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A--It might for a short time until it was found out.
Q-Would you be satisfied if the birch were substituted for the rattan and your power of inflicting twelve strokes not interfered with?
A--I would..
Q--Do you consider that your power of ordering flogging could be safely reduce ! to six strokes if the rattan were retained?
A--No.
Q-And you put down twelve as a minimum?
A--I do.
Q--How many men have you in the Gaol-not prisoners, but staff?
A--Fifty discipline officers and one trade warder; but the trade warder performas the duties of discipline officer as well when he is required.
Q-How many of these are Europeaus and how many Indians? A-Twenty-five are European and twenty-five are Indians.
Dr. ATKINSON-The trade warder is a European, I suppose ?
WITNESS-Yes.
THE CHAIRMAN-How does the proportion of Europeans with Indians compare now with the proportion in 1892 and 1893 ?
WITNESS-I had no Indian discipline officers.
Q-The number of Indians has been increased?
A-There were no discipline Indian officers except one hospital warder.
Q-How many Europeans were there, do you think, in 1892 and 1893 till the change was made? Was the staff kept at the same number?
A The staff has slightly increased.
Q- A large proportion of the staff before was composed of Europeans?
A-Yes, and that has been reduced.
Q-Why has this change been wrought?
A-Because it was found that there were not enough Europeans to man the stations and also to provide a second officer to the party, and I considered the prisoners would be better supervised by increasing the number of the staff and placing a European officer in charge of the party and an Indian warder as an assistant to the party.
Q-Do you consider that Indians are as capable as Europeans in managing Chinese?
two.
A-No.
Q-What are your reasons?
A-The Indians have an inferior influence. I do not think you can compare the
Q-Do Chinese obey Indians as readily as they obey Europeans?
A-No.
Q-Would you put any Chinese on the Gaol staff?
A-No.