong complaints from the Board.
reason or another, it nrad twice policy of the Oplogy been as continuous in it, bat outwithstanding, the germs of disease they had notios and bad knowledge and where the mezzanino door vitende over
every day for every person; Mr Tooker - think the notes of Dr multiply this by the 265 days in the practice hs it is in theory. But Governor luck thers, and are being gonerated by a prepared the Ordinance in 1835 enabling
WHERE ARE WE NOW) umors than two-thirds, and there are not six Hartigan and Mr Francis call for soms re- Pope Hennessy, in portance of his system pernicious and revolting system which
e knowledge-1, xak la fi act on the
marks from me. Both these gentleman seons habitants and we have the enormous amoun
year and by the population of 220,000 in-
To the Editor of the 'OBRA MAIL" of carrying favour with the Chinese, on-
for them four or five
Mr Francis Well, we are clearing them to chuckle over their notion that the Board of 381 million gallons used yearly for water- or to say that all out ourselves, now mençe bir intermedling, and the resule gently demands reform
Hongkong, 20th July, 1834. has done something. I am glad if it has closets only, or more than the entire con We are perhaps doing the Governor an
had no
Six-I think the reply of the Acting Ui The President-Before putting the mono one can be more pleased than myself. tents of the Tytan revoir, and this when rector of Public Works to Mr Leigh never acted becks they had to remain, fill the prevent outbreak of himself acquainted with "the historics] - notice to set them in motion? It is for the tion moved by Mr Francis I should like to 1 Bat Mr Francis minute (that with an over: our water supr. is insufficient for the question with regard to carrying the desa ferner Robinson will look up Shortly after his arrival here, be boasted boada of,ple in motion, to supervise the ference to what the Captain Superthton-gaver have bugoga necessary) is a direct of the place with only 200 outfalls into deep water is sufficient to... Jek-
agus caled attention to them.
If port of this important question before ad- | Government to pet italf in motion and to make one remark, and that is with
dressing his minute to the Sanitary Board. the
the different departments and 合照 Government Gazette fox July 27, 1678, acquaintance with the Colung the that they do their work, and if a Governor dent of Fulice has said. He stated that the Government to endeavouring to throw he wil bind there a memorable padvantage of which be has not betrayed does not do that he is nseless. To attempt its responsibility apon the Sanitary Heard.
humble memorial from
to the present time. It would not s land owners and residents, and the no less have been
a bad thing for himself f * Luxt winate attempts to throw the blame Now, as President of this Board I think it officer on hi Board! It seems to me this question is merely looking at it from a memoravio : Hatement by Governor. Hea and it woold certainly have been a good the Sanitary Board, to pretensi is only right that I should say that we have that Frensis whenever he thinks be a question of water supply. I therefore beg memorial to the Secretary of State to pro
rence ou the part of the Government is bassy regarding the hygienic of thing for the Colony, we feel sure, if our certainly either fair noc
resciable, nothing. moke-boles At that fins Mr J. M. Price, Governor had endeavoured to keep up the car thie Board is concerned we the Government is attempting to do any the opportunity maker a target of the propose the resolution I have already test against such bisiant offcialism f
Director of Publio Werks and his Depart read, because I think this is a question Then there is the case of the Bowringiod, Surveyor General, took exemption to the onlinuity of the pre-Hebacdey age, in had not the power. The only part of thing of the kind.. En this aïbate we are ent. The fact is Mr Frangis calls every which ought to go to a sub-committee. plazis of certain Chinese houses on the stand of falling into the easy-going Sanitary Board Ordinance to which their Fransis has moved the appointment of a very interesting to know what his opinion think that the arguments of Mr Leigh are as Mr 8. Brown's time, in your columana
Canal. Iemember reading some strong asked questions which question Mr one to task but himself, and it would be
Mr Francie second that motion. Iremarks on its insanitary state as far back grotted that houses bailt in accordancs with raethods which have characterised the attention is called is the clans giving the Committes to reply to, but to say that be- is of his duty as a member of this Boast. very asgest indeed. If this application is them would be unhealthy, and made us later yours of the Gmy's history. It power to make by-laws with referense to use we are naked s
Truly there is something of the nature of Enations for improving the ventilation of is unfortunate for Sir William Robinson, nighaoitable house. In section 13-tou the houses. The mamorialists objected be
its responsibility is during 1893 there were 25 meetings of the regular form, must equally he granted, on markYours faithfully,
Sanitary Board, out of which he attended the person expressing his motion was then put and carried..
willingness to requirements of Chinese tenants in a astle during his tenure of office: Mr Chadwick Ordinancs are. (Extract read.) So long what I do not think can be accepted.
comply with the regulations. Although it Mr Francis suggested that the Captain destory manner, and from their point of predicted a serious spidemic about this view seemed in no way deficient. In rogard me, but experts, ure so often, at fault which defined what constituted an un- Superintendent of Police, the Colonial { quite bears on the Bowrington Canal. these applications must focrease, and in The President-I don't know that this may not sanat to much for a year or two, to applying the spass fir the admission of 24. Sie William Robinson might have inhabitable house, or House | Sargoon, and the Hov: Ho Kai be appoint Mr Tooker-I don't say it does, but time by far the greater partion of the town light and sie which is required by their his. Kitle day following the sari-somache presbition of their pas as quot, is wased the Committes to reply to the minuts when Mr Francis is always attacking other houses would be found to be fozalabed with habits, ideas and wants. The
on pro lest routine of Government House. If out of the power of the Sanitary Board,
ABYLIE ON DEATH,
people I am justified in saying that he is at water closets. I think it is a seriosts ass DEATH RETURNS. seeded blandly, Now cheese babita, although he had made no effort to saddle the holding a simply delegated sucharity, to
Considerable discussion followed on a
tion whether under, any ofronmstancos it is: your memorialists are given to understand Sanitary Board with the Government's make any by-laws on the subject, Bylaw letter from Dr Danilie (published yester-get at in
The President-I think what we want to advisable to allow right soil to into the that they are condemned by the more responsibilities--which he only shares with presuppose the existence of laws, and the day) calling strenition to the fact that the the Bowrington Canal. recent rules of western science, are, some of the altofals by whom he is sat- Government had made no laws which do sad abted insanitary state of Tai-ping-shan sit down,
master of fact, the outcome of
rounded he might have escaped with the sued what was to be considered an upha was not shown by the registestions of Jongthened experience among the Chi-
had done so then they ness of living in large, and crowded entire sympathy of the community. But bitable house. If
reliabla, that
properties
on.
the
whatever before as to "show tox
in
Cause the risps provided for the ordinary perhaps, that all this trouble should arise au coa exactly what the terms of the mout le trying to whirkn the Govern- Now..I find in looking up the records granted, overy application: coming up radical decomposition", in the state of Don-
petition
and
managed, with ordinary Inok, ts
425
there were
no laws in existence
halisation, or authorized
fault as well as others.
SANITAS.
THE 'SELKIRK CASE.
To the Editor of the Cama Matin'
July 20, SE-The petition to His Excellency the
sition and are a deep rooted as many the moment he commenced, whitewashing the Sanitary Board might have been proner.deathe, as it must be if the retums were that it is to be pus la order, and there is disagreeables, but logs us in | viour of. Bir Edson, Orawo, we fear therm
of their social customs; and they
the
the
operations
upon bimasif at the expensely called upon to make
Board, the
beem
the only embodiment of musicfgal by-lawa kayə not: DNA
Hie
give power
to carry t FBAJOD
Mr Tooker-I! I am out of order I will public drains, whether in this diluste sád Governor on behalf of the late master and in this colony the bucket system, with a mate of the British ship Selkirk will be due preosutions taken of course, is not far open for signature early, sest work ab the
far. M. A. Rooms, Tasses The Colonial Surgeon-I understand and away
alma, popin có làm the baske
The eystom has its syidence in support can be meetin
од the whole
If what we here is correct of the bebas nothing more to say about it.
worked extremely well. The Presiden The alt is being re- large revenue, and if water closets are to be a great probability of his ending!
Na daya permitted those water, ölosets, musk Races – inja a lunatin asylum, de Colonial Surgeon-I marely observe sarily be connected with the separate syn- Some of the late crew were perfectly that it is not a question for the Banitary tem. The whole of this enormous quantity willing to re-attip, saying they had been Board to find out it is putant to avery one of night soil masat be poured into the harbour well treated and well fed on board.
ho passes over the Bridge; the Sanitary or else there must be special provision made. The shipping community are asanimo
It
turned out that Dr - their blandishmants so moonch a helpless body is the Sanitary | law into effect, and the the Rok 1 Osatlis's first Jester was a huge joke.
The Presiden Indeed! Will you ex- Governoeiples, as
that he agreeing with administration the Colony possesses, it was under hit and ander a considerable number plain it to us then?
blandly
the grounds necessary to seguire
the at o
Ordinance deal. the
·sovaladed : 2 glad to learn that gorljenoy had for pleading ignorance of ing with varioua: UNACKETS, MA this may burator and eloxerar taon hổ now finds Board only brings to notice things bias for removal from the colony in some wale admitting an assault was committed;"
ether subsections of
was bocaust the
Me Trangia The joke was that Dr the memorialists could see their way to the condition of the
Candie thought Colony
We do not Legislature
trate not
swers Tory much conforming to the essentially Chinese style know what seletive values the Colonis! What they profums to give is the power to of dwelling, common both to Canton sad Office places on facepacity and ignorance. make laws, which is where wires, and not be elually are, and when ha stated that it are noi right under the eyesight of every other Hongkong, and which, while sconen sie
Law From the first moment of the axin desnot appear in the statistice that the one. It lies been made a matter of public stars and the quantity of water to be in thinking the punishment excesive.
necessarily expended on the ayılem is ter
Thanking you on behalf of the coUSTODE= space to the utmost, admits of a certain smount of light and rentiation through fala Justice Flawkins, who was hearing a once of this foard, its right to maks by·laro drains had soything to do with the page complaint lots of times, but they get no no beyond anything that the colony has it inity for giving publicity to par leikari, • ike small square, spices" left at the bank; case in the Queen's Bench Dirijon, to was not suficiently Lali to upfrom was tans the statístion were fico taken of it, In the newspapers you lita power to supply. To give you ɑzo lilas” We are, your obedient sesvantage
when it was pointed out that the were expected to this sort of
onfed smoke-holas.*
Hid down for the water supply, gives fiva
allogs a head; sosport an spio
bear continually of the Bowrington, Canal, frating, as of the limitations sud enler Set the pearled to a neas; You seem very fond Thomaston to Chinese habita and them of taking Lap mo tell you that time hero paahto us to do so, the defect was admitted perfectly useless and that they would not and the state it is in
mole, the winch fade has ported le yary valuable, and vielle you are silking by the Attorney General himself; that is to his sond letter in the My Tooker-The nuisance is bound to hace during the let bo motiu, a costs about hall by crown every minute, why to the beat of my recollection amend the or his and letter to written for continge unless the desiar which lead into
|the parpons of explaining the point: we cans! are connected with the pan Bowers, meate were introduced into the Ordinanca by the want of supervision on Some one will have to pay ti."
in to arest cater sloants in Calices bouer
where the Water Authority has fixed the
J. WATSON,
Master, British 8.8. Bar
W. BURGOYONE, Magter, Britück 8,8. Zer