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Q-Can you tell us, roughly, the hours of duty of the European Turnkeys at the Gaol ?

A-About ten hours a day, I think.

Q-What are the hours of duty of the Police ?

A-Six, I think.

Q-Does it not strike you that the hours of duty of the European staff are excessive ?

A-I think they are rather long. At the same time their duties are not the same and they work under cover.

Q-More monotonous ?

A-Yes, I must say I have always been of opinion that the hours of duty are rather long.

Q-Do you not think that might have caused a good deal of the alcoholism to

you refer?

which

A-I do not think so. think alcoholism was developed before.

Q-Do you not think the Europeans are more intelligent as Turnkeys?

A-Not the local class of men; I should say the present men are intelligent.

Q-Was the object of the change to effect economy ?

A-No, to improve the staff. You engage men from hoine on a larger salary than you engage men locally.

Q-Do you think the Gaol is sufficiently manned with turnkeys ?

A-I think so.

Q-You think the hours of duty are too long?

A-Yes. If you cut down the hours you will want to have one or two more men. THE CHAIRMAN-Have you any suggestions to make with regard to the question of flogging?

WITNESS--No, I think you have got all out of me that I have to say. I would like to add however that I would not undertake the charge of the Gaol without power of flogging administered by myself.

Hon. Commander HASTINGS--As a matter of fact the Visiting Justices are never backward about flogging ?

WITNESS-1 know one Visiting Justice who has declared he will not administer flogging under any consideration whatever, I will not mention his name because he told me privately. I have never found the Justices backward.

Dr. ATKINSON—And the main reason why you did not more often call in a Justice was the difficulty-

WITNESS—No, not in my time; I thought my own powers were sufficient to cope with the cases.

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