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A-Yes.

Q-Have you ever had anything to do with valuing the property for rating purposes?

A-Not for rating purposes.

Q-Have you ever had anything to do with valuing it for a prospective tenant?

A-Ten years ago, I had.

Q-Do you remember what a tenant would pay for that property then?

A-1 know, but I forget the exact year. The amount was about $110,000;

that was when Sir William Goodman was here.

Q-You know the property was bought in 1881 for $85,000?

A—I am quite aware of that.

Q-And it was not then quite the 32,000 square feet in area?

A-Yes; it was then 32,820 square feet. The Government Lease was pre- pared in 1877. I made the Lease and I made the Survey.

Q-At that time, the Purchaser paid $2.60 per foot?

A-$2.60 per foot, or $85,000 for the Lot,

Q-In 1884 it was sold by the Mortgagees, was it not?

A-A Chinaman paid $85,000 for that Lot in 1881, and he mortgaged that property to the Hongkong Fire Insurance Co. for $65,000.

Q-Who made the valuation at that time?

A-There was no valuation.

Q-The Hongkong Fire Insurance Co. advanced $65,000 on the Lot?

A-Yes; in 1881. In 1884 they had to foreclose, and Stephens bought it for $65,000, and be in turn mortgaged it to the Hongkong Fire Insurance Co. for $60,000.

Q-What amount of margin do you allow as a rule in lending on Mortgage?

A-When I have. this kind of valuation to make, I base my valuation as a rule on the income. I should consider that a property such as the Claimants' would be safe for Mortgage purposes for a Loan of $80,000.

Q-In 1884, it was a Lot with absolutely nothing on it at all?

A-I am aware of that.

Q-There were no profits then?

A-No.

Q-Don't you think the Hongkong Fire Insurance Co. were on the safe side in granting this Mortgage to Mr. Stephens ?

A-The Hongkong Fire Insurance Co. are always on the safe side in granting their Mortgages.

Q-What do you think was the value of the property in 1888, that is, after the Godowns had been built ?

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