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Hon. Commander HASTINGS-You have been six or seven years in Her Majesty's
Army.
WITNESS-I have.
Q-The evidence in a military orderly room is always oral?
A--That is so.
Q-How many strokes do you give for the first flogging?
A-I have given an old offender twelve. In the case of a man who knows the Gaol Regulations well, I have given him twelve. I give a new offender six.
Q-Instead of giving a man three dozen do you consider that a dozen every three weeks would have a better effect?
ment.
A-I do.
Q--If it was divided off?
A-I do.
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Q-Prisoners are not allowed to shout or talk ?
A-No.
Q--Talking and shouting are in the same category?
A-Shouting gives greater annoyance in the Prison and there is a severer punish-
Q-What do you call a mutiny? the act of one man or the combination of a number of prisoners?
A--Combination of a number.
Q-Would you treat a secret combination as mutiny? Would it not have to amount to open resistance?
A-Yes, open resistance.
THE CHAIRMAN-Now we come to prisoners 528 and 704. Do you produce a true copy of the Medical Officer's reports ou passing these prisoners for labour; true copies of the prisoners' medical histories, true copies of the evidence taken before their second flogging, and true extracts from the Prison punishment book?
WITNESS-Yes. (Put in Appendix IV.)
Q-Will you look at these certificates and tell me whether they are the original ones given by Dr. MARQUES in regard to the floggings administered on those prisoners?
A-Yes. (Put in Appendix III.)
Q-As regards prisoner 528, why did he receive a flogging of six strokes on the 21st April?
A-For refusing to carry stone--refusing to labour, his labour being shot drill and carrying stone.
Q-Did you examine the prisoner touching that offence?
A--Yes. You asked why he received six strokes. It was repeated refusal, he having refused to carry on the 16th, the day after his admission to the Prison.
Q-Did you take any evidence in the matter?
A--I took the usual evidence orally.
Q-No evidence on oath ?
A-No.