FRIDAY, JUNE 22, 1894-
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THE SANITARY BOARD. DISCUSSION ON THE SEPARATE DRAINAGE SYSTEM.
THE CHINA MAIL.
As brily reported last night, a discs..ment should start and poi in the demins | was diverted from the storm-water drains. ! some of the members ars as to their ropan-
ment.
whole plus. There is no pos to compel by which the storm water by which alons the better. To say that the Sanitary Board has said I may inform him that I would no| Mr Francis-This nuisance, if it exious, manhole to ventiis oronted by the Pablie Works Dopart- the householders to connect their house these large drains were kept in order, se- is not responsible for dirt and the removal mora think of closing drains with the new apatom. The Goverdarling to Mr Chadwick's own atalamont, of it shows pretty clearly what the views of late a war than I would dream of flying.
The Acting Director of Pablia Works The President-Thom expressions of opi- There has been
nion by the experts on the Board are high moved and De Hertigan secunded that a a coraplate want of siblities. right den away.
tendency letter should be addressed to the Govern Mr Francis-The Board has extremely H-ly entertaining, bat they have The Acts. Director of Fublic Works-The cammontones in the expertiis exercised
to draw us off from the subject. It is not meat calling upon them to abate the mis that Menara Marty and d'Abbadie, hapesion took place in the Sanitary Board ovor
is practically completo nohy the head of the Public Works Depart-mited powers, the Acting
reparate system
The President The Sanitary Board has creditable to us that we should have appliance it it existed. built a small steamer, the Bao-ha, for the the following letter from
far as the public sewers at lost. The west. While one of tho sub-departments of
The same coures was adopted with re- mail and passenger service on the Red Colonisi Secretary (Hon J. B. Stewart question is what has been done to convost that Department has been absolutely closing wera which it has not exercised to the antions like this addressed us, and that we
the hubes drains to the public rewers.up the mouths of these drains, another do- fullest extent; but if I am to continue any should take no notion, Are we to go on gard to a complaint from Mr A. G. Gordon River at Tonkin. The steamer is expected Lockhart):---
considerable amount partment has been turning the house sow- longer as a member of this Board it shall with the remedy wo bave already proposed, about the Bowrington Caual, There is no deuht,
An application for permission to con- A house ор to prove valuable for quick transit between
The Acting Colonial Secretary, under of unmitigated twaddle talked about the age into them and making them feto oess be no fault of mine if the responsibilities or are we to adopt some other remedy ↑ Mt Haiphong and Las-kai.
date of 16th June last, wrote as follows to suparate system. Nine out of every ten pools. Ia Bonham Strand West, we have
faliest extent. With these remarks I beg three contributing causes we are attasking Robinson Hoad was rofased, Mr Leigh, Mr Francia and the Colonial Sur- who disonss it don't know what
Mr DURING the past fortnight several well-the Acting Secretary of the Board :--
Mr Leigh-I think this is the first and geon opposing the application, I am directed to state for the informon by a sparate agatam sad are the exporta large drain, while receiving drainage from to put the motion that the letter from the one
sery many houses-and while draising large Colonial Secretary be referred brok to the known firms of compradores hare consed to
tion of the Sanitary Board that in flie who have spent their whole lives both in
gon at onca. The other points open up a into the harbour, and if the water-alasote ing to be set aside because one or two notes separated system-has been setually built more definitely what they do wish to ascer sirable to allow the continuance of the use of alarm hare bees suaded about the up with earth at its outfall to the level of is from the Sanitary Board in regard to large qucation wh ob I do not think can be were largely distributed it would not be tackled ut ono or even at ten sittings of lang before the harbour became polluted. the Board.
in addition to the fact that the revenuer 32. BASOON, SONG AND QO'S of storm water drains sa Bowers, where it is avoidable, and I no,
Mr Franois-With reference to what Me would suffer by the abolition of the bucket COMPLAINTS. be so good as to express moat alle medical mes, who are worthy few days it has been dug out. That drain
Further correspondenso on the subject of May has said about Me Crook, I should system.
I This consiaded one of the longest and 1 or any other engineer was to advise in over 200 yards. There are others which corning, the Wing Wo poultry shop, Oon their opinion in regard to the steps sects-exponents of the medical profession, but it is actually filled up with sewage for tral Markot, brought an action against the bary for the completion of the reparuteglio traatment of a pation of theirs what run down from the Taipingahan | Meners D. Skissoon, Sure and do.'s com-like to make a personal explanation.
system of drainage by compelling owners would they have to say that engiover ? triet, and
offices was laid before the Board. The firm has said with respect to Mr. Urook's por Wai Loong compradore shop to recover of private property to consinet the house-I consider the whole thing in eo ridiculous, Messrs. S4153on about the drain having iteplaints us to an off.sire omell in their fully agree with with every word Bit May
wrote, under date June 6, pointing out sonal character and energy and ability.
BANKRUPTCY OF AE, SKEELS, payment for poultry supplied. The Acting drains to the public sovera without delay that I mast strongly etato that the question which remves the savage from the houses that they were advised by their arobítects | do not queslina hiz honesty in the least de-
of the separate system ng applied to the public sewors and drains has nothing to do in Toe House Lane and Daddall Streek that only the bad smells emanating from grea; but my complaint has always been The first meeting of creditors of A. E. that it te not in human nature for any man Skeels & Co was held at the offics of the Puisas Judge (Mr A. G. Wire) said this case where it is practicable.".
Appended was the following minute:--
the old storm-water drains would be Te with the Sanitary Board. That is con- There hauses are connected with the old
That is finished. The question system while the stormwater is discharging moved by the course proposent by the placed in the position of Mr Crook as a Official Receiver this afternoon. Mr Bruse
drain; and Me Bowdler
Bard, plate.
while there were two other sources subordinate in the Public Works Depart-
the Board possesses are not exerdasd to the Leigh agrees that while there are two or struct water-closets in meant magnificent illustration of it. There, a
do business, and the fokis have left the Excellency's opinion it is manifestly unde. the practice and theory of sauitary engineer-blocke of houses unconnected with the Government in order that they muy atateariest dealt with, and I suggest that waLeigh said the sewage would be discharged
Colony apparently without making the alightest provision for collecting bills or
paying dobis. In the Summary Conrt this that the Board a thorofors, to request separato systein 7 We have at this Board the Frayn, and it is only within the last the separate system of drainage.
Mr J. J. Francis, QUA special raut ing of the Board bad botter bo bulled for the
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have this complaint from outfall in front of their offdés-u drain
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stormiest meetings of the Board
publio that he honoured the same general purpose of discussing this very important arises-what baye wa te do with the jocaine to the new the area in front of of the nuisance, namely, the manhole of i ment to give advice to this Board without / Shepherd presided, and there were also pro
was his compradors, and Mr O. D. Wilkin- son, who was sitting in Court, informed the
dealer with his custom. His Lordship said it would be interesting to know who they were going to pay for the provisions receiv ed during the first wook of the carrent month. He said it was also interesting to learn that their compradoras obtained their poultry and beef from the market, and
bo propounded the problem why the customers should not deal with the poul.
Dr Hartigas, Mr R. K. Leigh and the Acting Director of Pubic Works greed with Mir Francis' suggestion.
because
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Mr Shepherd asked the debtar if he had
terer and the butcher direct, instead of Major Jime, Dr Hartigan, De o Kaiminent sanitary engineer wa abond awali Water Authority, another nsan, who in/modiate vicinity sincst impossible to work of. With reference to this sower, I said and total assets 83,300; but in the latter
through a middleman who must have bis 'aqueeze. The auggestion is worthy and of consideration in these dull needy times. His Lordship might pursue bis inquiries a little further est mortsin for the benefit of the general consumer'
of
were included book-debts which would be troated by oreditors as a set-off to cisima, to that
Mr Francis-It is a personal explanation be really some of the creditors who had
in a
how it is that compradoras' prices under-reaks of the paratu system one in apt them. Certainly, the practical part of the'discussions of this Bourd, and it in time the p. D. is nut and casinot be respon little usiness, and I am anxious that we impossible to say what all the assete might
ressive payment for the Wai Loong.
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Mr Holmes said he was informed that the
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The Captain Su-orietandent of Police-should be made at the expense of the Glo. Bire pherd advised an adjourntasat, to
of hours draina to the public sumers hard at work filing
Collugs, J. P. Cottam. D. Burjorjee, sud That is the question for the Saitary the outfall of the drain with mud
slash and turning the place into a sewage awer at the junction of Ice House bias where public opinion is onming into sent Messrs A. E. Sikaals (the debtor), H
ment. The natural tendency in Mr Crook's H. F. Carmichael (sreditors). Board.
Dr Ho Kai-Previous speakers seam pont. No wonder there are complaints Lane and the Prive, and the two gully can or with the Fablic Works Depart. Holmes (solicitor for the dakter I
The fllowing minutes were attached to ciud when a complaint is made againat kin Department minst bo to throw the the document -
any scheme of aettlement or compromise to The President-It occurred in ran that to ignore that we have amongst us about bad smells in the vicinity. There is holes at the bottom of Too He Lane. not ouly eminent dratare and lawyer want of organisatios about te Publis before calling a special meeting it would be but an emigunt engineer. We Have Mr Works Department which I do not think the
My R. E Leigh--Mr Orook still hold, blane upon some other Department. Mrsy butore the vreditors,
Mr Crook
Crook is an
an ablo and cierer young man, a good public will stand when longer, and I do not
Mr Holmes suggested to carry on the well to refer this matter to those members Leigh, who is toputed to bo
Mr Bkeels said he had no scheme to who have a special knowledge of sanitary an engineer as anyone to be found in suppose there could have been attire for and de but I am a well wreed in his profession, zealous and business and pay sineralmente.
has said about him, but I contend that he misters to bring up a report at another the Colony; and I do really think, as res illustration of the want of orgatiration and the id storm-water drain, hut I can as-energetic, and I uros with what Mir May meeting, We have a number of experts sorable me, that we should not be bound the want of commonsense about this man.sure him at at tins the onenatione
aubordinate in the Public Works De propose
Mr Shepherd sold the statement Bled on the Board-the Director of Publicly by authority, juss bec Daa hapagemoon than the arrangement pude when trom the manh lea of the now sawers are
partment whose misdeeds are complained showed total indebtedness $1.465 and £2* Works, the Colonial Surgeon, Surgem pened to have this reputation of being at the great r Cooper went away. One man sufficient to render y ofis in the in-
before and I say again that the Public and Me R. E. Leigh, and I would suggest low his wurds and be weighed down by his ret made Director of Pablis Works and his in
Dr Hartigan-There seems no doubt s
Works Department is mainly in fault. nuisance exists which should be remedied.
The President-I do not think this in a referring the maree to them in the first authority. We are all thinking men. And, no right to the seat, is stuck into the
after a'l, what anitary engineering but Council without any authority whatever-
personal explanation, The President That is aside from the The new sewers are quite as bad as the old,
put dowa 2. pusgoured ware instance and they can bring up a report to
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the outcome of medical science; and I cer
to that extent. What dividend Mr Francis Me Crook is not an inde The Acting Director of Public Works-tainly say, leaving out the question of prac question. We are now discussing soitary au far as stinks ahow ficiency. The latter ways completing the separate
a medical man, who has rotters and not pulitical matters. Please con tical engineering, |
He is interested in making ent that role you out of order. We have done very was pretty certain, though of course it was
The President--You will excuse me if I was the balance estimated to pay?
Mr Skeels said he though per cent system, and that may involve the question had a University training, would make a fire your remarks to sanitary matters. We pendent or reliable authority in such mat of additional powers to the
they to the Board in the safer sanitary engineer than the whole lot be had too many side issues brought into tors.
An eximination by some really in should do some business today. Mr Crook realise-shared, etc. There was only one way of hyo-law, & became when one
dependent person is the work, any engineer worthy of the name we hold try to improve and condas our-sible.
sanitation. setves The teria separate should be able to tackle. I protest against gat dafured at Abat.
The Captain “uperintendent of Police-1 / it be flattered, I am sure, to hear all the creditor who pressed, and he wÁI BWAY IN
good things tast have boon said about him. Canton. M&Francis-It has been urged that this
Of the debtor was entirely go so many ups' and a few downs'
system no doubt applies to the public this attempt to belittle the opinion of this drains and newera and it also applies to Bard, whia: is composed of men of caituro eeparto system should be left to the engi-am surprised that man in Mr Francis' The only fault Mr Francis can apocity in the creditors' hands, Exchange is to blame for a lot, but it is
experts who are in shergo of these prison and a lawyer to
Mr Cottam suggested that the matter surely not responsible for the alarming in-house drainage. Now, it is the question of who have passed the sugh all phases of study reside Colony, and that the publis such a libellone sapersio as the character denos
if Mr Grook. I give notice that at the plaist all the time I have been in the Board might be arranged without declaring the
debtor bankrupt. crease in compradures' price during the house drainage alons, I contend, the Board and shown themselves worthy of the trust
the power of it is a question of morensing
moto a tesolution to the effect that the duties onder this Board. If he had made only pressing creditor would willingly past year. There need to no auzioty, we anything to do with, and, therefore, of the public; 20, weigh them down by should not have a word in it,
authors,wever high or mighty, and should imagine, on the gcure of who is to the Bo that le to say, if the Boards burka discussion in that way, The resident-I ever heard a word of Board's masting a fortnight, heneo I shall of the way in which he has discharged
fr Frinois-And what I urge is that the Board have entire confidouce in Mr Oroel's any exhibition of this natural tendency to accept a compromise. Would the debtor grest So-and-so has said it, and
The Acting Director of Public Worli ba biassed, it was the duty of the Board to prefer to carry on business, with the His not sufficient powers at prosant to deal
with the house drainage of the Cotuuy-the one it! I protest against that, and what-great Mr Omer and his system are not so hemosty.
call attention to the fact. Members will sreditors' essent, so as to make something Strive at I hope completely trustworthy and he has not matt- Lordship may keep his mind easy. The sooner it gote that power the bettur, and, over result the Board Scision with aged his Repartment with cúch skill and The Public Works Department are in fed it exceedingly difficult to cite an ex-
mare if possible therefore, it may be well to have on the the Board will arrive
Mr Shepherd said that as there was a die- Committee members who are able to reason and alss after consideration by all ability as induce the public to rely upon charge of main sewera and drains. The ample where Mr Crook has neglected pub-
lic interests for Government interests.
Sumsesnversation ensued as to who should unless the creditors would meet that. pank on the legal aspect of the question.
traint for rent, the homines could not go on That is the argument I addrees to question entails structural alteration and the tuembors together--taking into con- The Prasilent-But I do not see how duration such authority no may he reason. the Board and through the Bard to the pub. should be referred to the Director of
bear the RAYSARING to a recent, disenosion in Parlia
*xpense of connecting private | My Francis-I would propose that an drains to new
Mr Bottom anirl be did not quite menu that; meat, the Spectator says: Sir Wiltrid Lawat would offres referring the matter to a
ably produced
E is the meeting, I do not think that letter relying
iD any divcrsion title of honor the Queen in conferring a sub-com-uites of the Bed and allowing year end to the Bound and judgilia. Caring back to the question before Public Works
with up their report
obviate the necessity of bankruptos, Measry Sassoon or with the of private drains connection
in
Mr Skeels said that the publicity already does in conferring the Victoris Cross, the
that authority may be.
to in-sanitary works to charge the expenditure given to his affairs had done damage rough, wbeathar theeparate system is to be gomerient should be instructed Mr R. K. Leigh-I would like to ask thepleted; and, if is to be completed, whatstops
and special maris on necount of which that Yer; I think we should have the legal ad.
report. Ooo party ways this against the municipality and not Both vestigato
i not againeti o be lakran kwarda complating it.
and the bankruptcy might as well honour is conferred. This was a motion, vice of the members.
ausanon is rotirely the fatit of the prirate war, unless some nuisance can be prated
go on. Captain. Superintendent of Police which ere
Mr Holmes suggested a private deed said Sir Wilfrid Lawson, which had nothing
Mr. J. J. Francis--1 hink the previone report by Mr Chadwick be roless to. In questions are nessa varded, it, and the drains, and the other party says it aries in the shape of defectivs drains. I any trust for the benent of predizors, to be
mech are important-whether the first die Chadwick upled the combined letter, no mattal who to do with official duties it concerned only quotion
house
should in the Culony every hatonetcies, knighthooda, siers, it is advisable or not to proceed with the
and in the second Le agreed with question which had better be referred back equally from ta new Government drains, peeragos,
Me Shap garters, and thistles. These honours at separate egaten at all, and I beg to propose Co
drains are in order the connection
time to consider, pressbl were of no value. Take a baronaldy, this, as the simplest and easiest method of Bir Cooper in laying down separate sye to the Governmelt is whether they mean la is necessary to find out the actual cause nected with the new sewers, bat if the submitted to the Court for approval.
tom after an interval of only a few years, to lay one question or bath of them before of the bute ace
Mr Skeels said that as the rent was going - the Bount. But whether they lay it pro ta collectin
taking the whole question before the Board, The separate system of drainage was par- A baronet is a man who
oppose Me Francis' propues! This Baard vernment and if out of order at the son all the time, he thought it better to or not, it and who had ceased to be gentleman, this communication be referred to the l'or festly well-known at the time of his first fessedly before to Bourd
As far as I am panse of the householder. that they
will come before he Board, and if the has got sle own surveyor Nevertheless, all sneha wanted to be bobs, manent Committee with a request
The President-Will members agree then clove down at once. and all Redicals wanted to be Pears. should state their views and make any sug-
The Captsia Superintendent of Police Board vote se able against the separate concerned, and I have had a better op-
of judging than Mr Franola, with an expression of opinion in favour of the When a title was conferred on a soldier the Pgestions they have to make and that that
referred to both reports: I said he indicated system, I do obisk it is likely thepurtuning one system, and Mr Cooper's system separate waters will be continued. But regard Mr Crook us not only a corsien. compulsory connection of house drains with patent should record how many peuple bo repart sluuld come up here for discussion.
olved in the questing tious, hard-working and huneet officis! but the expana will certainly not.
Bystem weighed with him so much that he after-both questions are had killed; ou a politician, bow many
vory able official as well. I happen to whether the separats pstem is or is not to constituents be bad corrupted; on a brewer,
wards adopted Mr Cooper's system.
know where he was got from and who got The President-And pour Messrs Sassoon Dr Hurtigan-And, therefore, be re- bo completed. how many quarts of beer he had brewed in
The Colonial Sargon-One word with him, and I menthea that before Mir Crook nout co on bearing this stink without any ar. Sir William Harepart replied that
think Me Sassoon, as a rate- #year. be could not agree to the proposal. The
pudiated his first eshome. was upheld by Mr Price, and his second has a great deal of bhafe to take on itself. god reputation in this Cobay. Now, payor, deserves better treatment from this
Mr Leigh Mr Chadwick's first scheme regard to this anhject. I think the Band is very much older he will have a very reas old patents need to examerate the grounds
what do you propose de in this ense! | Board than that. Mr Francia-The Permanent Committee, we have Chadwick and Price not. We have had lots of dispites, but were There is a nuisance do iad of and you on which the honour was conferred, bat
Dr Harig-What are we going to do? on y were like opisapby, the ennmunrated us at this moment, at the request, of Lisanly supporting but ad reorting the cora- had ac suggestion ordine by alter suns rond down your Sanitary Surveyor, to Do aays it is the house drains that ars at ARE THEX OLEANSING FIRES OF merits Thich 40 ang over susposted the Excellency the Governor, consulering and bined system. Thes Mr Geoper comes unt are to be Trot, und witte te dones investigate and be repasta on it. You next fauit, another says it is the public drain,
NOTI If Sir will lay certain recommendations before decorated person
and draws up a new eshes, diametrically in the law witch and she could be possessing. Wilfrid Lawson, for instance, wore to be the Government
To the Editor of the 'CHINA' MAIL.* Mr Ligh proposed that the Board advise to anggest remedial described, he would probably be spoken of measures to prevent a recurrenes of "pposed to the first, and both of these The Saritary Board has bod at a standstill geta letter from the person complaining and Mr Leigh says it is both.
the membera wers opposed the system. been written by his unitary adviser, in the Government that it would be well to
Hongkong, June 21. SIR, I all be highly obliged by your 35 possessing Overy virtue auder the run, epidemics such as we are passing through experts, Chadwick and Price, tarn round and is simply gasworks in by opinion. If the nuisance, s letter which has evidently
line and adopt it. except that which the Victoria Crosa budow. The matters they are dealing with The Captain Superintendent of Putine why did they let it go on or years? It which he says he disagrees with Mr Crook has the bouse drains, in this instance,
proceeds connected with the public sewer, but he informing as the reason why the fires are from mething elao, bson praised for sounatimes recording, re-the leasing of the Chinose, the laying
would have been much batur if they had und nice that the quis
addud—I wish it to be distinctly under- set up by the authorities at various stresin. namely, that he had saved somebody from out of sortsin portions of the town, and
done something before.
Mr high-That there are other causes stood that in patting forward this motion T Are they bonfires to celebrate the great And to give
for A reason
The Acting Director of Palio Works- the drainage for that portion of the town.
Mr Leigh-They are two distinatly differ-
do not bind myself so agreeing with the victory the plague has gained over the As far back as 1888 Mr Ejus and Mr than the one Mr Crook states. decoration would probably destroy the and I held that this question regarding
The Captain Superintendent of Palico separate systain as a system to be applied science of medicine, or the great have it estimato in
The which it was hold; at least the separato system comes within the scope o
has displayed? If they were Acting Director of Pablic Works Cooper said 'you ran have my system of
e cleansing fres Lord Melbourne said that what makes the of the Committee'a enquiry. The separate Have y'on carefully read Chadwick's report public drains. You may have the srparate Mr Francia suggests that we should inour to Chincae.
Mr Francis movod-That the Govern- for stamping out the pestilence
suggested Garter the Srst Order in Earopo, is just system will certainly for some portion of He says, in effect, Perhaps it may be said system or the combined arstelp but unless I by engaging a private engineer to
is no merit ever attacked the subject matter they are now consider I was for the combined exatoes, but the feel you deal first of all with Lise use drains decide
anent.
Well, if you adout that suggestion, water to the drains. If that were done should use better materials than the
Wah Tere Yat Po, the Govern the fact that there is moes with a moral are ing. It might is advisable to Isy the angis I had a view the separato system at the any system you adopt, will be files, and I shou'd like to know how you are to get there would be no ruisance,
of the Permanout Committee be vestioas the dollest and poorest, so titles woait !
tae, and I laid down these drains for the they went so far as to say, 'There 13 50 through to go back on your Sanitary Leigh's motion, which was carried by 5) bodies of Chinatown. Instead of being If Surgeon-Major James sonded Mr rabbish and filth taken from the infected jaslead of gain in appreciation for having a fore the Board, after they had been cir: very purpose that they might be atilised for occasion to wait for the time when the
the curated.
publie severe will be laid dow They Garveyor ya 1 the members for moral attached. It would destroy
qutices
1 nevar get any Forrarder Tutes to, no one having seconded Mr beneficial, the smoke from these fires in, mystery of the title, all the speculation then we might have a general meeting of
· Leigh-Oh, yes; I have read it care- suid, Go on immediately and ser
it! it your w
You will have to employ Francis motion. The vote was-For if not harmful, objectionable to the tar We the Board to discuss the subject. about it, to assign a reason for it.
fully more than once, and I read it differ on property owners to pitt litt alla private I do not know which Erm, the motion-Colonisi Surgaon, Anting papers, who will gladly approve the ex- know the thing is neither rielt uor rate; The Optain Saperintendent vi P dice-
order, and connect them still to he old ently from your reading. the wonder is how in the name of fortune as a member of the Perennent Committe The Captain Superintendent of Police-drains, and when the tiny comes he that it will be a very good thing for that Director of Public Works, Captain Super-penditure of a couple of hundred dollars to
weald suggest that we write hack to the Terement will conncot them with the new firm-to decide whenever an arabitat is intendent of Police, Surgeon-Major James bay sanitary fuel if sanitation is aimed a
This Board has been favored obtained to uphold the views of a rocalcit and Mr Leigh (5); against-Mr Francis and It is also the duty of the officials of the Colonial Secretary and ask if he will inform sewers.'
Sanitary Board to see that all dust cheta the Board upon what question he wante our with a great amount of verbosity of the rant oder spion the of ear Dr Hartigan ().
olf Sanitary Surveyor. From my knowledge
The President--You do not vote, Dr Ho should be provided with strong for sir. opinion. What be really meant to ask for part ef de Francis, but I take
of Mr Crook, I have no hesitation in asying Kai? that the is
sight) covers, and the reciting bosta to say, with all due rest is what he-it Mr Laigh thinks he is station in the Hon. Ho Kai-I don't know what you should not moor at the centre of one town. absolutely nothing whatever in
Thanking you for insertion in your pager. says, His remarks are absolutely withat origin of the nuisance--that Mr Crack will have bean talking about.
and The President-Then perhaps it is wisest Yours faithfully, any practical sense. Therefore I think, pay a visit to the sewer with Mr Leigh that the Board has to take a tremendos they can both satisfy themselves as to what not to Toto.
Hon. o Kat-It is very perplexing amount of blame for got taking the matte the nuisance is and I am certain that if inte its own bands at that time, when Mr Crook finde he is wrong he will not have
The President-Very perplexing, Prise said that it had power arador the bye the slightess hesitation in saying so. laws to deal with this question. It be happens to be an official, but I believe-
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it got there. The resulation was negatived by 52 votes against 34. majority, 18. After all, titice are useded, if only to set off democratic ruggedness.
The President I would have thought the Permanent Gummistee has enough of work already. Besides, there are members of the Board not on the Purtashent. Om mitres whose advies it would be well to have.
amob
I don't consido the hembers of the Per manent Committed, with one excuption per haps, to be person qualitied to express an pinion that would be worth really any thing on a subject such as whether the se- erstom shall be continued or not. parate bystom THE PLAGUE IN HONGKONG.
(The President-Hear, hour.) This is a We believe that several complaints have schnical question which was raised Brat of been made of lata regarding the manner in all by the sending out of. I may ang
world-renowned Sanitary engineer, Mr which the scavenging of the city is being Osbort Chadwick. He made a report, gud carried on. Some of the general scaveng-in that report certain mudifications were at the hands of a man whom Mr
unde
:
I
report.
do not think the echemes are diametrically opposed to each other.
either!
Tooker.
has been indicated by M
Me Loign-That is what I think. The Captain Supariulendent of Police Therefore, I think we will save consider able time if we get uur instructions clearly. Mir Francis object to the word ins- traction. We take no instructions. Isom
anyone.
BU
you ar
*
work all over the Colony.
uf
Mr Francis-I
(Laughter) He
ing is said to be thrown upon the special Chadwick himself acknowledged in publio Well, I suppose we will be requested to do Board has not dealt with it at whese door is although some people don't seem to think The Acting Director of Public Work, biame to r 1 Franois, the great that he is a man who has a duo respect |
ataff of the Sanitary Board, while much of to be his sal if not superior in sanitary the work is being performed in a very soluce. That man was Mr Cooper. The Government invited criticism on the report which received the sanction the
perfunctory and unsatisfactory maquch of bar table man in Me Price, good cas, and probably it will enable us lo
Government to ascertain if the contractor,
of his
then Surveyor
community criticised man Mrf K. Leigh. A second report
the scheme Colonial Scoretary meant.
tio
it I
I
NUISANCE & HOWLOON,
After a little discussion it was decided to
adjaar sine die and summon a fresh meet-
ing to appoint a trustee after the public examination, the Official Receiver neantime realising the assots to save rent This was all the business.
CORRESPONDENCE,
ment a
contam.
PENNY WISE, POUND FOOLINE
VOLUNTEER DISINFECTORS. :- To the Editor of the CHINA Mail.
Janua &.
SIR,I have been vaiuly trying to ima
gine how a horde of natives" in Hongkong. Cosmopolitan's letter) and be * burning, (this is the only possible inference from bere and in Cartou, to do all they can to natives on this island can be * burn- abgthrow. British Government!
in two places at the same time, and
The Captain Superintendent of Police something
Mr M. d'Azavedo, 8 Kane Terrace, legal lumines
wrote to the Board complaining of a nuise of it, who has had a god or truth. Gentlemen, I object to the pro- secunded Mr May's proposal.
deal to do with these bro-laws, is himself sition on principle.
The Acting Dires or of Pabhe Workende used by the drain with an outlet Mr Francis-I think the motion is a very canaiderably to blande, I think,
The President Well, there is a definite storao ovary word Me May has said about above low-water mark opposite Robinson
Road at Kowloon, Crak, and I think I att is a position the now. before Board Before put
toludge,
The following minutes were appended: because I am always working with Mr J. J. Francis-Theoretically perhaps
ought to be no smell, but it will The Presidentit strikes ma that the regard to what has been said. First tha Me Leigh. was obtained from Me Chadwick and he English is exceedingly clear. Have yen of all I shut ld like to remark,
Leigh I will not liave a word against at next neap tudes, and ascertain if it is Francis, to the utterances of endorsed_. Mr Cooper's recommendation read the letter?
ст. I ask you, gentlemen, is The following are the statistics for the Permancul Committee, as
Mr Francis-I bave read it three or four this occasion, as, he did at the poll, he haar ook put into my mouth.
Th Acting Director of Public Workg-offensive in fnet.
By R. K. Leigh-The Banitary Surveyor constituted, the body of gentleman times. As has beeʊ pointed out, the wäcle trotted oat the Pablo Works Department Mr Chuk states that the nuisance ja eb10 should, I think, be asked to report.
of the authority in this Colony at the pre-as the stalking horse, na ho tratted uut Mr Intely used by the private drains, and it who have the requisite technical knowledge sent meant for dealing with house drains Callem the to criticina a system which has received ap is tested in this Board, and thie Board is, the flame ta ther day, and laid en Blais stali on the other side that it is caused whether drain or sewer is dangerous to ioonely-jointed expressione; or, at least add'
for a pororonding. proval, after years of workand investigation, a considerable extent, a popular insti-
If this is correct it would be well for the of a third . General, and ons member arrive at a defiaits idea of of what the mold Hike to make a few remarkhi I am in a better position to judge the send roma one to visit the drain British Government there is in
to whom this particular branch of the service is delegated, is receiving his full contract pay,
Ewenty-four hours to noon to-day -
Admissions
Deaths. Pisobarge Undertraut.
∙Dueat......}
1
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41
→ Hennedy"
Kompital.
Total
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the
at
present
Beard,
this
with
regard
that on
a wall
be referred to the D. P. W.
cognisance of the
a pablio main sewer,
what
Vantly
are statements which I fall to grasp himself,
they thereto.
but we shall not be much power under-
Perhaps the sccomplished writer hin Dr Hurtigen-I agree with the above; another time, will carefully sanotats bes by the panhole and the two gullies as well. hoaith it comes under oognisance of the
will enable Mr Francis-That is not correct, air Now, Iontend that the Board has nothing Board. File D.P. W. remark balow.
resder to clearly undanband. ut what some people seem to look upon tulion. It duplains, according to its conali. that is quite inorrek
The President-The true facts with re- tion of pblic sewers.
whatever to do with the structural altern- in Hongkong as official work, but honest tation under the Ordinose, four members
The Colon Surgeon-The drain pipo bis meaning should be carried further out.
Cosmopolitan terms my previous fetter work, work gone into for the very best who are convested with the Ogora-gard to the overarowding bye-laws are that
Me Le-There you are again!
The Acting Director of Public Works rubbish: now if I retort that his spistle is interests of this Colony, Laur, gentlemen, ment Service and six others who are this Bund recommended the Government en für Mo I am ounearned, I do not kan not supposed to be unsctad with the that they should be postponed indefinitely We have nothing to do with This is a public sonar. The mater should balderdash, I shall probably be correct,
them, andwe are not to
About complais anything about sanitary engineering, and I
Government service but represent the inde- and the responsibility for that postponement them do not think Mr Francis of Dr Ayres ar
The President--Shall we request our standing each other. Let me show hims pendent community; and the authority, in rests in the first instance with the Legisla The Astle Director of Public Works—
to My
the Ms Philip Hale, writing in the Avaient Surgeon-Major Jimes have any techniant connection with the private drains of the tore of this Colony which did not put them. If Mr Lighyoupleins of manhole the Sanitary Surveyor to me if this drain in that his logical methods are, to
erade. He calls the Chinaman, by Courier, pleas a strange account of drings knowledge of the work and Me Leigh,
Board. Sanitary constituted, it may reasonably be bas said, and as the Director of Public where. The shell is caused by want of anti- at Boston is connection with the performapos /,able.euginser as he in, has had the bonour Colony baríźgibson vested by law, in this ia firas. I think, as the Colouial Surgeon remedy is tput in another mantile she- any nuisance which pan come under the uncivilized; and the Obsues
implication, osil Europeans “barbarians,' Now such of com. of being confuted by the exports I have presumed that this legislature jatonded that Works has said,
Mr FrancisThie a Sanitary Board is
these posertions, from of Miracle Play. The orchestra as Mr Therefore, if roa wish to open up the system of drainage to be enforced upon greatly to blame, and I as one of the lation, and thwaly remedy is toput in more and of course it can make es mugh swell as
astrow point of posed of three street musicians. violinist,quoted.
razboles. Maign appears to me to want
view, contains a ** ( it likes.
a possible smattering of of whom had the question, the best way would be to
property in this Colony should members, wish to say that consider myself to oloso up thewaahele, which will cause a of The ownere autist, and harpist. ››
much to
blame for having taken
The President-If there is any insanitary Much Bat the et tu gunge argumans in proviously seen the play; but they, assording invite criticisms from experts, criticisms to be enforced by this popular institution and very mus
You will drive the to the managaress, Miss Alger, Enew ther be put on paper and referred first of all to it did not consider that the Huard should be more setive steps with regard to what has senter se
smell into the trues if you do that. Any nuisance anrely it is for this Bosed to deal never effective, and is generally a last ro
it adapted to oTARGETNÉ whose
the great Mr Chadwick, bees one of the chief contributing catene of engineer will suport me that it is not the same way as we differ on the subject of strong mutual distrust dislike and pre
wish overruled by were to give an overtare, introduce the the persons whose opinions sod
it. Wa dilfer there, Mr Francia, in sort: in no le this plague,
I think. I shall be supportač scenes with short selections, and play system has been adopted for their remarks much less by the amalt Mr Francois Couper. measure or two of wade where they knew and then referred to some person whose The President Do you mean physically by the mediant metabers of the Board when proper to late a sewer to drive You don't think the Board Boudjelice-Trely yours,
the swelt into priste bogger unadulterated dirt, baa situatione." The etrains dictum will be worthy of the grastert mentally F
I say that dirt, pare
Mr Leigh-I nor and so. Mr Tucker chosen to socompray the stored drama in respoot. I must say I do not think the
Mr Fesugis Both.
we should have removed oladed a waltz, played at the closs of the Permanent Committee of the Board in fit
Mr Leigh-Tap dirt dates banks for thirty drains than Mr Toor, and I am perfect
manhule. Probaby I I know more about incidents in the Garden of Gothamase to deal with this e
presiste your remark, fo Daisy Bell, which compacted the bargaine. The Colonial Sorgeoo-Only a few houses
Franil have, no doubt, he will. years before the Sanitary Hoard came into ware that theremedy for a kog of Judas with the priests; After the in the better part of t
of the town
catu ia togive it more air-to Ball, selested for attendance upon connected with the new drains, and, there. The pablic of the Colony will have a great The President--And since it has existed.melling dr
ventilate it more thoroghly, but it comes Mr Francis Having so power by law to this in this ibik of the twenty- that the drain. îs. solilagay spoken by Pilate; and Then You'll fere, no one can pass judgment on the deat to say on the subject of draine and will
waterbogged for the ber Me, to which the curtsio rose drains as they would be able to do if the frame a very heavy indictment against the galowed by Old Folks at Home and It is useless saying there are atieks. erement of the last few years, have gleen with the drains unless they are found four hours and the sowas cannot get ansĄ | a judge of flippancy Lee upon the trial scene, this being immediately drainage system was jus perfect condition. dralue, which, through the gross mistaan- selestions from Erminie. All this, says course, there are stinks, and there will rise to the present state of affairs and
was walking with me the her day in Mr Hale, is too shocking to provoke ersalways be stinks as long as there are horses been one of the first contributory causes of to be in an insguitary and defective state.
smile. Yet it was a clergyman's daughter, where the desins are out of order. In the the epidemio which has come upon the Cu- who got up tho kot 1 Was the performance I waY ad Blustration of the ⋅ Revolt of the Danghinge are going on now, you may put i loby. While the large majority of the rest and 1 yg much doght it, that this) locality and cn we rusked apanhase we an opinion ter What it is worth
your house in order, but xulcas people houses in this Colony were putting their Hoard le not riposible for the removal of a whiff which caused him to remark: The fut, scout "high" auch present fash is bring complaints of your next door wage into the storm-water draine, Mediet and for the dirty condition of the town, I man who wants to smell of that talking about what you are ignorant of..
zeighbour he may go on poisoning the Cooper insugurated and carried out system think the sooner the Board ockeen to exist' gigiton. With regard to mal Mr Tocker
there were
Remember
have been
to
been
disc.
deal with dirt; I think we should.
My J. J. Francia--That is a deliberate
..
The Fresident an sure how sp- the chief cause sa tam pingue, and this leges that I have desire to clons up thi mirepresentation. Tour dippensy
Br
existence.
to
private houses to connect get gid of it, and no power to compel the wate
Oxdere
The President that statement is cor-
It is always led with ad amelin, which come out at the manker,
Jaskana this
your applying such a term te the Chairman The Chairman-Order, air; I object jo Is in dierepeatful.
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