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A-His abilities are not as great.

The Indians will not understand me if I talk to them and I do not understand them. They come to me and say "Mr. NOLAN, there is a man sick in the hospital," and they make such trivial reports.

Q-I am speaking in reference to dealing with prisoners. If a prisoner refused to work a European might go to him and say--"If you do not work you will be punished,” but an Indian would probably not be able to tell him that, would he?

be?

A-No.

Q-Do you think an Indian is rougher with a prisoner than a European would

A-No, I do not think that.

Q-Do you think a Chinaman would obey a European sooner than obey an Indian ?

A-I think so,

Q-Are the men there younger than the men that used to be there, or older?

A-Much about the same.

Q-Have you any Chinese warders?

A-No.

Q-Would they be of any use in the Gaol, do

A-1 do not think so.

you think?

Q-You do not think they would be preferable to Indians?

A-I do not think they would be any good.

Dr. ATKINSON-What is the European staff in the Gaol now--what numbers;

A-I do not think there are more than twenty.

Q-How many were there six years ago

?

A-There were forty odd; I think forty-three; I will not be sure about it.

Dr. ATKINSON--Diminished about 50 per cent.

V.B.-The evidence of this witness was taken in the Government Civil Hospital when the witness was evidently in physical pain.

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