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Witness. You would need to have measurements.
Q.--But that would involve a reference to the books too?
A. Yes, but you can classify measurements. Mr. Badeley. They might object to that. Witness.-Yes, they might object.
You can't classify photographs.
The Chairman. They objected to photography at first because it was a novelty. When they once got used to it, they were like reasonable beings. They won't object to being measured.
tion ?
Witness.We measured ricksha coolies once did we not and had a medical inspec-
Mr. Badeley.--We had a medical inspection, but it was no use. you issue are renewed at short intervals are they not?
A.--Every year.
Q. That is the longest interval?
A. Yes.
Q.-They have a fresh photograph for each new licence don't they?
The licences
A.—We take an old photograph sometimes. The hawkers I notice keep a pho- tograph on for more than one year.
Q-In how many years do you think a Chinaman would become unrecognisable by his photograph-grow out of his photograph so to speak? How often would they require to be renewed say in the case of chair coolies?
A.--I think, as far as photographs go, they would be serviceable for five years. The Chairman. Supposing one of the coolie's parents died and he grew his hair, that would alter his appearance entirely?
A. That would make a little difference certainly. It is not so very easy either to identify a Chinaman by his photograph.
Mr. Badeley. They have a system in Singapore of using a looking glass and by this means they get a full face photograph and profile as well.
The Chairman.--They hold up their hands, too, don't they?
Mr. Badeley. Yes, the criminals do.
Witness. As far as the appearance of the men is concerned, I don't think there would be much difference in five years, but I don't know about the photograph.
Mr. Badeley. I presume the photograph would be kept by the employer. Witness. Photographs won't fade if they are properly done, but I have had to refuse some because I saw they would not last.
Mr. Wilcox. There should be an understanding with the photographer.
Mr. Badeley. That is a matter of arrangement.
The Chairman. In regard to the prevailing rates for public chairs and rickshas, it seems pretty apparent by this time that one reason why private chair and ricksha coolies leave their employers is that the business of the public chair and ricksha coolie is more lucrative. Now, I don't know whether you have thought about it, but it has appeared to some of us that the fares of public chairs and rickshas are probably too high. Are you in favour of modifying these fares? For instance, it seerns to me absurd that 1, or anybody else, should have to pay five cents by ricksha and ten cents by chair